Why is everything about sex?

[Billy15]

I very seldom chat on line anymore because when I do add someone, the conversations always turn to sex, pics, porn, videos, cams, j/o and it gets so old because that's not what I'm looking for. All I want is to meet friends, have fun, talk about each others lives, maybe learn something and maybe if I'm real real lucky I might meet some awesome boy that just wants to know me and who totally blows me away but 90% of the time, it's just about sex.

Is it me, am I weird, am I looking for to much, expecting to much, not with the program or is it alright to just be friends without the sex, without strings attached, IDK, I really don't anymore?

I placed this in "teen sexuality" because it is about teen sexuality, it's about how we relate to others and how we handle our sexual urges and our ways of seeking relationships of any kind.

Please don't think I'm some nerd who doesn't like sex lol because that's not true at all and someday I hope to find that special boy who I fall in love with
and make awesome love with (not sex, love) I want happiness and normality just like any gay boy but does every friendship have to be about sex and if it does, then how do you ever find that special boy that just wants to know me
for who I am and not for what they hope to get on line?

Am I being crazy or what, I really want to know because I'm beginning to think that I'm just weird and maybe i'm just out of touch IDK?

[karl]

You're certainly not asking for too much.

[Captor K]

Nah, you're not being unreasonable in what you're asking.

Truth is, people can be horny critters. I, for one, write sex stories all the time. I am on another gay forum, and the few friends I talk to there always want to steer the conversation in a sexual direction. Because I spend lot of time writing or studying sex(uality), I am easily bored when it comes to people wanting to get their kicks in convos. Let's talk about the weather. Let's talk about the bird crap on the windshield. Let's talk about Charlie and Candy Mountain.

LET'S TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOUR DINGDONG!

So no, you're not weird for getting annoyed or frustrated for wanting to have enjoyable, normal conversations that don't involve ball sacks, penises, vaginae, shackles, or God knows what else people are into these days.

My advice is, if these people are beginning to irritate you in this matter, either demand that they stop making everything about sex, or stop talking to them altogether.

[Kaius]

Lol, being honest 9/10 on this site and plenty of others, if you add people from p101 that's what they're gonna be looking for. You get the honest few that are just looking for what you are, but the majority are going to be looking for people to cam with them and share pictures. God knows what the fascination with it is, the best thing to do really is just report it and move on. Though a way to avoid is it is to not add people if you have a feeling thats what they're after.

[Tanner]

Didn't you already make a post about this? Haha BUT I KNOW! it's soo annoying. I mean this site is full of horny ass kids. When all you want is a friend whom you can talk to and help you out, it's hard. But hey, if you need to talk about anything I'm always ere. And this applys to anyone.

[nick]

Not everyone is like that but many are. You're a really good looking guy and you kind of advertise that with your avatar, that's going to get you more attention from the wrong types. I never get pms asking me to exchange pictures or to cam, and I have lots of friends from VT that I can talk to on msn or skype without needing to talk about sex.

[Jacob1993]

No you are not weird and no your not expecting too much.
I feel the same frustration as u do. I very seldom chat anymore either except with maybe 2 or 3 loyal friends, because I run into the same problems that u describe.
I enjoy getting on line and talking about all kinds of other things then just sex.
Im a completely normal horny teenage boy, but there is so much more to life then just sex, porn & pics lol.

Im sure one day you will find that special guy :)
(Im very impressed how u said u would make love to him, not sex).
I hope im lucky enough to find someone with a mature attitude like u

:D

[yoda]

You, you are not weird so don't think like that because thats silly talk there! This is a site that will have teens looking for others for pics, webcam and such which that stuff is weird to me. But there is someone out there for you that wants true love like yourself, and is not all about sex. That time will come my friend. Its what i would like to someone there for me and to totally blow me away, but will have to wait. So patience your good looking and for sure someone will come along=).

[Ender]

I agree. Shouldn't love come before sex? Such a sad world.

[Iron Man]

I agree. Shouldn't love come before sex? Such a sad world.

In this day of age, roofies come before sex. And you are not asking for much. I remember when I first joined VT. I got a whole bunch of people asking me for IM, so I did (not knowing they were pervs asking for pervy, perv shit). I just reported them and moved on. Besides, this is the internet. You are better off making friends in real life that you can talk to and laugh with and all that good stuff and junk :)

[Dorsum Oppel]

I agree. Shouldn't love come before sex? Such a sad world.

Freud proposed that all your troubles in life were repressed sexual desires for your own mother. He suggested that breast feeding provides sexual stimulation to the baby, which is why they do it. Biological philosophy proposes that everything we do is to get a mate and further the race. The nice clothes to attract them, eating and drinking to stay alive in order to have sex, and supposedly even making music and art is a mechanism to attract sex partners.

According to some, EVERYTHING is about sex. They might argue that your post is an attempt to set your self as morally superior and more mature in order to attract a mate.

