Sorry gent's, console wars over, nintendo wins.

[MadManWithaBox]

3DS conference. March 2011 release for UK. Gameboy and gameboy colour games for download. February 2011 release for japan. 3D pokemon game. More mario. More amazing wii stuff. Pack up your bags everyone else, you lose. Except for maybe apple.

[JackOfClubs]

As good as the Wii is, I love Gran Turismo. And I don't care for 3D.

[MadManWithaBox]

Not yet. Once you see the 3DS, you will.

[scuba steve]

meh, i like the 3DS but not enough to jizz in my pants, Matt :P PSP was a failure but i'm actually quite curious to see what Sony is going to bring to the table. I shall be getting the 3DS since it's always been Game boy for me, but what are they planning with that with that touchpad thing on the back???:confused: after the N64 era Nintendo software = fail

btw Ocarina of time 3DS :wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

[CaptainObvious]

Not yet. Once you see the 3DS, you will.

I won't. 3D doesn't work for me anyways (my eyes operate independently of one another), and even if it did I think it's a stupid gimmick.

[Zero Beat]

Except for maybe apple.

:D Apple rocks <3

[Sage]

They say that debating console wars is sort of like winning the Special Olympics...

[Perseus]

Last time I checked, Nintendo can't handle this.
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[Azunite]

Last time I checked, Nintendo can't handle this.
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Agreed .
Nintendo was a good company when there wasn't something called "Play Station"
I mean, how many people play Wii a lot ?
It all ends at XBOX vs PS3 fights, or "FPS for PC or Console " fights,
Nintendo only makes uber-stupid Japanese Anime games, like Pokemon or other stuff....
And 3D games ? Please....
When I watch a 3d movie, only few of the objects in a scene is 3D, the rest are normal.
And we play game a lot already! Our eyes badly damaged ! What would happen if we both played for long AND 3D?

[scuba steve]

N64 still beat Playstation in my view, but i get what your saying, Nintedo is still paying for the mistake of putting all their cards on the table hoping that Sony Corp would design new hardware for them but pulled out at the last minute. Since then they haven't been able to keep up, but with the capital earned from the Wii i'm hoping they'll be able to do something spectacular... But i doubt it, if they want to keep the casual market that go them all that money in the first place.

[Azunite]

Games have many problems when they are on Wii, like you can't play many missions or acts or even some games some weapons are out of the Wii version...
But I think the same thing will happen with PS Move .
Anyway, I think computer science needs to develop more in order for Wii and other motion or
3D stuff games to be as perfect as PS3 or XBOX

[scuba steve]

Games have many problems when they are on Wii, like you can't play many missions or acts or even some games some weapons are out of the Wii version...
But I think the same thing will happen with PS Move .
Anyway, I think computer science needs to develop more in order for Wii and other motion or
3D stuff games to be as perfect as PS3 or XBOX

there is very little differance technologically speaking when you look at all three of the systems motion technology, without being bombarded by fan boys i would glady say that the Wii uses hardware outdated by about 5years now with an infrared system with a sensor bar to detect the change in movement, with the ps3 taking this a step up by adding depth to the motion with the ps camera thing detecting the stupid coloured ball on the controller and the Kinect just being an updated eyetoy. If your not a mind clouded fanboy backing up the console you currently own i would bet that you can't really argue with this as Xbox and ps3 owners, could you really give a toss for this motion control gimmick that's being brought in to distract time from the hardcore games designed to create hit a ball with a stick type shite? If you wanted that in the first place you would have got a Wii anyway.

Nintendo only went down this path in the first reason because it was broke after the failure of the Gamecube and the economical failure of the N64 i will be greatly hated over this i know, i loved both consoles but they couldn't compare with their competitors. The gamecube using the mini disc origionally to prevent piracy could not compare to the dvd used by PS2 and Xbox. As for the N64 which i know many members here will have loved and more than likely to this day was technically an economical failure, entering the market between the dreamcast and the playstation late was not able to keep up with the amount of games that where coming out regularly for these two consoles, with the cartridge used for the N64 being extremely tricky to develop for but was seen as the most powerful, bringing out some of the best Nintendo 1st party games ever. But... It did not make the money to cover the system.

[Amnesiac]

3DS conference. March 2011 release for UK. Gameboy and gameboy colour games for download. February 2011 release for japan. 3D pokemon game. More mario. More amazing wii stuff. Pack up your bags everyone else, you lose. Except for maybe apple.

I don't think portable consoles and the Wii can be compared to the more "professionalist" Xbox 360 and PS3. You're trying to pit different categories of gaming against each other, they're not compatible.

:D Apple rocks <3

I strongly disagree.

[Perseus]

3DS conference. March 2011 release for UK. Gameboy and gameboy colour games for download.

