Don't take drugs!

[Shaolin]

Ok anyone that is taking drugs on this board, should stop immediatly. They damage you in the long term and you could die as a result of their use.

You should stop smoking marijuana because it causes cancer, can aggravate ashtma problems, cause cognitive problems and turn you into a zombie.

If you do drugs you will be caught by the law, because drugs are bad. I have given up drugs completly, because i found out how dangerous drugs really can be.

Will you stop drugs? Or smoking? Or anything that you rely on?

[Ravenous]

I dont rely on any drugs. I occasionally smoke cannabis but this is only like once a month. I know the risks of it to my body and the risks of getting caught with it. I wont be giving up just yet.

[Shaolin]

I dont rely on any drugs. I occasionally smoke cannabis but this is only like once a month. I know the risks of it to my body and the risks of getting caught with it. I wont be giving up just yet.

So why do you still take it, if you know it can be dangerous?

Why won't you be giving up?

[Ravenous]

Because i enjoy it alot. Its really nice to just smoke some and have a piss around with a few friends.

[nwshc]

You could enjoy a game of cards and still have funn.

[Ravenous]

I know. But getting high is better than a game of cards. Dangerous i admit but still its nice occasionally

[grass]

half of the fun is that there illeagal and as 4 bein dangerous who cares crossin the road is dangerous but i still do it everyday i reckon u shud liv life like ull die 2morow if i do drugs all the time and hav a great time doin it then die at 40 wot dus it matter id rather that than hav a borin 90 years and plus once u do drugs u know that nufin can beat it its just not the same.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Ok anyone that is taking drugs on this board, should stop immediatly. They damage you in the long term and you could die as a result of their use.

You should stop smoking marijuana because it causes cancer, can aggravate ashtma problems, cause cognitive problems and turn you into a zombie.

If you do drugs you will be caught by the law, because drugs are bad. I have given up drugs completly, because i found out how dangerous drugs really can be.

Will you stop drugs? Or smoking? Or anything that you rely on?

Wow Shaolin finally grew out of his "lets give the worst advice possible" stage? What got you to finally turn good? Maybe an administrator threatened you? ^.^

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

half of the fun is that there illeagal and as 4 bein dangerous who cares crossin the road is dangerous but i still do it everyday i reckon u shud liv life like ull die 2morow if i do drugs all the time and hav a great time doin it then die at 40 wot dus it matter id rather that than hav a borin 90 years and plus once u do drugs u know that nufin can beat it its just not the same.

its cuz people who take drugs turn into complete idiots, who abbreviate 4 letter words and dont advance in society

[kevin]

Ok anyone that is taking drugs on this board, should stop immediatly. They damage you in the long term and you could die as a result of their use.

You should stop smoking marijuana because it causes cancer, can aggravate ashtma problems, cause cognitive problems and turn you into a zombie.

If you do drugs you will be caught by the law, because drugs are bad. I have given up drugs completly, because i found out how dangerous drugs really can be.

Will you stop drugs? Or smoking? Or anything that you rely on?

weren't you the one suggesting me to try some new stuff on aim once?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i dunno he used to be the biggest proponent of legalizing all drugs ever. then all of a sudden he goes against all his beliefs. 10 bucks says someone was going to ban him for influencing people to take drugs

[Shaolin]

Cosmos your a funny guy, you can't seem to read between the lines.

Yes it is very contrasting to how i usually do things. Perhaps im trying to get a point across? That maybe the advise of "dont do drugs or i hope you die" won't get very far, seeing as people won't change regardless of what i've said (and in a much more informing manner than your one link posting...)

[Shaolin]

weren't you the one suggesting me to try some new stuff on aim once?

Err yeah, i don't particularily care about your childish conspiracys.

Care to show me some evidence of this? :roll:

[Anonymous]

YEAH! shouldve saved that chat hehe.

[Shaolin]

i dunno he used to be the biggest proponent of legalizing all drugs ever. then all of a sudden he goes against all his beliefs. 10 bucks says someone was going to ban him for influencing people to take drugs

Yes in the debate forum maybe, and that was my opinion. You brought debate into here and im going to clean it up sometime when i have a chance.