SEX, EVERYWHERE.

[Dog Desab]

@Coyote: rofl

but idk maybe you are asking for too much because p101 gets a lot of viewers and if you post there pervy people are gonna check you out and what not, so expect a lot of pervs coming your way if you add friends and talk tell/ask them straight away, "what do you wanna talk about?" if they start with any sex-related topic just tell them straight up that you dont care... then report if you want... i dont wanna be a hypocrite but i do talk about sex but only in a joking way like most real friends do and i hope other people dont see this as a teen online dating site or something like that cuz its not!!!! its a help site for teens :what:

[Tanner]

Freud proposed that all your troubles in life were repressed sexual desires for your own mother. He suggested that breast feeding provides sexual stimulation to the baby, which is why they do it. Biological philosophy proposes that everything we do is to get a mate and further the race. The nice clothes to attract them, eating and drinking to stay alive in order to have sex, and supposedly even making music and art is a mechanism to attract sex partners.

According to some, EVERYTHING is about sex. They might argue that your post is an attempt to set your self as morally superior and more mature in order to attract a mate.

SEX, EVERYWHERE.


You actually have a really good point. A young girls dream is almost always to grow up and get married to some babrie like man. Correct? Yes. Not very often do you hear young kids wanting to grow up being homeless people. Home less people are less diserable to mates. If you think about it with out even thinking people pick the stronger fitter mate, to pass the traits along. Like animals. But were not animals. We still have this instinct to pick the stronger.

Idk how this got here, but you have a good point. Life is about growing up, finding a mate, passing on your genes and dying. So yes techinally life is about sex. But some of us are more evolved than this. Like some of us here.

[taylor115]

you are so right everything i say ppl take it to the dirty side of life is say things that i never even imagin that they could take it to a sexual side some ppl are so immatur and i think its just puberty but no one (well almost no one) can just go on a friend making website with out getting ppl saying oh c2c or i got some pix which i think can get really annoying

[The Joker]

Coyote: Freud is sooo right. :P

Billy: Most kids on this website are going through puberty, and can't help talking about sex. No you aren't asking for too much out of guys in general, but on this website, considering that there is a lot of sex related stuff on here, yeah you are.

[MisterE]

What your asking for is not crazy at all, wanting to get to know people for who they really are is a great thing, and i am shur there are so many people out there that want to get to know you also! and from personal experience you are an awsome guy to get to know (:

[Billy15]

Thanks Stew and thanks to all you guys who took the time to make me feel that I'm not some weirded out teen who doesn't like sex lol because that part just isn't true and morally superior (YIKES) that's even less true.

The problem with dumping your heart on a forum like this (and I LOVE!!! VT) is that it's so abstract, just another bleep in space and without really knowing me (like some of you do) there is no way to understand my feelings, my personality, where I come from, my fears and most important my heart, who I really am as a person, I'm not judging.

I'm not morally superior or think Im better then anyone here and Im certainly not downing VT or really anyone here but was asking a question in general regarding my experience and how they apply to me only. When I came to VT, I was a lost dude
who has even thought about suicide (that's how down I was) and this place, you guys
have pulled me out of that mess with your advice, your kindness and yup some really really cool and valuable friendships, so THANK YOU.

It's true, I guess I do live in this fairy tale world when it comes to my heart, love, relationships and dreams but I don't want to change that because that's where my heart lies and where I truly live, it's all I have to hold onto and it's also what I believe in.
I think the point I was trying to make (and probably screwed it up badly) is that if you want to meet me, if you want to be my friend, if you want to really get to know Billy, then just ask me, lets talk, just talk.

I have very strict and very old fashioned parents who were both raised in Tennessee and who think that the computer and everyone on it is evil and out to get me lol (crazy no doubt lol) but that's my life. I live in the most homophobic area in the world so nope, I don't have a cam, I don't have nude pics and I certainly don't have the freedoms that many of you have but hey, I'm a good person and worth getting to know if your looking for real and a good friend but that's all I have to offer.

And yes (like everyone else) I am no different then any of you. Hope that made a tiny bit of sense.

[Dorsum Oppel]

I know that all of MY troubles extend from sexual desire for my mother.

In case no one knew, I wasn't serious about any of that.

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

Wow, that was very mature. I think it's good that you have such views, you'll find a surprising amount of people think the same.

So many people go into relationships for sex, and that's something I've always explained to people I date, I let them know, they shouldn't plan on getting anything for a long time. If someone won't go out with you, because you won't have sex with them, don't worry about it, they're not worth your time or love.

As for people talking about...You could ask them not to, I sexually joke around my friends, but I never sit there and hound with sex questions.

