Why do people think Communism is evil?

[*Dissident*]

It seems like when the media mentions communism, the always use it in a negative way... Truth be told, communism is actually very logical and not some evil government of suppression and death. Thats just what the Soviets made it out to be.

[Ravenous]

Because people are ignorant and believe everything they see in the media. Agreed, soviet russia gave communism a bad impression, one that will be hard to shake off.

[Phantom]

Yep, U.S dosnt like soviets every since they tried to kill us. Agreed soviet communism was a bad impresion. Communism never works anyway and usualy goes along with a dictatorship.

[redcar]

simply because we live in capitalist countries, which is the opposite of communism. so thats why.

[Whisper]

Because the soviets gave it a very bad name that and during the cold war america used the media to paint anything communist as evil because they needed all the PR support they could get


.....communism sucks!

[Ravenous]

Communism never works anyway and usualy goes along with a dictatorship.
That is when communism corrupts, true communism is the complete opposite of a dictatorship..

[mRojas2000]

Actually, comminusm isn't bad at all... it's pretty fair actually, but the way governments has used it (all that have done it) its in such a bad way, that people beleive that communism is bad, and associate dictation with communism. It's not bad, its the way governments use it that makes it "bad"... maybe it's too complex for them to fully understand it *sight*

[TheWizard]

Cuba likes it.

[mRojas2000]

Cuba likes it.

Cuba's something else... Fidel Castro technacly washed cubans brain (at least most)... almost everyone there loves him to death for some reason... they don't really know what life is...

EVEN THO!! I have met cubans who hate him (someone had to be :))

[Gamebreaker]

Yeah man youre right. It was a bunch of evil ppl who supported communism, so thats y its got a bad rep

[*Dissident*]

communism, to me, has the unfortunate thought accompanied with it that the people have no choice in what they do. Actually, you have all th choice in the world. because there would (in a eutopis) be no currency, or wealth, there is nothing stopping you from quitting your job and getting another one, or at least nothing financially.

[cmpcmp]

there already is a communism thread for some of this stuff about would it work and stuff.
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There is a reason that Communism has goten a "bad wrap", and il list them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state#Historical_examples
As of 2006, there are five Communist states in the world: China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea and Vietnam

China
Past human rights issues include the Great Leap Forward, a policy that caused 20-30 million Chinese to die of starvation, and the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, when 400-2000 protestors were killed and 7000 to 10000 were injured.

GDP - per capita $6,800 (2005 est.)

However, censorship is widespread in China. There is heavy government involvement in the media, with many of the largest media organizations being run by the government.

Cuba
-Cuban missile crisis
GDP - per capita: $3,500 (2005 est.)

Laos
The situation of human rights in Laos has often be recognized as a cause for concern. U.S. State Department reports on human rights around the world declare that most Lao trials in 2003 were little more than pro forma examinations of the accused, with a verdict having already been reached. The State Department indicated that in some instances, police administratively overruled court decisions, at times detaining a defendant exonerated by the court, in violation of the law. Moreover, while Lao law prohibits torture, members of the security forces reportedly subjected prisoners to torture and other abuses. A significant issue in human rights in Laos is the presence of anti-government rebels, mainly of the Hmong ethnic minority, who have reportedly been harshly treated by the Lao government.

GDP - per capita $1,900 (2005 est.)

North Korea
the government of North Korea controls virtually all activities within the nation. Citizens are not allowed to freely speak their minds and the government detains those who criticize the regime. The only legal radio, television, and news organizations are operated by the government. The media universally praise the administration of Kim Jong-Il, who remains the unelected leader of the country. The use of political prison camps and torture to control the population is common and documented by many sources.
North Korea's state-controlled economy has stagnated since the 1970s. By the 1990s, agricultural output had tumbled so far that it induced widespread famine, which killed between 600,000 and 3.5 million people.
-there nuke program, when they starve their own people

GDP - per capita $1,700 (2005 est.)

