Drug Abuse Poll

[xxBVBarmyxx]

I drink whenever possible. the reason i drink is because i love the burn, i love getting drunk, and mainly i just love feeling free with out self-harming. I know the heath warnings but really kinda don't care much as long as my parents don't catch me. i could stop when ever I wanted, but i just don't want to. I haven't really done anything else.

[Martianus]

I tried only marijuana

[Neverender]

I'd answer the poll, but to be honest it's a bit crappy. Where's the option for "I drink/smoke ciggies or weed/do other stuff on a limited basis when I'm partying every once in a while, and continue to do so because I'm a) not addicted and b) at that level of use there are no major health risks, at least not without long-term chronic use"? All the options in this poll make whoever answers sound like some kind of hardcore addict-in-denial. No thanks.

This is my opinion. I've taken numerous drugs and I'm well aware of their effects and Biochemistry.

[HeroesAndCons]

I smoke ciggarettes... but i am not planning to drop that.
I started smoking weed and i don't know what ill do with that...

[whiteyrhys]

I've never done drugs. Mostly because I hate them and hate what they do to people and because I'm an athlete - if I was caught I'd be crucified.

[Neverender]

I've never done drugs. Mostly because I hate them and hate what they do to people and because I'm an athlete - if I was caught I'd be crucified.

Aren't you aware that most drugs don't actually do anything to people when used in moderation?

[SamW]

I don't do any hard drugs or anything. I just occasionally smoke pot. Not addicted or anything.

[workingatperfect]

I smoke pot pretty often, and occasionally do shrooms and ecstasy.
I've done a number of other drugs as well, mostly pills, but I haven't done anything other than those listed above in about a year, simply because they got boring and I don't care to spend my money on it anymore.

[Christine.]

I smoked pot once. Just to see

[Dake]

hell no f*** the drugs

[chris1997]

Straight edge till death xxx

[rockymountainway]

I smoke weed every few weeks. If I really wanted to, I could definitely stop. In fact, I've gone for months at a time without smoking. I know weed is practically harmless, so I'm not going to stop anytime soon. If anything, I'm going to do it more.

[Human]

Never done any illegal drugs, but I will probably in the future. I want to try cannabis. :D

[Stephan]

I've never done drugs, and I will never do them.

'Nuff said.

[Matt_2012]

I enjoy smoking cannabis moderately because it chills me out and it calms my ocd.. But i don't like to do it all the time because i just end up feeling drowsy after.

[Hungman]

i have very high grades, and do intensive workouts 3-5 times a week.

I smoke cannabis regularly, on a bi/tri weekly basis - everyday and have been for the better part of 2 years now. My grades have remained the same and my physical fitness has improved since i started, because when i did start i made an agreement with myself that if i was going to smoke weed i will exercise, i have not yet broken that agreement. I have done high doses of mushrooms in the past and will try again in the future, i have done acid 10 times, DXM twice (cough syrup, so dirty will never do again), done pills/ecstacy as well as pure MDMA crystals (on occasion, once every 3-4 months) cocaine once or twice (will only do if offered, to much money) and nitrous oxide. My favourite drug is LSD, however i use cannabis most often. I am stopping all drug use when my HSC officially starts and feel in no way these experiences have effected me negatively. Some will say i have a problem, some will say i have an addiction(s), but if you knew me you would know im a responsible person who puts his priorities (school work, health) first and his fun second. All the drugs i have taken are from trusted sources and are in no way harmful to your health (if you are perfectly healthy to begin with ie no mental disorders) IN MODERATION. Over use of anything can be a problem, its all about moderation

edit - funnily enough i do not smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol as they have serious impacts on your health not just in the long term. I also do not drink coffee. Many people (on this forum and just in general) think taking any illegal drug is bad and will kill you when in actual fact if you do your research look up the facts and just be sensible when taking drugs there isnt a lot that can go wrong. I do however, must say that while it may sound i am advocating drug use, some drugs are not for some people. Also the 'harder' the drug, the more moderation required.

[virgcross]

Never have never will, drugs ruin lives.

[Danny_boi 16]

I've never done drugs, and i will never do them.

[Emerald Dream]

I have never done drugs, and I don't plan to in the future.

[Penteract]

I've never done drugs, and I don't plan on doing so in the future. There's really no point in doing it in my personal behalf. <- That would be the main psychological reason. Together with my profound knowledge of the damage drugs do & the fact that I'm quite a precautious individual. Apart from that, I have severe bronchitis which leads to the conclusion that if I did drugs I'd probably end up borderline dead, emotionally & physically (in the sense of gas consumed drugs).

[Jen Jones]

I just smoke weed occasionally and know the dangers

[Lost in the Echo]

Why do you do drugs? If you do, and you are still doing any illegal drugs, why do you do them, list a few reasons. Simply because they make me feel way better than when i'm sober. It also helps me say things that i've been bottling up.
I just smoke weed a few times a month, and drink about 1-2 times a week.
I used to be an alcohloic, but now i'm able to control my drinking.:)

[ULeon]

i use to get carried away with people at parities and stuff, but now i really don't see what the whole point of it is, sure it makes you feel all fun and chill or hyper (depending on what you do) but think about it the hang overs after wards and eating all the junkfood and cravings, and doing things you might regret...i just dont really see a point, i mean i still do them once in a while but hardly ever. maybe smoke 1 or 2 a year, and drink at 1 out of 10 parties.

[MrVanity]

I use drugs while out with friends dispite the risks because i like using.

I know all the risks but frankly i have little regard for my health.

[Lunar]

I don't use drugs or plan on using them in the future.

[MrMundane]

I've done weed, LSD, cocaine, molly, shrooms, drink when possible.
I have been chain smoking cigarettes ever since an old job, few months now.
I'm off LSD right now but went through some binges.
Weed helps me get through every night, can't sleep.
Never been really into molly.
cocaine is relatively new and I fear my self restraint has fled.
I would love to stop cigarettes the most. I would like to not start coke but my only friend does it and I would probably kill myself if he stopped chilling with me, so its a dilemma.

Also the only thing weed does is decrease lung capacity by a few percents. Cigarettes are much worse, why do you think weed is considered medicinal?

[xmojox]

I had a problem with opiates but I stopped all by myself. It's the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, but I'm proud of myself. I stopped alcohol (which is a drug) at the same time. I smoke weed and take meds from my doctors, but I've been clean for quite awhile now and really never think about using again.

[legitsource]

i do pot once or twice a month and sometimes a weekend addy binge. decent grades and what not. really advise against the addy binges though... tweakin can be pretty scary after 3 days

[AbbaZabba]

Never tried them and never will. I have the ability to create my own highs.

[Erasmus]

I have never tried drugs, and I never will.

[Trukfit4lyfe]

I have tried various forms of psychoactive substances that range from the different tryptamines to phenethlamines, to opiates, stimulants and more! My favorite chemical would have to be Methamphetamine, I always make sure to do meth at least once or twice a day. Other marvelous things I have had the honor of sampling are Canabis, LSD-25, Dimethyltryptamine, Oxycontin, Xanax, Various other Benzodiazipines, Multiple prescription and non prescription stimulants including Adderall and other forms of amphetamine, 4-MAR, MDPV, and many Research stims. Other substances include MDMA, Methylone, Mescaline, DXM, Psilocybe, 2c-b, 2c-e, 2c-i, 2c-p, 25i NBome, Salvia Divinorum, Alcohol, GHB, Heroin, Hydrocodone, Methadone, Suboxone, Cocaine-hcl, Cocaine-hbr. Ketamine, Ketamine-S isomer, Datura (only once though), Methoxatamine, PCP, 5-MEO-AMT, Codeine, Diphenhydramine, and N20. Those are just the ones off the top of my head there are most likely more.

[hyperkid99]

I've never done drugs, and I'll never try them

[marrisa]

I don't do drugs.But I can't say I never will.When I'm in college maybe I will smoke a little pot.Who knows?But I am just starting high school and now is not the time.

[suicidalbutter]

I almost became a long term alcoholic because of the choices I made, now I just smoke weed every now and again. I don't see a problem with it. I've done all the research. I'd rather smoke weed every once in awhile than continue drinking. Lesser of two evils for me.

[devyn]

i do pot, but i only do it socially. at partys and stuff. i basically only do it when i want to have a good time, with friends, and laugh at grasshoppers and stuff. lol
i do know the risks. and also some of the benefits.

[GypsyGirl]

The only illegal drug I've done before is marijuana, and I'm not psychologically addicted to it so personally I don't think it's a big deal. If offered again while with a group I would join in. I take aderall almost daily non-prescribed. Have been for the last 9 months. My sister gets them and doesn't take so I do. I would smoke weed again because it feels nice. It's like a pleasant high. I keep taking adderall because I don't want to not take it. I mean when I'm not taking it I'm sad and slow and cry plus I'd feel sick from not taking it. But when I'm taking it it's more like I can control myself. Everything feel how it should be.

I've done weed, LSD, cocaine, molly, shrooms, drink when possible.
I have been chain smoking cigarettes ever since an old job, few months now.
I'm off LSD right now but went through some binges.
Weed helps me get through every night, can't sleep.
Never been really into molly.
cocaine is relatively new and I fear my self restraint has fled.
I would love to stop cigarettes the most. I would like to not start coke but my only friend does it and I would probably kill myself if he stopped chilling with me, so its a dilemma.

Also the only thing weed does is decrease lung capacity by a few percents. Cigarettes are much worse, why do you think weed is considered medicinal?

Would they really stop hanging around if you didn't do it with them?

[drmindfreak]

i've done more drugs that i'd like to admit, but mostly enjoyed them so whatevs
anyway, half the drugs are prescribed by doctors so it is all so hypocritical

[Strelok]

Why do you do drugs? If you do, and you are still doing any illegal drugs, why do you do them, list a few reasons.

