why is Weed illeagle??

[OnlyOneChance]

Okay, so i was thinking and Ive heard of people dieing from alcohol, and dieing from smoking cig's.. BUT Never have i heard of someone overdosing on weed, or dieing from it... What do u think???

[Zazu]

Because of a racist government from a while back. Because governments don't want us to free our minds from the modern day constrictions of our suppressed cannabis. Because governments don't like us having too much control, they have to exercise their 'power' every now and then or who would respect them? Because it's something they couldn't control as much as they would like. To give people jobs (police, drugs agencies, all the other useless ones) and to boost statistics. It threatens current monetary systems / company profits too much for some greedy bastards' likings.

There are bloody tons of reasons, most of which are bullshit, some of which are valid.

There's tons of interesting information floating around on the internet. This is the first thing that came up in google and something I've read quite a bit before: http://www.thehempire.com/index.php/cannabis/cannabis_hemp/why_cannabis_is_illegal

But yer, there's tons more information out there from all viewpoints.

[XMADDXMIKEX]

you cant over does on it unless you smoke your weight witch means im 160 pounds if i smoke 160 pounds of weed then ill over does on it

[Rutherford The Brave]

you cant over does on it unless you smoke your weight witch means im 160 pounds if i smoke 160 pounds of weed then ill over does on it

Technically you can, it just makes you sick.

[Zazu]

Technically you can, it just makes you sick.

No no no, it can be fatally toxic (as with anything). You'd just have to smoke copious amounts of weed (the kind of amount of weed that would make some of us just weep - think a mini-mountain of it).

[Rutherford The Brave]

No no no, it can be fatally toxic (as with anything). You'd just have to smoke copious amounts of weed (the kind of amount of weed that would make some of us just weep - think a mini-mountain of it).

Well yeah obviously :P but who has a mini-mountain of weed. I've heard of people smoking 3-4 even 2 bowls by themselves and getting sick. It might be a case of too much weed or just smoking pure stems. I am uncertain of what caused the sickness.

[Paladino]

I dont know why its illegal but I think it shouldnt be, no one has died from smoking weed, people die from alcohol, smoking cigs causes lung cancer but they are legal, tbh if they legalised weed and sold it in shops and stuff then dealers would be out of business and there wouldnt be fights with dealers and buyers and stuff like that.

[Zazu]

Well yeah obviously :P but who has a mini-mountain of weed. I've heard of people smoking 3-4 even 2 bowls by themselves and getting sick. It might be a case of too much weed or just smoking pure stems. I am uncertain of what caused the sickness.

Ahh rightyho, I see what you mean now - would have thought the reason most people vomit is because they've eaten too much; I've seen it happen a few times before.



I dont know why its illegal but I think it shouldnt be, no one has died from smoking weed, people die from alcohol, smoking cigs causes lung cancer but they are legal, tbh if they legalised weed and sold it in shops and stuff then dealers would be out of business and there wouldnt be fights with dealers and buyers and stuff like that.

The man sees sense!

[Paladino]

Ahh rightyho, I see what you mean now - would have thought the reason most people vomit is because they've eaten too much; I've seen it happen a few times before.





The man sees sense!

I know. Thankyou.

[Sordid Saint]

Not only would dealers be out of business, but some people in the DEA and other things that are anti-marijuana would be out of business too.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Not only would dealers be out of business, but some people in the DEA and other things that are anti-marijuana would be out of business too.

Not to mention the crappy quality of the mass produced stuff.

[traxxluver]

it should be legal cuz drunks run red lights and stop signs but stoners r busy going slow for every mcdonalds or burger king in sight

[Rutherford The Brave]

it should be legal cuz drunks run red lights and stop signs but stoners r busy going slow for every mcdonalds or burger king in sight

Not everyone who runs a red light is drunk. I ran a red light.... and I was high.

