Sexual predator attraction Theory??

[Dante]

I am a Big fan of Dateline's To Catch a Predator series. If you are unfamiliar with it. It is a running series on Dateline, where Dateline teams up with Perverted Justice which is watchdog group to target child sexual predators.

Now as I watch this show, Guys come into the house with intent to have sex with these underage children. (which is actually a sting set up by perverted justice). NBC's Chris Hanson sits down with them and asks them questions, and time after time they say things like "Oh, i have a problem" and all that crap.

Now the reason for this thread.

Do you think that the attraction these men and some women have to little children is natural? Meaning that they cannot help being attracted to children.

similar with Homosexuals being attracted to members of the same sex. We know it isnt by choice, but something that one is born with ( which is still a debate)

Now I am not saying that it is on the same line because one clearly isnt and it is def. wrong.

I am DEF. not making excuses for these men because what they are doing is wrong and I believe that the laws should change drastically for convicting child predators. The reason why I also bring this up is because I have heard some of them say they have been attracted to younger kids even when they were children.

So what do you guys think?

[mRojas2000]

I think you're right... like you said, it's like being gay. You born gay, and you can't do anything about it... pedophile people BORN pedophile, and they can't do anything about it... of course, being the law so strict with child porn, and child sexual abuse, they should try to hold themeselves not to do it... they just have to try not to do things to childs, and get themeselves young girls, that look even younger, for their own fetish...
What they do it's wrong, but they can't do anything about it... unfortunatelly they were borned like that, and they cant change their likes/dislikes even if they wanted to... people just have to let it be, and hold themselves...

Miguel

[Hyper]

I consider.. Both as a mental illness

[Makod]

Exactly, pedophiles are born pedophiles.

Hmmm... I know there's a thread somewhere here that shows this...

[Phantom]

I disagree. Gay marrige and all that is fine, but I dont believe that people are born pedos thats just sick. If you think that you accualy are BORN like that somthings wrong with you. Its just a very sick fettish.

[cmpcmp]

Do you think that the attraction these men and some women have to little children is natural? Meaning that they cannot help being attracted to children.
Natural has nothing to do with it, roads aren't natural but u still use them, don't you? being unnatural doen't mean anything as far as right and wrong goes (unless there are other reasons to support your position).

-there is still debate about what causes pedophilia, but from what iv read/heard, some ppl are born a pedofile, like some ppl are born straight and some are born gay.
-the "hot" topic is wether being sexualy abused as a child will make you a pediofile. It really has nothing do do with pediophilia (as far as the general public is concered about voting issues, and social issues), as it has to do with homosexuality. but.... were not talking about that.

according to some...
Some individuals[12][13], such as Dr. Fred S. Berlin[14][15], assert sexual attraction to children to be a sexual orientation in itself. Berlins asserts, "I think it can be both a disorder and an orientation."[16] Dan Markussen, spokesman for Danish Pedophile Association, argues that "sexual orientation is defined as a lifelong attraction, which pedophilia obviously is."
such as Dr. Fred Berlin, believe pedophilia can "indeed be successfully treated," if only the medical community would give it more attention.[14] The reported success rate of modern "reparative" treatment on pedophiles is very low.[29] A study by the Council on Scientific Affairs found that the success rate of aversion therapy was parallel to that of homosexual reparative therapy.[30]

If you are born with something is it natural? maybe.
-but 'natural' things can be bad
-and unnatural things can be bad
---it really dosn't matter, what does is the actual thing/action.
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What do i think personaly?
-pediophiles have one of the highest resididism rate (commiting a similar crime again) out of all offenders. For the intereset of public saftey, if they can't be treated (with a good rate of success), and can't be properly contained in normal society, they must be kept apart so that no ones children have to be raped needlessly (i am NOT saying that any one needs to be raped BTW).
-I know that some pediafiles are 'worse' than others, but if u molest/rape/(w/e) a child (pre pubesent) becuase you are a pediafile and you are very likely to do it agian, you should never be lets out of prison, ever.
-there is no sense putting some one in a situation that they mentaly aren't likely to be able to stop themselves from doing again.

-if there is something the medicine comes up with that can 'fix' some one (hormone replacement or w/e they come up with in the future.) and it has a very good cure rate, then yes they sould be let out after serving a normal prison term.
-If someone is a pediofile they have a moral obligation to tell who ever, so that they can be treated/made so the they don't come in to contact with children.

[Whisper]

I think its utter BULLSHIT there sick in the fucking head and should all be killed!
There are NO excuesses
there are NO natural reasons
it IS there fault
they ARE fucked up and i DESPISE all of them!!!!!!