It helps me relax, I enjoy being with my friends, we all share a joint, have a good laugh, it's not damaging our minds. Once we're not high anymore, we are back to normal. I do weed. I've tried shrooms, poppers and numb gums with coke. but I'll not do the latter two again. I don't have an addictive personality. I've stopped for months at a time with no issue. no withdraw symptoms. I only do it when in the mood. Which isn't too often

[TheUselessAndUnwantd]

I smoke marijuana and have since i was 13. i have stopped many times sometimes just because. other times i had to stop due to a change in living conditions or something of that nature. other then that i smoke because i have chronic back pain due to a preexisting condition. it seems to help quite a bit. plus i used to be quite and angry person, now im not. i havnt gotten angry for anything in months. oh yeah...i forgot, no promoting.

POTS BAD

^see? no promoting here

[lifelies]

I need to clarify.
I stopped smoking cigarettes on October 11th, and not because of the health warnings and shit but because of the addiction itself.
Life is not worth living when you're being controlled by a dumb chemical named nicotine... You can't be stronger than nicotine but then you don't have to, it's just about doing it one day at a time. I tried to quit 70 times (seriously) and I never lasted more than 2 weeks, now I'm almost 3 months smokefree :)
I smoked weed three times since September but I also stopped it, not because of anything it was just that I was paranoid of being caught. I don't intend to stop smoking weed and I still will smoke the occasional joint/bowl.
That's because it's not addictive like cigarettes are.

[AlexOnToast]

I have tried, smokes, Cannabis, Ecstacy, LSD and Ket...I have smoked a little bit of crack before but I dont like to count that.....I take acid once in a while but that needs to stop.
I dont want drugs to be part of my life

[ECSTASY]

I have tried, smokes, Cannabis, Ecstacy, LSD and Ket...I have smoked a little bit of crack before but I dont like to count that.....I take acid once in a while but that needs to stop.
I dont want drugs to be part of my life

Oh dude you should stop it as soon as possible :o it doesnt worth to ruin your life just for a bunch of fake feelings and illusions :s

[sethieisbestie]

I do meth, well I did meth. As of yesterday I am never touching the stuff again. I did because I thought it would make me look cool until it became an addiction and I couldnt stop.

[KendraKnox]

I've smoked weed with my friends a few times, but its hardly an addiction. Didn't think there was really a proper option on that poll for me.

[Karkat]

Technically I do not use illicit drugs- it's just the extent of my use that makes it illegal.

When I drank, I was 12-15. So underage.

Nowadays I mostly use inhalants and OTC/other medication, etc. I've been trying to stop, but I'm kind of addicted to feeling high/stoned/drunk. I'm a recovering alcoholic, and I've been sober for 1 1/2 years in March, which is the longest I've lasted without relapsing.

[Kurgg]

I have tried DXM, and have doing it for a while. I don't do it regularly thought, because DXM-containing products are here very expensive, and causes diarrhea. Second reason is that I am paranoid of buying it, since some pharmaseuts know about abusing DXM.

I tried to make alcohol, but I was caught on making it. I never got myself drunk.

[randomuser666]

I used cannabis regularly(as in a few times a week), for about a month and a half last year. However due to a bad experience I cut back to about once a month. I had another bad experience a few weeks ago and just decided to stop, mainly because I think I'm too mentally fragile to handle an altered mind state. Plus I'm not even 16; I'm not mature enough

[Karkat]

I used cannabis regularly(as in a few times a week), for about a month and a half last year. However due to a bad experience I cut back to about once a month. I had another bad experience a few weeks ago and just decided to stop, mainly because I think I'm too mentally fragile to handle an altered mind state. Plus I'm not even 16; I'm not mature enough

Ah, see, a lot of people give me crap about not wanting to smoke weed with them, and that's part of the reason for me. I can't handle being high, or drunk, or stoned. And I DEFINITELY can't handle it around someone else. I guess I didn't really think anyone else felt this way.

[randomuser666]

Ah, see, a lot of people give me crap about not wanting to smoke weed with them, and that's part of the reason for me. I can't handle being high, or drunk, or stoned. And I DEFINITELY can't handle it around someone else. I guess I didn't really think anyone else felt this way.

luckily the times i was high around people i was just happy and giggly, and only one person was there to see me get way too high and have a full-blown panic attack

yeah one of my friends also has given me crap about it, however he uses it in conjunction with the fact I have nothing in common with him and my other friend anymore(which IS true). but I'm not going to smoke to balance that, just do the other stuff(which is just surfing/longboarding).

[Karkat]

luckily the times i was high around people i was just happy and giggly, and only one person was there to see me get way too high and have a full-blown panic attack

yeah one of my friends also has given me crap about it, however he uses it in conjunction with the fact I have nothing in common with him and my other friend anymore(which IS true). but I'm not going to smoke to balance that, just do the other stuff(which is just surfing/longboarding).

Ah, I have terrible paranoia. I also tend to get INSANELY aggressive if I'm provoked.

Yeeeeah that's a pretty sucky thing to only have in common with someone :P If you're really that distant, smoking certainly shouldn't be a thing to bring you together. XD Good luck though. :)

[randomuser666]

Ah, I have terrible paranoia. I also tend to get INSANELY aggressive if I'm provoked.

Yeeeeah that's a pretty sucky thing to only have in common with someone :P If you're really that distant, smoking certainly shouldn't be a thing to bring you together. XD Good luck though. :)

for me it was more like the world melted away and I felt really alone. My thoughts were just bouncing around in my head, that's it. I understand now why people use drugs as an escape and stuff. and thanks, you too!

[Croconaw]

I will never do drugs.

[lifelies]

I don't get why you say that drugs are stupid, I find that's disrespectful for those who are addicted to them. They're not stupid, they're intelligent, otherwise there wouldn't be so many people addicted to them.

I don't know if I have already answered this thread, but I smoke cigarettes and I used to smoke weed once a week until my dealer moved away and now I'm not really smoking it anymore because I'm terrified to ask for a new dealer lol.
As for hard(er) drugs, I've done codeine and benzodiazepines (diazepam/Valium, lorazepam/Ativan and alprazolam/Xanax). My father is a physician and he eats pills like candies, so I always take what I find at his house. I've not done those pills in a while tho, but I always love to take some.
I found out that he takes methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta) too, but I haven't popped any yet because it was a new pack and I didn't want to open it.
I regularly do hydroxyzine HCl (Atarax, the pamoate salt is also known as Vistaril) theoretically for my allergies but really for its sedative effects which I find very benzo-likely. I also use it to potentiate opioids whenever I take them.
Oh and I got drunk like 3 times (alone) before I found out how nasty it is and how lovely other drugs are (IRONY).

[phuckphace]

I don't get why you say that drugs are stupid, I find that's disrespectful for those who are addicted to them. They're not stupid, they're intelligent, otherwise there wouldn't be so many people addicted to them.

poorest excuse to justify drug abuse that I have ever read in my entire life. bravo to you sir.

[lifelies]

poorest excuse to justify drug abuse that I have ever read in my entire life. bravo to you sir.

Well you apparently didn't get it sir.
I'm just saying that I find it disrespectful that people like you say that drugs are "stupid". Dude, drug addicts are ILL PEOPLE.
I'm sure you don't say cancer is "stupid".

The funniest thing is that lots of drug addicts were once disrespectful anti-drugs like you. If you ever find yourself being addicted to a drug, you'll get why they're not stupid. Or maybe they're stupid and they just hook stupid people like me but not people like you?
Oh gosh c'mon.

[Luminous]

I've never done any drugs (besides when prescribed) and I won't ever in the future, at least, I really hope not. I will try.

[phuckphace]

Well you apparently didn't get it sir.
I'm just saying that I find it disrespectful that people like you say that drugs are "stupid". Dude, drug addicts are ILL PEOPLE.
I'm sure you don't say cancer is "stupid".

The funniest thing is that lots of drug addicts were once disrespectful anti-drugs like you. If you ever find yourself being addicted to a drug, you'll get why they're not stupid. Or maybe they're stupid and they just hook stupid people like me but not people like you?
Oh gosh c'mon.

1. people make the conscious choice to begin using a drug that they understand is highly addictive and damaging, but they do it anyway because they don't care and just want to escape from their surroundings.

2. cancer is an involuntary disease that happens to people against their will. gonna need a better analogy because the two are not even remotely comparable.

3. pretty sure I can't get addicted to drugs if I don't try them in the first place. you're making it sound like I could just wake up one day and find myself with a heroin needle jabbed in my arm. addicts have no one to blame but themselves for their condition

[backjruton]

I've never done drugs but that doesn't mean to say I never will. I could slip up one day, and then I would have failed myself by saying I will never do them so I'm not going to rule anything out... :|

[lifelies]

1. people make the conscious choice to begin using a drug that they understand is highly addictive and damaging, but they do it anyway because they don't care and just want to escape from their surroundings.

2. cancer is an involuntary disease that happens to people against their will. gonna need a better analogy because the two are not even remotely comparable.

3. pretty sure I can't get addicted to drugs if I don't try them in the first place. you're making it sound like I could just wake up one day and find myself with a heroin needle jabbed in my arm. addicts have no one to blame but themselves for their condition

I'm not saying that addicts should blame others. We have the freedom of taking our own choices while we take the responsability linked to them, and of course no one forced me to start doing drugs so I got addicted because I wanted.
What I want you to understand is that some people like me have underlying conditions like BPD (borderline personality disorder) that have substance abuse as a symptom because of its related null impulse control.
I used to be like you. If it happened to me, why can't it happen to you. Imagine loosing everything you ever loved one day. Imagine being in a situation in which you were likely going to die, and then thinking "Why didn't I die, I'd rather die than live." That's why I started doing drugs. I was really afraid of killing myself.
Believe it or not, it CAN happen to you.

What I meant with that is that it's not fair that addicts are treated like useless individuals who must be taken apart of society. The fear of addiction and stupid drug on wars are the reason of most drug-related deaths and crimes.
If you could go to your doctor and just get heroin, cocaine or any other drug (of course if you were already hooked), do you think all the drug mafia would even exist?
If there were basic harm reduction culture, heroin users would know how to safely IV their heroin.
If drugs were pure and not filled with toxic binders, there wouldn't be so much risk of overdose with drugs like heroin or cocaine.