I find it funny how you critisize my advise giving, when you appear to give little yourself.

[Anonymous]

i think your advice on things that arent drugs seem a lil too, proffessional, and people are more comfortable feling like theyre talking to a friend their same age, but the drug advice is awsome!

[Shaolin]

Yeah i guess your right. I do kind of take advise too seriously and should be more considerate of peoples feelings. Online it's very hard to tell how someone is feeling and how they are going to react, so you can't really give good advise that will change someone, only a person to person contact will do that.

And thanks for supporting my advise on drugs, i've learnt it from experiance with people who do drugs, and doing them myself, as well researching it all over the net and watching television etc.

Im not a professional in anything, so never take my advise ever over that of a professional doctor.

[Anonymous]

although you probably know more than most doctors about drugs, lol

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

even though your in college and shouldnt fucking be here. and you posted twice on my 1 quote. what a waste that was. and why should i have to produce more than ONE link that is all encompassing and in all ways surpasses talktofrank and that other site u have

[Anonymous]

ok, this is the part that i run like hell so i dun get involved!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dont worry im not fighting. im leaving

[Shaolin]

It was always you aggrivating the debates.

Look, in a few hours when i have some spare time, ill split the angry debatish discussions from here which seem abit out of hand, and put them in the debate.

Don't come back unless you want to give advise, rather than argue with me or others ALL THE TIME!

[Waiting]

Personally,
i Prefer Shaolins advise to ANYONE else on any of the boards,
personally i think he gives the best advise for a simple reasons

1) Hes well informed, and wont go into something unless he knows the facts and has read the thread CAREFULLY

2) He's not gullable and very suspicious, which believe me is a good thing, as i believe he said in another thread, i personally think its better to not give attention to a fraud and encourage for him to go on in the attntion seeking behaviour

3) He's always on the right wave length to the subject, i've yet to see him give bad advise, or be totaly mistaken without realising where he was mistaken (apart from one thread)

4) I was the one in VtHQ who said that he should become a mod, because of how well he was giving advise, and Josh agreed, so he recieved a mod status

5) he's only pissed me off once...over a trivial matter...he insulted emo music...hehe, but meh thats his problem if he hates emo..meh (that was the one thread i was talking about earlier)

even though your in college and shouldnt fucking be here.

cosmos, college overhere means u can be 16/17/18, and all thos ages are acceptable...you havnt been here long and obviously dont understand the rules well

[grass]

ye cosmos u sd ppl who take drugs r idiots and dont go far in society, i presume u were directin that at me which i dont mind but 2 be honest society sucks so id rather not go that far in it

[Ravenous]

i take drugs. Yet i am inteligent. I have an IQ of around 120/130 I have predicted grades of A and B. Am i 'stupid'

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

yes. theres more than grades that determine how smart you are :/

[Whisper]

yes. theres more than grades that determine how smart you are :/

Cosmos I completly agree its more then marks, it's the ability to have an open mind to new ideas and ways of thinking to better adapt to a changing enviroment weither its economical, social, er political............And you (cosmos/Jeremy) posses none of that you are extremly close minded in many diffrent areas. Incase your to slow to keep up with this I'm calling you a dumbass!!!

[Ravenous]

Ok ok so its not just grades. But i am an inteligent person. I dont mean to sound big-headed, but its true.

[kevin]

weren't you the one suggesting me to try some new stuff on aim once?

Err yeah, i don't particularily care about your childish conspiracys.

Care to show me some evidence of this? :roll:

Well I don't know if you were drunk when you were on aim, but you would've surely remembered it. You told me to rebel, take drugs and even gave me an example. I didn't know what was going on with you because after it I had gotten in a rather large fight with you and you blocked me. Now that I have a new screen name you ignore me. So really there's not a way of apologizing is there? I'm not a child. Maybe to you I'm young, but then again what are you compared to even older people?

[Shaolin]

Well i just realised your Murphinator.

You wanted me to help you promote your forum, you belittled Josh and argued at me. I blocked you, and this was weeks ago.

However if i told you to take "drugs and rebel", im sorry, i don't remember doing it. It doesn't sound like something i'd say.