I think you're right... like you said, it's like being gay. You born gay, and you can't do anything about it... pedophile people BORN pedophile, and they can't do anything about it... of course, being the law so strict with child porn, and child sexual abuse, they should try to hold themeselves not to do it... they just have to try not to do things to childs, and get themeselves young girls, that look even younger, for their own fetish...
What they do it's wrong, but they can't do anything about it... unfortunatelly they were borned like that, and they cant change their likes/dislikes even if they wanted to... people just have to let it be, and hold themselves...

Miguel

thats sick
you obivously have NO idea what your talking about so shut the hell up

[Phantom]

I think its utter there sick in the ing head and should all be killed!
There are NO excuesses
there are NO natural reasons
it IS there fault
they ARE ed up and i DESPISE all of them!!!!!!



thats sick
you obivously have NO idea what your talking about so shut the hell upQFT quoted for truth

[cmpcmp]

I think its utter BULLSHIT there sick in the fucking head and should all be killed!
There are NO excuesses
there are NO natural reasons
it IS there fault
they ARE fucked up and i DESPISE all of them!!!!!!
ok.... lets take this one at a time.

I think its utter BULLSHIT there sick in the fucking head and should all be killed!
-They are sick in the head, and should be imprisoned if they pose a threat to society.
There are NO excuesses
Are you saying that they choose to be pediophiles? In some cases pediophilia is a form of basicly insanity in which one can't controll themselves. This is a pretty good excuse, and if there is a "cure" ever they should be able to be let out of prison at some point.
there are NO natural reasons
Being natural doesn't make something definitvely right or wrong.
it IS there fault
Some ppl are born pediophiles, some ppl are born gay, some with cancer, and some with AIDS, it definitley isn't there fault that they are "sick in the head" if they are able to not do it, and they do it, then it is definitely their fault.
they ARE fucked up and i DESPISE all of them!!!!!!
They are, and its really sad for every one, i despise them also.

[Phantom]

To all you lib tards that say oh they cant help it, lets see how well you accept them once they molest your child.

[mRojas2000]

Why is there fault?? they can't controle themselves if they like children, and thats what I think, you are not gonna make me change what I think

[cmpcmp]

To all you lib tards that say oh they cant help it, lets see how well you accept them once they molest your child.
I some cases they cant.
-any one would feel bad no matter who, in what state of mental health raped their child
-I by no stretch "accept them" they are sick in the head.
-if they are a threat, they should be thrown in prison.

[Whisper]

Why is there fault?? they can't controle themselves if they like children, and thats what I think, you are not gonna make me change what I think


You have no idea what your talking about little one
You have no idea what there like
What they do to you
How they hurt you not just physically but how they lash out at your very soul infecting you with guilt, self hatred, depression and uncontrolable rage you have NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT ITS LIKE

Did your mommy every drop you off at a babysitters when you were 5 fucking years old?
just a babysitter someone who has many great refrences lots of other kids and seems so nice on the surface
did he like you more then the rest?
did he lead you into a room and over power you?
did he attack you?
touch you?
hurt you?
NO?!?!?!?!?! THEN SHUT THE HELL UP


There is no prision
there is no rehabilitation
it IS THERE FAULT
they DO deserve to die

[Hyper]

Well.. I dont support mass murdering.. But I dont realy support their release.. For as I recall I have seen many movies where they are let back into the world after being 'cured' and how they have commited the same crimes again after being cured..

I think they should be put to jail... And if they do get cured they should be let back into the world but with.. Damn my English.. Lets just say checkups and surveylance of some sort..

[Phantom]

pedos are the lowest kind of person right next to terrorists and militia savages in africa. IMO

[cmpcmp]

-I said if they are able to be cured.
-Currently there is no true "cure"
-So they should be in prison untill they die/a "cure" is found.
-pedophilia isn't an atraction that is normal, it is generaly much stronger than ppl's other atractions.
-There are mental diseases/disorders that can be "cured" with medicine, some ppl are insane off meds and totaly normal on them. If something like that if found (assuming that it's even possible) then they shold be able to go back into society, but only then.

[Dante]

If they act on their attraction to children is the problem. If in fact they are born with an attraction to kids(but do nothing about it), do we imprison them or help them?

Pedophiles are sick people, no doubt.

I believe that the laws need to change drastically in the United states when dealing with child predators. The fact that there is no national law, that it differes by state to state is a big problem, there are cases where convicted sexual predators are released from prison after only serving a few years, and im talking about repeated sexual predators. So the law def. needs to be harsher in dealing with them.

and trust me, there are people who are just plain sick out there, who wants to ruin peoples lives not because they cant help it, because they're evil.

