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the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 09:58 PM
Fuck all the damn philosophies about "things getting better" and silly inspirational stories meant to encourage individuals to move foward in their way of life. I've HAD IT- I'm fucking dying sometime in the near future. Just felt like sharing that in case you wonder where the fuck I went (not that anybody would XD)

Rutherford The Brave
August 22nd, 2010, 10:25 PM
Fine kill yourself. Take away the only thing you shouldn't take for granted. Just give up, and accept the fact that people are going to see you as the kid that quit. The kid that couldn't realize that shit happens. Shit happens for real, take it in stride. Or be a quitter choice is yours big guy.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 10:32 PM
Fine kill yourself. Take away the only thing you shouldn't take for granted. Just give up, and accept the fact that people are going to see you as the kid that quit. The kid that couldn't realize that shit happens. Shit happens for real, take it in stride. Or be a quitter choice is yours big guy.

Maybe I will. There is a bigger picture for my suicide rather than just "the kid who quit", not that I am going to tell just anybody.

DarkHorses
August 22nd, 2010, 10:33 PM
Things don't get better on their own. Have you made steps to try to improve your life and to stop feeling less depressed? For instance, have you talked to any adults, like your parents, about the depression you're dealing with? Have you reached out to the people around you for support? Have you thought about seeking professional help? Have you asked your parents to get you help?

There's such a thing as truly having no options, and there's such a thing as not using the options that you do have. You're perfectly capable of changing your life and working through this. Whether or not you choose to believe that is up to you. But if you sit there waiting to be happy again and not putting forth any work to reach that goal, then you're right, things will never get better.

Don't give up until there's absolutely no hope left. And from what I've learned, there's always hope.

Rutherford The Brave
August 22nd, 2010, 10:38 PM
Maybe I will. There is a bigger picture for my suicide rather than just "the kid who quit", not that I am going to tell just anybody.

Believe me if you want to go out, no one will give two shits. It's suicide, you want to take everything away and make it sooo much better. So be it, but no one is going to care. You're going to be gone and they are going to forget about you. All that attention you want for death wont come and people will see you as the kid who bypassed peoples feelings and quit. That's how I see that group of people.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 10:39 PM
Things don't get better on their own. Have you made steps to try to improve your life and to stop feeling less depressed? For instance, have you talked to any adults, like your parents, about the depression you're dealing with? Have you reached out to the people around you for support? Have you thought about seeking professional help? Have you asked your parents to get you help?

There's such a thing as truly having no options, and there's such a thing as not using the options that you do have. You're perfectly capable of changing your life and working through this. Whether or not you choose to believe that is up to you. But if you sit there waiting to be happy again and not putting forth any work to reach that goal, then you're right, things will never get better.

Don't give up until there's absolutely no hope left. And from what I've learned, there's always hope.

Hope shmope. I've tried all of your reccomendations before, they don't do a god-damned thing. It is only philosophy and the kind of crap that teachers talk to you about. My mom goes ape-shit when I try to talk to her, and if mom doesn't care than who the hell is?

DarkHorses
August 22nd, 2010, 10:44 PM
Hope shmope. I've tried all of your reccomendations before, they don't do a god-damned thing. It is only philosophy and the kind of crap that teachers talk to you about. My mom goes ape-shit when I try to talk to her, and if mom doesn't care than who the hell is?

I have been where you are before, I would sit in my room contemplating killing myself. I posted on forums asking for advice, not knowing what to do. The first time I talked to a psychologist about how I felt she dismissed it and said nothing was wrong with it. I got progressively worse and finally insisted on going back to see the psychologist, and then I was diagnosed with depression. You create your own hope. If you're not heard the first time, you keep talking. You need to have determination, because that's what's going to get you through life. Right now depression wants you to believe that you are hopeless, that there's no way to get through this. But if you were truly in a rational state of mine and depression wasn't affecting you, you wouldn't be thinking this way.