Holy Jesus! It's not like any other system can do that! And plus, it's as much (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/09/30/you-are-to-blame-for-the-3ds-price-point.aspx) as a freaking console.

[Azunite]

This is like comparing LeBron James and Messi, these two are diffrent things

[Patchy]

When nintendo actually start making high end graphic games that PS3's and 360's can do then I'll be impressed - and if they get it to look awesome in 3D I'll be even more impressed.

[Azunite]

Everything ends at graphs, and Nintedo is archaic

[Magus]

And the winner is...

http://www.insertcredit.com/archives/news/092008/md3plzdontsteal.jpg
Genesis 3.(Man, I just googled the shizz)
(or maybe this! This shit looks like a metal gear :P)
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3687/dreamcast2s3ac.jpg

Fuck it! These guys sucks! I, maybe, will look for a degree in fine arts and do me some nice looking console concepts.

[Azunite]

I mean nintendo has.
NO aestetistics
NO quality
NO anything-except-anime-games

[MadManWithaBox]

Lol stupid statement

[scuba steve]

I mean nintendo has.
NO aestetistics
NO quality
NO anything-except-anime-games

you say this like it's fact. :P

[MadManWithaBox]

I know right what a silly Billy he is.

[Azunite]

Like you? no...
I am just a man who know that PS and XBOX kicks the ass of Nintendo for the time being. And it will still do it until Microsoft or Sony bankrupts, since that such thing won't happen I guess there is no point to argue bout this

[scuba steve]

if any Nintendo would be the most likely to go bankrupt, but since in their current financial success experienced that just wont happen. Nintendo at the minute is a differant thing compared to the two hardcore gaming consoles the 360 and the PS3, at the end of the last gaming generation, Nintendo was broke the Gamecube was a failure and they knew. It was then that they realised that they couldn't compete with the technology that the ps2 and xbox had used so they took gaming to a completly new path, a whole new market that could achieve millions: the casual gaming market, old and young millions of which can individually say they own a Nintendo Wii, compared to Sony and Microsoft sticking to their hardcore gaming values. If you cannot appreciate what Nintendo has done here then you really can't really claim to be knowledgeable in gaming as they have breached and captured this market brilliantly selling more units than Sony and Microsoft has combined, reigning it the true winner of this generations console war.

[Azunite]

But still, they either work on something very dumb or they work on something which is uber-hard !
I mean, Gameboys are dead for 5 years now, a lot of people don't play PSP anymore, an they still make those Game Boys and DS s etc.

And yes, Nintendo is the father of PS and XBOX, we know that.
But he reigning the true winner of this generatin?
Please ! We haven't seen nothing yet ! Maybe this 3D thing will be full of bugs, glithes and other bad stuff? How can someone say it is the winner without we saw anything ?
And of course, we won't be able to play many good games because it will be 3D or motin sensored. How the hell are you planning to play he phenomenon Assassins Creed for example ?

[scuba steve]

dude economically Nintendo has already won this generation, and the DS has sold around 107 million units! How can you not call that a win win situation almost overtaking sales of the Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3 combined?!?!?! It's just illogical to be a gamer and still not see this as a console war win.
And it's unlikely that 3D will be filled with bugs as it has been in use for movies for a good few years now and in gaming for around 6months, all the company is doing is putting this onto a smaller screen, and it's not even using the same type of 3d software to those. I don't know the details but this is supposed to be easier to design for and obviously doesn't need glasses as it's more of an optical illusion.
Assassins creed is not a "phenomenom" it's just another game on the market that probably would work well on motion controlling if it where to be challenged with it, Nintendo has made hardcore games work like Zelda on the Wii and Sony plans on making several of their exclusive titles readily available for complete Move use: Killzone 3 and SOCOM being only two examples.

[Azunite]

dude economically Nintendo has already won this generation, and the DS has sold around 107 million units! How can you not call that a win win situation almost overtaking sells of the Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3 combined?!?!?! It's just illogical to be a gamer and still not see this as a console war win.
And it's unlikely that 3D will be filled with bugs as it has been in use for movies for a good few years now and in gaming for around 6months, all the company is doing is putting this onto a smaller screen, and it's not even using the same type of 3d software to those. I don't know the details but this is supposed to be easier to design for and obviously doesn't need glasses as it's more of an optical illusion.
Assassins creed is not a "phenomenom" it's just another game on the market that probably would work well on motion controlling if it where to be challenged with it, Nintendo has made hardcore games work like Zelda on the Wii and Sony plans on making several of their exclusive titles readily available for complete Move use: Killzone 3 and SOCOM being only two examples.

So I didn't know the fact at red part, sorry.

