Never, EVER do shrooms. simple as that.

[Painted_Indian_Horse]

This thread is for the people who think shrooms might be a good idea. here's why it's not:
I went to see my cousin, and she was on shrooms for the first time. She was having a great time, and I just sat around and smoked pot and hooka with our friends and watched her make a fool of herself. The next day, we went on hunt for someone to buy some from, and we found it. We went to a dealer who had a supplier with 'hypodermic' shrooms. Hypodermic means they are artificially grown, not just picked from a field. It makes them more concentrated.
So we got the shrooms, and me and my cousin took them. We went to the park, where we had been the day before. But it was about to rain so we left and went to my cousin's house to get a movie. But her mom was home, and we had to talk to her, and she caught us. She didn't do anything, but she was pissed, and this was just as we were starting to trip. But we took the movie to our friend's house.
I ended up having to leave BY MYSELF and go home. By that time, it was a garenteed bad trip. So I went home and tried to watch some TV. Every little negative detail sent me into a panic fest.
A bad trip will be the worst experience of your life, for those of you who haven't had one. My body felt like it was on fire, I was sweating profusely, I wasn't coherent, and my heart was about to beat right out of my chest. In a nutshell, it was an anxiety attack from HELL.
It went like this nonstop for 6 hours.
This was a month ago, and my anxiety(which was pre-existing) is worse, and more constant. I am still feeling the effects.

So for anyone thinking of trying a trippy drug, this is what COULD happen. And a lot of people just think they can find a chill place and be fine, but you don't know what could happen. We thought we were fine.

[ackmedsgirl666]

i know what doing shrooms is like
been there done that and never again will i do that shit

[Maverick]

Welcome to VT. Just remember from our rules that its ok to share drug abuse experiences but we do not allow promotion of drugs. I had to edit out the last line of your post. Be conscious of our anti-promotion rule when making posts in this forum. Thanks.

[Rutherford The Brave]

I've taken shrooms before, I enjoyed it. I didn't get in trouble mainly because I was at a musical fest. I do not see what the big deal is, you kind of got yourself in trouble. Going to your cousins house.

[Painted_Indian_Horse]

true, we didn't plan on going there, but it still happened

[Sordid Saint]

There are many warnings on the internet and in books and so on about Shrooms and doing them. You need to know when you are ready to do them. If you aren't in a good mental state at the time that you do them, it won't be a good experience.

I've done them a lot before, and I've only had a few bad trips. They were bad at the time, but thinking back at them, it's kind of cool what happened.

And it's not what most people think it would be like. A trip isn't always hallucinations. Sometimes, you just feel a really strong body high, and everything has a meaning to it (to me). And the hallucinations aren't always major either.

What shrooms do is amplify your emotions as well, so if you're happy, you'll be happy as a mofo :P, but if you're sad you'll be completely depressed and so on.

[Fiending_the_freedom]

There are many warnings on the internet and in books and so on about Shrooms and doing them. You need to know when you are ready to do them. If you aren't in a good mental state at the time that you do them, it won't be a good experience.

I've done them a lot before, and I've only had a few bad trips. They were bad at the time, but thinking back at them, it's kind of cool what happened.

And it's not what most people think it would be like. A trip isn't always hallucinations. Sometimes, you just feel a really strong body high, and everything has a meaning to it (to me). And the hallucinations aren't always major either.

What shrooms do is amplify your emotions as well, so if you're happy, you'll be happy as a mofo :P, but if you're sad you'll be completely depressed and so on.


Exactly what I was going to say.
You really need to know what your getting yourself into, if your going to do hallucinogenics , there is a proper way to do them.
Bad trips happen, but its YOUR mind creating them.

[danielf123]

if you take hallucinogens like Shrooms or Acid, you gotta understand that you need to plan it out, like, plan out a day to do them where you know you wont have the chance to be caught. there not like weed, its not a background drug you can do and go about your day normally unless your very experienced with them. Just because you have 1 bad trip doesnt mean you have to bash them. Lots of people have very good and positive trips, you just went into a bad trip because of the unexpected circumstances.