I'm just asking you to PLEASE treat addicts like people, because all of us were once like you are right now, and if we ended up being addicts, it might as well happen to you, and I'm sure you'd think you deserved some respect afterwards.

[Dragon Grisu]

I don`t do drug and I surely never will!! A friend of mine is smoking cannabis for several years now. There is nothing he is good for anymore. He had lost his work, spent all his money, and is doing nothing but smoking. There is nothing he is still interested in than cannabis. No girls, no party, nothing. He is 31 and smoked for more than ten years. And thats it: His life is in ruins.

[jayce_xt]

i have very high grades, and do intensive workouts 3-5 times a week.

I smoke cannabis regularly, on a bi/tri weekly basis - everyday and have been for the better part of 2 years now. My grades have remained the same and my physical fitness has improved since i started, because when i did start i made an agreement with myself that if i was going to smoke weed i will exercise, i have not yet broken that agreement. I have done high doses of mushrooms in the past and will try again in the future, i have done acid 10 times, DXM twice (cough syrup, so dirty will never do again), done pills/ecstacy as well as pure MDMA crystals (on occasion, once every 3-4 months) cocaine once or twice (will only do if offered, to much money) and nitrous oxide. My favourite drug is LSD, however i use cannabis most often. I am stopping all drug use when my HSC officially starts and feel in no way these experiences have effected me negatively. Some will say i have a problem, some will say i have an addiction(s), but if you knew me you would know im a responsible person who puts his priorities (school work, health) first and his fun second. All the drugs i have taken are from trusted sources and are in no way harmful to your health (if you are perfectly healthy to begin with ie no mental disorders) IN MODERATION. Over use of anything can be a problem, its all about moderation

edit - funnily enough i do not smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol as they have serious impacts on your health not just in the long term. I also do not drink coffee. Many people (on this forum and just in general) think taking any illegal drug is bad and will kill you when in actual fact if you do your research look up the facts and just be sensible when taking drugs there isnt a lot that can go wrong. I do however, must say that while it may sound i am advocating drug use, some drugs are not for some people. Also the 'harder' the drug, the more moderation required.

^^^^ This. For the love of science, this. I don't smoke marijuana regularly, and I have my apprehensions about cocaine, but in every other respect, my experience matches this gentleman's. While I wouldn't say I'm necessarily "a fucking genius", I'm also not exactly "a goddamned moron", either. I used to believe the same lies everyone else was told: that drugs are dangerous and evil. Then I decided to find out for myself. I've continued to be an A/B student, have no criminal record at all, get along with the children I babysit just fine, and am otherwise "the perfect middle-class white boy" stereotype. If I'd told any of my parents' friends all the kinds of drugs I'd done, they'd either be shocked out of their wits or think I was lying.

It still amazes me the lengths that governments around the world have gone to spread misinformation about drugs (or revolutions, or genocides, or anything else). Sometimes I worry that they'll convince the majority of the world's people about something truly frightening--such as "rulers have the right to kill citizens because citizens are property", for instance--and that the citizens of America or Brasil or Britain will calmly go along with it. It frightens me how infrequently people choose to think for themselves. It also frightens me just how elaborately truth is sometimes obscured to the point that even rational people have difficulty discerning facts from fictions.

[phuckphace]

ITT druggie logic on full display. yes everything you have ever been told about drugs was a LIE fabricated by the BIG MEAN GOVERNMENT because they're all a bunch of Buzz Killingtons who hate fun. :rolleyes: breathless conspiracy theories about why drugs are "really" illegal and personal anecdotes about the noble tweaker who is a straight A student and pillar of the community are unbelievably worn and tattered. no matter how many times a druggie tries to justify his dysfunction with this sort of glib hand-waving, the fact remains that hard drugs continue to destroy thousands of lives and erode communities. here in Oklahoma there are numerous towns that were once quiet farming communities, but are now mini-Detroits with rampant drug-related crime and violence. property values have sunk into the ground, you can buy a three-bedroom house in some places for as little as $5,000 if you don't mind that its previous owner cooked meth in it or that there is a crack house operating next door.

for you druggie apologists who are preaching about "moderation", why exactly do you think drugs are illegal? I'll tell you why - people in this day and age have almost no personal responsibility or grasp of the concept of moderation or restraint, which is partially why we have so many addicts running around. up until the turn of the 20th century you could go to the pharmacist, buy a bottle of heroin and get fucked up on it if you wanted to - BUT almost nobody did, the difference between then and now. if we legalized heroin in that manner today, our countries would collapse in about a month.

here in 2014 we have the drug laws that our society deserves. if most of us weren't hedonistic and infantile kids-with-kids who don't learn the facts of life until our 30s, the laws could be different, but unfortunately that's the way it is.

[xandyx]

ITT druggie logic on full display. yes everything you have ever been told about drugs was a LIE fabricated by the BIG MEAN GOVERNMENT because they're all a bunch of Buzz Killingtons who hate fun. :rolleyes: breathless conspiracy theories about why drugs are "really" illegal and personal anecdotes about the noble tweaker who is a straight A student and pillar of the community are unbelievably worn and tattered. no matter how many times a druggie tries to justify his dysfunction with this sort of glib hand-waving, the fact remains that hard drugs continue to destroy thousands of lives and erode communities. here in Oklahoma there are numerous towns that were once quiet farming communities, but are now mini-Detroits with rampant drug-related crime and violence. property values have sunk into the ground, you can buy a three-bedroom house in some places for as little as $5,000 if you don't mind that its previous owner cooked meth in it or that there is a crack house operating next door.

for you druggie apologists who are preaching about "moderation", why exactly do you think drugs are illegal? I'll tell you why - people in this day and age have almost no personal responsibility or grasp of the concept of moderation or restraint, which is partially why we have so many addicts running around. up until the turn of the 20th century you could go to the pharmacist, buy a bottle of heroin and get fucked up on it if you wanted to - BUT almost nobody did, the difference between then and now. if we legalized heroin in that manner today, our countries would collapse in about a month.

here in 2014 we have the drug laws that our society deserves. if most of us weren't hedonistic and infantile kids-with-kids who don't learn the facts of life until our 30s, the laws could be different, but unfortunately that's the way it is.

^^^ This. So much this!!

My foster bros and sis could tell you how "awesome" drugs are, and so could I. My biological parents neglected me to go get high. My "dad" left me in my playpen probably for 12 hours at a time and didn't speak to me because he was all zoned out on something or other. I fricken learned to talk and even think way late because of that "noble" tweaker. I didn't even know HOW to healthily attach to people because I was basically IGNORED as a baby...and I still don't sometimes but I'm getting better. He also left me with some random neighbor so many times to go score. Didn't tell anyone where I was or anything. God knows what else he did, I was only like 1 or 2 but I'm still suffering from mental illness for that frickin buzz. :mad:

[phuckphace]

^^^ This. So much this!!

My foster bros and sis could tell you how "awesome" drugs are, and so could I. My biological parents neglected me to go get high. My "dad" left me in my playpen probably for 12 hours at a time and didn't speak to me because he was all zoned out on something or other. I fricken learned to talk and even think way late because of that "noble" tweaker. I didn't even know HOW to healthily attach to people because I was basically IGNORED as a baby...and I still don't sometimes but I'm getting better. He also left me with some random neighbor so many times to go score. Didn't tell anyone where I was or anything. God knows what else he did, I was only like 1 or 2 but I'm still suffering from mental illness for that frickin buzz. :mad:

stories like this are heartbreaking to read, all the more so when you witness firsthand the horrible effects of hard drugs and then hear some snot-nosed anarchist whining about the need for all-out legalization. the next time someone says that to my face they'll probably end up getting socked in the jaw

[Dalcourt]

I've done drugs and still do sometimes...it's hard for me to stop completely even if I try as everyone around me seems to do drugs.

My mother was heavily addicted doing drugs during pregnancy and my Dad also is a drug addict. He tried to stop several times but just doesn't manage to do it.

With all those drugs around me it was easy for me to try them out myself and as nobody where I live seems to see any harm in drugs it's hard to stop completely as I said...I really try, though, as I see all the harmful effects of it.

[jayce_xt]

ITT druggie logic on full display. yes everything you have ever been told about drugs was a LIE fabricated by the BIG MEAN GOVERNMENT because they're all a bunch of Buzz Killingtons who hate fun. :rolleyes: breathless conspiracy theories about why drugs are "really" illegal...

If you'd read the scientific journals on the effects of these substances, you would realize quickly that the DEA's "findings" are bullshit. Remember that newscast a while back that showed a picture of MDMA "eating holes" in a person's brain?

Yeah. That was actually a SPECT scan measuring brain activity. The "holes" were simply areas of the brain that weren't active. No actual damage to the brain occurred. In fact, many reported dangers simply aren't true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misconceptions_about_drugs (yes, sources are cited)

As for why the government would outlaw drugs, it's quite simple: social control. Authoritarians love being able to tell people what to do. No need to be full-blown Buzz Killingtons, so long as they get to tell people what kind of fun they are and aren't allowed to have.

... no applause? No hooting laughter? Ah well. Humor aside, there is some truth to this. During the 1910s, the United States led a crusade against all habit-forming substances. At this point, this meant opium and marijuana. Why, though? The answer isn't terribly tricky. Every other site I've looked at cites "moral degeneration" as the reason behind the prohibition without any sort of proof to back it up. Sounds really familiar to the alcohol ban, doesn't it? "We can solve all of our problems if we just ban this one evil substance!" Completely illogical and unfounded beliefs that, nevertheless, had a strong following.

Thing is, politicians weren't terribly interested in issues of morality before. And they weren't at the time that these changes were proposed by religious lobbyists, either. But the instant someone threw race into the mix, the senators and house representatives were all too quick to eat it up:

http://ibw21.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DrugWarHistory.pdf

There's no conspiracy here. It's just the same thing that's been repeated throughout history, time and again: governments refusing to mention or acknowledge embarrassing truths. The movement against drugs may have started by irrational moral crusaders without a leg to stand on, but it was given credence and support by people in positions of power to serve their own interests. Government officials lying isn't anything new. With the empirical research available now, demonstrating that the DEA's claims were false isn't difficult at all.

