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SneakBrain
July 24th, 2010, 10:20 PM
A conservative member of parliament for the German state of Saxony, said it is unfair and unsustainable for the taxpayer to carry the entire cost of treating obesity-related illnesses in the public health system.
"I think that it would be sensible if those who deliberately lead unhealthy lives would be held financially accountable for that," Wanderwitz said, according to Reuters.
Germany, famed for its beer, pork and chocolates, is one of the fattest countries in Europe. Twenty-one percent of German adults were obese in 2007, and the German newspaper Bild estimates that the cost of treating obesity-related illnesses is about 17 billion euro, or $21.7 billion, a year.
Walter Willett, a professor of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health, described the idea of a fat tax as "not humane." He told AOL News that lifestyle is not the only factor in obesity, with both genetics and urban environments playing major roles.
"It's not fair to tax somebody just for being obese," Willett said. "Most people who are obese would prefer not to be so."
Health economist Jurgen Wasem called for Germany to tackle the problem of fattening snacks in order to raise money and reduce obesity.
"One should, as with tobacco, tax the purchase of unhealthy consumer goods at a higher rate and partly maintain the health system," Wasem said, according to Germany's English-language newspaper The Local. "That applies to alcohol, chocolate or risky sporting equipment such as hang-gliders."
Others are suggesting even more extreme measures. The German teachers association recently called for school kids to be weighed each day, The Daily Telegraph said.
The fat kids could then be reported to social services, who could send them to health clinics.
Willett identified improving children's diets as one of the most effective ways to deal with obesity and spiraling health care costs.

INFERNO
July 25th, 2010, 07:12 AM
Any sources? Ignoring the lack of a source, my comments.

Out of all the ideas and statements presented, I agree the most with Dr. Willett's.

First one has the words I'm sure are going to cause a mess of "deliberately lead unhealthy lives". I question what the implications of these words mean. It could mean those with a genetic, physiological condition beyond their control that is responsible for their obesity would not get charged tax while others who don't have an uncontrollable illness, are charged the tax. Or, taken more broadly, if someone does some exercises, do they get lower taxes? If someone just started going and maintaining their diet better, do they no longer have to pay the tax or not as much? The wording of the sentence is just begging for trouble.

The third statement from Wasem seems to imply a tax everyone pays. For example, hockey and kick-boxing can be risky sports too so shouldn't they get the tax? Alcohol is not only in alcoholic beverages but also in certain mouthwashes and hand sanitizers. Neither have anything to do with obesity yet should they too be charged? So many things can be argued to be unhealthy, might as well just say everyone pays the taxes. Even cars, because getting hit by a car that either kills someone or injures someone is bad and can cause unhealthyness by inability to exercise as much.

Weighing children is just stupid. It ignores the differences in muscles mass, bones, and everything else. It assumes we're all a blob of fat shaped differently, which is incorrect. Besides, weight fluctuates during the day. If it's after lunch, all kids are going to be heavier. If a student is near the benchmark for obesity and is weighed after lunch when they weigh a bit more, but in a few hours are no longer obese, it's stupid.

Sage
July 26th, 2010, 01:34 AM
Das ist nacht gut. Nacht gut et all.

Nathaniel
July 27th, 2010, 06:33 PM
The parents of these overweight children need to be in health class just as much as their children do. Not that the OP cares though, because he is banned! :P

The Dark Lord
July 29th, 2010, 05:15 AM
I completely agree with the idea. Smokers cannot have lung transplants, but obesity is treating by the NHS, it is double standards