[wtblife]

Main thing is don't do high doses imo because even if you have a bad trip on a low dose you will turn out fine, bad trips at high doses can turn out bad beyond belief and can be near impossible to completely get over.

I had one of those trips and it led me to be unable to care about anything for a long time as I had already experienced the worst things possible during the trip. I was completely taken out of reality and believed I was locked up somewhere and tons of people died and all sorts of crap, I can't even begin to describe it, but it was the only time I've ever had a panic attack. It took me months to become somewhat stable again and probably had a big factor in me becoming an addict and dropping out of school my senior year. Just 6 or so months earlier I was mostly antidrug and hadn't touched anything, shit happens fast.

[danielf123]

Main thing is don't do high doses imo because even if you have a bad trip on a low dose you will turn out fine, bad trips at high doses can turn out bad beyond belief and can be near impossible to completely get over.

I had one of those trips and it led me to be unable to care about anything for a long time as I had already experienced the worst things possible during the trip. I was completely taken out of reality and believed I was locked up somewhere and tons of people died and all sorts of crap, I can't even begin to describe it, but it was the only time I've ever had a panic attack. It took me months to become somewhat stable again and probably had a big factor in me becoming an addict and dropping out of school my senior year. Just 6 or so months earlier I was mostly antidrug and hadn't touched anything, shit happens fast.

just a random commment
its funny how in high doses your more prone to a bad trip because things are more intense but its a bit ironic how people say that in a high enough dose of LSD or Mushrooms, you cant expreince a bad trip because your ego is so destroyed, you dont even know what a bad trip is.

doses like that are attributed to things like Thumbprints of LSD, which are are something like 10mg-100mg doses
LSD is usually adminestered on blotter paper in something like 40ug-100ug (ug = microgram)
Thumbprints are hits of pure LSD crystals stuck to the thumb and licked up, most people say that its pretty much impossible to have a bad thumprint tirip

[wtblife]

just a random commment
its funny how in high doses your more prone to a bad trip because things are more intense but its a bit ironic how people say that in a high enough dose of LSD or Mushrooms, you cant expreince a bad trip because your ego is so destroyed, you dont even know what a bad trip is.

doses like that are attributed to things like Thumbprints of LSD, which are are something like 10mg-100mg doses
LSD is usually adminestered on blotter paper in something like 40ug-100ug (ug = microgram)
Thumbprints are hits of pure LSD crystals stuck to the thumb and licked up, most people say that its pretty much impossible to have a bad thumprint tirip

I've actually never heard anyone say ego death makes a bad trip impossible and it doesn't really mean anything cause the bad part would probably be before the ego death. Usually your ego is torn apart throughout the trip until you're left being one with the world, it doesn't just happen off the bat with most psychedelics and high doses don't really guarantee it. If it isn't a bad trip you might just sort of gradually lose your existence and it could happen faster if you're able to let go calmly, but it really depends on the person. Also coming back to reality after ego death can be very harsh because you had accepted that you didn't exist anymore, but again depending on the person the whole experience could just be refreshing and bring about a new lease on life. Not being able to let go on certain psychedelics/doses will usually lead to a bad trip or make it just a more difficult trip in general, you have to be prepared or you'll find yourself fighting a losing battle.

Most people will agree that acid is less prone to bad trips although the duration is pretty insane compared to shrooms. High doses of acid can last for up to 20 or so hours, but the effects are greatly lessened by that point and it shouldn't really be animated or all that trippy. Shroom trips are often more mentally challenging as well.

I've also never heard of a thumbprint tbh, but that is probably because I've never met or heard of anyone that has access to plain LSD to dose like that or even wants to eyeball the dose like that; it just sounds like a bad idea unless I'm misunderstanding what they're doing. You should never eyeball doses, that's incredibly unsafe practice. I will agree however that the dose stated can't really result in a bad trip, it is just too small. Most people I know of take multiple hits of acid because the average hit nowadays isn't that potent (100ug most likely wouldn't take you far).