... and personal anecdotes about the noble tweaker who is a straight A student and pillar of the community are unbelievably worn and tattered.

Are you trying to imply that they aren't true, or just stating the obvious (that they've been made for a very, very long time)? Because if you're trying to prove something, you should probably provide some evidence to back it up. Otherwise, you're just making baseless assumptions.

no matter how many times a druggie tries to justify his dysfunction with this sort of glib hand-waving, the fact remains that hard drugs continue to destroy thousands of lives and erode communities. here in Oklahoma there are numerous towns that were once quiet farming communities, but are now mini-Detroits with rampant drug-related crime and violence. property values have sunk into the ground, you can buy a three-bedroom house in some places for as little as $5,000 if you don't mind that its previous owner cooked meth in it or that there is a crack house operating next door.

You still haven't shown conclusively that drugs have caused this. In order to show direct causal links, you need to demonstrate how it happens. Otherwise, you're not saying anything. You might as well have written:

"no matter how many times a black person tries to justify his dysfunction with this sort of glib hand-waving, the fact remains that black people continue to destroy thousands of lives and erode communities. here in Missouri there are numerous towns that were once quiet farming communities, but are now mini-Detroits with rampant black-related crime and violence. property values have sunk into the ground, you can buy a three-bedroom house in some places for as little as $5,000 if you don't mind that its previous owner was black in it or that there is a black family operating next door."

for you druggie apologists who are preaching about "moderation", why exactly do you think drugs are illegal? I'll tell you why - people in this day and age have almost no personal responsibility or grasp of the concept of moderation or restraint, which is partially why we have so many addicts running around.

Actually, drugs are illegal because of the combination of moral crusading and racism. And if "people in this day and age have almost no personal responsibility or grasp of the concept of moderation or restraint," why aren't our crime rates more similar to those in civil war-ridden Africa, where warlords kill, rape, and pillage as they see fit? Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

up until the turn of the 20th century you could go to the pharmacist, buy a bottle of heroin and get fucked up on it if you wanted to - BUT almost nobody did, the difference between then and now. if we legalized heroin in that manner today, our countries would collapse in about a month.

Actually, violent gangs who sell drugs would be run out of business and forced to find a new line of work. They'd more than likely actually work in legitimate drug-related industry, seeing as they have so much experience in the field, and violent drug-related crimes would see a massive drop. The reason they sell drugs, after all, is because it's so lucrative. And it's lucrative only because of the price on the black market. Take away the black market, and suddenly, they no longer need to resort to illegitimate means. Violence isn't a necessity any longer to safeguard their profits. There are no more profits to be made on a non-existent black market. What are they going to do, beat people up and force them to buy drugs at a higher price than what industrialized manufacturing can sell it for?

Being the sound businessmen that they are, I think they'd just as soon try and secure a well-paying job in the new industry without all the risk and hassle of dealing their product on the streets.

here in 2014 we have the drug laws that our society deserves. if most of us weren't hedonistic and infantile kids-with-kids who don't learn the facts of life until our 30s, the laws could be different, but unfortunately that's the way it is.

And just what are the facts of life, phuckphace?

[phuckphace]

If you'd read the scientific journals on the effects of these substances, you would realize quickly that the DEA's "findings" are bullshit. Remember that newscast a while back that showed a picture of MDMA "eating holes" in a person's brain?

Yeah. That was actually a SPECT scan measuring brain activity. The "holes" were simply areas of the brain that weren't active. No actual damage to the brain occurred. In fact, many reported dangers simply aren't true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misconceptions_about_drugs (yes, sources are cited)

I've lost count of the number of times I've heard a druggie use the debunked "MDMA causes swiss cheese brain" and "pot causes reefer madness" example to illustrate the supposed need for full bore legalization of all drugs. it's laughable. marijuana is one thing, but substances like meth and heroin are a different matter. the high-functioning meth user is ficitional. there is no "safe" or "victimless" hard drug use period.

As for why the government would outlaw drugs, it's quite simple: social control. Authoritarians love being able to tell people what to do. No need to be full-blown Buzz Killingtons, so long as they get to tell people what kind of fun they are and aren't allowed to have.

this is a textbook example of flawed libertarian thinking. according to that thinking, social control exists only because the people in charge are power hungry and get off on bossing other people around. in the real world, social control is desired because it grants stability, and the benefits of stability are self-evident. I know it really sticks in your craw to hear this, but people are not naturally wise or logical, and deference to authority is one way that humans have learned to compensate for that.

it's also funny that you missed the tongue-in-cheek tone of the "Buzz Killington" bit and in typical libertarian fashion, went on to insist that that is in fact the sole reason why drugs are illegal. well guess what! drugs are not illegal because of some authoritarian politician's desire to spoil your fun, and any anyone who actually believes that is beyond ignorant. Capslock for emphasis: MANY DRUGS ARE HARMFUL. THE HARM ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR USE CAUSES SOCIAL DYSFUNCTION. THIS DYSFUNCTION HAS FAR REACHING EFFECTS. THE GOVERNMENT RESTRICTS THEIR USE BECAUSE OF PUBLIC PRESSURE. why is that so hard for you to understand? okay so they banned marijuana too, boo fucking hoo get over it.

At this point, this meant opium

the Chinese-British opium trade and eventual war in the 19th century is actually a perfect example of the social decay and response to the same that occurs with widespread hard drug use. opium is a highly addictive substance that caused such widespread dysfunction in China that the Emperor moved to ban its use. this is the way it has always been - a substance is introduced, it begins to destroy lives, forcing the state to take action against it. the Emperor didn't take a look at all the opium dens and think, "dammit, all those people in there having fun. I DECREE NO FUN ALLOWED," but rather, he was seeing the stability and social order of his nation eroded by an addictive substance that caused infinitely more harm than benefit.

Every other site I've looked at cites "moral degeneration" as the reason behind the prohibition without any sort of proof to back it up.

because it's self-evident to everyone except people like you

Sounds really familiar to the alcohol ban, doesn't it? "We can solve all of our problems if we just ban this one evil substance!"

nice strawman. none of the people advocating Prohibition in the 1920s were ever under the impression that a ban on alcohol would "solve all our problems," that's a gross and dishonest misrepresentation of the facts. what actually happened was that there was a period of social change where behavior became more liberated, and many people resented this change because they saw it as the cause of increased social dysfunction. because alcohol is probably the most highly visible and prevalent recreational drug (and alcoholism the most well-known negative consequence of its use) it became an easy target for legislation that sought to reduce said dysfunction by restricting it. absolutely nobody thought "hey after Prohibition passes everything will be peachy again," but rather that the restriction would lessen the prevalence of alcoholism and keep it at a manageable level. Prohibition failed largely because alcohol is an odd outlier among drugs, in that moderate use without addiction is readily possible and has been part of most human cultures for thousands of years. the same cannot be said for, say, meth.

Completely illogical and unfounded beliefs that, nevertheless, had a strong following.

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yes indeed it had a strong following for some mystifying reason that you have yet to discover. five bucks says you'll never figure out what that is

Thing is, politicians weren't terribly interested in issues of morality before.

and I bet you actually believe that too!

Are you trying to imply that they aren't true

no not at all, I was wrong and it turns out that meth addicts frequently make groundbreaking innovations in the sciences and devise new life saving surgery techniques and a laundry list of other contributions to society

You still haven't shown conclusively that drugs have caused this.

*some wild-ass non sequitur about black people*

are you fucking kidding me?

Actually, drugs are illegal because of the combination of moral crusading and racism.

LMFAO!

there are numerous examples available to you that illustrate that the first, second and third-person harm caused by hard drugs is very real, including here on VT from members who have experienced it firsthand. but I'm sure your answer to that will be some goofy tinfoil hat bullshit that xandyx and anyone else making those claims are really DEA agents in disguise.

And if "people in this day and age have almost no personal responsibility or grasp of the concept of moderation or restraint," why aren't our crime rates more similar to those in civil war-ridden Africa, where warlords kill, rape, and pillage as they see fit? Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

the US has the highest per-capita violent crime rate of all Western nations, does that count?

Actually, violent gangs who sell drugs would be run out of business and forced to find a new line of work. They'd more than likely actually work in legitimate drug-related industry, seeing as they have so much experience in the field, and violent drug-related crimes would see a massive drop. The reason they sell drugs, after all, is because it's so lucrative. And it's lucrative only because of the price on the black market. Take away the black market, and suddenly, they no longer need to resort to illegitimate means. Violence isn't a necessity any longer to safeguard their profits. There are no more profits to be made on a non-existent black market. What are they going to do, beat people up and force them to buy drugs at a higher price than what industrialized manufacturing can sell it for?

yes I'm sure this would be a boon for a small handful of morally-bankrupt capitalists rushing to cash in on the opportunity to sell addictive poison to the masses for profit, for the two short weeks that the country would manage to hold together. if you can honestly read what you just wrote and not feel a single inkling of "that would probably be a bad idea for a multitude of reasons" then you're probably beyond help. the situation we're in now is bad enough, I don't even want to imagine what shape we'd be in with a legally legitimate "Philip-Morris of heroin".

And just what are the facts of life, phuckphace?

why do you care?

[jayce_xt]

I've lost count of the number of times I've heard a druggie use the debunked "MDMA causes swiss cheese brain" and "pot causes reefer madness" example to illustrate the supposed need for full bore legalization of all drugs. it's laughable. marijuana is one thing, but substances like meth and heroin are a different matter. the high-functioning meth user is ficitional. there is no "safe" or "victimless" hard drug use period.

"Marijuana is one thing." That means that you actually agree that the harms of marijuana are grossly exaggerated, if not outright false.

On a more practical note, what does criminalizing drugs accomplish? Absolutely nothing. It doesn't reduce the rates of use by any significant amount. It demonizes people who are addicted as some kind of evil, destructive entity that must, itself, be destroyed, as opposed to an ill addict who genuinely needs help to recover. And before you try and say that prisons rehabilitate, or offer rehabilitative services, I've already checked the statistics: they don't. Fewer than 2% of all prisons actually offer any kind of professional assistance for addicts.

this is a textbook example of flawed libertarian thinking. according to that thinking, social control exists only because the people in charge are power hungry and get off on bossing other people around. in the real world, social control is desired because it grants stability, and the benefits of stability are self-evident. I know it really sticks in your craw to hear this, but people are not naturally wise or logical, and deference to authority is one way that humans have learned to compensate for that.