[Phantom]

If they act on their attraction to children is the problem. If in fact they are born with an attraction to kids(but do nothing about it), do we imprison them or help them?

s are sick people, no doubt.

I believe that the laws need to change drastically in the United states when dealing with child predators. The fact that there is no national law, that it differes by state to state is a big problem, there are cases where convicted ual predators are released from prison after only serving a few years, and im talking about repeated ual predators. So the law def. needs to be harsher in dealing with them.

and trust me, there are people who are just plain sick out there, who wants to ruin peoples lives not because they cant help it, because they're evil.They are not born like that. Its people that think they cant help it let them go so easly.
I swear the penatly for abusing a kid like that should be death.
Abuse like that will literaly destroy a kid and ruin their life.

[Dante]

why did u edit your post?

you said that it was people like me that sympathize with them in court.

well first off, note what I said. If there is a way to help them not be attracted to kids, shouldnt we? Wouldnt that save a kids life and that persons life?

If they act on that impulse, then they are wrong! I am not disputing that whatsoever. Hell I am for making the laws stricter. So dont ever insinuate it is people like ME, that are making them do this over and over again.

[Phantom]

why did u edit your post?

you said that it was people like me that sympathize with them in court.

well first off, note what I said. If there is a way to help them not be attracted to kids, shouldnt we? Wouldnt that save a kids life and that persons life?

If they act on that impulse, then they are wrong! I am not disputing that whatsoever. Hell I am for making the laws stricter. So dont ever insinuate it is people like ME, that are making them do this over and over again.This is why I edited

[Whisper]

They are not born like that. Its people that think they cant help it let them go so easly.
I swear the penatly for abusing a kid like that should be death.
Abuse like that will literaly destroy a kid and ruin their life.

AGREED!
Its disgusting
its unforgivable
Its unacceptable
the damage it causes haunts you for the rest of your life
it changes you
takes something from you

I find it funny how everyone in this thread seems to think they know exactly what there talking about
yet correct me if i'm wrong
only one person has seen first hand what its like

[mRojas2000]

You have no idea what your talking about little one
You have no idea what there like
What they do to you
How they hurt you not just physically but how they lash out at your very soul infecting you with guilt, self hatred, depression and uncontrolable rage you have NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT ITS LIKE

Did your mommy every drop you off at a babysitters when you were 5 fucking years old?
just a babysitter someone who has many great refrences lots of other kids and seems so nice on the surface
did he like you more then the rest?
did he lead you into a room and over power you?
did he attack you?
touch you?
hurt you?
NO?!?!?!?!?! THEN SHUT THE HELL UP


There is no prision
there is no rehabilitation
it IS THERE FAULT
they DO deserve to die

I'm not fucking talking about people who hurt children... I fucking agree with you that there's nothing we can do to those people... they so deserve to die and burn in hell.
I'm just talking about people who have a phisical attraction to children, thats all... what if it was YOU the one who was gay... or liked children??? you can't fucking do anything about it, so, you like it or not, you like children phisically, and you can't do a shit about it... thats all I'm talking about... I was never defending thus who hurt children, and do immaginable things to them... hell no, that people deserve to burn in hell for eternity. It's just that pedos can't control themself on their likings... they SHOULD be able to control themselves on abusing a child... I do agree with you that they should all die.
There's nothing worst than abusing of a child or a women...

[Hyper]

Riiight.. The overall point is hate and spread hate.. And killing pedophiles wont realy solve anything, it will just make us all more violent and blind. And Phantom if someone doesnt approve of your views, that doesnt mean they are the reasons why these people are doing these things and why they are let out of jail so quickly.. But if you want to know where the law isnt strict at all just look at my homecountry a serial killer here who killed what.. 6-8 people I think was let out after being in jail for 5 years.. Isn't that wonderful? And all this because he was 16 while he did these things. The court system here is ridicilous and if anyone is ever caught they are practicly going to a picnic in jail. Like yes recently there was some pedophile caught here who had allegidly molested 20 children guess what not enough evidence and at the most he wouldve gotten 7 years..

[mRojas2000]

If they act on their attraction to children is the problem. If in fact they are born with an attraction to kids(but do nothing about it), do we imprison them or help them?

Pedophiles are sick people, no doubt.

I believe that the laws need to change drastically in the United states when dealing with child predators. The fact that there is no national law, that it differes by state to state is a big problem, there are cases where convicted sexual predators are released from prison after only serving a few years, and im talking about repeated sexual predators. So the law def. needs to be harsher in dealing with them.

and trust me, there are people who are just plain sick out there, who wants to ruin peoples lives not because they cant help it, because they're evil.