Take it from me, I've been there. Things can get better. I wouldn't tell you that unless I knew it was true. Life tries really hard to get you down, but you need to keep fighting through everything. Eventually it becomes worth it. Even if it seems like no one cares, the most important thing is that you care about yourself. If you truly care about yourself, you'll do anything it takes to feel better and to get past this.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 10:46 PM
I have been where you are before, I would sit in my room contemplating killing myself. I posted on forums asking for advice, not knowing what to do. The first time I talked to a psychologist about how I felt she dismissed it and said nothing was wrong with it. I got progressively worse and finally insisted on going back to see the psychologist, and then I was diagnosed with depression. You create your own hope. If you're not heard the first time, you keep talking. You need to have determination, because that's what's going to get you through life. Right now depression wants you to believe that you are hopeless, that there's no way to get through this. But if you were truly in a rational state of mine and depression wasn't affecting you, you wouldn't be thinking this way.

Take it from me, I've been there. Things can get better. I wouldn't tell you that unless I knew it was true. Life tries really hard to get you down, but you need to keep fighting through everything. Eventually it becomes worth it. Even if it seems like no one cares, the most important thing is that you care about yourself. If you truly care about yourself, you'll do anything it takes to feel better and to get past this.

Thank you, but nothing WILL improve. I am one that is never heard, always in the minroity and always will be. I've been trying for 7 years (yes, I've been like this since I was a 7 or 8 year old) and NOTHING happened- zip, nada. 7 years is a long time, so there's already reason to start losing hope.

I.J.
August 22nd, 2010, 10:49 PM
I understand you SO much, why do we need to live if our lives suck? But what keeps me from crossing the line, is all the good things in life, and my dreams. My family, my good friends, and my huge dreams keep me from doing it.

Even though your family might have problems or might seem to not like you or your not with someone you care about, deep down, they love you, trust me they do. They'd be sad if you died.

You might have fights with friends or not have a lot of friends, but friends are friends, someone to hang out with and talk to, and you can always make friends, but it may take some changing in your lifestyle to befriend people. There are people who can relate to you and share the same interests, and trust me, these people are awesome, they always make you feel better. You might've not found them yet, but you will.

If you have a dream in life, you should go for it. Even though something may happen that makes you think "I'm never gonna get there", you have a place you belong in the world, and once you get there, you will fucking enjoy it. Believe me.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 10:51 PM
I understand you SO much, why do we need to live if our lives suck? But what keeps me from crossing the line, is all the good things in life, and my dreams. My family, my good friends, and my huge dreams keep me from doing it.

Even though your family might have problems or might seem to not like you or your not with someone you care about, deep down, they love you, trust me they do. They'd be sad if you died.

You might have fights with friends or not have a lot of friends, but friends are friends, someone to hang out with and talk to, and you can always make friends, but it may take some changing in your lifestyle to befriend people.

If you have a dream in life, you should go for it. Even though something may happen that makes you think "I'm never gonna get there.", you have a place you belong in the world, and once you get there, you will fucking enjoy it. Believe me.

Thanks, but I have no goals or intentions. As far as I know, I should have been aborted as a baby right from the start.

I.J.
August 22nd, 2010, 11:03 PM
Thanks, but I have no goals or intentions. As far as I know, I should have been aborted as a baby right from the start.

Are you sure? There's nothing you look forward to in life? Nothing you've wanted to do? Everyone lives to DO SOMETHING. That's what life is. There's a place you belong in this world. Right now it may not seem like it, or you may not have found it yet, but, you've only lived for 14 years, you have MANY MANY MANY more years to live. And once you are there, you will LOVE it. You have to be determined, it might not be hard getting there, but it's like a test maybe. You might not be happy right now, but, killing yourself would be the worst thing you could do, then you will never find that happiness. You just have to believe that you will find it, and it will pay off.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 11:05 PM
Are you sure? There's nothing you look forward to in life? Nothing you've wanted to do? Everyone lives to DO SOMETHING. That's what life is. There's a place you belong in this world. Right now it may not seem like it, or you may not have found it yet, but, you've only lived for 14 years, you have MANY MANY MANY more years to live. And once you are there, you will LOVE it. You have to be determined, it might not be hard getting there, but it's like a test maybe. You might not be happy right now, but, killing yourself would be the worst thing you could do, then you will never find that happiness. You just have to believe that you will find it, and it will pay off.

