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ShyGuyInChicago
September 3rd, 2010, 11:09 AM
Do you support it? Does everyone have the right to healthcare? Is it efficient?

Sith Lord 13
September 3rd, 2010, 11:24 AM
No, because it's not the government's responsibility to give everyone healthcare. I believe in universal access to emergency medicine, and I believe in limited state-sponsored healthcare (Such as Medicare and Medicaid). However, I feel that the state running a universal healthcare program is a mistake, if for no other reason than they are incapable of properly executing it. It is better left in the hands of the private sector.

ShyGuyInChicago
September 3rd, 2010, 11:27 AM
No, because it's not the government's responsibility to give everyone healthcare. I believe in universal access to emergency medicine, and I believe in limited state-sponsored healthcare (Such as Medicare and Medicaid). However, I feel that the state running a universal healthcare program is a mistake, if for no other reason than they are incapable of properly executing it. It is better left in the hands of the private sector.

You know I have thought that a good compromise would be guaranteeing all children universal healthcare. But why do you feel that it is not efficient? are you basing your opinions on countries that have universal health care.

Sith Lord 13
September 3rd, 2010, 11:29 AM
You know I have thought that a good compromise would be guaranteeing all children universal healthcare. But why do you feel that it is not efficient? are you basing your opinions on countries that have universal health care.

Whenever the government does anything, compared to when the private sector did it, the government is inefficient, wasteful, and inferior.

nick
September 3rd, 2010, 12:12 PM
Everyone has a right to healthcare, you should not be denied access to the best and the latest medicine just because you are poor or less well off. Its the government's duty to see that all citizens are provided for.

The Dark Lord
September 3rd, 2010, 12:31 PM
Britain offers free health care for all, and the system is abused. I am not against universal health care but the British's health service should only be available for british people.

The Batman
September 3rd, 2010, 12:51 PM
No one should have to go to the doctor and come out in debt. I think that if you make below a certain amount the government should provide healthcare to you. It might not be the best but it's better than nothing.

Perseus
September 3rd, 2010, 03:08 PM
I agree with it. Why shouldn't everyone have the ability to go a doctor without having to be in so much debt? On Obama's system my nineteen year old friend gets to stay on his parent's healthcare plan until he's twenty-six. He was rejoicing when he found this out.

Amnesiac
September 3rd, 2010, 03:13 PM
Everyone should have the right to access quality healthcare without massive reprisals. Injury and illness is a natural part of human life, it's not something that should cost people their entire life savings.

Sage
September 3rd, 2010, 04:00 PM
I support universal healthcare I believe in this absolutely ridiculous, outlandish, draconian idea that if you want the government to provide nice services, you have to pay taxes.
/sarcasm

huginnmuninn
September 3rd, 2010, 04:50 PM
no! there isnt enough money for it and its not the governments job to do it. if you go to a hospital they cant deny you health care and there are free clinics that you can go to. the govenment would screw it up. and some people who generally need it i can understnd but there are some people who would rather waste their money on atvs and and other thiings that they dont need instead of getting health insurance and then they complain that it costs to much.

ShyGuyInChicago
September 3rd, 2010, 05:07 PM
No, because it's not the government's responsibility to give everyone healthcare. I believe in universal access to emergency medicine, and I believe in limited state-sponsored healthcare (Such as Medicare and Medicaid). However, I feel that the state running a universal healthcare program is a mistake, if for no other reason than they are incapable of properly executing it. It is better left in the hands of the private sector.

How should universal health care systems be run then?

The Batman
September 3rd, 2010, 05:33 PM
no! there isnt enough money for it and its not the governments job to do it. if you go to a hospital they cant deny you health care and there are free clinics that you can go to. the govenment would screw it up. and some people who generally need it i can understnd but there are some people who would rather waste their money on atvs and and other thiings that they dont need instead of getting health insurance and then they complain that it costs to much.
When you're not living with your parents and living off them healthcare is expensive and a lot of people can't afford it.

huginnmuninn
September 3rd, 2010, 05:45 PM
When you're not living with your parents and living off them healthcare is expensive and a lot of people can't afford it.

thats why i put that some people cant afford it and i understand that but for people who can and would rather spend it on luxuries than things that they need it annoys me.

Perseus
September 3rd, 2010, 10:09 PM
no! there isnt enough money for it and its not the governments job to do it. if you go to a hospital they cant deny you health care and there are free clinics that you can go to. the govenment would screw it up. and some people who generally need it i can understnd but there are some people who would rather waste their money on atvs and and other thiings that they dont need instead of getting health insurance and then they complain that it costs to much.
France seems to be doing well on universal.

DarkHorses
September 3rd, 2010, 10:15 PM
The government should not be in control of our health care. Health and government are two different things, and the idea of the government being in control of our health care is just a really scary thought to me. Yes, everyone deserves health care, IF they work towards becoming successful so that they can get that health care. Your future is up to you, you can't always be protected by the government.

Amnesiac
September 3rd, 2010, 10:26 PM
The government should not be in control of our health care. Health and government are two different things, and the idea of the government being in control of our health care is just a really scary thought to me. Yes, everyone deserves health care, IF they work towards becoming successful so that they can get that health care. Your future is up to you, you can't always be protected by the government.

Then why not introduce a government sponsored optional healthcare plan? You'd still have the opportunity to go to a private insurer for greater coverage, but if you're low on cash you could use the government's basic service to protect you when you're in need of medical attention and don't have the insurance to cover it.

DarkHorses
September 3rd, 2010, 10:55 PM
Then why not introduce a government sponsored optional healthcare plan? You'd still have the opportunity to go to a private insurer for greater coverage, but if you're low on cash you could use the government's basic service to protect you when you're in need of medical attention and don't have the insurance to cover it.

This I don't see a problem with. If you can't afford health care then the government should be able to sponsor your health care, but if you can afford better then you should be able to. I think this is a much better idea then the health care plan we have now.

Amnesiac
September 3rd, 2010, 11:08 PM
This I don't see a problem with. If you can't afford health care then the government should be able to sponsor your health care, but if you can afford better then you should be able to. I think this is a much better idea then the health care plan we have now.

This would have been the plan if the Republicans hadn't forced it out of the bill. We'd have optional universal health care instead of mandatory privatized health care.

huginnmuninn
September 4th, 2010, 08:32 PM
France seems to be doing well on universal.

well the us isnt france last time i checked

Perseus
September 5th, 2010, 08:08 AM
well the us isnt france last time i checked

Your point? You were going on a tangent about how bad it is, but France is one of the most stable countries right now and they're going off of universal, like most of Europe.