[jimmy-magic]

william, i have so much respect for you mate, your not afraid to express your opinion you seem very intellegent and independent and who makes there own decisions. i really respect you for that mate keep it up, dont get sucked in to being the stereotypical vt member, and o ly talkin about dick sizes and what not, good stuff will im proud of you mate

[DanielBoy]

I agree bro, you are not asking for too much. Allot has to do with sex, guys minds are wired that way, I hate to say it. Testosterone will make us all have those urges, and we all find them difficult to control. The reason it works with girls is because they are not wired this way, they want love and to know whom ever their partner ends up being, he will be there to take care of her and her child, so they make you work for it. There really isn't any system of courtship set in place for gay or same sex relationships, so a teen who is already raging with hormones, will normally lean towards sex. I also hate to say this, but most of the people you meed on the net are only interested in just that, so it is harder to get a Long Distance Relationship or a Long Distance Friendship set up with just the grounds of getting to know each other and friendship.

Here is a good tip though, if someone messages you, 9 times out of 10, that is all they want, so you gotta be the one to put it out there, the getting to know each other not the sexual stuff. I did so and am talking with someone who I have shared more with than even my closest friend; I find it easy to be open with someone who I don't really know in person, because I don't have to worry about them spilling stuff at my school or to people I know. I enjoy talking to him, and hope after some time, we might find ourselves in a relationship. I don't find the sexual stuff important because if I REALLY need to do something, I got places I can go for it on the internet. I guess what I am saying, you need to make the move, because the people on the net who haven't sent you messages are not interested in the sexual stuff. Good Luck, and I hope you find someone! :D

PS: Sorry for the long winded reply, had allot on my mind about the subject.

I hope I helped. :D

[Icarus7]

I very seldom chat on line anymore because when I do add someone, the conversations always turn to sex, pics, porn, videos, cams, j/o and it gets so old because that's not what I'm looking for. All I want is to meet friends, have fun, talk about each others lives, maybe learn something and maybe if I'm real real lucky I might meet some awesome boy that just wants to know me and who totally blows me away but 90% of the time, it's just about sex.


I just want the same :)


Is it me, am I weird, am I looking for to much, expecting to much, not with the program or is it alright to just be friends without the sex, without strings attached, IDK, I really don't anymore?

You are not weird. There are a lot of guys like you, including myself, who want to meet new ppl. It just take some time. Meeting friends Is like going to buy tomatoes. When you go to the grocery store, there are thousands of tomatoes but if you want a specific good shape, good color, tomato, it takes some time to choose it. :P hahaha



Please don't think I'm some nerd who doesn't like sex lol because that's not true at all and someday I hope to find that special boy who I fall in love with
and make awesome love with (not sex, love) I want happiness and normality just like any gay boy but does every friendship have to be about sex and if it does, then how do you ever find that special boy that just wants to know me
for who I am and not for what they hope to get on line?

I love the "make awesome love not sex" quote. You almost made me cry.:whoops: as i told you before, you are a very special person so I wish you find the person you are looking for.


Am I being crazy or what, I really want to know because I'm beginning to think that I'm just weird and maybe i'm just out of touch IDK?
Nope, You are not "out of touch", like i said beofre, you are not weird or anything. Just take you time and you will be plenty of friends... Just look how many users have replied to this post :)

Nah, you're not being unreasonable in what you're asking.

So no, you're not weird for getting annoyed or frustrated for wanting to have enjoyable, normal conversations that don't involve ball sacks, penises, vaginae, shackles, or God knows what else people are into these days.

My advice is, if these people are beginning to irritate you in this matter, either demand that they stop making everything about sex, or stop talking to them altogether.

Agree!!

Not everyone is like that but many are. You're a really good looking guy and you kind of advertise that with your avatar, that's going to get you more attention from the wrong types. I never get pms asking me to exchange pictures or to cam, and I have lots of friends from VT that I can talk to on msn or skype without needing to talk about sex.

Nick mentionts something really important. Your avatar. You are a pretty good looking guy according to your picture and that can cause you some "unwanted" messages from other VT users looking only for instant pleasure. Maybe you should change your pic. If someone really wants to be your friend they could talk to you like any other member.In my case I have meet wonderful ppl here in VT. and i havent uploaded any pics :P:P. Of course , at the beginning i got a lot of message asking for pics and stuff but i just ignored them. Most of them finnaly gotted banned :D so Dont worry.

What your asking for is not crazy at all, wanting to get to know people for who they really are is a great thing, and i am shur there are so many people out there that want to get to know you also! and from personal experience you are an awsome guy to get to know (:

CanadianCool just said it. There are so many ppl out there that want to meet new friends, talk about nature, birds, biking, 4wheels, etc...and I am one of them :D:D and according to canadiancool, he is in too. So see, you have 2 friends you can talk about everything. Not just sex lol...:yeah:

[Bard95]

You are not asking for too much at all:) You, in fact, are asking for the right things that should come first in a friendship, relationship, or whatever else u want to call them. Most guys(girls too) on here are just horny people. And nick brought up a good point, you are a good looking guy:D so you will get messages that ment in a totally diff. direction than you want. But i only know you a little bit, but you are one cool kid that knows what he wants. And what you want, is the right stuff.