[Shaolin]

10 bucks says someone was going to ban him for influencing people to take drugs

Nope.

Show me an example of where i 'influenced' someone to take drugs.

[Whisper]

He can't cause you haven't, he's just mad that your kicking his ass......again lol

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hardly. prove to me that you havent

[Whisper]

I have a better idea prove to me he has, show me solid untampered proof and I will apolagise for arguing otherwise untill that day comes (it never will) leave Shaolin alone!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

never

[Shaolin]

Two words...

Grow up!

[nwshc]

weren't you the one suggesting me to try some new stuff on aim once?

Err yeah, i don't particularily care about your childish conspiracys.

Care to show me some evidence of this? :roll:

Well I don't know if you were drunk when you were on aim, but you would've surely remembered it. You told me to rebel, take drugs and even gave me an example. I didn't know what was going on with you because after it I had gotten in a rather large fight with you and you blocked me. Now that I have a new screen name you ignore me. So really there's not a way of apologizing is there? I'm not a child. Maybe to you I'm young, but then again what are you compared to even older people?

Yes, he is a vigilante on AIM. He said to me that is "job" on VT was to give you false info and "rip the shit" out of you. Also "I hope your fater pumbles your 4 year old anus." "I hope your mother gets cancer" And he also said he would love to rip my mothers ass in two with his big cock. Isnt that all very interesting? I have it saved on my computer if anyone would like to see the genuine convo.

[kevin]

Well i just realised your Murphinator.

You wanted me to help you promote your forum, you belittled Josh and argued at me. I blocked you, and this was weeks ago.

However if i told you to take "drugs and rebel", im sorry, i don't remember doing it. It doesn't sound like something i'd say.

You didn't know half of the story. I told josh, "stop ignoring me, you could at least give me an answer" and it came to "Kevin called me an asshole the other day". I wasn't trying to promote it, I was trying to go to somebody who has obviously had expeirience and knew what they were talking about. But no, you ignore me still.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

now watch shaolin post and say all you people are just conspiring against him. yeah right. and whats even more sad is all you losers who will believe him

[boognish]

now watch shaolin post and say all you people are just conspiring against him. yeah right. and whats even more sad is all you losers who will believe himyou three are complete idiots, you know that? your always bashing him for his belief. well cosmos your always for the us gov't right? umm...freedom of speech. he can have his opinion and you shouldnt insult and taunt him for it. that is childish. he says somthing intellegent and thought threw and you say basically "your a big poo poo head and your wrong" not an exact quote, but a good summery of your posts. now some ideas shaolin has i disagree with and thats fine. live with it and grow up. im a supporter of shaolin and let me tell you, i never intend to take drugs. i think thanks to shaolin i have made my decision to stay clean. and most other people that listen to him would feel the same way. not saying if you disagree with him you will become a pot head, but im gonna say people that listen to the facts that shaolin gives *cough* unbiased *cough* will be more likely to stay off drugs. your facts are vauge and say its bad wrong. so what is the rebel gonna do? drugs. what is the curious kid gonna do? drugs. now shaolin gives real facts, thurough info, and life experience. what will rebels do? nothing, no reason if its fine there is nothing to reble against. what will curious kids do? nothing, they know every thing now, no need to experiment

[grass]

if ur curious u will still do them, u cant be told wot drugs are like

[Shaolin]

Thankyou boognish for being rational and supporting.

I'll stand by my opinion - Talking about the effects of drugs positive or negative really isn't going to change your opinion.

I recognise that anyone takes drugs, and teenagers are especially prone to such risk taking behaviour, it's not the drugs fault, blame emotions like impulsivity, excitement and curiosity - all very natural emotions for a teenager.

As many teenagers do experiment in drugs, theres no use telling them "bad bad dont do it" because it's too late, they've done them or are planning to do them again. - Telling them both the positive and negative side will help reduce health risks.

Here's an example of something that happened because a girl didn't know what she was getting into.