[DanielBoy]

Here is the fact about weed. Weed is addictive, it produces up to 5X more tar on your lungs than the same amount of tobacco would, it is a drug that makes a noticeable high, and the government doesn't tax it. It is an urban legend that weed isn't addictive, and tar is what causes lung cancer, not the nicotine from cigarettes. The fact that it impairs not only the speed at which we think, but our judgement, and creates a high, it was made illegal in the controlled substances act for this reason. With everything weighed out, weed is more detrimental to someones health when used over time, than alcohol or tobacco.

I hope I helped. :D

[Sith Lord 13]

Here is the fact about weed. Weed is addictive, it produces up to 5X more tar on your lungs than the same amount of tobacco would, it is a drug that makes a noticeable high, and the government doesn't tax it. It is an urban legend that weed isn't addictive, and tar is what causes lung cancer, not the nicotine from cigarettes. The fact that it impairs not only the speed at which we think, but our judgement, and creates a high, it was made illegal in the controlled substances act for this reason. With everything weighed out, weed is more detrimental to someones health when used over time, than alcohol or tobacco.

I hope I helped. :D

Misinformation isn't helpful. Weed is no more addicting than any other activity. You can be addicted to weed only in the same sense that you're addicted to playing guitar. Alcohol impairs your judgment far worse than weed, and not a single death has been linked to weed, as opposed to the vast amounts of deaths related to alcohol or tobacco. Weed doesn't lead to people abusing their children. Excluding illegality, which is not universal and is in fact up for debate, I can not see a single reason one could have for thinking weed is worse than alcohol or tobacco.

[smoothietime]

I dont know why its illegal but I think it shouldnt be, no one has died from smoking weed, people die from alcohol, smoking cigs causes lung cancer but they are legal, tbh if they legalised weed and sold it in shops and stuff then dealers would be out of business and there wouldnt be fights with dealers and buyers and stuff like that. Nah. Me and all the other stoners I know would still buy off their dealers because you can just get a far better street price then at a medi shop. I mean I guess this could help a bit and it would DEFINATLy make a lot of room in the prisons for real criminals but all I know is I would still buy my bud from my neighbor and he would still sell it.

[smoothietime]

Misinformation isn't helpful. Weed is no more addicting than any other activity. You can be addicted to weed only in the same sense that you're addicted to playing guitar. Alcohol impairs your judgment far worse than weed, and not a single death has been linked to weed, as opposed to the vast amounts of deaths related to alcohol or tobacco. Weed doesn't lead to people abusing their children. Excluding illegality, which is not universal and is in fact up for debate, I can not see a single reason one could have for thinking weed is worse than alcohol or tobacco.

ya I think that guy was joking... Not possible to get that much ignorant bullshit into one paragraph on accident.

[staying_alive]

I didn't read through the whole thread, so bear with me if i repeat anyone. I'd like to point out the title of this thread, specifically the word "illegal". Yes, that is how it is spelled. And yes, if you were unsure of it you should've looked it up. I'm not personally insulting you, and I know this is the internet, but let's please look up words that look terribly wrong before posting.

This is the problem right now with weed usage. Americans are traditionally people who can't get enough of anything. Look at our obesity rates. Look at our greed. We NEVER stop. With weed, something used to enjoy oneself, it would be even worse than right now. There are less health effects with weed than cigs, so more people would smoke joints. The American stereotype of general stupidity would get even worse.

Some will make the argument that other places do legalize weed. Yes, that's because they're responsible places. The people of those places learn 3 languages as children and have a better understanding of the world. I'm an American, but i'm not afraid to point out our obvious flaws.

Lastly, since I know someone brought it up, I'd like to address weed addiction. No, there is no physical substance in weed that is addicting. It's something that involves, get this, your brain wanting more of it (read: psychological addiction). When you like the feeling of getting high, you want to do it more (I know, it's SHOCKING). Just like with our obesity rate, our stupidity would shoot through the roof.

These are the reasons weed is not legalized, along with many more. It is unproductive. Do I smoke weed? Absolutely. I do it responsibly and it doesn't impact my life. Unfortunately, as a society, we are not good at avoiding addiction.