Just a little tidbit about how it affects people differently:

My older brother didn't realize how long the effects of acid can last and he found his only trip very frightening because of that (ended up telling our parents and skipped school to recover). He had taken a bit less than my first trip which was on 4 hits and it lasted way too long for my tastes, but I didn't find it frightening at all. Managed to sleep at the 20 hour mark even though these letters that had been kind of imprinted on my vision had still not gone away.

Mods, hopefully all this is okay? I never mean to promote drug use so hopefully nothing I say comes off that way. I'll gladly edit whatever need be, my intentions are purely harm reduction.

[danielf123]

I've actually never heard anyone say ego death makes a bad trip impossible and it doesn't really mean anything cause the bad part would probably be before the ego death. Usually your ego is torn apart throughout the trip until you're left being one with the world, it doesn't just happen off the bat with most psychedelics and high doses don't really guarantee it. If it isn't a bad trip you might just sort of gradually lose your existence and it could happen faster if you're able to let go calmly, but it really depends on the person. Also coming back to reality after ego death can be very harsh because you had accepted that you didn't exist anymore, but again depending on the person the whole experience could just be refreshing and bring about a new lease on life. Not being able to let go on certain psychedelics/doses will usually lead to a bad trip or make it just a more difficult trip in general, you have to be prepared or you'll find yourself fighting a losing battle.

Most people will agree that acid is less prone to bad trips although the duration is pretty insane compared to shrooms. High doses of acid can last for up to 20 or so hours, but the effects are greatly lessened by that point and it shouldn't really be animated or all that trippy. Shroom trips are often more mentally challenging as well.

I've also never heard of a thumbprint tbh, but that is probably because I've never met or heard of anyone that has access to plain LSD to dose like that or even wants to eyeball the dose like that; it just sounds like a bad idea unless I'm misunderstanding what they're doing. You should never eyeball doses, that's incredibly unsafe practice. I will agree however that the dose stated can't really result in a bad trip, it is just too small. Most people I know of take multiple hits of acid because the average hit nowadays isn't that potent (100ug most likely wouldn't take you far).

Just a little tidbit about how it affects people differently:

My older brother didn't realize how long the effects of acid can last and he found his only trip very frightening because of that (ended up telling our parents and skipped school to recover). He had taken a bit less than my first trip which was on 4 hits and it lasted way too long for my tastes, but I didn't find it frightening at all. Managed to sleep at the 20 hour mark even though these letters that had been kind of imprinted on my vision had still not gone away.

Mods, hopefully all this is okay? I never mean to promote drug use so hopefully nothing I say comes off that way. I'll gladly edit whatever need be, my intentions are purely harm reduction.

Well thumprints are an initiation into an organization known as The Rainbow Family, there require 2 things for you too join
1. You must be able to lay crystal to blotter properly on your own
2. do a thumprint

they dont eyeball doses, they lay crystals out on a table or something and press their thumb down and whatever sticks, sticks. Thats there dose.
when i say ego death, i mean more like Ego Anahaliation.
Thumbprint level doses is like eating multiple sheets at once
supposably the experience is so intense, you loose contact with reality for the trip. Your in your own little world and first timers can usually do nothing more then lay down and trip for 36+ hours
a sitter is needed during and after the trip because it supposed to take like an entire week before you can care for yourself again

eventually with experience, people have been able to take small amounts of crystals like 10-20mg and walk around and be fine

and 20hrs definatly, had a 20 hour trip of 1 tab, that acid was waaaaaaayyyyy to strong hahaand i know it wasnt anything else because DOx chemicals take multiple hours to work, the tab took 30min to work. Sent me into a Level 4 trip off one hit

[wtblife]

Well that is kind of eyeballing although not with your eyes, I was just using the term to mean sorta estimating a dose. Unless they only have 100ug on the table they are doing just that. I'm mainly just saying it is a bad habit for most drugs and most people, they gotta be able to handle their liquor so to speak and it isn't something I would promote. People do this same kind of behavior with research chemicals and end up in the hospital.

when i say ego death, i mean more like Ego Anahaliation.