Wow. I didn't think you'd get so worked up over sarcasm. Maybe I should joke around with you less. I don't actually think that social control exists solely because of people with superiority complexes. That's just an oversimplification of a dynamic and complex series of processes.

Also, I'm quite positive that the majority of Americans agree with you: that they are not naturally wise or logical, and that the only way they can function with any semblance of order is to let someone else make the decisions for them. That was more sarcasm, by the way.

And furthermore, this actually is not the case at all. Humans are biological computers with a social script. That is, they are instinctively guided to adapt to their social surroundings with phenomenal speed. They will believe whatever they are told to believe, conform however they are told to conform, and otherwise do whatever it takes to blend in and survive in whatever kind of social environment they find themselves in, regardless of how harsh or dangerous. Social control is simply what we use to describe the social setting that humans are to adapt to.

Human nature isn't to obey, but to adapt. If human nature was to obey, then we would get nothing done because, according to you, we would all feel a deep-seated desire to defer to someone greater than us. That's one big circle-jerk, let me tell you.

it's also funny that you missed the tongue-in-cheek tone of the "Buzz Killington" bit and in typical libertarian fashion, went on to insist that that is in fact the sole reason why drugs are illegal.

It is.

well guess what! drugs are not illegal because of some authoritarian politician's desire to spoil your fun, and any anyone who actually believes that is beyond ignorant. Capslock for emphasis: MANY DRUGS ARE HARMFUL. THE HARM ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR USE CAUSES SOCIAL DYSFUNCTION. THIS DYSFUNCTION HAS FAR REACHING EFFECTS. THE GOVERNMENT RESTRICTS THEIR USE BECAUSE OF PUBLIC PRESSURE. why is that so hard for you to understand? okay so they banned marijuana too, boo fucking hoo get over it.

I already explained: drugs are illegal because a bunch of Authoritarians like yourself saw it as their duty to "protect" the population by getting drugs banned. They had no quantitative proof to demonstrate their beliefs. They just made a baseless assumption. They performed no actual research.

To this day, there has been not one shred of evidence that shows substance abuse causes social harm or dysfunction. There have been plenty of studies, however, showing that people who cause harm to others are also prone to behaviors that indicate low self-control. Substance addiction is one of them.

Is this getting through to you yet?

Drug use is not a cause. It's a possible predictor. People who hurt other people are significantly more likely to have less self control. By insisting that drug use is the problem, you are distracting people from the actual causes, thus making any attempts at fixing the problem that much more difficult.

Also, you have yet to actually prove that drug use is socially dysfunctional. How does drug use cause harm? How does that lead to social dysfunction? I await your answer, and I hope it is logical.

the Chinese-British opium trade and eventual war in the 19th century is actually a perfect example of the social decay and response to the same that occurs with widespread hard drug use. opium is a highly addictive substance that caused such widespread dysfunction in China that the Emperor moved to ban its use. this is the way it has always been - a substance is introduced, it begins to destroy lives, forcing the state to take action against it. the Emperor didn't take a look at all the opium dens and think, "dammit, all those people in there having fun. I DECREE NO FUN ALLOWED," but rather, he was seeing the stability and social order of his nation eroded by an addictive substance that caused infinitely more harm than benefit.

Do you really have so selective a grasp of history? The Chinese Emperor banned opium because it was causing a massive trade imbalance. Chinese goods were in high demand, whereas the Chinese had little demand for anything else. Opium became extremely popular, but England had a monopoly on it. The only way the Chinese could get Opium, then, was by trading with England on their terms. This severely dented China's otherwise massive advantage in global trade, resulting in tons of wealth flowing back out of China and into England. At the time, opium was completely legal in England, and there was no "social dysfunction" occurring as a result. The Chinese Emperor may have said publicly that it was because it was "harmful", but there was no notable increase in crime or other indicators of "social dysfunction" during this time period. Upon banning opium, China briefly saw a resurgence in its dominance in global trade. Until, of course, England went to war with them.

because it's self-evident to everyone except people like you

Then enlighten me. Unless, of course, you can't actually explain how it is. Which I'm beginning to suspect is the case.

nice strawman. none of the people advocating Prohibition in the 1920s were ever under the impression that a ban on alcohol would "solve all our problems," that's a gross and dishonest misrepresentation of the facts. what actually happened was that there was a period of social change where behavior became more liberated, and many people resented this change because they saw it as the cause of increased social dysfunction. because alcohol is probably the most highly visible and prevalent recreational drug (and alcoholism the most well-known negative consequence of its use) it became an easy target for legislation that sought to reduce said dysfunction by restricting it. absolutely nobody thought "hey after Prohibition passes everything will be peachy again," but rather that the restriction would lessen the prevalence of alcoholism and keep it at a manageable level.

Instead, we saw an enormous increase in social dysfunction. Crime rates shot through the roof.

Prohibition failed largely because alcohol is an odd outlier among drugs, in that moderate use without addiction is readily possible and has been part of most human cultures for thousands of years. the same cannot be said for, say, meth.

Actually, alcohol is pretty much exemplary of how most drugs are. Yes, methamphetamine is bad for you. I'm not disputing that. But it is also extremely possible to similarly engage in "moderate use without addiction" with MDMA, LSD, Psilocybin, and Marijuana, for example. Also, Opium, Psilocibin, Marijuana, Peyote, DMT, and Ayahuasca have been a part of most human cultures for thousands of years, too. Unless you want to say that the entirety of North and South America and Asia do not constitute "most" of human cultures.

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yes indeed it had a strong following for some mystifying reason that you have yet to discover. five bucks says you'll never figure out what that is

It's not hard to figure out. Due to the highly restricted nature of education, commonfolk have always been more readily roused by charismatic speeches than rational arguments. It's a bit much to expect full knowledge of mathematical logic from people who likely didn't know what nouns were.

and I bet you actually believe that too!

Have you read up on the backroom deals between politicians and name brand companies that cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars in property destruction or economic loss in this year alone? Have you checked out what that sort of thing was like back in industrial America and England? I would highly recommend it if you wish to become knowledgeable on the subject of political and corporate crime.

no not at all, I was wrong and it turns out that meth addicts frequently make groundbreaking innovations in the sciences and devise new life saving surgery techniques and a laundry list of other contributions to society

I don't know about methamphetamine addicts, but LSD certainly seems to be popular among the scientists:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206788

are you fucking kidding me?

No, I am not. Where is your quantitative proof? All you've done so far is make fallacious statements with questionable logic and erroneous premises. You do know what a logical premise and conclusion are, right?

LMFAO!

there are numerous examples available to you that illustrate that the first, second and third-person harm caused by hard drugs is very real, including here on VT from members who have experienced it firsthand. but I'm sure your answer to that will be some goofy tinfoil hat bullshit that xandyx and anyone else making those claims are really DEA agents in disguise.

I already made this point: drugs were criminalized due to moral crusading and racism. That's a fact. The kids here on VT were not around when the legislators put this together. They do not disprove the evidence I've presented.

Also, as I've already stated: anything can be addictive. Addiction lies within the psyche of the person, not within the morality of the chemical (because chemicals have no morality). I've read the stories here. They are kids who have had problems in the past and turned to drugs. They are kids with addictive personalities who just cannot stop once they start. This is a psychological problem that can only be dealt with using psychological approaches. No psychologist will ever say, "If the person is addicted to sex, then sex needs to be criminalized." That does not logically follow. Thus, it stands to reason that saying, "If the person is addicted to drugs, then drugs need to be criminalized" is equally fallacious.

the US has the highest per-capita violent crime rate of all tern nations, does that count?

No, because then you are purposely excluding an area that disproves your point. If your argument were true, then crime in the US would be comparable to crime in Africa, since both populations are apparently lacking in "personal responsibility or grasp of the concept of moderation or restraint."

yes I'm sure this would be a boon for a small handful of morally-bankrupt capitalists rushing to cash in on the opportunity to sell addictive poison to the masses for profit, for the two short weeks that the country would manage to hold together. if you can honestly read what you just wrote and not feel a single inkling of "that would probably be a bad idea for a multitude of reasons" then you're probably beyond help. the situation we're in now is bad enough, I don't even want to imagine what shape we'd be in with a legally legitimate "Philip-Morris of heroin".

I never said anything about allowing capitalists to monopolize the new industry. Quite the opposite, in fact: let those in the existing industry legitimize themselves and stop engaging in violence. These are two entirely separate things. Unless, in your mind, they aren't.

why do you care?

Because clearly, you seem to have everything figured out. So tell us: what are the facts of life?

[tyrfr]

I've never done drugs, and i will never do them.

[ElectricForest]

The classic "I could stop if I wanted." But it's true. I still find drugs of all kinds (excluding heroin, meth, and crack because I see no purpose in those drugs they are the three that I think no person can use without dying from direct use) as a way to warp reality and make it greater. It may sound sad that I need a drug to do that but if you don't do drugs its hard to understand. Each drug is an experience of its own. LSD was a trip that changed my view on life. It (for me) opened my eyes how we're all going to die right? Why not enjoy every second while doing what you love for money? Shroomies were kinda that same feeling after. Coke makes you superman, though it could be catastrophic if you can handle yourself its very fun. Drugs just alter the neurotransmitters one way or another right? So they're just altering your mind for the time being, but there's always a negative to them. Memory loss, kidney failures, blah blah blah all bad stuff. But its all a gamble. If you can maintain life while not frying your brain day after day, drugs are great. Once you let it control you is where it goes sour. Thats my schpeel. I'm on probation now (not drug related) so I had to stop, but I still think drugs are fun. Hence the "I could stop tomorrow," because I kinda did lol.

[Big O]

I have smoked marijuana before and I feel it has no bad effect to it just a few hours of being chill and not a care in the world

[Jack982]

I've never done drugs and never will. I just have no urge to do it and I don't like the idea of breaking the law.