Perhaps we need a sticky specifically addressing "I wonder why weed is illegal in some places". There are far too many unaware people who don't understand the implications of a drug like that being available to the masses by the gov't.

[smoothietime]

....The only good arguments against weed I have ever seen in my life.

[lightkun]

U kno y it's not legal? Because people are afraid for some reason that something that makes you feel good must be controlled or outlawed. What the f***, prescription drugs cab be WAY worse than pot. And those are legal. I used to struggle with addiction (painkillers) and I'm sure that it messed up my liver more than any smokeable amount of pot ever could.
Why alcohol and prescription drugs should be outlawed before pot: marijuana is a natural plant and isn't processed like the mentioned above. And people are usually more in control (well I am anyway) when I am high rather than being drunk. But I found king krypto, it's "herbal incense" that has synthetic thc in it. Not totally sure how much safer it is but it doesn't show on a drug test and it's legal (for now anyway)

[staying_alive]

U kno y it's not legal? Because people are afraid for some reason that something that makes you feel good must be controlled or outlawed. What the f***, prescription drugs cab be WAY worse than pot. And those are legal. I used to struggle with addiction (painkillers) and I'm sure that it messed up my liver more than any smokeable amount of pot ever could.
Why alcohol and prescription drugs should be outlawed before pot: marijuana is a natural plant and isn't processed like the mentioned above. And people are usually more in control (well I am anyway) when I am high rather than being drunk. But I found king krypto, it's "herbal incense" that has synthetic thc in it. Not totally sure how much safer it is but it doesn't show on a drug test and it's legal (for now anyway)

Please see my above post. There are lots of things worse than pot. Driving down the street is more dangerous than smoking pot. You need to get in the shoes of the government. Weed does not do anything good for a population as easily-influenced as the American population.

I'm sure that weed did more to your lungs than those painkillers you were addicted to. People need to stop comparing weed to other things. Painkillers, in the eyes of a government, HELP a population.

Alcohol and weed are not the same and never will be, especially in the eyes of the government. You just gave yourself a reason why by saying you're more in control with weed. People know what alcohol does and that's why you have it at bars, clubs, parties, and after a hard day. You don't show up to work drunk, but you COULD show up to work high because you're just in control enough to sit there. However, you WOULD NOT be productive.

Does anyone see what I'm saying? I'm not against weed. I'm against people who think that their fondness of something (read: people who like to get high) has anything to do with how laws are made.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Please see my above post. There are lots of things worse than pot. Driving down the street is more dangerous than smoking pot. You need to get in the shoes of the government. Weed does not do anything good for a population as easily-influenced as the American population.

I'm sure that weed did more to your lungs than those painkillers you were addicted to. People need to stop comparing weed to other things. Painkillers, in the eyes of a government, HELP a population.

Alcohol and weed are not the same and never will be, especially in the eyes of the government. You just gave yourself a reason why by saying you're more in control with weed. People know what alcohol does and that's why you have it at bars, clubs, parties, and after a hard day. You don't show up to work drunk, but you COULD show up to work high because you're just in control enough to sit there. However, you WOULD NOT be productive.

Does anyone see what I'm saying? I'm not against weed. I'm against people who think that their fondness of something (read: people who like to get high) has anything to do with how laws are made.

Actually pot has been found to raise productivity, obviously when you are not high.

[Sordid Saint]

Actually pot has been found to raise productivity, obviously when you are not high.

I go to the boxing gym 3 times a week and I smoke before it. :P For some reason it makes me want to work out on the bags with music that makes me pumped... My friends though, they're lazy as hell.

You should try working out though it's sooo much more fun lol

[chris4]

Okay, so i was thinking and Ive heard of people dieing from alcohol, and dieing from smoking cig's.. BUT Never have i heard of someone overdosing on weed, or dieing from it... What do u think???

If you spelled the title of this thread when high...well, there's your answer.

[Rutherford The Brave]

If you spelled the title of this thread when high...well, there's your answer.

