Biofuels

[mrmcdonaldduck]

Are bio fuels a truly better option? They take land away from true food production, and one of the main bio fuels, palm oil is a major contributer to carbon dioxide emmissions, through deforestation.

I say that biofuel production be halted, and replaced with normal, edible foods.

what do you guys think?

[Magus]

So. You want better alternatives?

Then seek out these links:

Click me[vid] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAMjThFnsK8)
Click me[Article] (http://www.alternative-energy-resources.net/hydrogenfuelcar.html)
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Tec

[mrmcdonaldduck]

So. You want better alternatives?

Then seek out these links:

Click me[vid] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAMjThFnsK8)
Click me[Article] (http://www.alternative-energy-resources.net/hydrogenfuelcar.html)
Click me[vid] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU)

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Credits:
Tec

Hydrogen cars are not going to happen. sorry it has to be said. What i want in an alternative is electric or water cars. I do not want a fuel that takes away prime agricultural land and clears rainforest. I do like the water car idea

[Tiberius]

It takes two gallons of gasoline for every gallon of bio-fuel to be produced, and the ratio for the production of liquid hydrogen is worse. Those options all suck. The only real answer right now is further fusion development to be able to produce portable, efficient reactors to put in things like cars.

[Amnesiac]

It takes two gallons of gasoline for every gallon of bio-fuel to be produced, and the ratio for the production of liquid hydrogen is worse. Those options all suck. The only real answer right now is further fusion development to be able to produce portable, efficient reactors to put in things like cars.

As I said in the other thread, as much as I agree and support the continued research of nuclear fusion energy, it just doesn't seem to be a viable solution for the near future.

Unless something new is invented, it seems electric cars are the most flexible and popular solution.

[huginnmuninn]

As I said in the other thread, as much as I agree and support the continued research of nuclear fusion energy, it just doesn't seem to be a viable solution for the near future.

Unless something new is invented, it seems electric cars are the most flexible and popular solution.

even in electtric cars a lot of the electricity initially comes from gas

[Amnesiac]

even in electtric cars a lot of the electricity initially comes from gas

Unless you get that electricity from a renewable energy power company, where a chunk of your electricity comes from green sources.

[Magus]

To redeem my previous post:

Biofuel - Ethanol is also used as a biofuel. Algae produces Ethanol as a byproduct. Cultivating algae and collecting Ethanol is the only other way we can get biofuels instead of harvesting corn or bringing down trees.

Click me[wiki] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel)
Click me (http://cleantech.com/news/2961/algal-biofuels-algenol-ethanol-solazyme-sonora-mexico)
Click me (http://algaefuel.org/)
Click me (http://www.oakhavenpc.org/cultivating_algae.htm)
Click me (http://www.technologyreview.com/biztech/20319/)

[danielf123]

If marijuana becomes legal in California under Prop 19 this year
im gonna and wanna put my money on Hemp
if its legalized under california law, itll put into motion the legalization all over the country which in turn will lead to us being able to grow Hemp once more

Hemp is industrial Cannabis, but this cannabis has next to no THC so you cant get high
Cannabis is a very viable choice for Biofuel because it would be cheap to make and easy to get the resource, if hemp is legalized anyways (industrial cannabis can be processed and possesed, which is why you find many hemp products all over the U.S, but for some reason it is illegal to grow, all the hemp we use is imported)

Cannabis plants release the same amount of oxygen that a car running on Cannabis Biofuel would pollute. So they cross each other out making for a cheap, viable fuel source we can grow that doesnt pollute
The thing is that it can also be used to make paper, cloths, cellophane, dynatmie, etc...
and we can use the seeds it produces as food because Cannabis seeds are very healthy so instead of taking away crop space for food, we end up using the plants as the biofuel while also harvesting the seeds as food.

That said, cannabis is called "weed" for a reason
thats what it is, or at least thats how it grows
It can survive brutal climates almost anywhere in the world! (if its for industry, it dont matter, Marijuana, the one that gets you high, does matter about the climate, but thats not what im talking about)
It grows well pretty much everywhere, just like a weed
so that means we wouldnt have to divert huge fields to cannabis or anything, sure, big fields of it will be needed for industry, but at the same time, you could go to the country side in middle america and simply plant hemp seeds all over and they'd grow. Again, im talking about HEMP not MARIJUANA
they are the same species of plant (cannabis) but Hemp doesnt get you high