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

I completely agree with this.
Waaaaay too much emphisis on sex in generally nowadays, and not just on the internetz v.v

EDIT: Then again, I'm pretty pervy myself, but I usually reign it in if I'm having an actual conversation with someone....
unlike some of my friends who can't help but to say "that's what she said" every other sentance

[wtblife]

Because I'm coming to the end of my teen years I'm kind of depressed about how little sex I've had tbh, but I still know what you mean and get annoyed by the same sort of people.

At every party I go to there seems to be at least one girl that won't get off my nuts even when they know I'm gay. I try not to overreact so I'll sometimes go with it for a little bit, but it takes a lot of personality for me to want a girl and I wish they'd just leave me alone. I've spent entire parties dodging certain girls because they kept trying to make moves on me and it ends up being pretty stressful.

Anyway, I hope you find someone as I haven't had any luck yet. Stay confident in yourself and don't get pushed into anything.

[smoothietime]

orly?

[misery_business]

My goal from sunrise to sunset everyday is to fuck a guy. I will spam the internet with sex until I get it.

well this isn't the place to do that so please just stop.

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

orly?
Post edit fail d:

And Wtblife, is it really depressing just because you haven't had a lot of sex? I mean, quite a lot of people wait until they're married to have sex, some vow to never have sex, but you're upset because you're about 1/4 of the way through your lifespan and haven't had enough sex?
d:
Sorry if that seems a little biting, but to me, that's a really odd thing to get upset about.

[VTry007]

Because I'm coming to the end of my teen years I'm kind of depressed about how little sex I've had tbh...


That's an interesting experience because there were over 100 boys I could have messed with in high school. They were well networked.

I remember one time I went with a straight friend to the gym's change room to look for his watch after classes were over. There was a "model" gay boy naked in there. Just him.

The next day another hot gay was naked in the gym change room, ready to join the model boy in the showers. The next day a bunch of boys showed up. The next day there was a stream of boys entering the change room to get naked and shower together.

The gathering was closed down shortly afterwards and the change room locked.

I thought your experience was interesting. You were attending parties where girls were all over you. Do you think you networked well with the people you wanted to meet?

[wtblife]

That's an interesting experience because there were over 100 boys I could have messed with in high school. They were well networked.

I remember one time I went with a straight friend to the gym's change room to look for his watch after classes were over. There was a "model" gay boy naked in there. Just him.

The next day another hot gay was naked in the gym change room, ready to join the model boy in the showers. The next day a bunch of boys showed up. The next day there was a stream of boys entering the change room to get naked and shower together.

The gathering was closed down shortly afterwards and the change room locked.

I thought your experience was interesting. You were attending parties where girls were all over you. Do you think you networked well with the people you wanted to meet?

I honestly keep to myself most of the time and have a hard time talking to the guys I'm interested in because I don't know their preferences and I'm not all that confident.

There has really only been one guy I was interested and knew was gay, but I ended up having to move shortly after and never saw him again. I knew he was interested in me as well because he was checking me out while I was changing and I acknowledged him, but he was on his way out and it wasn't the most comfortable situation for me. My friend that I was there with said the guy was looking for me another day (my friend goes to the gym like every day), but I won't be able to visit that state any time soon so I didn't bother trying to get his number.

[VTry007]

I honestly keep to myself most of the time and have a hard time talking to the guys I'm interested in because I don't know their preferences and I'm not all that confident..


If you are gay and you want to meet gays, there is a network out there in the highschool. They all know each other.

Guess how many of those over 100 boys in my high school were out? Absolutely NONE. Not one.

A lot of the girls in a grade would kind of have a hunch. Some guys would think someone might be gay. But everything was between themselves.

And they were able to find new members for their group. They added to their network. I think it was easy for me to discover it because someone said I was hot, another called me a model boy. But those boys were looking for others.

In other words, all the gays in your highschool were networked and even busy seeing if a good looking guy like you was also gay so that they could get together with you. They were looking for you all that time.

Some gay activists say you should be out. These boys liked things the way they had it. No one knew if they were gay. They would get together when they wanted to. They were able to find other boys to include into their group.

Once two guys beat up a gay boy in the school washroom. The victim found it very easy to recruit a bunch of the boys to beat up the two victimizers in a park at night. The victim even mentioned around me, "I need to buy a bunch of balaclavas." I'm sure he found someone to go to the store to buy them, so no one knew who was organizing things. I think I got blamed for it in the end, even though I had nothing to do with it - fine.

These boys had figured out how to deal with things. How not to jeopardize their friendships at school with everyone. How to get together. How to keep things a secret. How to protect themselves. And, yes, even how to find "you".