Whisper:
I just read this... THIS is my point of view with pedos... the born pedos, they can't do anything about it... they are sick people, but they can't do anything about it. My only concern with them, is if they molest of abuse of children... that I'm totally against with it, like most people should... do you see my point now??
THEY ARE sick people with no doubt... but they cant help it... its not their foult... like someone at the beggining said, its like a mental illness




Riiight.. The overall point is hate and spread hate.. And killing pedophiles wont realy solve anything, it will just make us all more violent and blind. And Phantom if someone doesnt approve of your views, that doesnt mean they are the reasons why these people are doing these things and why they are let out of jail so quickly.. But if you want to know where the law isnt strict at all just look at my homecountry a serial killer here who killed what.. 6-8 people I think was let out after being in jail for 5 years.. Isn't that wonderful? And all this because he was 16 while he did these things. The court system here is ridicilous and if anyone is ever caught they are practicly going to a picnic in jail. Like yes recently there was some pedophile caught here who had allegidly molested 20 children guess what not enough evidence and at the most he wouldve gotten 7 years..

No one, that I know has said anything about killing all pedos... from what I've read people only say that they deserve to die...

btw, why are laws so soft there?? I mean, molesting a child, I think its worst than killing... why? because killing -- you finish someone elses life, and its done... no more pain after it. Molesting a child -- its even worst because the child might get a disorder after that.. they wont forget what happen, all the pain, and all that.. then they are going to be scared of telling someone because whoever abused them might end up killing them, so they dont tell... then they feel bad because they think its they foult, which is not... do you imagine a lifetime like that???
its just sick

[0=]

I disagree. Gay marrige and all that is fine, but I dont believe that people are born pedos thats just sick. If you think that you accualy are BORN like that somthings wrong with you. Its just a very sick fettish.

Hey, I'm attracted to shorter girls, some people like fat, some people like young, some people like old, the way they go about the behavior is what's so disgusting.

If they didn't do things the child didn't wish, then it wouldn't be as bad. We all seem to think children are "innocent" and asexual, but what about kids who are sexually attracted to adults? Are they bad too? What if it's consensual? Why does society consider children asexual beings, and why does society consider sex something so dirty? Then again, why do they often hurt or do things against the child's wishes? I'm not saying I support them, I'm just bringing up some points.

[Phantom]

Hey, I'm attracted to shorter s, some people like fat, some people like young, some people like old, the way they go about the behavior is what's so disgusting.Ok I can understand tolerance, but CHILDREN do you understand what you are saying. I dont see how someone could be attracted to children and not be disgusting. If you are attracted to children you are most likely going to abuse one of them, and do it again once you get out of jail if you get caught. Pedos are a threat to society its nothing like being gay not even close gay people do no harm pedos do they destroy lives.

[0=]

Like I said, it's how they go about the behavior that's awful.

[Phantom]

Like I said, it's how they go about the behavior that's awful.Yes it is

[mRojas2000]

Ok I can understand tolerance, but CHILDREN do you understand what you are saying. I dont see how someone could be attracted to children and not be disgusting. If you are attracted to children you are most likely going to abuse one of them, and do it again once you get out of jail if you get caught. Pedos are a threat to society its nothing like being gay not even close gay people do no harm pedos do they destroy lives.

what the hell?? not every single pedof. is gonna abuse of a children.
if they are mature civilized persons, they are most likely NOT to do it
if they are just plain ignorant they will
being pedophile doesnt mean you are destinated to abuse of a child... you just like them phisically... you are not meant to be a children abusing machine

[Hyper]

Ok the only thing that has been proven how pedophiles become pedophiles

There are 2 proven options

1) The pedophile was molested him/herself in the past and now carries on her/hes hate

2) Being affected by the surroundings

I would explain deeper but whoever is realy intrested just google some info up..

[Phantom]

what the hell?? not every single pedof. is gonna abuse of a children.
if they are mature civilized persons, they are most likely NOT to do it
if they are just plain ignorant they will
being e doesnt mean you are destinated to abuse of a child... you just like them phisically... you are not meant to be a children abusing machineGood point, butI would still prefer my babysitter for my child to NOT be attacted to kids.

Ok the only thing that has been proven how es become es

There are 2 proven options

1) The e was molested him/herself in the past and now carries on her/hes

2) Being affected by the surroundings

I would explain deeper but whoever is realy intrested just google some info up..1st if you got molested when you would young that would cause the exact OPOSITE, if somone killed someone in your family would that make you want to kill people family?
2. I guess if you lived with other pedos and they taught you their sick thinking I guess but otherwise no.

