Suicide..

[Jess]

What are your views on suicide?

A man and his family were just in a horrible accident, he is paralyzed from the waist down and his family was killed in the accident. He has lost the will to live from the loss of his family. He gets out of the hospital months later and hangs himself.

Did he have the right to take his own life?


I don't believe it's right or wrong, I think morality has no place and people have little reason to judge but I fully support the right to have absolute control over your life, including determining your own death.

[Church]

God doesnt want us to end our own lives but under some circumstances I can see it like a terminal illness where you are slowly dying etc.

[Death]

That's assuming that you believe in God. Therefore, that argument isn't necessarily valid (at least not all the time).

[Delusion15]

It depends of course. In this case he i hate to say it doesn't have a will to live and his family is dead so it's his choice.

I mean who does it impact in this situation. Now as i originally read the family was still alive and he was paralyzed (i'm sorry i skimmed lol) in this scenario i would not support him killing himself as it would leave the family without a father and husband however in the end it still is his choice.

My point being that under specific circumstances (left alone, life support, burden) i "support" it (don't want to sound like i recommend them killing them selfs) while on others (hmm Gambling debts?) i would advise against it but sadly in the end it still is his or her choice.

[huginnmuninn]

if the suicide doesnt affect anyone besides the person then i dont mind them killing themselves

[Magus]

I prefer other people ending my life rather than dying from overdose or hanging my self.

If I were that guy, I wouldn't do it. I would have just lived on and become a motivator to others. I know that guy's story is depressing, but if he would have survived it, then he would have saved others.

[The Dark Lord]

Suicide is a cowards option, although if I was incurably or terminally ill, I wouldn't want to suffer.

[SneakBrain]

I'll not suicide under any circumstance if I was suffering it have to end somewhere

[Death]

There sometimes comes a point when life is just no longer worth living. However, a lot of the time, I think people commit suicide when they still have potential in life. So it can be hard to say.

[The Dark Lord]

There is a bill being proposed from Scottish MSP Margo MacDonald, advocating assisted suicide. I support it although it would difficult trying to set rules for how disabled and sick you actually are

[Antares]

The only circumstance I can fathom for it to be a good thing is if they are avoiding pain or will die soon.

Maybe even dieing for the benefit of family or loved ones something like that (like in the movies where they sacrafice themselves for the "greater good" or whatever).

Otherwise, the suicide I hear of, especially from teenagers, is selfish and wrong in general.

People aren't relieve that you killed yourself, they are hurt.
Some think that it saves others from being hurt or burden but it is the complete opposite.

So in general, don't kill yourself please :P

[Dog Desab]

okay i was the only to vote right but i didnt think about and didnt read jess' post so my vote is under certain circumstances but i also feel people have a right to their own life so if they want to end it they are allowed and no one else should have a say in it at all... i know its kind of a bad way to think but im not the type to change a persons mind if they've made a decision to commit suicide

[Sage]

Completely fine. Most people suck anyway.

[Blood]

A man and his family were just in a horrible accident, he is paralyzed from the waist down and his family was killed in the accident. He has lost the will to live from the loss of his family.

He should've dealt with it.

Do I think suicide is wrong? No. It's your life, do what you want.

[Magus]

The only circumstance I can fathom for it to be a good thing is if they are avoiding pain or will die soon.

In the Japanese Warrior Code system. You can kill yourself to retain your honour and to avoid shame; it is also known as Seppuku ritual.

This act was last seen during the World War II.

[Possible Spoiler]
If you have watched the movie 'Apocalypse', you can see how the man who got poisoned while chasing the protagonist ended up slitting his arm in order not to become a burden upon his peers.
[Possible Spoiler]

[Amnesiac]

If you're suffering great pain from some incurable disease or terrible injury, euthanasia should be an option. But for those who have an opportunity to live a better life, there's no point. Suicide isn't some small thing — you only live once.

[Insanity Fair]

Unless my suicide would save thousands of lives and make me famous for doing so I would not. Even under terminally ill circumstances. I would fight it till the bitter end. But to each his own, I guess.

[deadpie]

It's their life, so it should be their choice if they want to live or not. If you don't like their decision, deal with it. People that attempt suicide aren't trying to be selfish, they're usually looking for an escape (an escape not given to them thanks to humans of society). They don't always mean to hurt everyone by their death - everyone else is just collateral damage in my opinion.

Still. Selfish or not, it's there life. You shouldn't have the right to decide how their story ends.

Everyone dies one day or another. I'd rather be my own demise then someone killing me, old age, or some dipshit illness I catch.

[drew.]