There is...NOTHING I look forward to and I gurantee that I will never find it. nothing ever makes me happy, nor will anything ever.

enjoying_my_insanity
August 22nd, 2010, 11:11 PM
My mom goes ape-shit when I try to talk to her, and if mom doesn't care than who the hell is?

she just doesnt understand how you are feeling and did you ever think that we care? cuz i care if you die and things do get better i know you dont think they do but they will but you have to make them get better! talk to a psychologist or a psychiatrist and realize that there is someone who cares about you...and if you are religious think of this God has a plan for you and suicide is not in it...and you will be in my prayers...plz dont do it :hug:

I.J.
August 22nd, 2010, 11:11 PM
There is...NOTHING I look forward to and I gurantee that I will never find it. nothing ever makes me happy, nor will anything ever.

Well fine then. Are you gonna kill yourself? Suit yourself. Never be happy.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 11:13 PM
Well fine then. Are you gonna kill yourself? Suit yourself. Never be happy.

I wouldn't ever be happy in this mortal coil, so it is just a matter of deciding wethether to stay alive in physcial form or detach from physical form.

See? This is the one instance in which there is NO hope for somebody. Perfect example for you guys, to show that help can only go so far before its done with.

This is powerful proof for you all- a death CAN affect no entity in the world, and can pass just as quietly as a dust mite rolling across a floor.

I.J.
August 22nd, 2010, 11:28 PM
You think that. But if you die, you will never know. There is always hope.

But are you even gonna think of suicide? It sounds like your trying to make us believe there is no hope. These forums are for HELP. You're just mad because everything is going so well for you. If you were planning to kill yourself then do it. Don't fuckin tell people. We care if you feel sad and need some guidance, but we could careless about some crybaby who thinks they need to kill themselves if they're not happy.

I can't help you anymore, because obviously you too stubborn to trust or believe anybody. You're probably not gonna even go through with it anyways. You're just here to whine.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 11:29 PM
You think that. But if you die, you will never know. There is always hope.

But are you even gonna think of suicide? It sounds like your trying to make us believe there is no hope. These forums are for HELP. You're just mad because everything is going so well for you. If you were planning to kill yourself then do it. Don't fuckin tell people. We care if you feel sad and need some guidance, but we could careless about some crybaby who thinks they need to kill themselves if they're not happy.

I can't help you anymore, because obviously you too stubborn to trust or believe anybody. You're probably not gonna even go through with it anyways. You're just here to whine.

Whatever you say. I am trying to get help, just not the simple kind. I need something deeper, something for somebody who has tried every last resort possible.

Ender
August 22nd, 2010, 11:32 PM
Why so closed minded? Your not even considering the adcice here.

Being this negative, i highly doubt you are taking any steps to improve.

Look to your future man, become something big, make all the losers feel bad for not believing in you or supporting you. Be the big man... Not the coward who makes the stupid choice of killing himself.

I.J.
August 22nd, 2010, 11:33 PM
Whatever you say. I am trying to get help, just not the simple kind. I need something deeper, something for somebody who has tried every last resort possible.

Well this IS A DAMN FORUM FOR GOD'S SAKE! If you help that's "something deeper, something for somebody who has tried every last resort possible", then fucking get help IN REAL LIFE.

Ender
August 22nd, 2010, 11:35 PM
Whatever you say. I am trying to get help, just not the simple kind. I need something deeper, something for somebody who has tried every last resort possible.

Hmm, hmmmm. Mental health professional? A close friend you can vent to?

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 11:37 PM
Hmm, hmmmm. Mental health professional? A close friend you can vent to?

Well I am talking to a very close friend- but it is not doing much. I've tried getting mental help professionally, and I still remained the way I was.

Well this IS A DAMN FORUM FOR GOD'S SAKE! If you help that's "something deeper, something for somebody who has tried every last resort possible", then fucking get help IN REAL LIFE.

Well, excuse me for mistaking you all for intelligent beings that may have it like I do and therefore could know what to do in this situation. There is no need to be an ass about it.

[Dont double post use the edit button-Cloudykins]

Ender
August 22nd, 2010, 11:38 PM
Well I am talking to a very close friend- but it is not doing much. I've tried getting mental help professionally, and I still remained the way I was.

Try a different professional. Just try being pisitive instead of negative for fucks sake.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 11:39 PM
Try a different professional. Just try being pisitive instead of negative for fucks sake.

I try and be positive, I just cannot maintain it. I've actually gone through a series of professionals, none of them doing me any good.