[Whisper]

Ok the only thing that has been proven how pedophiles become pedophiles

There are 2 proven options

1) The pedophile was molested him/herself in the past and now carries on her/hes hate

Don't you dare insult me like that
i would never harm an inocent todler just because it was done to me

[Phantom]

Dont take is personly whisper, Hyper dosnt know what he is talking about.

[mRojas2000]

Good point, butI would still prefer my babysitter for my child to NOT be attacted to kids.

1st if you got molested when you would young that would cause the exact OPOSITE, if somone killed someone in your family would that make you want to kill people family?
2. I guess if you lived with other pedos and they taught you their sick thinking I guess but otherwise no.

if a babysitter was pedo, i dont think that would count as civilized...

i do have to agree tho, that if a child was abused, they would be the exact opposite of pedophile, and that would be the last thing in the world they would be...

[Phantom]

if a babysitter was pedo, i dont think that would count as civilized...

i do have to agree tho, that if a child was abused, they would be the exact opposite of e, and that would be the last thing in the world they would be...Well thats exactly what hyper said, he just demostrated his stupidity.

[Dante]

A molested child is affected for life psychologically. Each child could and has responded differently over the years. Some do in fact become child predators themselves, most don't.

[cmpcmp]

Ok, first off
Ok the only thing that has been proven how es become es

There are 2 proven options

1) The e was molested him/herself in the past and now carries on her/hes

2) Being affected by the surroundings

I would explain deeper but whoever is realy intrested just google some info up..

-Is this to say that no one is born a pedofile?
-It has been proven that some pedofiles atraction isn't just simply a normal atraction to kids, it is an iresistable urge. After being just being let out of prison some pedo's will go and directly start molestin again. It isn't a rational behavior in some ppl. It may be almost like a mental disease.

-These ppl should be locked up for good (unless there is some kind of miracle cure)

[Whisper]

-These ppl should be locked up for good (unless there is some kind of miracle cure)

no they should be killed immediatly zero tollerance policy
waste my fucking tax dollars giving them a roof over there head, entertainment and three square meals a day i dont fucking think so

[Phantom]

no they should be killed immediatly zero tollerance policy
waste my ing tax dollars giving them a roof over there head, entertainment and three square meals a day i dont ing think soI think I agree with you there whisper. I am sorry for what you went through man:(

[cmpcmp]

no they should be killed immediatly zero tollerance policy waste my fucking tax dollars giving them a roof over there head, entertainment and three square meals a day i dont fucking think so
hastefull vengence isn't a good thing IMO, especialy when it is being sanctioned by the state.

-What if someone is atracted to kids but isn't the kind of pedofile that will molest no matter what you do to/for them? What do you do with them? where do you draw the line?
-Would it only happen if someone is actualy convicted of a crime, not just diagnosed or w/e w/ pedofilia? if it is a crime that determines their death, then where is the line drawn?

[mRojas2000]

no they should be killed immediatly zero tollerance policy
waste my fucking tax dollars giving them a roof over there head, entertainment and three square meals a day i dont fucking think so

and killing pedos, what would help?? they are still gonna born, and someone will always abuse of a child... no matter what, it will always happen, its the world



-What if someone is atracted to kids but isn't the kind of pedofile that will molest no matter what you do to/for them? What do you do with them? where do you draw the line?

this is my point in this thread... there are pedos who has never touched a child, of fear of becoming the real beast they are...

[Whisper]

and killing pedos, what would help?? they are still gonna born, and someone will always abuse of a child... no matter what, it will always happen, its the world
Oh so beacuse you belive its the way of the world that means we should just go meh it'll happen anyway who cares?
you have no idea what your talking about
no idea





this is my point in this thread... there are pedos who has never touched a child, of fear of becoming the real beast they are... they should be diagnosed and forced to get "help" while being kept under strict surveilence and they shouldnt be allowed to be near schools, playgrounds daycares, pediatrics etc...
if they do ANYTHING they should be killed immediatly
zero tollerance policy

[mRojas2000]

Oh so beacuse you belive its the way of the world that means we should just go meh it'll happen anyway who cares?
you have no idea what your talking about
no idea

I never said that everyone should just go "ohh who cares..."
im saying that whatever happens, there will always be some one who will abuse of a child...
im not saying that they shouldnt be punished, because they should... if possible, by death, but even if i think this, it still doesnt help in anything...





they should be diagnosed and forced to get "help" while being kept under strict surveilence and they shouldnt be allowed to be near schools, playgrounds daycares, pediatrics etc...