I haven't played KZone and SOCOM, but know they are kick-ass games.
But still I doubt nintendo is the winner. Everybody talks about PS or XBOX, but not about nintendo

[Aves]

Nintendo's ONLY good consoles, in my opinion, were NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube. Why? Cause there was no other consoles out there to fight them really. People stuck to Nintendo. Because of that, developers looked to Nintendo to release their games too. But since the PS2 and Xbox were released, they started slowly but surely switching over to them.

[Azunite]

Well Nintendo's advance is slow and steady. Hope they come up with something good when they finish, because it takes ages for them to find something new

[Suicune]

Well seeing as the 3DS itself has been in development for 3 years, has major 3rd party support, doesn't neglect past franchises - As many NES, SNES, and N64 games are getting sequels and/or ports- , and that 3D itself is optional, I'd say it goes beyond a death sentence for the PSP and could POSSIBLY (Stressed of course) rival some systems.

[the8bitter]

Even if Nintendo wins this latest console war, I'll always turn my hand in disgust. And, I've actually always held them in high regard in the past. While other companies (Sony,Microsoft) are only able to cater to hardcore gamers, I always felt Nintendo could cater to both hardcore and casual players. But, every time I look at the shelves, I want to puke at all of the shovelware and other crap that is unworthy of disc space. Nintendo doesn't even try anymore...I could care less about their silly "3D" gimmick and the industry's motion-control gamble. Just give me a tough-as-shit game and a controller, please. I probably don't have the best perspective on this, and that's mainly because I don't even bother with Wii, PS3, DS or the 360. That's just what I think of the current situation; they've won by no doubt, but it was a cheap victory. They REALLY haven't come up with something original or unique...3D technology has been around for quite a while, and re-releasing classics for a quick buck is a dirty way to make money. If I want the classics, I'll shell out the money for the REAL copy. I don't want to play for just an emulation.

[the8bitter]

Nintendo's ONLY good consoles, in my opinion, were NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube. Why? Cause there was no other consoles out there to fight them really. People stuck to Nintendo. Because of that, developers looked to Nintendo to release their games too. But since the PS2 and Xbox were released, they started slowly but surely switching over to them.

I agree. Before the Gamecube era, third party developers for Nintendo actually put effort into their products. Now we have atrocities such as "NinjaBread Man" and various shovelware littering the shelves. Ew.

[scuba steve]

Nintendo's ONLY good consoles, in my opinion, were NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube. Why? Cause there was no other consoles out there to fight them really. People stuck to Nintendo. Because of that, developers looked to Nintendo to release their games too. But since the PS2 and Xbox were released, they started slowly but surely switching over to them.

Actually the N64 and the Gamecube where greatly challenged by rival company Sony being beat both by the Playstation and Playstation 2 and eventually Xbox. Playstation was out a good few years before the N64 as it's technology was supposed to used as the new Nintendo system, but Nintendo pulled out of the contracted deal at the last minute, meaning they had to draft a new console to stay in the game and was economically beat by the Playstation. Developers also hated using the N64 hardware as it was difficult to design for the cartridge which is why many of their "champion titles where first party (Rare was also a division under Nintendo explaining Goldeneye and Perfect Dark."
The Gamecube was a mistake from Nintendo trying to push the mini disc to decrease piracy (which was eventually broke) and could not hold the same amount of detail as Ps2 and Xbox's DVD. Which also featured economical failure, being the first of the three consoles to cease production. The last console war that Nintendo has whole heartedly won was the SNES era and present day Wii being the first since.

[scuba steve]

Well seeing as the 3DS itself has been in development for 3 years, has major 3rd party support, doesn't neglect past franchises - As many NES, SNES, and N64 games are getting sequels and/or ports- , and that 3D itself is optional, I'd say it goes beyond a death sentence for the PSP and could POSSIBLY (Stressed of course) rival some systems. The 3DS in the handheld market will be entering a monopoly market, they as such have no competition owning a surpassed requirment of 25% market share.

[Church]

Wii is for casuals, hardcore players will always stick to Xbox, PS3, or PC. True facts

[Azunite]

And hardcore players play more, casual players just do it in their free time.

[Zero Beat]

I strongly disagree.

I dont recall asking you how you felt about a company. :rolleyes:

I don't think Wii's will stay high for much, kids, elderly xD maybe for them. But the hard core gammer isn't going to buy a Wii -.-

[Suicune]

This whole label of "Hardcore" and "Casual" is the most pointless thing to argue about.
I do believe the main purpose of games themselves are to entertain. If it's fun, fine.
This whole argument started and ended with Sega back in the 90s. Dead arguments need to stay dead.

[MadManWithaBox]

I'm far from being casual, and I play much more nintendo than anything else.