I'm not understanding what your getting at. So he has trouble spelling, you aren't contributing to the thread.

[chris4]

I'm not understanding what your getting at. So he has trouble spelling, you aren't contributing to the thread.
You must be the life of the party. :yeah:

[BOBBY HILL]

even if it is illegal it doesn't stop a large amount of people from doing it

[staying_alive]

Actually pot has been found to raise productivity, obviously when you are not high.

You have to compare that time of increased productivity to the amount of time one is high to achieve it. If one measurement is negative (being high) and one is positive (increased productivity), only the significance of each will determine if it actually impacts anything. I personally have never felt increased productivity after my high goes away. Or the day after that.

I go to the boxing gym 3 times a week and I smoke before it. :P For some reason it makes me want to work out on the bags with music that makes me pumped... My friends though, they're lazy as hell.

You should try working out though it's sooo much more fun lol

I've heard working out while high is quite nice. I wouldn't be able to do it cause I'd end up dropping a weight on my neck or something, but more power to you if you can do it. Usually people (if so tempted) try stimulants before working out, but I'm not condoning that.

even if it is illegal it doesn't stop a large amount of people from doing it

Thank you captain obvious. In fact, it's been shown that some people do it because it's illegal. However, our government has some sort of image to keep with the international populace, and thus outlaws things that would make it easier for our population's reputation to decline further. Like i said, if it was readily available, our greed would take over and we'd fall into a hole of stupidity (well, the majority of us anyway).

[staying_alive]

If you spelled the title of this thread when high...well, there's your answer.

I'm not understanding what your getting at. So he has trouble spelling, you aren't contributing to the thread.

I'm pretty sure he was making a joke that you took more seriously than he expected. He does have a point though that maybe he didn't realize. Our teenage population has incredibly bad English skills, and legalizing (leagle-izing in the words of the OP) weed could only contribute to a further decline.

[Rutherford The Brave]

I'm pretty sure he was making a joke that you took more seriously than he expected. He does have a point though that maybe he didn't realize. Our teenage population has incredibly bad English skills, and legalizing (leagle-izing in the words of the OP) weed could only contribute to a further decline.

Who give's a rat's ass?

The thread is about the fact that pot is illegal. Not who's spelling is better. So drop it, I don't care who was joking.

[staying_alive]

Who give's a rat's ass?

The thread is about the fact that pot is illegal. Not who's spelling is better. So drop it, I don't care who was joking.

And I linked that to the fact that education would decline further if weed was legalized. Subject is now dropped.

[Rutherford The Brave]

And I linked that to the fact that education would decline further if weed was legalized. Subject is now dropped.

FINE you want to go there then let's go down that road.

Show me the facts. Show me how weed is linked to the decline of education. Maybe it could be due to the child not wanting to spell properly. Wait you couldn't see that. Only because to you there must only be one logicalexplaination. That's the problem with most people like you. Let's all link things to something we don't like without and factual evidence. Sorry we are not all gifted with the perfect eduction like you. Sorry our grammar doesn't meet your standards.

[lightkun]

I do think it can have an impact on your personality. I didn't really care about school as much when I started. But it was my choice.

[staying_alive]

FINE you want to go there then let's go down that road.

Show me the facts. Show me how weed is linked to the decline of education. Maybe it could be due to the child not wanting to spell properly. Wait you couldn't see that. Only because to you there must only be one logicalexplaination. That's the problem with most people like you. Let's all link things to something we don't like without and factual evidence. Sorry we are not all gifted with the perfect eduction like you. Sorry our grammar doesn't meet your standards.

I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but if you REALLY want facts, here they are. All taken from [http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1808]


When one's memory is affected by high dose of marijuana, short-term memory is the first to be triggered. Marijuana's damage to short-term memory occurs because THC alters the way in which information is processed by the hippocampus, a brain area responsible for memory formation.


When a user has a high dose of marijuana, new information does not register into their brain and this may be lost from memory and they are not able to retrieve new information for more than a few minutes. There is also a decrease in the activity of nerve cells.