Leah Betts took ecstacy on her 16th birthday, she was a normal teenager, and she and her friends had taken the drug before with no problems. This time Leah took one E tablet and it started to effect her when she was on her own. She got worried she would over heat and die, as it had been publisized that E makes you too hot, and you should drink water to battle that. She drink 6 litres in an hour, a day or so later she was in hospital, fighting for her life with severly diluted blood and brain damage.

[nwshc]

Perfect example why not to take drugs!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

yes, beautiful example that proves why drugs are shitty and bad. anyone who defends taking them should end up like that girl

[Shaolin]

No..

She died because she had read only that E is dangerous if you dont drink enough water, she DRANK TOO MUCH, it wasn't publisized that too much water can be bad for you, and thats why she made the headlines.

They didn't give all the information about E, and someone died because of it.

- What should be done to give advise on drugs?

1. Information regarding drugs, including safe methods of administering drugs, that's for obvious logical reasons. It's better to know ALL about drugs, rather than all thats bad about drugs.

2. Prevention - Giving someone the facts. Telling people not to do drugs is not PREVENTION cosmos nudge nudge. People have minds of their own and make their own decisions. You don't make them for them.

3. Treatment - Half of all teenagers are into drugs, so why not tell them the safer ways to go about doing it. Or what? Let them damage themselves when it could have been avoided.

These are just my opinions, im not even a moderator of this forum. Im a counselour, i partially mod everything, but im only here out of interest. So feel free to give your OWN advise, and stop complaining about me, if you got a problem PM me!

[Shaolin]

Perfect example why not to take drugs!

Perfect example of a normal teenager experimenting on drugs (She had done E before). She didn't know what she was doing, but she was doing it anyway.

So telling her to stop, didn't work. Telling her only half the story about E killed her.

[SpikeJ]

Ok anyone that is taking drugs on this board, should stop immediatly. They damage you in the long term and you could die as a result of their use.

You should stop smoking marijuana because it causes cancer, can aggravate ashtma problems, cause cognitive problems and turn you into a zombie.

If you do drugs you will be caught by the law, because drugs are bad. I have given up drugs completly, because i found out how dangerous drugs really can be.

Will you stop drugs? Or smoking? Or anything that you rely on?

Zombie? k? idunno where you been getting your information on canabis because everything you just said about it is wrong. Around the early 190's 30's weed was thought as the satanic drug that would ruin the youth of of America. OUOTE:From a 1930's scientific conclusion...The effects of marijuana are as followed: the user of canabis will undergo a violent uncontrolled laughter followed by horrifying hallucinations-space expands,time slows down almost still-fixed-ideas...of monstrous extravagances come next-followed by an extreme emotional disturbance that causes you to lose control of your emotions and thoughts-finally ending with a violent act like causeing harm to someone or youself-the long term effect is insanity. Anyone who has smoked any form of weed knows that none of that actually happens. Around that same time that the false information was released, scientists found that marijuana does no such thing to you and has proved to be one-hundred times safer that the ever popular tobacco. In disbelief someone stole the doccuments that had the facts on them and burned them. Never to be visible to anyone else. So long story short... parents,teachers,coaches have probly all lied to you. telling you all the false facts from the 1930's document. choose to believe what you want and choose wisely. It took our society a long time to get used to masturbation, they've told lies about that too. point is i've taken marijuna twice and i can assure that you wont become a zombie(it has no addictive additives in it), basically anything will agitate someone with asthma, it cant cause cancer(but ive heard that it has ONE cigarette additive), And you cant over dose from it (Unless you can smoke a garbage cans worth of pot in a quarter of a second). Basically eating a big-mac from mcdonalds is worse for you than weed. I took it and all it did was make me tired and hungry.

[serial-thrilla]

Ok anyone that is taking drugs on this board, should stop immediatly. They damage you in the long term and you could die as a result of their use.

You should stop smoking marijuana because it causes cancer, can aggravate ashtma problems, cause cognitive problems and turn you into a zombie.

If you do drugs you will be caught by the law, because drugs are bad. I have given up drugs completly, because i found out how dangerous drugs really can be.

Will you stop drugs? Or smoking? Or anything that you rely on?