I agree with this... maybe having tome kind of help, and learn that abusing of childs its not right and stuff... people always have an opportunity to change... until they dont abuse of a child, they have an opportunity...

[Whisper]

i garuntee you a zero tollerance policy would help it would work as a great deterant for them to know that they would be killed there would be no get out of jail on good behaviour

[mRojas2000]

i garuntee you a zero tollerance policy would help it would work as a great deterant for them to know that they would be killed there would be no get out of jail on good behaviour

so what you mean is that if there was a law that would like kill them/put them in jail for the rest of their lives would help, since they know that if the abused child tells on them, they can get eather of this punishments??? well... yeah it might help... instead of killing them, government could isolate them from everything else, other than the food they eat... and so like this, they dont know whats happening in the world, and people thinks they dont even exist anymore... maybe even this thought would scare other pedos, and incourrage them on abusing a child...


ohh btw... this just came in mind... how about those pedos that abuse, kill (or not) and then kill themselves... see?? there will always be someone who will get away...

[Whisper]

they can go ahead and kill themselves saves us the trouble
and no
i dont mean life in prision i mean the death penatly

[mRojas2000]

i dont mean life in prision i mean the death penatly

life in prison would be more much rasonable... i think by just killing a person its horrible, no matter how horrible things they did...
anyways, you just said a magic word that made me think a little harder... death penalty... i dont think thats even legal...

[Hyper]

Good point, butI would still prefer my babysitter for my child to NOT be attacted to kids.

1st if you got molested when you would young that would cause the exact OPOSITE, if somone killed someone in your family would that make you want to kill people family?
2. I guess if you lived with other pedos and they taught you their sick thinking I guess but otherwise no.

Amazing how much time you spend here posting but

ffs just read what I said?.. It has been proven that some people are affected by it mentally.. Its the same thing with murderers affected by violence. For example I once happend to see a documentary about some prisoners who were beaten and sexualy abused by their parents in the past. Those who were beaten used the same techniques on their victims same with the sexualy abused. Please dont start calling me an idiot if you yourself know nothing what I am talking about

[Phantom]

Amazing how much time you spend here posting but

ffs just read what I said?.. It has been proven that some people are affected by it mentally.. Its the same thing with ers affected by . For example I once happend to see a documentary about some prisoners who were beaten and ualy abused by their parents in the past. Those who were beaten used the same techniques on their victims same with the ualy abused. Please dont start calling me an idiot if you yourself know nothing what I am talking aboutWhere did I call you an idiot omfg ffs you think if I even oppose your opinion OMFGZ STOPZZ FLAMINZZ IGNORANT!!!!
Jesus f*cking christ man

[cmpcmp]

It is true, people who were beaten as children are statisticly more likely to beat their children, and same with ppl who beat their wives. It's really sad, but it is true is SOME not all cases.

Being messed up (by some one) especialy as a child can and sometimes does make you messed up later

[Phantom]

I dont see how that would be true it seems very counter intuitive.
If somone killed my mom I would NOT want to go out and kill somone elses mom it just dosnt make sense.
If my dad was mean to me as a kid I would be the exact OPPOSITE making sure my kid is never treated that way.

[cmpcmp]

Root Causes

Many factors may contribute to family stress that results in child abuse or neglect. Understanding the root causes of abuse can help better determine the best methods of prevention and treatment. Most parents don't hurt or neglect their children intentionally. Many were themselves abused or neglected. Very young or inexperienced parents might not know how to take care of their babies or what they can reasonably expect from children at different stages of development. Circumstances that place families under extraordinary stress - for instance, poverty, divorce, sickness, disability - sometimes take their toll in child maltreatment. Parents who abuse alcohol or other drugs are more likely to abuse or neglect their children.
wikipedia, or CNN
ATLANTA (CNN) -- Experts say there is no greater risk factor for child abuse than a parent having been abused themselves either as a child or as an adult. One study estimates parents abused as children are 10 times more likely to abuse their own child. Yet little funding is directed toward preventing child abuse by identifying those parents at high risk.

It is very counter intuitive. But it isn't a guaranteed thing, and the opposite (what u described) does also happen where parent are afraid to punish their kids at all.

[Whisper]

Jesus will you just drop it!
OMG
I think its clear where everyone stands
so can we fucking drop it already

[Dante]

I know this thread is old..but i have some info!!

Today in my psych class we were talking about rapist and child molesters and he told us that child molesters are indeed secually attracted to little children.....BUT when they get treated there is still a HUGE chance of them doing it again..like before treatment 90% after treatment 86%!