There has really only been one guy I was interested and knew was gay, but I ended up having to move shortly after and never saw him again. I knew he was interested in me as well because he was checking me out while I was changing and I acknowledged him, but he was on his way out and it wasn't the most comfortable situation for me. My friend that I was there with said the guy was looking for me another day (my friend goes to the gym like every day), but I won't be able to visit that state any time soon so I didn't bother trying to get his number.

I think if you had stayed and were able to get together with this one boy, you would have discovered - eventually, depending on your interest - all the others in your school.

I think that approach is better then where everyone knows who is gay, therefore everyone knows there are gays in the shower so you can't take a shower anymore and you certainly can't complain about it.

I very seldom chat on line anymore because when I do add someone, the conversations always turn to sex, pics, porn, videos, cams, j/o and it gets so old because that's not what I'm looking for. All I want is to meet friends, have fun, talk about each others lives, maybe learn something and maybe if I'm real real lucky I might meet some awesome boy that just wants to know me and who totally blows me away but 90% of the time, it's just about sex.

Others have pointed out that this is the reality. In fact, it's the same reality among the adult gay community.

In the adult gay community, there is always a few people complaining that all they want is a relationship but all they get are one-night stands.

So much of the gay life is centered around sex, and most relationships that are formed really do not last long. Better to find that out now than later.

You are only 15. You should seriously consider if this kind of life is really what you want.

Hey, why don't you think about being in love with Jesus instead of being in love with boys? Just a thought. :cool:

[josh93]

I agree with you and all the other posts. It seems lilke now a days people just want to talk about sex and crap like that and it just sometimes seems pointless and the people that want to talk all about sex and trading pictures and cameing are the ones that will one day probaly go to jail and or end up on that MSNBC dateline to catch a predator and its not always that and i Do Agree with you Billy. You are not asking for much man. Trust me i wish everyone was like what you ask. But there arent that many people that are like that these days for what it seems. You will hopfullly find the person that you really Admire just like we all of us that are on VT we will find some one we admire.

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

VTry007:
The first 2/3 of your post was pointless, everyone knows the gays have gaydars.
...
that was a joke by the way. XD

But all I really got out of your post was that you think gay couples are only together for the sex.... which is totally not true, there are tons of gay couples who stay together, just because they're both males doesn't mean they can't fall in love. :p
And you also implied that by being gay and living a gay lifestyle, you can't be Christian, an opinion, quite frankly, I find insulting.

[wtblife]

Well I've been out of high school for a while, I just saw that guy at a gym. Also I'm pretty sure most high schools are nothing like that, mine definitely wasn't and I can't even imagine something like that existing... There isn't an issue with respect, there just aren't that many gay guys although there are guys that will do stuff at parties and I've been with a few "straight" guys.

[VTry007]

I've been with a few "straight" guys.

I think if you would have followed those guys, you could have found a network of guys doing the same thing.




Everyone here is talking about wanting love and a relationship. But so many end up where there's just sex on peoples' mind.

Like I said in other posts, everyone needs closeness. They are designed that way.

Obtaining that closeness comes through your ability to form and maintain close relationships with people through communications and interaction.

Developing that ability is part of your personal development that happens when you are growing up.

I'll give you a life's lesson. "Living is loving and God is love."

[fractalflame]

certainly not!

[ravel]

I have the same thought pattern I want to find someone I want to find someone likes me for me and is not in for the sex It is horrible how so many people are going in only for the sex =/ I wouldnt mind trying it out before I get to "The One" how ever I would have to get to know person and It would not be in some rush to it. I think thought I might wait though.

what I am trying to say is I dont think it is a problem to have sex but it should not be the reason you get into the relationship for it should only be done if you really like the person and plan to be with them or try to unless you some day find you are not ment to be or are just make sure it is not the reason/focus.

[adaman1]

I very seldom chat on line anymore because when I do add someone, the conversations always turn to sex, pics, porn, videos, cams, j/o and it gets so old because that's not what I'm looking for. All I want is to meet friends, have fun, talk about each others lives, maybe learn something and maybe if I'm real real lucky I might meet some awesome boy that just wants to know me and who totally blows me away but 90% of the time, it's just about sex.

Is it me, am I weird, am I looking for to much, expecting to much, not with the program or is it alright to just be friends without the sex, without strings attached, IDK, I really don't anymore?

I placed this in "teen sexuality" because it is about teen sexuality, it's about how we relate to others and how we handle our sexual urges and our ways of seeking relationships of any kind.

Please don't think I'm some nerd who doesn't like sex lol because that's not true at all and someday I hope to find that special boy who I fall in love with
and make awesome love with (not sex, love) I want happiness and normality just like any gay boy but does every friendship have to be about sex and if it does, then how do you ever find that special boy that just wants to know me
for who I am and not for what they hope to get on line?

Am I being crazy or what, I really want to know because I'm beginning to think that I'm just weird and maybe i'm just out of touch IDK?