Zombie? k? idunno where you been getting your information on canabis because everything you just said about it is wrong. Around the early 190's 30's weed was thought as the satanic drug that would ruin the youth of of America. OUOTE:From a 1930's scientific conclusion...The effects of marijuana are as followed: the user of canabis will undergo a violent uncontrolled laughter followed by horrifying hallucinations-space expands,time slows down almost still-fixed-ideas...of monstrous extravagances come next-followed by an extreme emotional disturbance that causes you to lose control of your emotions and thoughts-finally ending with a violent act like causeing harm to someone or youself-the long term effect is insanity. Anyone who has smoked any form of weed knows that none of that actually happens. Around that same time that the false information was released, scientists found that marijuana does no such thing to you and has proved to be one-hundred times safer that the ever popular tobacco. In disbelief someone stole the doccuments that had the facts on them and burned them. Never to be visible to anyone else. So long story short... parents,teachers,coaches have probly all lied to you. telling you all the false facts from the 1930's document. choose to believe what you want and choose wisely. It took our society a long time to get used to masturbation, they've told lies about that too. point is i've taken marijuna twice and i can assure that you wont become a zombie(it has no addictive additives in it), basically anything will agitate someone with asthma, it cant cause cancer(but ive heard that it has ONE cigarette additive), And you cant over dose from it (Unless you can smoke a garbage cans worth of pot in a quarter of a second). Basically eating a big-mac from mcdonalds is worse for you than weed. I took it and all it did was make me tired and hungry. how many times have you smoked it?

[Cap'nCrunch]

Fuck you.

[Octo22]

I don't plan on quitting Ecstacy, I do it about 2-3 times a month, me and my friends just have little "techno raves" in our basements with a strobe light and loud music. It's bloody fun and we all know to drink 2-3 bottles of water. So basically we're all safe and no one's addicted. It's almost hard to get addicted to the shit, I've done it 15+ times now and don't feel the need to do it again, although I will with my friends again because its bloody fun.

[Rooster]

You don't call monthly and 15 times at that an addiction?! You're in denial.

[BillyWitchDoctor.com]

you're not an adict if you've taken it alot. you're an adict if it influences the way you live your daily life and you find it hard to get by w/o it. Shaolin, you said yourself that you gave up drugs, meaning that you had tried them or were using them. I dont disagree with your veiws on drugs as they can cause lots of problems with people and ruin lives, but as for the less hardcore drugs such as marijuana, i think it's pointless to tell people they shouldnt use them if they havent tried. i know i will try it just because im not gonna deny myself the fact that i want to see what it's like. and if i like it i will use pot every once in a while. after people have tried them and they know what it's like, it's helpful for people to offer advice but if someone likes what they're doing it's gonna be hard for them to stop. now it's different for drugs like heroin or crack or those real hardcore drugs and i agree that if you are taking those you really need to find a way to stop now because those ruin lives.

[Octo22]

See it doesn't affect my life, the people I know who take it 2-3 times daily are addicts, they have no energy and don't think anymore, burn outs.

[R_master]

15 times is not an addiction. when you cant control yourself and you start spending all of your money on drugs and need them to function. i have probly smoked 6 oz. of weed in my life and in my eyes thats not much (well it isnt). I spend 60$ the most every 2-4 weeks on drugs and i have my majority of income to save up and spend on other things. Its fun to try new things :hippy:

moderation is a good thing, i dont have an addictive personality but if you do be careful.

and try not to get drugs from random people all the time, you have no idea whats in them so try and stick to buying from people you know/trust.

or dont do anything, its your life.

[kolte]

I smoke pot, I've dabbled in cocaine, and opium, Xtacy, shrooms, etc. I'm no addict. I live a normal, and relitivly clear minded life. I don't believe that, if responsibly done, drugs are harmful. Maybe to your overall health. But not to your lifestyle. Plus, what fucking business do other people have telling me whats good and bad. Fuck them.

[Elscire]

i don't take drugs because....(looks at signature)

[Shaolin]

Pfft. those government 'my anti drug' campaigns are so poor. They look so tacked on "Im a celebrity, i don't do drugs...this is my anti drug".

It's the same old reagan shit "just say no" repackaged....jeeze.