[Whisper]

wow really? shocker there!

kill'em

[0=]

They don't deserve death, but that leads into the debate of what to do about overcrowded prisons...

I think a very small percentage really just cant help it, and the rest are either sick bastards or have serious mental disorders.

[Maverick]

Plain and simple: They shouldn't be allowed back into society after committing one sex crime. The risk of letting them out isn't worth cost of another child's life ruined.

[Dante]

they need to change the laws in this country! and make it a FEDERAL CRIME....I just do not understand why legislation isnt being pushed! pisses me off!!

[DestroyTheFuture]

to go back toriginal statement

pedophilia IS a choice, just like homosexuality is a choice, but thats a different forum, so leave that alone in here.

if i wanted to, i could go and have sex with children, but i know the consequences of doing that, so im not going to.


pedophiliacs are only pedophiles because they cant get laid by people their age, so they go to younger kids who think sex is cool, or unknown to them.


i dont think they should be killed right away or anything, i think after 3 sexual offenses, then serious punishment is needed. Pedophiliacs can change if they wanted to, so only a reasonable punishment is required, to teach them that what they are doing isnt looked upon as acceptable.

[redcar]

Oh no you did not just mention homosexuality in the same sentence as pedophilia.


i think after 3 sexual offenses, then serious punishment is needed.

So what happens after offense 1 and 2? Do they get a fine or something, a bit of community service? If someone is sick enough to touch a child like that they need to be locked up and throw away the key. They are not fit to live among civilised people.

[Hyper]

If you sexually abuse a child you should go to jail without a change of getting out

If you beat a child.. Continuesly abuse then the same, it's not something that's normal or a choice, I cant realy choose when im 24 or something that il fuck children its just something not in me, and I consider people who do something like that practicly evil and demented

[Whisper]

to go back toriginal statement

pedophilia IS a choice, just like homosexuality is a choice, but thats a different forum, so leave that alone in here.

if i wanted to, i could go and have sex with children, but i know the consequences of doing that, so im not going to.


pedophiliacs are only pedophiles because they cant get laid by people their age, so they go to younger kids who think sex is cool, or unknown to them.


i dont think they should be killed right away or anything, i think after 3 sexual offenses, then serious punishment is needed. Pedophiliacs can change if they wanted to, so only a reasonable punishment is required, to teach them that what they are doing isnt looked upon as acceptable.

Who are you again?
Aperantly you've been here since Jan but I gotta be honest I JUST noticed you
they say first impressions are the most important...I gotta say you did a shitty job
fuckin n00bs -shakes head-


Where you ever molested?
Where you ever physically used and abused for the sick and twisted pleasure of someone bigger and stronger then yourself?
Have you ever been forcefully touched?
Used, hurt, abused, confused?

no
then shut up your embarrassing yourself

[redcar]

Who are you again?
It's MNHockey11. Had a name change.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

to go back toriginal statement

pedophilia IS a choice, just like homosexuality is a choice, but thats a different forum, so leave that alone in here.

if i wanted to, i could go and have sex with children, but i know the consequences of doing that, so im not going to.


pedophiliacs are only pedophiles because they cant get laid by people their age, so they go to younger kids who think sex is cool, or unknown to them.


i dont think they should be killed right away or anything, i think after 3 sexual offenses, then serious punishment is needed. Pedophiliacs can change if they wanted to, so only a reasonable punishment is required, to teach them that what they are doing isnt looked upon as acceptable.

Ok, most of this is crap. let's take it one part at a time.

if i wanted to, i could go and have sex with children, but i know the consequences of doing that, so im not going to.
You could, but you wouldn't enjoy it! that's why paedophilies have sick minds, beacuse they get pleasure out of it (mental pleasure, you can be physically stimulated by almost anything).

pedophiliacs are only pedophiles because they cant get laid by people their age, so they go to younger kids who think sex is cool, or unknown to them.

STFU! Anyone with anything in their heads can see this is crap.

i dont think they should be killed right away or anything, i think after 3 sexual offenses, then serious punishment is needed. Pedophiliacs can change if they wanted to, so only a reasonable punishment is required, to teach them that what they are doing isnt looked upon as acceptable.

3 offences? 3 OFFENCES? I really want to come and beat every ounce of stupid out of you, but I'd be there for hours. that's just crap.

I agree with ~FAtUM~. They should die. Kill the fuckers now.

[Whisper]

THANK YOU!!!!
omg dude WOW
YOU KICK ASS!!!

[Ironic Infidel In England]

THANK YOU!!!!
omg dude WOW
YOU KICK ASS!!!

:whoops: Thankyou. It's just what I think.