Thanks Stew and thanks to all you guys who took the time to make me feel that I'm not some weirded out teen who doesn't like sex lol because that part just isn't true and morally superior (YIKES) that's even less true.

The problem with dumping your heart on a forum like this (and I LOVE!!! VT) is that it's so abstract, just another bleep in space and without really knowing me (like some of you do) there is no way to understand my feelings, my personality, where I come from, my fears and most important my heart, who I really am as a person, I'm not judging.

I'm not morally superior or think Im better then anyone here and Im certainly not downing VT or really anyone here but was asking a question in general regarding my experience and how they apply to me only. When I came to VT, I was a lost dude
who has even thought about suicide (that's how down I was) and this place, you guys
have pulled me out of that mess with your advice, your kindness and yup some really really cool and valuable friendships, so THANK YOU.

It's true, I guess I do live in this fairy tale world when it comes to my heart, love, relationships and dreams but I don't want to change that because that's where my heart lies and where I truly live, it's all I have to hold onto and it's also what I believe in.
I think the point I was trying to make (and probably screwed it up badly) is that if you want to meet me, if you want to be my friend, if you want to really get to know Billy, then just ask me, lets talk, just talk.

I have very strict and very old fashioned parents who were both raised in Tennessee and who think that the computer and everyone on it is evil and out to get me lol (crazy no doubt lol) but that's my life. I live in the most homophobic area in the world so nope, I don't have a cam, I don't have nude pics and I certainly don't have the freedoms that many of you have but hey, I'm a good person and worth getting to know if your looking for real and a good friend but that's all I have to offer.

And yes (like everyone else) I am no different then any of you. Hope that made a tiny bit of sense.

Billy:You are an incredibly mature boy for your age, and I only wish that more young men thought the same way you do. I wish I had more people in my life like that. Like has been said though, that fact that you get so many pervs may be that you are an extremely handsome young man, and your picture shows it. Just be more discreet on that... but also, It sounds like whoever you end up with is going to be the luckiest guy in the world, due to your care of people rather than sex. I also know what it is like to live with homophobes all around. I am a Christian, and trust me, Christians can be such homophobes (I am Bi).... But yeah, I am definitely considering taking you up on that talking/friendship offer. Just remember that no matter how different (or not different) you are, never change that, because it is you as a person. Changing it too much can rob you of the special attributes that make you, you. Out of everybody here on VT i've met so far (I'm pretty new on here), you, by far, have impressed me the most to change bad aspects of myself. Thanks man, you are extremely inspirational, and that is something to be admired... Stay cool Billy, God Bless...

[DarkHorses]

Yeah, I know what you mean. A lot of people online are obsessed with that kind of thing. I used to go on websites where it seemed like that's all people talked about and did. But it's all about finding the right website. I've made some good friends online who I don't talk to about that kind of thing. Just keep trying out different websites and different people, eventually it pays off.

[Billy15]

WOW Adam thank you for what you wrote because sometimes when I post stuff I go back and read it and I think wow, you sound so lame but when I read replies like yours (and several others to) it makes me feel like I'm not strange and Im not alone and I just wanted to say thanks.

[neigh]

i agree with (BILL 15) most chat room all they chat is sex - there is lots more thing s to chat about then sex --

[fossil]

I might be a very emotional guy. But for these such things i will say that you are right.

Firstly, see, I can have feeling for people i have just met them, but that is just attraction to someone...
Secondly, i am a lover, so i almost love all of my friends, less or more, but i love them.... it can be understand as friend's love....
Third, i want to love a person, who is very close to me, soul-mate.... boy, girl, i can love both.... soul-mate is a soul-mate.... but most of the time i see my self with a boy, a close friend, who i care for him, very important to me, and my being... not that i cannot experience that with a girl, but i think there is a difference.... i find boys more closer to me, maybe because i am a boy.... i have the chance to get boys know better than girls... but i wouldn't like to discriminate either....

But boys as boys, can be very naughty.... the testosterone is doing the most of the job... so in the puberty.... i find most of the straight boys, violent... cannot generalize but what i see is that and i get sick of that.... I cannot say that i am gay, but i am scared of being straight.... it can be very difficult to manage when you have nobody who might be closer to you and understand you.... i mean i have tried but no worth, just more hurts....