The only way to stop people doing drugs is to stop the demand not the supply. My anti drug might help abit, but if people are given strong education about how drugs can change your life for the better or worse, and eduaction on moral reasoning about taking drugs eg why should you want to change yourself or make yourself feel any different. if you do then someothing is wrong? etc...

[Φρανκομβριτ]

Marijuana is hardly harmful. I do not see why people are so worked up about it. I've experimented with other things, but I stick to weed. It's not that bad. Give it a try

[wadeexpo]

ok
everyone who has done drugs are officially dumbasses
im out

[Ravenous]

ok
everyone who has done drugs are officially dumbasses
im out
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D
Funniest thing I've read in weeks :lol:
YOU are the official dumbass and you proved it by saying that. Why does using drugs automatically make a person a 'dumbass' ? I really would like to know :yes:
Seriously, do you know anything about drugs at all?

[Bobby]

ok
everyone who has done drugs are officially dumbasses
im out oo really?????? :scratchchin:

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D
Funniest thing I've read in weeks :lol:
YOU are the official dumbass and you proved it by saying that. Why does using drugs automatically make a person a 'dumbass' ? I really would like to know :yes:
Seriously, do you know anything about drugs at all?

hmmm.....Tim said exactly what I was thinking!!

[BillyWitchDoctor.com]

seriously, if u say YOURE A DUMBASS IF U DO DRUGS! then u dont know what ur talking about, you cant put ur ideas together well and u just want to sound like u know ur shit. smoking weed does not mean ur a burnt out junkie who will not advance in society. getting high doesnt get u addicted, marijuana isnt even addictive, its just that some people cant put it down because they like it so much. you can still do perfectly well in school if u get high every once in a while, and it really isnt terrible for your health. There is research now saying that marijuana does not lead to lung cancer, it doesnt limit your ability to have an erection like your health teachers want you to think and as some said already its fun to get out and fuck around with ur friends, and alot of the fun is that it is illegal, that may sound corny but you cant deny that for things like that which are illegal u dont get a little buzzed and excited

[0=]

Marijuana is actually healthy in small amounts, although, when smoked, like anything else, has adverse health effects over time, but luckily, you can make space cake and special brownies! :D The hemp plant is also useful for making clothing, rope, handbags, and paper, and it grows quickly and anywhere, so is a great alternative to tree paper because it is a renewable resource.

If you do drugs you will be caught by the law, because drugs are bad.

To quote Mr.Mackey from South Park, "Drugs are bad, mmkay? You shouldn't do drugs, cuz drugs are bad, mmkay? like they make you stupid, mmkay? So don't do drugs, cuz drugs are bad, mmkay?"

Hmm, do you have anything to back anything in your initial post?

[Ravenous]

Ok anyone that is taking drugs on this board, should stop immediatly. They damage you in the long term and you could die as a result of their use.
I could die doing anything, cannabis really isn't that harmfull..

You should stop smoking marijuana because it causes cancer, can aggravate ashtma problems, cause cognitive problems and turn you into a zombie.
Cannabis does not cause cancer, if you smoke tobacco with your cannabis, then yes perhaps the cancer risk is slightly increased. Cannabis by itself does not cause cancer. I don't have asthma, and my friend who does and smokes cannabis is fine and I sure hope that 'zombie' remark was some unfunny joke.

If you do drugs you will be caught by the law, because drugs are bad. I have given up drugs completly, because i found out how dangerous drugs really can be.
Bullshit, millions of people use drugs and not all of them get caught! 'drugs are bad' oh dear, you sound like one of these government sponsered campaigns haha. Drugs if used safely, have minimal danger risk.

I know your not around, just thought I should pick apart this arguement.

[BillyWitchDoctor.com]

yea, cannibis by itself doesnt cause cancer. and if ur gonna say drugs are bad, dont do them at least say why and dont say stuff like what all those health teachers and people that come to ur school say that they hurt ur lungs. of course if ur bringing smoke into ur lungs they will be slightly damaged but not if u arent smoking like 10grams a day

[serial-thrilla]

dont even argue if cannibas causes cancer, scientists at UCLA have proven that it doesent.