There are two types of memory behavior that is affected by marijuana, recognition memory and free cells. Recognition memory is the ability to recognize correct words. Users can usually recognize words that they previous saw before smoking but claim to recognize words that they did not previously see before smoking. This mistake is known as memory intrusions. Memory intrusions are also the consequence of THC affecting the free cell of the brain. "Marijuana disrupts the ability to freely recall words from a list that has been presented to an intoxicated subject."


Marijuana also impairs emotions. When smoking marijuana, the user may have uncontrollable laughter one minute and paranoia the next. This instant change in emotions has to do with the way that THC affects the brain's limbic system. The limbic system is another region of the brain that governs one's behavior and emotions.


The effects of happiness that marijuana usually cause to the user is not a lasting effect because even though a user smokes weed to get away from the troubles of his/her own life, they still have to face these problems after the effects of the drug wears-off.


The chemicals in marijuana bring cognitive impairment and troubles with learning for the user.

Stop trying to defy logic. Weed is alright when used in moderation to relieve stress and enjoy yourself. We live in America, where people can eat McDonald's until their heart fails. Here's the thing: some people are actually stupid enough to do just that, and our government is aware of it. Making this drug fully legal would have a huge impact on many things, including education.

Also, Cliff's notes for those who don't want to read the source: they proved the above quotes by using college students as subjects.

I don't like where this thread is going. It's making me out to be a weed-hater, which i'm not at all. In fact, I smoked earlier today. I have no problem with weed, I have problems with an irresponsible population that has little self-control.

Also, please don't assume things about me in frustration. I don't have a perfect education and I work very hard for my grades. In this country we are required to learn ONE language. It makes me sad and angry to see people fail at it. Imagine if we had to learn 3 or 4 as most European countries do?

[lightkun]

Ok im just saying that just because you find something on the internet doesn't make it true. Now I'm not saying that you are right or wrong, just know that there might be the smallest possibility that some websites (un trusted source types like a personal blog) may present opinion as fact. Just be careful to those who do research. Look at trustworthy sources.

[staying_alive]

Ok im just saying that just because you find something on the internet doesn't make it true. Now I'm not saying that you are right or wrong, just know that there might be the smallest possibility that some websites (un trusted source types like a personal blog) may present opinion as fact. Just be careful to those who do research. Look at trustworthy sources.

My above post is from an educational institution's study. They've cited their sources of outside information on the website also. There are no personal opinions in the above quotes, it's all research. This debate over whether or not weed should be legalized is going a bit too far IMO.

[chris4]

FINE you want to go there then let's go down that road.

Show me the facts. Show me how weed is linked to the decline of education. Maybe it could be due to the child not wanting to spell properly. Wait you couldn't see that. Only because to you there must only be one logicalexplaination. That's the problem with most people like you. Let's all link things to something we don't like without and factual evidence. Sorry we are not all gifted with the perfect eduction like you. Sorry our grammar doesn't meet your standards.

My god...I'm indifferent when it comes to weed, but the drug might be something worth trying if your last few posts in this thread are a good representation of your personality.

And please, by all means, contradict yourself even further by posting more unnecessary, uptight posts that are irrelevant to the OP's question.

[lightkun]

My above post is from an educational institution's study. They've cited their sources of outside information on the website also. There are no personal opinions in the above quotes, it's all research. This debate over whether or not weed should be legalized is going a bit too far IMO.

I didn't mean you in particular. In fact, all I understood was that you linked to a page (only really skimmed) it was just a word of caution to anyone who decides to research. That's all.

[Rutherford The Brave]

My god...I'm indifferent when it comes to weed, but the drug might be something worth trying if your last few posts in this thread are a good representation of your personality.

And please, by all means, contradict yourself even further by posting more unnecessary, uptight posts that are irrelevant to the OP's question.

Fuck you.

[chris4]

Fuck you.

way to prove my point. :rolleyes:

[staying_alive]

way to prove my point. :rolleyes:

You are both acting childish. Let's keep this thread on topic.