Vietnam
In its 2004 report on Human Rights Practices, the U.S. Department of State characterized Vietnam’s human rights record as “poor” and cited the continuation of “serious abuses.” According to the report, the government has imposed restrictions on freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of association. Citizens are denied the right to change their government. The government continues to hold political prisoners who have expressed views at odds with government policy.
Vietnam has no independent judiciary, and there is no right to a fair and speedy trial. Human rights organizations are not permitted to operate. Discrimination against women and ethnic minorities, child labor, and prostitution are serious problems.

GDP - per capita $2,800 (2005 est.)
(some have said that the Vietnamese market isn't really communism anymore)
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there don't seem to be many communist (now and past) that are at the or near the top of any of thoes good lists, like GPD per capita, Education, Health care,.... in short all the things that cumminist triumph as their goal.

You will say that there hasn't ever been a "real" or the "right kind" of communism implimented, but do you know how many past communist states there were?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state#Historical_examples
got there and check it out.

[Hyper]

Communism is a foolish dream. That will never worked if governed by mankind. For men by heart are evil and greedy. Such dream with no economics cant exist if there is a united cash deposit. For someone has to govern these stocks of resources..

Soviets did make it 'evil' but the very heart of communism is a lie.

[cmpcmp]

Communism is a foolish dream. That will never worked if governed by mankind. For men by heart are evil and greedy. Such dream with no economics cant exist if there is a united cash deposit. For someone has to govern these stocks of resources..

Soviets did make it 'evil' but the very heart of communism is a lie.
I agree.

-but when u say that the heart of communism is a lie i think that what you really mean, is that human perfection (like complete sharing of resources) is a lie. Humans are at the heart of communism so ur right, but more specific?

do u agree?

[mRojas2000]

Communism is a foolish dream. That will never worked if governed by mankind. For men by heart are evil and greedy. Such dream with no economics cant exist if there is a united cash deposit. For someone has to govern these stocks of resources..


I so agree with this... Communism, by mankind won't ever work... humans want to be powerful, have money, and be popular... thats why communism never works...

[Hyper]

Yes I agree cmpcmp
Basicly you know what I mean, just put it in short..

[cmpcmp]

Yes true, but it is importiant that ppl understand what the root cause is (humans) so that they can't say that we just haven't found the right form of absolute communism.

[Unown]

It takes away peps mind set

[Tristin.]

on paper its brilliant yes, in practice it fails, as human greed always takes over. its not evil, just heavily flawed by man

[SosbanFach]

Read 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell; it's a very good explanation of the downside of communism

[Azunite]

Because America was scared to death of Russia in the Cold War, and Russia was communist. They think there is a holy book about Communism and each and every Russian worship it every day, Russia is led by Communist cults and the brother of Communist Demi-God is Satan itself. That's why it's evil.

And the poster above me who I cannot spell his name, good point. I read that book two times and it was very interesting, it was referring to communism itself, with animals ( especially pigs )

[SosbanFach]

Yay, I made a good point :D

[Tristin.]

i love animal farm, squeler -.-

[RoseyCadaver]

Inb4 Lock.


It is a very good system,like Tristen said,on paper.Sadly,people abuse the system for it to work for them.Then again,that's all economic systems,isn't it?None the less the way the old saying goes,it's not the tool that is evil,it's how the worker uses it.

[Drake14]

Because it is evil. it has killed millions and millions more than even the Nazis. It is a system to squash out independent thinking and uniqueness utterly.

and no it isnt good in theory but somehow doesnt work. its a bad idea with bad outcomes.

[Lawliet]

Too bad its impossible for communism to be practiced in it's intended form. A government which dictates that everyone is equal and that there is not one group of people higher than another. In short a class less society.

[Tristin.]

animal farm said it best: "everyone is ewual, but some are more equal than others"

[BFG9001]

5 year old thread?

[RoseyCadaver]

Yep.Someone bumped it.

[Commander Thor]

Yeah, it's from 2006.
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