[Valheru]

Ok i was interested in a topic similar to this not to long ago... had to do with psych class and stuff....

was reading aticles about pedos and their personality... Well yes what they do is considered wrong byt he majority of people... some articles written by the pedos showed some interesting insights into their way of life... Most pedos will never willingly HURT a child... they become firends with the child and "I would ask.. and if a child said no then i would never touch them..."

i'll agree it's twisted but just saying they all need to die... if just wrong... because you said that i'm gonna peg you as a serial killer and lock you up to.... so have fun

I see more news things and cases about people having pictures of naked children... meaning they hadn't touched any kids that people knew of but they had pictures which is also illegal

What if these guys had pictures to distract themselves from the real kids that went around to try and stop themselves from ever going out and hurting a kid.
..................................................



Bleh... now i'm gonna be murdered by almost all of you as well.


oh one last thing from the article

Most pedos when they find out the child is gonna tell will run instead of threatening the child... "many parents sho found out that i was playing with their kids didn't call the cops... they just told me to go away. and i would leave"

Pedos target kids by being nice to them... becoming their best buddy and getting them to agree to everything... they want the kids to be happy...



ONE LSAT POINT.... what i just said is in NO WAY a reflection of 100% of the ones out there. so if you reply saying anything to that degree i will ignore anything you said cause you will not be worthy of a response.

[DestroyTheFuture]

Who are you again?
Aperantly you've been here since Jan but I gotta be honest I JUST noticed you
they say first impressions are the most important...I gotta say you did a shitty job
fuckin n00bs -shakes head-


Where you ever molested?
Where you ever physically used and abused for the sick and twisted pleasure of someone bigger and stronger then yourself?
Have you ever been forcefully touched?
Used, hurt, abused, confused?

no
then shut up your embarrassing yourself


why is he allowed to use this insulting language towards me? i do not appreciate that very much.

also, how would you know that i havent been sexually abused? exactly, you dont. but, you do now...i havent been. the point is, if i had been sexually abused, then what you said there would have made me very emotionally upset. you should be more careful around subjects that can be very emotionally harmful to others.

Please learn how to use 'were' instead of 'where'. It helps to act smarter than the opponent that you are arguing over.

but yes, i was previously MNHockey11.
i am pretty popular in this forum so look around and your most likely to see me.

[DestroyTheFuture]

"STFU! Anyone with anything in their heads can see this is crap."

firstly, i wasnt being entirely serious. but, one thing is for sure, that it is something that they can change. so, with everyone knowing that, then there is no excuse for pedophilia because its just full of adults who want sex from kids because they are desperate. there are also other reasons, but that is one of them,


"3 offences? 3 OFFENCES? I really want to come and beat every ounce of stupid out of you, but I'd be there for hours. that's just crap."

yes, that is entirely reasonable. i said on the 3rd offense, then a serious punishment is needed, as in, capitol punishment of life without parole. the first 2 would be paid off with 10 and 15-20 years in prison.


there you go. thank you.

[Maverick]

yes, that is entirely reasonable. i said on the 3rd offense, then a serious punishment is needed, as in, capitol punishment of life without parole. the first 2 would be paid off with 10 and 15-20 years in prison.
So if someone sexually molested you twice you wouldn't want them behind bars for life or dead? You'd seriously would agree to give him one more chance?

I highly doubt it.

[Hyper]

I don't agree with us murdering people because it's lowering ourselves to the same level but what I do think myself is

That anyone who 'fucks' a child isn't normal, their fucked up from the head sick and not desperate for getting sex, they are sick, vile people who should be locked up with no change of getting out, period

[tjd154]

No-one should be punished for being attracted to children because no-one chooses who they're attracted to, but people who molest children are commiting a crime just like a rapist and should learn to control their urges.

[Maverick]

No-one should be punished for being attracted to children because no-one chooses who they're attracted to,It's only a problem when they act on it. It MAY not be their fault but we have to protect children who are a bigger priority.

[DestroyTheFuture]

So if someone sexually molested you twice you wouldn't want them behind bars for life or dead? You'd seriously would agree to give him one more chance?

I highly doubt it.


well, your doubtful behavior is not the right way to act upon what i said. i wouldnt necessarily mind, because it probably wouldnt happen a 2nd time. but, if it did, when he got out of jail after his second offense, id be about 30-40+, in which case, id beat his ass.

"but what if he held a gun to your head?"

then id still beat his ass.

"but what if he threatened to kill your loved ones?"

then id turn him in, and then help the police to beat his ass.

[Kiros]

For obvious reasons...

[LOCKED]