[chris4]

You are both acting childish. Let's keep this thread on topic.

true. sorry, OP.

[Filipe]

Weed is unhealthy and contrary to popular belief, it isn't cool. If you actually think you are a "rebel" or some kind of superior person.. You're wrong.. You're just another dealer's bitch who thinks he is in control... Keep lying to yourself dude... Anyone who smokes or drinks is a complete idiot with issues.. It should all be illegal.. They only exist so they can make IDIOTS and IGNORANT PEOPLE addicted so they can get more money... Be a tool all you want. Have fun being "Cool".

[Zazu]

Weed is unhealthy and contrary to popular belief, it isn't cool. If you actually think you are a "rebel" or some kind of superior person.. You're wrong.. You're just another dealer's bitch who thinks he is in control... Keep lying to yourself dude... Anyone who smokes or drinks is a complete idiot with issues.. It should all be illegal.. They only exist so they can make IDIOTS and IGNORANT PEOPLE addicted so they can get more money... Be a tool all you want. Have fun being "Cool".

Trololol.

I will happily smoka cannabis in Holland, and sometimes in the UK, and will consume other hemp products as well. I don't think I'm cool for it, I don't really think anything I just enjoy it ergo I do it.

I also did well in my GCSEs (the UK's standard exams that we're forced to do) and can speak French. I have worked for a private ambulance company (paramedic) for the last 6 months and am going full-time with the NHS in September. I'm generally a pretty decent person, hold the strong view that everyone in this world is equal (we're all human beings after all) and can easily get on with and communicate well with anyone. I've completed an advanced driving course and can drive on blue lights. I kinda try to help save people's lives from the job I do. I'm not at all igronant and have full control over when I smoke / what I smoke. I don't buy from dealers. Also, I've taught kid on a voluntary basis in a school, I've worked in a pre-school voluntarily, I've helped to train medical staff, I'm a qualified youth leader. I'm hardly a fucking waste of space as you seem to be trying to label me.

Unless you have any evidence to the contrary, I would say that I'm not a waste of space, I'm not stupid and that I do a pretty good job in life.

Oh also, weed has had absolutely no detrimental effect to my health. Weed / hemp oil has improved my asthma and also some other aspects of my health.

Lastly, you're way too bloody generalised with what you say. I'm nothing like the stereotype you've presented above.

[staying_alive]

Weed is unhealthy and contrary to popular belief, it isn't cool. If you actually think you are a "rebel" or some kind of superior person.. You're wrong.. You're just another dealer's bitch who thinks he is in control... Keep lying to yourself dude... Anyone who smokes or drinks is a complete idiot with issues.. It should all be illegal.. They only exist so they can make IDIOTS and IGNORANT PEOPLE addicted so they can get more money... Be a tool all you want. Have fun being "Cool".

I'm glad you got that out of your system. Now, I'm trying to decide which part of your ridiculous statements I should address first.

You do realize that the 'rebel' thing was cool in the 60s and 70s right? Now we're into the age of superiority complexes (see your post for proof of this). Please don't try to say that people who smoke or drink think they're cooler than other people. I can only speak for myself on this, but I respect others' choices just as they should respect mine (hint hint).

And anyone who smokes or drinks is an idiot with issues? Wow, aren't you just on top of the world. I'll bet you've never done either, which makes you a genius? Do you consider yourself 'above the influence'?

FYI, any business that can get people addicted is doing something right. Look at Fast Food Companies. They're successful because people can't get enough of them and they're cheap. Look at Google. People are addicted to it because it's fantastic.

I'm not a dealer's bitch, actually. If you've been a dealer's bitch before then I can understand why your panties are in a bunch over the issue. However, some of us are more competent when it comes to stuff like this (read: leave it to the big boys).

Your post is offensive because you are acting so ignorant. Why don't you take a trip around the block and then report back on how your mind has opened up. Just because you can't handle yourself on drugs and alcohol like other people (or haven't tried them in the first place) doesn't make you better than them.