So i will tell my story, an experience of loving someone, but wrong one....
after the failure on seeking for someone who might love you, i say i will rest for some time.... but suddenly, there he was.... i will make it short, some other time i will tell you the whole one... i wasn't that attracted to him, and just saying hello because of my another good friend (but he is straight, and i respect that, maybe because he is the best friend i ever met, who is straight) but as time was going, we got friends, then closer, then i told him some secrets, he did it, too. And after a while i felt in love with him.... i was ready to do everything it is needed for him.... he did call me to come at his place... and me, stupid, blinded by the love got there... it was ok...we had some drinks, uozo were called, and after two little glasses i got very horny, and he was too.... so we were fooling around for 2-3 min... the both wanted to touch eachother, so.... finally, we got naked, we were jacking off each-other, i was trying to tell that i love him, and tried to kiss, but he was not that interested for it so we proceed jerking... after a while we got in his bedroom and lay down on the bed.... i said to him let me jerk off you, actually i was doing that, but i wanted for him to relax and enjoy.... so i jerked with passion, with love, it was like i was making love on my own.... so i told him that i wanna suck his penis, he agreed... i did it, he cummed, i gently got him cleared... i wasn't expecting more, it was awesome for me.... he then just jerk a little bit off me, .... and left me in his bedroom, then we got out with our friends..... but i was still in love and did the worse mistake ever.... but i won't talk about it.... i will just say that i was fucked up, and it was hard for a couple of months,

But i was in love with him... now i am not...

So it isn't everything about sex, it can make a lot of problems just thinking of it...

i am more careful now, but i try to be more open on these topics..... because sometimes i need to....

And for normal topics, why not, every time, i am a normal guy who is interested in many things, hobbies, sport, Life, way of living, friends..... i find them more interesting, than these sex topics, because there is always something new, and these sex ones are always the same.... maybe just like an info, but it is enough to make that talk only once and get eachother, sexuality etc. I think i already told what i feel about it... maybe i want to have 100 posts :D so i do the surveys :) , but try to find something new for me....

So after all happened, i am not in the mood to talk about sex and similar....

The Life brings many thing, some more valuable than others, and we can choose witch is more important to do or spend time on it....

But always be careful, never know what will happen.....

[Billy15]

All of my irl friends are straight and maybe it's because I am gay but sometimes I just feel so different then most guys my age because with them (and many many net conversations) the common denominator seems to be sex and I guess I just want more then that.

Maybe it's our culture, maybe it's the internet (access to anything) maybe it's raging hormones, maybe it's peer pressure, keeping face, being cool, accepted and maybe (IDK) it's the norm, the right way to be and I'm the one who is totally out of touch, wanting to much, expecting to much but my views seem natural to me, real and I value them, so right or wrong, I have to follow my heart and be true to myself.

To me (and maybe I am wrong) but being gay does not equate to having sex or bedding someone just because I can. To me, being gay means having the ability and desire to fall in love with another boy/man, sharing your lives and trying your best to make each other happy. Not for what you can get from them but because you truly do love them, respect them and want to be with them. Sex (I prefer making love) is a huge part of any true relationship and like anyone else, I so very much look forward to that relationship, that love, that special boy but the difference is, I guess I am willing to wait until it is real (even if it ends up being a net relationship if that is even possible) but at least I am being true to myself and what I believe in.

Hope that didn't sound to boring or Corney and please, that is only my opinion and how I feel about myself only because I row my boat, not yours lol.

[fossil]

I think we (people) need more love in our lifes.... and do everything with love, even the smallest thing we will ever think of....

[welcome_to_chaos]

I agree compleatly. the fact of the matter is that some people really do have some honest questions about puberty but there are some questions that are way out of line and only out of curiosity. i do belive that its gotten out of hand and the vt rules should change to include anything thats deamed inapropirate. most people on here are just looking for a place to be excepted and to find an outlet for their problems and coming across that can just make it worse

[Daniel_]

Oh dear god, the great wall of text.

Well I'm just gonna speak for myself, and say that sex to me isn't the like... Well, put it this way.

You say everything is about sex, and I say sex is about love.

I.E = Everything is about love...
Erm.. Does that make sense?

[xHunterXloganx]

I dont think its to much to ask for, but because MOST teen males are perves, well, most teens are pervs, thats why, people are just not normal, there is no normal

[fossil]

Oh dear god, the great wall of text.

Well I'm just gonna speak for myself, and say that sex to me isn't the like... Well, put it this way.

You say everything is about sex, and I say sex is about love.

I.E = Everything is about love...
Erm.. Does that make sense?

It makes a lot of sense, and i think most of us posting in this topic agree on that...

[Daniel_]

It makes a lot of sense, and i think most of us posting in this topic agree on that...

Thanks, because I was really gonna read it, saw the great wall of text, then my dyslexia kicked in.

=/

[willrod]

I've noticed that too- like, I'll meet a nice guy and such, everything's cool, but eventually it turns to sex. But I think that's just about guys in general- I hear str8 guys talk about sex at school ALL the time. You just can't fight biology- guys are pretty much going to talk about it a lot- though you do mellow out a bit as you get older- I used to be a MAJOR perve when I was like 13 LOL (though I still think about sex kinda frequently).