Cloud
August 22nd, 2010, 11:41 PM
Hey heres a good idea
Lets stop the fighting and get on like civil young adults here please?
Afterall this is a HELP FORUM as I.J exclaimed so were not going to fight in here
anymore fighting or bashing like 3 or whatever posts up will result in an infraction
I HAVE SPOKEN

I.J.
August 22nd, 2010, 11:52 PM
Ok, ya I guess we should stop turning this into a fight..but I'm sorry if you can't get any help, but if you couldn't get any help from a SERIES of professionals, friends or family, and the people here at VT, then chances are, you're just gonna have to pull through it. Many people have been through depressions like this, so I'm sure you can do it too. Hopefully there'll be a future post in this thread or another forum that can help you.

the8bitter
August 22nd, 2010, 11:53 PM
Ok, ya I guess we should stop turning this into a fight..but I'm sorry if you can't get any help, but if you couldn't get any help from a SERIES of professionals, friends or family, and the people here at VT, then chances are, you're just gonna have to pull through it. Many people have been through depressions like this, so I'm sure you can do it too. Hopefully there'll be a future post in this thread or another forum that can help you.

I'll try. If nobody can help me, I must help myself. Fight the war on my own, without any help...I'll become stronger perhaps.

I apologize for being such an ass- I'm probably not a very nice person although I try to be.

Ender
August 22nd, 2010, 11:55 PM
I'll try. If nobody can help me, I must help myself. Fight the war on my own, without any help...I'll become stronger perhaps.

See, thinking positive :) you can pull through, i promise, if you just try, itll be a lot of work, but if you stay pozitive and focussed, you can do it.

Cloud
August 23rd, 2010, 12:05 AM
Thanks, but I have no goals or intentions. As far as I know, I should have been aborted as a baby right from the start.
Are you actually serious?
do you even want our help or are you just going to be the biggest pessimist you can be and try to just depress everyone here and deem them failures at giving help

Thank you, but nothing WILL improve. I am one that is never heard, always in the minroity and always will be. I've been trying for 7 years (yes, I've been like this since I was a 7 or 8 year old) and NOTHING happened- zip, nada. 7 years is a long time, so there's already reason to start losing hope.
If you think that and are set on thinking that why waste our time bringing it to us if your so set on nothing improving?

There is...NOTHING I look forward to and I gurantee that I will never find it. nothing ever makes me happy, nor will anything ever.
this thread is head pounding against the wall worthy...

I wouldn't ever be happy in this mortal coil, so it is just a matter of deciding wethether to stay alive in physcial form or detach from physical form.
The none stupid answer that doesnt require someone cleaning up the mess
And really if your making that decision then atleast consider the resolution to the problem your death will bring..

See? This is the one instance in which there is NO hope for somebody. Perfect example for you guys, to show that help can only go so far before its done with.
YAY just bring us all down as failures
thankyou

This is powerful proof for you all- a death CAN affect no entity in the world, and can pass just as quietly as a dust mite rolling across a floor.
Yet it hasnt here, since youve chose to proclaim it to us all, that you want to die
yet you wont
because your not going to kill yourself. otherwise youd have done it instead of making this thread if you were set on it

Jagster
August 23rd, 2010, 12:21 AM
Harley, Let me tell you something. I had to endure 7 years of pain at my dad's last military base. Now I'm up in Alaska where I have great friends and a great life. People say that life will get better because it is true. Life got better as I got away from the last base.

ktmay96
August 23rd, 2010, 08:37 PM
Alright then. Since our advice doesn't seem to be convincing you, I am not here to tell you not to do it (though I still don't think you should. Just because your mom doesn't listen doesn't mean she wouldn't care if you died. Death is a pretty damn big thing, I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it would affect her.)
Anywayy not the point. Since you don't seem to want to be convinced, then just tell me: what exactly is wrong? Why don't you want to live anymore? Why do you feel there is no hope?

the8bitter
August 23rd, 2010, 08:53 PM
I'm actually feeling better now. Mods, go ahead and remove this. I'm stupid, and everybody who felt offended of this thread (although I meant what I was saying)
[Were not going to let you condone rule breaking-Cloud]

Cloud
August 23rd, 2010, 08:55 PM
as per request
:locked: