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myskias
September 22nd, 2010, 12:58 AM
I cannot believe how bad this is. and how horrible we (as humans) are treating our planet. its heartbreaking

http://www.juiceonline.com/juice-heart/the-great-pacific-garbage-patch/

Whisper
September 22nd, 2010, 01:48 AM
there's also one in the atlantic and the indian ocean
your surprised?

Sage
September 22nd, 2010, 08:42 AM
Link is broken.
Edit: Nevermind, works now.

DarkHorses
September 22nd, 2010, 09:36 AM
It's not very surprising, a lot of humans think they can do whatever they want with the world and that there will be no consequences. We think we're extremely smart but in many ways we're really pretty darn stupid.

Magus
September 22nd, 2010, 10:43 AM
I cannot believe how bad this is. and how horrible we (as humans) are treating our planet. its heartbreaking.

I think I am the only one who had the thought of wearing a BC suit, and go in there, and hand pick plastics, glass, paper from those huge mountains of trash and put them in separate bags and send them to any recycling facilities that are willing to go Green.

Be Green :D - Be cool :cool:

willrod
September 22nd, 2010, 01:45 PM
It seems that it's too late to clean up- according to the article, any attempts to clean it up would bankrupt any nation. However, what we *can* do is prevent it from growing any larger. I know it sounds kinda childish to keep repeating, but recycling *does* make a huge difference!

Amnesiac
September 22nd, 2010, 03:52 PM
This shouldn't be a surprise. Where do you think all the trash people throw into sewers or onto the beach goes?

Cleaning up is definitely a difficult task. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but extremely hard to do.

myskias
September 22nd, 2010, 06:40 PM
i have an idea.. why dont we turn it into an island? import dirt out there and make it a floating moving inhabitable island :D that would be pretty damn cool if you ask me! and it would fix the trash problem.. well not really more like cover it up but still! haha

dead
September 22nd, 2010, 08:22 PM
This is old news. People should keep tabs on these sort of things. Even though I can't really do anything I still keep tabs on them.

Magus
September 23rd, 2010, 10:37 AM
i have an idea.. why dont we turn it into an island? import dirt out there and make it a floating moving inhabitable island :D that would be pretty damn cool if you ask me! and it would fix the trash problem.. well not really more like cover it up but still! haha
This Floating Island will start devouring the marine life around it. Eventually it will end up reaching the shores before we even notice the trash.
Cleaning up is definitely a difficult task. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but extremely hard to do.
It is better to use the "Get our ass up and let us do it" tactic rather than the "We will sit on our chair and wait for the disaster strikes us" tactic. I will voluntarily participate into any environmental cleaning up activities!

And the Plastics break then into a molecular level?!? You do know that Plastics are Polymers, no? They don't break down that easily and into "molecular level". But it depends on the monomers that are in the molecular chain. It can happen.

It is a 'misinterpretation' of the real intended message. Whatever. We still don't like trashes in the seas, now, don't we?

Amnesiac
September 23rd, 2010, 03:29 PM
It is better to use the "Get our ass up and let us do it" tactic rather than the "We will sit on our chair and wait for the disaster strikes us" tactic. I will voluntarily participate into any environmental cleaning up activities!

Indeed, political laziness is the reason nations like China are ahead of us in green technology and achievements. The United States needs to participate in environmentally friendly activities, such as cleaning up the garbage patch, and invest in green technology if it wants to be taken seriously as a superpower 100 years from now.

Magus
September 23rd, 2010, 11:48 PM
Indeed, political laziness is the reason nations like China are ahead of us in green technology and achievements. The United States needs to participate in environmentally friendly activities, such as cleaning up the garbage patch, and invest in green technology if it wants to be taken seriously as a superpower 100 years from now.

Reason for China to take actions because China is one of the topmost producer of Wastes(remember the Smogs? Lots of Electronic Wastes.). To counterattack an upcoming environmental disaster, they started to do something about it.

There is a reason why you can easily breathe in South-East Asian countries.
They take care of their cities, and not ignoring her needs.

I am very disheartened about the Arabian Gulf. If you go out, you can easily smell emissions from Cars. The Garbage aren't controlled. People simply put empty batteries, old toys, plastic materials, food, glass, and paper in the same freaking garbage bag.

If my memory serves me right, the sea was Blue back then. Now, it is a freaking green sludge with plastic bags on the beach and nets and stuff.

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/upload/img_pict/local8954bd.jpg

Amnesiac
September 23rd, 2010, 11:57 PM
Reason for China to take actions because China is one of the topmost producer of Wastes(remember the Smogs? Lots of Electronic Wastes.). To counterattack an upcoming environmental disaster, they started to do something about it.

There is a reason why you can easily breathe in South-East Asian countries.
They take care of their cities, and not ignoring her needs.

I am very disheartened about the Arabian Gulf. If you go out, you can easily smell emissions from Cars. The Garbage aren't controlled. People simply put empty batteries, old toys, plastic materials, food, glass, and paper in the same freaking garbage bag.

If my memory serves me right, the sea was Blue back then. Now, it is a freaking green sludge with plastic bags on the beach and nets and stuff.

Wow, that's pretty disgusting. Oil-producing nations like the ones in the Middle East couldn't care less about the environment, especially considering the desert climate which makes it less important to them. Asian nations, China specifically, have stepped up their green goals because they know the future international economy will be heavily influenced by climate change. It's the U.S.'s blind conservative base that is taking down America's position as a superpower. They think acting on global warming is a waste of money, but they fail to realize in the long run it only has benefits.

Magus
September 24th, 2010, 12:26 AM
They think acting on global warming is a waste of money, but they fail to realize in the long run it only has benefits.

:no: shame on amirkha. I think environmental development should be N#1 concern, especially with Nations like U.S.(can't it be like its neighbor(Canada)?) And other developed States.

Don't you get raged looking at pictures like this? :
http://www.ecofriend.org/images/solid-waste-disposal_9.jpg

Whisper
September 24th, 2010, 04:35 AM
It seems that it's too late to clean up- according to the article, any attempts to clean it up would bankrupt any nation. However, what we *can* do is prevent it from growing any larger. I know it sounds kinda childish to keep repeating, but recycling *does* make a huge difference!

Cleaning it isn't impossible you just have to attack it in a different fashion, using nets for example is useless because of both size and due to the amount of fine plastic debris that would slip right through. However if you were to work on developing a compound you could disperse into the patch that would safely breakdown plastics, all you would need do is disperse it in one area, the currents and time would do the rest.

Amnesiac
September 24th, 2010, 10:25 PM
:no: shame on amirkha. I think environmental development should be N#1 concern, especially with Nations like U.S.(can't it be like its neighbor(Canada)?) And other developed States.

Don't you get raged looking at pictures like this? :
http://www.ecofriend.org/images/solid-waste-disposal_9.jpg

Yes, it does irritate me when I see scenes like that. Americans and their independent attitude are what's causing the downfall of the United States as a superpower. Canada is probably one of the greenest nations I can think of, save for their oil shale extraction.

Magus
September 25th, 2010, 02:16 AM
Canada is probably one of the greenest nations I can think of, save for their oil shale extraction.

Oh. :whoops: - but they must keep the oil, and not mindlessly deplete it like what we are doing here[in the gulf] - The Arabs, they should increase the oil value on their people. I mean, the extracts like gasoline are much cheaper than a 200ml water bottle!

Sith Lord 13
September 25th, 2010, 05:38 AM
Yes, it does irritate me when I see scenes like that. Americans and their independent attitude are what's causing the downfall of the United States as a superpower.

Somebody care to tell me how not being green renders the US not a superpower?

Amnesiac
September 25th, 2010, 02:43 PM
Somebody care to tell me how not being green renders the US not a superpower?

Green technology is a future economy. China and other rising nations are investing early in this new industry based on climate change, while the U.S. doesn't because of Republican bickering. Such ignorance will weaken the U.S.'s relevance in the international economy in a few decades.

Oh. :whoops: - but they must keep the oil, and not mindlessly deplete it like what we are doing here[in the gulf] - The Arabs, they should increase the oil value on their people. I mean, the extracts like gasoline are much cheaper than a 200ml water bottle!

It seems like the big oil companies are ruining parts of Canada just for the relatively small amounts of oil they get from oil shale. Extracting it is a lengthy and extremely harmful process; it's disappointing that the Canadian government seems to be less interested in the issue.

I don't think anything will change the minds of the Arab nations on oil, it's what drives their economy and makes them important to other nations. Without it, the Middle East would be much weaker on the international stage.