Well having your ego annihilated would leave you at the point of ego death lol. Most psychedelics imo won't destroy your ego off the bat, eventually you come to the conclusion that you're one with the world. DMT is one of the few psychedelics that will instantly rip it from you (when smoked), it's impossible to describe just how intense it is, but the world literally tears apart and you're taken to a new land. Although most people underestimate Salvia (due to ignorance and people not really experiencing what Salvia is), it also has the potential for a similar kind of effect imo (not to say the two drugs are really anything alike). A strong Salvia trip is often far more difficult to deal with than a DMT trip although around 1/3 the duration.

[Painted_Indian_Horse]

i didn't read all the other comments on this post, but damn i didn't know this many people replied! and i had 20 dollars worth of hypodermic mushrooms, so i was pretty fucked. i'm still getting over that day...

[Rutherford The Brave]

Tsk Tsk young lady.

[wtblife]

and i had 20 dollars worth of hypodermic mushrooms, so i was pretty fucked. i'm still getting over that day...

Not to belittle your experience, but based on that price it was most likely the standard dose for people with some experience tripping. Most forums frown upon people discussing doses so I'm trying to avoid doing that.

Also there shouldn't be much of a difference in potency between shrooms grown inside or outside. The ones outdoors tend to be beefier, but that doesn't really affect the concentration. Most dealers actually grow the shrooms indoors or buy from someone that does because picking from outdoors often don't have enough yield.

[danielf123]

Not to belittle your experience, but based on that price it was most likely the standard dose for people with some experience tripping. Most forums frown upon people discussing doses so I'm trying to avoid doing that.

Also there shouldn't be much of a difference in potency between shrooms grown inside or outside. The ones outdoors tend to be beefier, but that doesn't really affect the concentration. Most dealers actually grow the shrooms indoors or buy from someone that does because picking from outdoors often don't have enough yield.

that and growing yourself or buying from a grower also eliminates the harm of mistakingly picking the wrong mushrooms.
If you grow or buy from the grower, you know what your getting, say like, there growing the common Cubenis mushrooms, You know when you buy them that there Psilocybe Cubenis, your not at odds wondering if you should eat em or not, you know what they are

[Dorsum Oppel]

As with any herbs or fungi, don't gather wildly unless you know what you're doing. Before I ingest or inhale anything that I've picked growing in the woodland around me, I make sure that it's properly identified. The difference between consuming a beneficial mushroom and a fatal one could be something as small as the color of the spores, or the formation of gills, or any number of thing someone not experienced in wild-crafting wouldn't know of. I personally prefer to gather wild because it's free, but I know what I'm doing.

As for your bad trip, that was all you. It also wasn't the fungi's fault you were caught, it was yours. Shame really.

[Sordid Saint]

As with any herbs or fungi, don't gather wildly unless you know what you're doing. Before I ingest or inhale anything that I've picked growing in the woodland around me, I make sure that it's properly identified. The difference between consuming a beneficial mushroom and a fatal one could be something as small as the color of the spores, or the formation of gills, or any number of thing someone not experienced in wild-crafting wouldn't know of. I personally prefer to gather wild because it's free, but I know what I'm doing.

As for your bad trip, that was all you. It also wasn't the fungi's fault you were caught, it was yours. Shame really.

Yeah there's lots of people who think they know what they're doing but they don't even know what a spore print is. It's a really bad idea to do anything you find without knowing EXACTLY what it is. Even if you buy them from someone, I would suggest to identify it because sometimes people do pick them from the wild and sell them, especially in the north.

[wtblife]

I just realized some people might have misunderstood what I meant by DMT being similar to Salvia, I was only talking about how both cause pretty much instantaneous effects and how intense both can be with your world being completely warped. DMT and Salvia don't have very much in common besides the way their effects come on (I mean one warps your world and the other takes you to the land of the elves, doesn't get any more different!).

I also realized that I probably exaggerated the shortness of a Salvia trip although I was only talking bout the peak part really. It can last up to 10 or so minutes, but generally only a couple I'd say.