[ashjk]

I smoke marijuana and I will stop sometime in the future.. I think..

[bob97]

I used to do every pill I could get my hands on, weed, synthetic weed(which is worse), I did some other synthetic drugs, and drank alot. I recently stopped. 3 months sober and I'm loving it

[Gamma Male]

I haven't done any drugs other than coffee and Asprin, but I'd like to try a hallucinagenic some day. Either weed, LSD, or shrooms. They look fun.

[CosmicNoodle]

I haven't done any drugs other than coffee and Asprin, but I'd like to try a hallucinagenic some day. Either weed, LSD, or shrooms. They look fun.

I've done weed and shrooms. By site rules I'm not allowed to reccomend them...

Seriously though, don't, weed is admittedly fun, but shrooms will fuck you up. They did to me, I highly regret doing g the shrooms. But the weed....I still do that sometimes. Just because I'm always so stressed and its relaxing.
I wouldn't reccomend starting on any drug, even if its not chemically adictiong, because often its still psychologically addicting

[Gamma Male]

I've done weed and shrooms. By site rules I'm not allowed to reccomend them...

Seriously though, don't, weed is admittedly fun, but shrooms will fuck you up. They did to me, I highly regret doing g the shrooms. But the weed....I still do that sometimes. Just because I'm always so stressed and its relaxing.
I wouldn't reccomend starting on any drug, even if its not chemically adictiong, because often its still psychologically addicting

Everything is potentially psychologically addicting, and I'm well aware of the possible side effects. I would never take any drug unless I knew for sure it wasn't laced with anything and that I wouldn't get caught.

[CosmicNoodle]

Everything is potentially psychologically addicting, and I'm well aware of the possible side effects. I would never take any drug unless I knew for sure it wasn't laced with anything and that I wouldn't get caught.

Well, I ain't your dad, do what you want and have fun. Just he careful dude. Your too awesome to end up in jail.

[ImCoolBeans]

I haven't done any drugs other than coffee and Asprin, but I'd like to try a hallucinagenic some day. Either weed, LSD, or shrooms. They look fun.

Be careful, for the most part weed isn't going to hurt you, but even people who are very experienced drug abusers have a tough time with LSD and/or shrooms.

[Gamma Male]

Be careful, for the most part weed isn't going to hurt you, but even people who are very experienced drug abusers have a tough time with LSD and/or shrooms.

:lol: Don't worry, I'm not planning on trying them anytime soon. Not that I would have any idea where to get them anyway. I know how to be responsible and discreet, and when I said I might try some in the future I meant in like a few years, after I've moved out.

[Gamma Male]

ITT druggie logic on full display. yes everything you have ever been told about drugs was a LIE fabricated by the BIG MEAN GOVERNMENT because they're all a bunch of Buzz Killingtons who hate fun. :rolleyes: breathless conspiracy theories about why drugs are "really" illegal and personal anecdotes about the noble tweaker who is a straight A student and pillar of the community are unbelievably worn and tattered. no matter how many times a druggie tries to justify his dysfunction with this sort of glib hand-waving, the fact remains that hard drugs continue to destroy thousands of lives and erode communities. here in Oklahoma there are numerous towns that were once quiet farming communities, but are now mini-Detroits with rampant drug-related crime and violence. property values have sunk into the ground, you can buy a three-bedroom house in some places for as little as $5,000 if you don't mind that its previous owner cooked meth in it or that there is a crack house operating next door.

for you druggie apologists who are preaching about "moderation", why exactly do you think drugs are illegal? I'll tell you why - people in this day and age have almost no personal responsibility or grasp of the concept of moderation or restraint, which is partially why we have so many addicts running around. up until the turn of the 20th century you could go to the pharmacist, buy a bottle of heroin and get fucked up on it if you wanted to - BUT almost nobody did, the difference between then and now. if we legalized heroin in that manner today, our countries would collapse in about a month.

here in 2014 we have the drug laws that our society deserves. if most of us weren't hedonistic and infantile kids-with-kids who don't learn the facts of life until our 30s, the laws could be different, but unfortunately that's the way it is.
Portugal.

Nuff said.

[Karkat]

:lol: Don't worry, I'm not planning on trying them anytime soon. Not that I would have any idea where to get them anyway. I know how to be responsible and discreet, and when I said I might try some in the future I meant in like a few years, after I've moved out.

Work at McDonalds. I constantly had people offering to smoke weed with me :lol:

[Gamma Male]

Work at McDonalds. I constantly had people offering to smoke weed with me :lol:

:lol: Thanks for the tip, but I don't wanna work anywhere that serves animal carcasses.

Besides, the vegan places are probably like 10x more likely to have stoners.

[Karkat]

:lol: Thanks for the tip, but I don't wanna work anywhere that serves animal carcasses.

Besides, the vegan places are probably like 10x more likely to have stoners.

Touche, vegan

Hmm, maybe. Veganism sometimes gets very free-spirit-y. I live around a lot of vegans, and they're practically hippies- but in the good way. More hygienic, probably less STD-ridden. I actually play Taiko with a lot of 'em. (Either vegan or vegetarian)

[Gamma Male]

Touche, vegan

Hmm, maybe. Veganism sometimes gets very free-spirit-y. I live around a lot of vegans, and they're practically hippies- but in the good way. More hygienic, probably less STD-ridden. I actually play Taiko with a lot of 'em. (Either vegan or vegetarian)

What's Taiko?

I met another vegan once, but he was really into new age spirituality and karma and all that other wu. He was just like, the most stereotypical hippy in existence.:lol: Plus, he hated metal. We didn't get along very well.

[Karkat]

What's Taiko?

I met another vegan once, but he was really into new age spirituality and karma and all that other wu. He was just like, the most stereotypical hippy in existence.:lol: Plus, he hated metal. We didn't get along very well.

Japanese drumming :P

C7HL5wYqAbU

LOL yeah, that sounds like most of the vegetarians/vegans around here.

[phuckphace]

Portugal.

Nuff said.

MUH PORTUGAL

demographics, dude. Portugal has an ethnically homogenous population of ~10 million, doesn't share a border with Mexico and doesn't have a massive, quasi-feral underclass. Let me know when we fit those criteria and then your beloved Portuguese Model might be workable. until then, however, the Portuguese Model will stay tucked away next to the Laffer curve in a dusty shoebox that only libertarian dorks at the Cato Institute ever open.

[Gamma Male]

MUH PORTUGAL

demographics, dude. Portugal has an ethnically homogenous population of ~10 million, doesn't share a border with Mexico and doesn't have a massive, quasi-feral underclass. Let me know when we fit those criteria and then your beloved Portuguese Model might be workable. until then, however, the Portuguese Model will stay tucked away next to the Laffer curve in a dusty shoebox that only libertarian dorks at the Cato Institute ever open.

Can you provide a casual link between any of those things and the Portugal Model not working for the US, instead of just screaming about how lazy and stupid lowerclass Americans are and ranting about illegal immigrants? Thanks.

There is absolutely no good reason why the Portugal model wouldn't work for the US. The current system sure as fuck isn't working.

[ArkaBas]

I was addicted to heroin, but now I don't use any, even alcohol and cannabis.

[lumiadots]

I used to do drugs. Everything from heroin and LSD to popping pills and smoking pot. I sucked my drug dealer's dick to get free drugs; I was so low and depressed and I was going nowhere. Going to confessional rehab helped get my life back on track and now I don't do anything anymore, except drink every once in a while. I'm so happy I stopped...it was ruining my life. I still have a bunch of health problems from my past drug abuse.

[Emma Swan]

Firstly, let me congratulate to all who got rid of this addiction :yeah: Even I don't do drugs and never will as I am very much aware of the negative consequences of it. Around two years ago, I found out with Walmart Drug Test Kit that my younger sibling is falling prey to drug addiction. With rehab supervision and family's support, he has thankfully overcome his addiction :) :) :). With this, I'd like to say that it is not impossible to quit drug addiction, all you need is proper supervision and strong determination. All the best !

[dame]

I smoke weed with my friends whenever I have the chance. I don't necessarily see it as abuse, because it's not something I fiend for. I don't feel the need to smoke alone, I only do it whenever I'm with my friends. I know I'm not addicted either, I've gone months without smoking & didn't crave a blunt once.

[Charleigh]

Try to be honest with your answers.

Why do you do drugs? If you do, and you are still doing any illegal drugs, why do you do them, list a few reasons.


I used to be a heroin addict, I used because the withdrawals werer agony, and I just couldn't stop. I've been clean for about a year now; the only reason I stopped was because I got sentenced 11 months in a youth prison, I've been out about 4 months; I've had coke, weed, pills, and mdma since I've been out; but I haven't touched anything in the last 2 months.

[nascar_alex]

I don't do drugs because I know there bad for you and if i do them now and in like 10 years and my kids have to suffer because of my choices because the effects of the drugs don't show up for years

[JimmyP]

I smoke marijuana almost daily. I love it. It's a great anti depressant and its health risks are minimal. I generally don't like pharmaceuticals; I'd rather treat my depression and insomnia with a natural remedy (though I'm also on prescription anti depressants atm). I enjoy being high and find it enhances most of my favorite activities, like playing and listening to music, skiing, hiking, reading and more.

I've also taken acid a few times. Same with mushrooms. I drink on occasion but only to a buzz (I don't like being wasted). I've taken molly once. I've also done blow once. Those are all very rare (especially blow and alcohol as I don't want to get addicted to anything and the others aren't addictive).

Before you get on your high horse and talk about how I'm destroying my brain, I'm also a 4.0 honors student.

[Daniella98]

Ive tried some. It wasnt a bad experience but I havent got the urge to try again. Ive tried and thats the end of that...

[Neverender]

I should say before I start, that I smoke a lot of cannabis myself. Sometimes upwards of 2 or 3 joints a day. I also smoke cigarettes and drink.

However, as I'm doing a Biology-Pharmacokinetics degree, I figure I'd pick the bones out of this latest statement. The statements I take issue with I'll highlight with Gold & bold. Not to take you down a notch, but to get some science-backed information and my own life experiences in here.