They make meds for depression.. suicide is illegal in the US, therefore, it is wrong.

[Dorsum Oppel]

They make meds for depression.. suicide is illegal in the US, therefore, it is wrong.

Medication is like being fed coping skills on a stick. Once you drop the pills, you have no ability to live your own life.

Also, the idea that something is wrong because it is illegal is a powerful kind of stupid.

[The Batman]

I don't see anything wrong with it besides that it hurts some people around you.

[Jess]

They make meds for depression.. suicide is illegal in the US, therefore, it is wrong.

How is it illegal?

I also agree with deadpie

also, during the Cultural Revolution, if one of your family members commit suicide, you aren't allowed to mourn for him/her. that was the case for a girl's friend in this book called the Red Scarf Girl. just saying that back then in China...the Chinese considered suicide a sin or whatever

[Insanity Fair]

They make meds for depression.. suicide is illegal in the US, therefore, it is wrong.

Illegal = wrong now?

Fuck that.

[ShatteredWings]

Under rare, occasional circumstances, suicide is an option. If your death is going to save lives (in which its not really suicide but moving on) or you're GOING to die there is absolutely no way to save you (euthanasia), I'm not going to say you have to live.

Otherwise, you have a reason to live. There will ALWAYS be someone who's going to be hurt by your death, and if you're at rock bottom, the only way things can go is up.

[Obscene Eyedeas]

suicide is illegal in the US, therefore, it is wrong.

I can't even begin to go into how wrong that statement is. I mean ya...... just no. Illegal does not always mean its wrong. It's a persons own life let them end it if they so choose.

[Dorsum Oppel]

I can't even begin to go into how wrong that statement is. I mean ya...... just no. Illegal does not always mean its wrong. It's a persons own life let them end it if they so choose.

Also, suicide isn't illegal. It's kinda hard to arrest a cadaver.

[walpoler93]

i personally dont see why anyone would want to kill themself

[ShatteredWings]

i personally dont see why anyone would want to kill themself

There are plenty of reasons that can drive a person so insane that they would want to kill themselves. Remember you're on a forum whoes main focus is help and advice for generally untreated psychiatric issues.

[Sage]

i personally dont see why anyone would want to kill themself

That's rather narrow-minded.

[INFERNO]

I consider suicide as the very last option someone has although people may take this option even when they have others, they just don't take them. This option also nullifies any future chances they have for success in life and defeating the problem at hand.

If someone is in immense physical pain or about to die very soon from an illness or severe injury, then I'd support it if the person wants it as long as they're in a fit state of mind and there truly is next to no chance for them.

They make meds for depression.. suicide is illegal in the US, therefore, it is wrong.

Suicidal actions aren't always a result of depression. Besides, many psychotherapies have shown to be just as effective.

Are the police going to haul the corpse into a courtroom or interview room to question it to see if it's guilty of suicide? I'd imagine it'd be rather amazing for the corpse to be found not guilty when they actually did commit suicide. Although I would say, parole boards would be very hard-pressed to let any of the corpse prisoners go on parole :lol: .

Also, something being illegal does not make it wrong. Something is considered illegal usually because of society's values. If someone is found guilty of voluntary manslaughter of a person in an act of self-defense in order to save 10 people from murder, I fail to see how that's wrong.

Your argument is simple-minded because it's from a simple-minded person.

[Camazotz]

Victims of suicide leave anyone they left behind in mourning and pain and grief. There aren't many cases that suicide is the best option, yet people will do it anyway. I guess everyone has there right to life, and if they choose to end it, so be it. But all options should be considered before making such a serious decision.

[Amnesiac]

They make meds for depression.. suicide is illegal in the US, therefore, it is wrong.

Pssht, importing chewing gum into Singapore is illegal. That doesn't mean it's morally wrong. Whether something is "wrong" or "right" is an opinion. I could say "ceiling fans are wrong" and there'd be nothing you could say, because that's my personal opinion on ceiling fans.

Depression meds don't always work, or for people without health insurance, aren't always available. Suicide is a person's last option when they're absolutely sure they would be better off dead than continuing a painful life. It's hard accepting the fact that people are so horribly depressed that they willingly take their own lives, but it's real, and it happens every day.

[TheMatrix]

i think that ''illegal suicide'' is one of those ''looney laws''.
for example:
''you cannot go barefoot in texas without $5 permit''.
unless the cops get reeeeeeeealllllly bored, they won't give a crap.
besides, what will the cops do? beat a dead man? that might relieve stress, but it won't help enforce looney laws; just inspire somebody to put it on youtube...

[Obscene Eyedeas]

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