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Joey15
July 31st, 2010, 10:07 PM
Hey I really think this argument has to be had. The constitution was set up so that there was a national government to over see things and the states would have a majority of the power. But look at us now. States have little to NO power, thats not what our founding fathers wanted. And its sure as HELL isnt going to be stood for anymore. Especially since the national government just overturned the Arizona law. That is the national government taking there power to far and I think that the states should be given there power back!! what do you think?

Amnesiac
July 31st, 2010, 10:35 PM
Something called the civil war happened. States don't have power anymore, and that's the reason why. Yes, the constitution leaned in favor of states' rights, but the civil war changed that permanently.

Immigration law would be better handled by the federal government, so that states don't have conflicting laws about it. Having each border state have a different policy would do nothing to help the immigration problems we have now.

Joey15
July 31st, 2010, 11:19 PM
"Immigration law would be better handled by the federal government, so that states don't have conflicting laws about it. Having each border state have a different policy would do nothing to help the immigration problems we have now."
Can I ask you what exactly the national government has done for our illegal immigration problem of roughly 8,000 people coming in everyday

ShyGuyInChicago
July 31st, 2010, 11:24 PM
"Immigration law would be better handled by the federal government, so that states don't have conflicting laws about it. Having each border state have a different policy would do nothing to help the immigration problems we have now."
Can I ask you what exactly the national government has done for our illegal immigration problem of roughly 8,000 people coming in everyday

How does the issue with illegal immigrants need to be fixed? What is the right thing to do?

dead
July 31st, 2010, 11:52 PM
You know there thousands of kids parents who are illegal immigrants, right?

Amnesiac
July 31st, 2010, 11:56 PM
"Immigration law would be better handled by the federal government, so that states don't have conflicting laws about it. Having each border state have a different policy would do nothing to help the immigration problems we have now."
Can I ask you what exactly the national government has done for our illegal immigration problem of roughly 8,000 people coming in everyday

I never said "oh, the federal government is so great at everything". No. If we let states individually control immigration policy, it would lead to conflicting laws across the border. Immigrants would escape into the states with weaker or "nicer" policy rather than the states with stricter policy. The federal government should lay immigration policy to keep everything consistent and equalized. You also have to remember that the federal government handles foreign relations, not the states, so having a government talking to and negotiating with Mexico about immigration problems and then states actually controlling it would make no sense whatsoever.

Disco Jones
August 1st, 2010, 12:34 AM
Immigration is definitely a federal issue.

darkwoon
August 1st, 2010, 05:25 PM
Hey I really think this argument has to be had. The constitution was set up so that there was a national government to over see things and the states would have a majority of the power. But look at us now. States have little to NO power, thats not what our founding fathers wanted. And its sure as HELL isnt going to be stood for anymore. Especially since the national government just overturned the Arizona law. That is the national government taking there power to far and I think that the states should be given there power back!! what do you think?
Just because it isn't what the founding fathers wanted doesn't mean it wouldn't be the best choice nowadays.
Don't forget that in more than two centuries, life dramatically changed. Just think for a second about communications: high decentralization was needed because at the end of the 18th century, it would have taken days, if not weeks, to transmit orders back and forth from one coast to the other. Nowadays, the distance doesn't matter much anymore for the decision process.

Besides that, having a stronger federal state is not necessarily a bad thing - having a single common rule for everybody can help reducing internal conflicts between states, for example.