I smoke marijuana almost daily. I love it. It's a great anti depressant and its health risks are minimal. I generally don't like pharmaceuticals; I'd rather treat my depression and insomnia with a natural remedy (though I'm also on prescription anti depressants atm).

>I love it. I love it too, however, I have to point out that:
>It's a great anti depressant and its health risks are minimal. is a little wrong. You're not incorrect in saying it, I'm just not sure if you know why those common notions exist. It's antidepressant properties are very complex, as Cannabis is primarily Hallucinogenic (you won't get auditory or visual hallucinations, but Hallucinogenic is the best word to describe it.) Under the influence of THC, you can separate your emotions from your sense of self, and gives you a great deal of clairvoyance. Really, you can feel any emotion you want. This is when it's hallucinogenic properties really take hold, and if you're feeling happy, it can make you feel absolutely amazing. If you're feeling sad, it can plunge you into a short depression. Feeling scared? Get ready to freak out.

The reason you, and many others like you, consider Cannabis to be an antidepressant is because you've always associated it with happiness or joy. So it distracts you from a big problem. (I've got no problem with people avoiding difficult situations in this manner. Some say it's immature, I think it's effective for a short time at least.)

Health-wise, if you're smoking it, you're going to inhale the same chemicals as would be in inhaling wood smoke by a campfire or a Canadian Cigarette (Not American cigarettes as additives are legal in them.) All burning plant matter produces the same set of carcinogens. What makes people think Cannabis is so much healthier is because people don't realize that if you're only smoking 1 joint every few days, as opposed to 20 cigarettes a day, they don't make the connection between the amount of smoke inhaled from cigarettes and the lack thereof in Cannabis.

I enjoy being high and find it enhances most of my favorite activities, like playing and listening to music, skiing, hiking, reading and more.

I find that too. Worst thing about that is if you go dry, you won't get as much enjoyment out of those activities. Although that is a very minor issue easily solved by willpower

I've also taken acid a few times. Same with mushrooms. I drink on occasion but only to a buzz (I don't like being wasted). I've taken molly once. I've also done blow once. Those are all very rare (especially blow and alcohol as I don't want to get addicted to anything and the others aren't addictive). Before you get on your high horse and talk about how I'm destroying my brain, I'm also a 4.0 honors student.

>taken acid a few times. Same with mushrooms
I can't say I've done either of those (only because I couldn't get any), and you probably know your way around them. Just make sure you go into it with as healthy an attitude as you can.
>I drink on occasion but only to a buzz (I don't like being wasted).
Now, this is strange, and probably a reflection of the absurdly high drinking age in the United States. But here, we as kids were all drinking long before we took up smoking cigarettes or weed. Our parents actively bought us alcohol at 14, 15, 16, etc.
Alcohol isn't very dangerous when you know your own limits. Drinking ages like 16 in Germany, 18-19 in Canada and 21 in the US sets young men and women up to get sick when they are able to buy alcohol on their own. They never learned their own limits and they often drink too much or just get sick.

>I've taken molly once. I've also done blow once. Before you get on your high horse and talk about how I'm destroying my brain, I'm also a 4.0 honors student. I have to write large in order for anyone to pay attention to this. That you've only done cocaine once is commendable. I've tried it once too, didn't like it. HOWEVER, Molly can and will destroy the brain if taken too often (more than once a month at least) or if taken too much. And it won't make you an idiot. You could have a 100% average and still be on MDMA. But what it does do, and this is how it works, is by putting so much pressure on your neurons to release feel-good endorphins and neurotransmitters it literally burns them out. Take molly too much, and you might be the smartest person alive but you'll be absolutely miserable. You will no longer have the neurons capable of making you happy alone. You'll continuously feel gloom and doom. That's the danger of Molly.


I left out boatloads of information regarding weed, including my pleas to not do it every day or the highs will start to leave you. And it doesn't matter how long of a tolerance break you give it, you'll never get as high as you once did. That is something you should keep in mind.

Also worth Noting is that you're probably still in your teen years, the chemistry and the equilibrium of your brain is always changing. I'd implore you not to do too many drugs or too often (how often you can decide for yourself), while you're still in puberty. After puberty slows and you're getting into 17-18-19, you'll have a harder time affecting future brain chemistry than if you were 13-14-15. (Although MDMA will burn out any brain regardless of age.)

Also, addiction to alcohol usually takes months to truly manifest itself. It's a lot like tobacco. You really need to push tobacco or alcohol use for many months before you realize you're addicted. This should not be used as a scapegoat to try to get away with more, but as something to ease your mind if you've drank 2 days in a row or something like that

[JimmyP]

Yeah, blow isn't my favorite. I enjoyed it, but given the dangers associated with it, it wasn't worth it.

And I only did Molly once. It's not something I intend to do again with any kind of frequency (more than once or twice a year).

Thanks for all the information!

[Galawezh]

Well, it is really worse than a war. It kills many human beings daily, and it happens continuously, while a war has an ending....

[James Dean]

I'll just say no if I get into that situation, but I get scared sometimes. No can turn into, "Well, I'll just try it once", then disaster. I don't know, just have to watch out for yourself sometimes.

[Meh Guy]

I'm currently still smoking weed, although not as much as before. But I don't really find the use in it as much anymore. I've done a lot of drugs. You name it, I've probably tried it once. Favorite is acid. But I'm never doing it again because I got a bad trip and swore off hard stuff. So yeah.

[amgb]

Just recently started drinking, mainly because I'm really depressed and honestly can't see another way that actually makes me forget about things that I don't want to be thinking about. And also recently stopped, but I know I'll want to start again sometime in the future.

[Dennis98]

I've never done drugs, and i will never do them.

[tasminsmith]

my brother had a cannabis farm in my old nans converted attic ....

[Akatosh]

I do drugs because I like them. Weed isn't illegal here if it's for medical use, so I guess my daily smoking doesn't really count as illegal drug use. I do use quite a few other drugs. I like mushrooms, MDMA, and coke for occasional use.

I smoke weed because it lowers my anxiety and there are all sorts of strains that do all sorts of different things, so it can be a lot of fun and is very versatile. I like mushrooms because they make me feel spiritual, give me beautiful visuals, aren't at all addictive, and help expand my mind. I like MDMA because it feels fucking phenomenal, but I take 2 to 3 month breaks as a rule to avoid the neurotoxicity. I use coke when it's around, which is rarely. It's a little underwhelming and is frequently cut with nasty stuff so it's not really something I seek out.

Disclaimer: not condoning drug use. I use drugs as self-medication. It's nowhere near ideal and you guys should steer clear of substances that you aren't using 100% for you and with a clear mind.

[SethfromMI]

I never have and I have no desire to do so

[Svan]

I used to be addicted to so many different drugs, and one of the hardest things is stopping, but I did. The more painful thing to see is how it ruins you and your family and everyone you love.

[Dreamer98]

I've never done drugs, and i will never do them.

[kev99]

Never tried them, and not planning to!

[The Faulted]

i smoke weed occasionally, and cigarettes too. i drink at least every other weekend. it doesn't really conflict any of my life, so imma keep doing my thing.

[Microcosm]

I've never done drugs, but it is possible that I would do them if I was given the option. It kind of depends on the drug, though. Like if I was offered to smoke weed, I'd try it I guess just to see what it's like.

[shamrockgirl02]

The only drugs I use in any sort of regularity are cigarettes, weed, and alcohol. I use them to have fun with friends, but I try not to drink or smoke more than twice a week. Other than that, I've taken ecstasy 3 times and have no plan of doing so again.

[Let Me Be a Pony]

Only tried weed.
I guess I'd be tempted to try other types of drugs too, depending on their level of intensity.

[Avenida105]

I have tried alcohol, cigarettes, weed and molly
Why, because, not to sound arrogant, I have self control. I know how much I can take, when to take it, when to stop, etc. Literally I have been smoking pot for three years, drinking only at parties and kickbacks for about a year and a half, rolled twice and will only do it at raves. Cigarettes I disliked, didn't give me a buzz nor did it relax me or anything, plus they tasted gross, the after smell is a pain in the, yeah, to get rid off and it stays under your finger nails and you can smell in in your hands for hours.

All substances were done legally, except for rolling because well that's obviously not legal in any circumstances.

My advice don't do stuff you can't control especially if you know you don't have the willpower to stop doing something you like

[xXoblivionXx]

I haven't been to good with prescription drugs, nothing to hard core- but still...

[THJKIGB]

Unless you call drinking alcohol on occasion at a party I have never done drugs and will never do them in the future.

[mikielikesit]

Don't do drug here, seen to many friends get addicted and stuff, Not how I want to be

[ImTrickster]

I dont take any illegal ,non prescribed, drugs at all.
This is because I want to be a Police Officer in the future, illegal drugs can destroy lives and involve you in a infamous crime loop.
Firstly you get the initial hitch on the drug, then you become addicted. At this stage you are mostly likely on a class b/c drug such as marijuana. Marijuana is called a gateway drug which will bring you onto harder drugs such as class A. Most typical class As are cocaine, methamphetamines. These drugs destroy lives dramatically, it has happened in numerous cases in the past and present modern day life. In most cases the addicted person will keep funding their drug habit and not on more important sources such as food, child care, rent/mortgage/bills then most commonly the person will want to fund this habit by sources such as prostitution, shoplifting, burglary ext.
It is much easier to keep away from it, even if your friends pressure you into it then they aren't your friends so you should disassociate your life from them.
This is not by all means me telling you how to live your life, but me trying to prevent further lives being destroyed by these illegal drugs.

[tovaris]

Drugs are bad for the individual and society
Adicts should be treated in labour camps

[everlong]

I've never done drugs, but I can't guarantee what the future holds for me.

[TrillClinton]

I smoke weed on the daily, as well as drink almost every day. Whenever I have the chance to, I'll pop some Xans or some Oxys. I also love to sip on a double cup of codeine with my boys. I do pretty much every drug, and psychedelics are my favorite

[The Faulted]

For everyone who has done limited research on the benefits of psychedelics, I highly recommend the website High Existence. It's very informative and I quite enjoy reading through the articles they have.