[wtblife]

To me (and maybe I am wrong) but being gay does not equate to having sex or bedding someone just because I can. To me, being gay means having the ability and desire to fall in love with another boy/man, sharing your lives and trying your best to make each other happy. Not for what you can get from them but because you truly do love them, respect them and want to be with them. Sex (I prefer making love) is a huge part of any true relationship and like anyone else, I so very much look forward to that relationship, that love, that special boy but the difference is, I guess I am willing to wait until it is real (even if it ends up being a net relationship if that is even possible) but at least I am being true to myself and what I believe in.

I agree for the most part although loving a man also doesn't make you gay, there are tons of straight bromances out there, you pretty much are what you consider yourself to be imo. The kind of relationship I want is like a really close friendship, but also including sexual attraction on both sides. Like a few of my old friends I was so close with that they would let me cuddle with them or even spoon because it was so comforting when I was feeling down. I've never felt so comforted or loved in my life and that is the kind of feeling I want.

I had a dream recently that reminded me that love is the most important thing to me. I was sitting on sort of the edge of a bed with a guy sitting between my legs and kind of laying against my chest and our heads resting on each other. I was just holding him with both my arms wrapped around his sides and resting near his stomach. Wish I could find a picture of the position I mean, often people are held like that by their lover to comfort them. It's basically like hugging them while they're sitting between your legs I guess, but you're relaxed and using eachother for support.

Sex can be about love, but isn't always. I personally don't enjoy sex without love. Don't have to be dating them or anything as that doesn't matter to me, but I have to feel an attraction to their personality and love them to a degree.

[brennaluvv]

I know how you feel. I'll get invites from people on Yahoo and they'll start asking me perverted questions. It's just getting really old. I don't think you're asking too much in the least! I want the same thing, I'm so tired of these people sticking their heads into my sex life when I don't know them, it's none of their business how far I've gone with a guy or how many times I masturbate in a week.

I'll be talking with someone and the next second they'll ask me something about sex and it just totally turns me off to even considering being friends with them.

[Vandaar]

Unfortunately, Thats how people are these days =/ It gives sex a bad name and its not a bad thing but if you cant get to know someone and hold a conversation without sex coming up, thats pretty sad

[Thylacine]

I'm not gonna write a big speel the people who have posted before me on this topic are right. Unfortunately guys these days are horny buggers and horniness dominates their lives. I went on a internet chat room the other day and I asked someone what do you do on here? and he "I look for sex but I never get it". After our conversation continued he admitted that this was pretty pointless. So then why did he do it because of hormones. But Billy your right there is more to life than "the act of sexual intercourse" and some people do want to talk about other things that arent related to "the act of sexual intercourse" I'm one of them. I want to talk about life in general not just sex. I do feel quite isolated where I live and I feel that I can't be myself so talking to others is a way of doing this and like you I don't necessarily want to talk about "the act of sexual intercourse"

[Billy15]

Sex is fine and Im not dogging anyone who likes sex because it's natural and most guys our age, their hormones are raging and their trying to find answers and that's cool but, like the other day, someone sent me a message and wanted me to describe my "weenie" lol and I'm like, where the heck did that come from ya know? Maybe if I was dating him and we were in an on line relationship or something like that (never tried it) and I really really cared about him in that way I might answer that and might even ask a few questions of my own lol (embarrassed) but to just get a message asking me to describe my "weenie" lol, NO, Im not going to do that. Does that make any sense?

[shartalot17]

the world is becoming very sex driven

[fossil]

I actually can see that ^^^ almost all my friends all the time talk something related to sex...

I love sex too, but i also have Life to live....

[Vandaar]

Sex is fine and Im not dogging anyone who likes sex because it's natural and most guys our age, their hormones are raging and their trying to find answers and that's cool but, like the other day, someone sent me a message and wanted me to describe my "weenie" lol and I'm like, where the heck did that come from ya know? Maybe if I was dating him and we were in an on line relationship or something like that (never tried it) and I really really cared about him in that way I might answer that and might even ask a few questions of my own lol (embarrassed) but to just get a message asking me to describe my "weenie" lol, NO, Im not going to do that. Does that make any sense?

Wow thats just creepy, Im glad Im not like that haha

[Fall3nNotForg0tt3n]

Yea thats creepy.... men and my friends never talk about sex they joke about it rarely we just hand out too have fun. its hard to get to know people over the internet so good luck with that.. its to easy to make up something that you dont know if there tellin the truth. I just like reading the stories people have to tell....
Sex is overrated, theres more to life than sex. you just need to find people who are willing to talk to you about themselves.

[Lostboy]

Well for one, hormones are flying all over the place :/ but your not a lone. I would rather talk about life, and things that changed it. I find it fascinating listing to other peoples problems cuz I learn im not the only one with the issue so i don't feel so alone. there is more to life than sex. altho it is fun and great at times. but it can complicate things. as you know. I would rather be comforted by love than sex any day. I think you will meet your dream guy. You sound like a positive, intelligent person and that goes a long way. were lucky to have VT.