Just trying not to spread misinformation... I'm starting to wonder if the information I'm trying to provide is helping or hurting, I definitely shouldn't have mentioned other drugs to compare to as that just gives people ideas. Ignorance is good in some cases, idk I really gotta get off these forums

[staying_alive]

Thought i'd share my experience on shrooms as it was a mostly good one.

My friend and I planned on doing them for the entire summer and just got around to doing it at the end. IMO they are way overpriced for what they are, but maybe some will disagree.

They were already cut up when we got them so i'm not sure exactly how much I took. Anyway, we took them and washed it down with some orange soda and waited. Nothing really happened and I was kind of disappointed. I tried watching spongebob (colorful cartoon) and wasn't satisfied with the level of trippiness that was happening. Then I thought of a great idea: smoke some weed to calm myself down and maybe that'll help.

I called up another friend, picked him up and drove out to a field. We smoked a couple bowls, and I was set. I cranked up the music in the car (I wasn't able to drive anywhere in that state and didn't want to anyway), and I laid on the roof with two friends and watched the clouds...for three hours. I had a bag of mini-M&Ms and the aforementioned orange soda and literally watched cartoon characters and tons of other random shit happen in the clouds for the entire afternoon.

Some random things happened as well. I had the M&Ms on my lap and for a while i felt like they were burning a hole through me. I then remember holding a pillow and asking my friends (the cartoon characters in the clouds) to help me from the M&Ms. Oh and I got paranoid about all the sugar I was consuming and thought my teeth were rotting out of my mouth. All in all it was a good experience but these few things did make it a little rough.

[please do not promote illegal drug usage.~Goose]Find an awesome spot where no one will stress you out for hours and just chill. Finally, clouds are AMAZING on them. A sunny day and some sunglasses will make your trip absolutely insane.

OP, sorry about your bad trip.

[Painted_Indian_Horse]

that sounds so badass. i did smoke a bowl as i was starting to trip, and that gets the ball rolling, i gotta tell you. :P

[wtblife]

I just realized I misread the 10mg-100mg doses as 10ug-100ug doses...

I was confused at first wondering how you could take such a small dose by just thumbprinting if you didn't only have that small amount out, now I understand that you were just talking about ridiculous doses where it doesn't matter if you eyeball it or not cause you're fucked either way. Makes more sense considering you were talking bout crystals, dunno why that didn't click the first time. I apparently also missed the comment bout multiple sheets of acid, anyway now I understand and...

That's just plain silly, you might as well be taking poison and tripping off the side effects because at that dose LSD is toxic in so many ways and you've stopped caring about your well being. It isn't as simple as just a ridiculously strong trip, there are other effects on your body that would be extremely damaging in many ways on a dose that high. Anyone that tries one is a complete retard, nothing more.

A mg or even maybe a few mg is still kind of realistic, but I can't fathom much more without really bad side effects and going on the higher end of what was stated for a thumbprint would probably be lethal for most. I guarantee most people are just bsing you and there are a lot less people that have done this than you think. Yes acid is relatively harmless in regular doses or even pretty damn high doses, but that doesn't mean it is completely harmless and you can just dose whatever the hell you want.

[willrod]

Hallucinogens are pretty nasty, to say the least. There was this kid that went to school in the next town over that ended up taking a bunch of shrooms and got killed when he started tripping and wandered out onto the train tracks just as a train was coming. Anything that messes with you mind that much, no matter how "good" it seems, has unintended consequences. Just a word of caution.

[wtblife]

I don't know of anyone that ended up getting themselves killed, but I do know a bunch of people that lost all their stuff (wallets, shoes, etc.) while tripping. I also know someone who rode on top of a train while on a quarter of shrooms, I'm surprised he ended up okay considering how much he was on. I've only done a dose like that once and I was on the floor unable to even see reality most of the time, I can't imagine actually going anywhere like that.

[Strength]

to do a drug like that you need a good setting. dont blame the shrooms for you being caught.

[mranderson]

ive mixed weed and shrroms and it was prob the best trip ever