Besides that, I see no issue with the use of drugs, as long as precautions are taken and there is a purpose. When I took LSD for my first time I did not anticipate how it would stretch out my mind in the ways that it did. Ever since I've become more opened minded and less hateful for the world.

Note that I am not encouraging the use of illegal drugs, as this won't be the same experience for everybody. I am simply suggesting that those of you who think drugs are merely self-destructive to take a deeper look and realize that these kind of things are actually quite beneficial to many people.

[jamie_n5]

I tried weed wasn't my thing I like to drink now and again however.

[Just JT]

I voted the closest option to how I feel. I've done drugs, don't really do them to much anymore. I do drink some, but not like I used to when with my dad. But that's also part of the issue so..

[Jontxu]

Never done them; and I really don't wanna try

[JohnC]

I have never done any drugs and don't really plan to. I just like the way I am and I know drugs can change that.

[Nosuba]

I'm healthy: no drinking, no smoking, no any other type of drugs.

[yeehaw]

Never done drugs and I don't plan on it either, I'm straight edge

[Reece L]

I smoke weed. The safest drug known to man. I SMOKE tons upon tons. Not one documented death on weeed.

[Reece L]

I dont take any illegal ,non prescribed, drugs at all.
This is because I want to be a Police Officer in the future, illegal drugs can destroy lives and involve you in a infamous crime loop.
Firstly you get the initial hitch on the drug, then you become addicted. At this stage you are mostly likely on a class b/c drug such as marijuana. Marijuana is called a gateway drug which will bring you onto harder drugs such as class A. Most typical class As are cocaine, methamphetamines. These drugs destroy lives dramatically, it has happened in numerous cases in the past and present modern day life. In most cases the addicted person will keep funding their drug habit and not on more important sources such as food, child care, rent/mortgage/bills then most commonly the person will want to fund this habit by sources such as prostitution, shoplifting, burglary ext.
It is much easier to keep away from it, even if your friends pressure you into it then they aren't your friends so you should disassociate your life from them.
This is not by all means me telling you how to live your life, but me trying to prevent further lives being destroyed by these illegal drugs.

Dawg, dawg, dawg.....

I smoke weed daily. My homies smoke daily. Dam my cuz smokes weed daily. And they will never touch other drugs.

There is no physical eveidence, that cannabis, is physically addictive. I went a month without weed once. Never had a single craving. And, in order to overdose on weed, it would take a super human effect. The DEA, FDA, have approved this.
Trust me dawg, I've tried to overdose. Doesn't work. Just get super high.

As for the gate way drug part. There no evidence on that. Ritalin CONTAINS speed, and it takes 3 pills to get high on it. Kids take it to get high. And that's a gate way drug. I know all about cannabis. i know about cannabis. I'm stoned now, I'll always be high. My dawg was offered 2G of coke for £20! He refused as that chits deadly.

There's no documentation on a single death from cannabis use. Nor any heart attack documentation. Yes cannabis lower blood pressure, racing the heart. But people always smoke weed. Snoop dog smokes tons. He's alive.

As for Ritalin, people who use Ritalin 80% of kids find out it CONTAINS speed, then use more n more. 7 paracetamol is all it takes to die. As it slows thenhear rate. And slows breathing! Why? Because it connects to oiopds, and respatory system. Like BOOZ does.

Please dude, stop saying shit you have NO clue about dawg.

Approximately 300m kids use Ritalin. And tobacco smoke is addictive. Study shows, and proved, tobacco is more addictive then coke and meth put together.

Edit: forgot to say weed lowers blood pressure!

Therefor, it can help people who have extreme high blood pressure, which can help lower chances of heart disease, stroke, and kidney failure. As high blood pressure, causes heart attacks, kidney Failure, heart failure, lung Failure! Lowering blood pressure, can help and prevent diseases!
There's no known death from anyone who has died from cannabis use. Study's show : "smoking cannabis increases the chances of a heart attack by 1-5 chances within the first hour. Because lowering blood pressure, and racing heart MAY cause a heart attack"

Yet, again, there's no KNOW deaths. Smoking tobacco, increases the ances of death. 0.8mg of nicotine, aka 5 cigarettes, increases the chance of death by 90%! Nicotine kills, it's addictive, and kills.

Also. People with diabetes use cannabis. Why? Here's why dawg:

Lowers blood pressure, as diabetics have high blood pressure normally.

Helps keep blood sugars in a stable line.

Helps people eat. What ever is in front of you, even if you hate it, you eat it. Somswap diabetic foods for fruit n veg.

Increases strength, and helps people exercise. The increased heart rate can help people with trying to get to the cardio range of exercise. 170-160 bpm.

Helps with pain. And helps relax the body.

Can help lower pressure to eyes, resulting in blindness.

Can help anxiety.

Never mess with a dawg who knows what's he's on about homie!

- i study, research, and ask questions. There's not 1 authenticated government, nor real site that proves cannabis can cause heart attacks, or strokes.

Also. Cannabis helps reduce epilepsy

Can stop fits. And prevent them.

It's a dam plant. As Jesus said, anything that is made by man, is made by man.
Jesus says anything made by Mother Nature, is made by the glorious Jesus Christ.
So, Jesus made cannabis, man made BOOZ, meth, cocaine, heroine, oxy, crack, etc.
So. By Christ, i say I can enjoy weed.

And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. (Gen. 1:29)

Since marijuana is indeed a seed-bearing plant we can legitimately consider whether God gave it to us for “food.” Before we do that, though, we should note how this claim undercuts the most popular form of recreational marijuana use: smoking. There are no other foods—even smoked salmon—that we consume by smoking them. So this defense can only apply to using marijuana that can be constituted as food and consumed in an edible.

Therefor, my argument is valid.

[Reece L]

The only drugs I use in any sort of regularity are cigarettes, weed, and alcohol. I use them to have fun with friends, but I try not to drink or smoke more than twice a week. Other than that, I've taken ecstasy 3 times and have no plan of doing so again.


Uh uh savage. Started weed at 13! Love it all. Don't drink, just smoke weed n fags.

[Cats123]

I started with LSD, then I tried some DMT, and then some shrooms. I tried weed twice, and it is not very fun. :(. NEVER try nutmeg, I got sick on that shit. But yeah, psychadelics are interesting. They fuck you up beyond belief while you're on them, and you usually tend to forget just how strong they really are until you try them again weeks or months later.

[david_2k]

I drink fairly heavily around twice a week mainly always Friday and Saturday after a stressful week at college.
I want to stop, not for the physical damage it's doing but more because I'm scared of getting addicted because of the reasons I use it for and because I've seen how alcohol addiction can kill in my family before but it's sort of routine by now and so many others in my friend group do it as well I'll feel so left out and just different if I don't. It wont be the same experience and I doubt I'd be able to have fun.

[Human]

I drink pretty heavily once a week at university, and since university I've been taking MDMA and smoking weed at an increased rate. I want to stop but the social pressure and the experiences it gives makes it impossible to refuse. I kind of worry about my health but I try and exercise and eat well to keep the rest of my life on track.

[Michael75]

Why do you do drugs? If you do, and you are still doing any illegal drugs, why do you do them, list a few reasons.

Yeah, I don't "do" drugs as such. I recreationally experiment with psychedelics. I mean, I've done shrooms twice, and I plan on taking a big dose in the near future to have a full experience and hopefully gain guidance from it and then stop. When I am about 25ish, I plan to take lsd and also dmt. Not for a high, but for spiritual awakening and guidance, and of course for a life experience. I will not continue to experiment with psychedelics when I'm older and have a stable job etc. I will have no problem stopping as there are no addictive chemicals in these substances. Furthermore, I am going to test my psychedelics to ensure they are pure. Of course I drink alcohol. I would say i have a social dependancy on tim for example if i'm going on a night out i'd need drink for confidence etc. But i don't have alcoholism, i drink on nights out and on family get togethers or christmas etc. I only drink in excess at nightclubs. I get pure fucked aff my tits.

[garfield221]

Ill never do it, ever

[pageninetynine]

I use weed from time to time. Last year I got into heroin, and spent most of the summer stopping, and now I'm not addicted to it anymore.

[Contraman]

Never have and don't plan on starting. My life is going great without drugs or alcohol, no need to bring stuff in that's just gonna complicate it.

[Alan T]

I've never done drugs, but heroin is a big problem around here.

[theblue]

I find drugs to be unnecessary.

[Maxbreak]

I had a bad reaction to antibiotics given to me by my doctor when I had a bad cough. Why would I want to risk taking drugs

[will2005x]

Never done it, and NEVER will

[Karalectric]

Wow 335 are good boys and girls like me. There is still time for me to be corrupted tho ;)

[breaux]

i'm not gonna do stuff like crack and pcp. but i'll still do the things that can make the day a bit more interesting, alcohol, weed, shrooms, nitrous oxide etc.. just the things that won't kill me unless i do it wrong or too much

[Pika2001]

a couple years ago, I chose "I will never do drugs" but now I smoke weed lol

[Sofiya02]

I smoke weed. Also do ecstasy, lsd, shrooms but nothing strong like cocaine.....

[Kraken]

I’ve only tried weed but I don’t think it’s drug abuse because I’m not addicted and i don’t think you can get addicted to weed like some hard drugs.

[Christoph.er]

Didnt really liked the poll options...

Why do you do drugs? If you do, and you are still doing any illegal drugs, why do you do them, list a few reasons.

I do cannabis, which is illegal here, time to time with my friends.
Why? Why do people drink? To get high :D

[HighVamp913]

This is a survey on drug abuse, just finding out the extent of drug abuse on this forum.

Try to be honest with your answers.

Why do you do drugs? If you do, and you are still doing any illegal drugs, why do you do them, list a few reasons.

If you don't do drugs, why?

Thanks very much - And please don't turn this into an argument.

It helps. It calms me. It's not illegal if it's prescribed. :P

[pale blue sky]

Never done drugs. I would only do them in the future if it was for anxiety related reasons, I have heard that sometimes weed can be used for this but idk if that's true

[Vella]

I have never taken any drugs in my life and don't intend to.