AMD or Intel

[Elscire]

i'm gonna get a custom computer near the future when windows vista comes out, should i get an intel processor or stick with AMD? intel has a faster speed but AMD is more fit for gaming. which one should i get? i have a 75% in my gut that i want an intel becase of the Dual cores that runs on at least 3.2 gigahertz.

[Skhorpion]

Yet another AMD vs Intel lol.

OK, Intel has the higher clock speed yes but Athlon 64/X2/FX procs do double the instruction per clock cycle than intel procs do. Athlon * procs also run a lot cooler than any current intel out. Athlon * procs have the memory controller built onto the processor instead of on the motherboard so your getting lower RAM latencys than any intel system.

In short, go AMD.

[Elscire]

yeah i thought so, my brother keeps pressuring me to go intel dual-core 2
dunno because since we never had an intel my brother tells me to get it.

[Aηdy]

I am 100% for AMD, I have a Sempron and i think its brilliant :D ive also used an AMD 64-Bit and that is extreamely quick. Definately go for an AMD, they do run at lower clock speeds, but that means they run cooler making them able to run more efficiently.

[Skhorpion]

but that means they run cooler making them able to run more efficiently.

Overclocking is always fun too :)

[Hyper]

Surten reasons which I cannot reveal I suggest you get an Intel if your a bit bright with computers and can make sure you dont get attacked then get AMD

[bean-from-ender-books]

i have an amd in my laptop and amd in my computer and i love them lol i think my old comp which was from like 2000 or 1999 was amd also so i have to say amd

[mr. self destruct]

I have an Athlon 64fx in my "windows box" and it kicks major ass, and has worked way better than the P4 i had in my old one. Should run vista great.

[Aηdy]

I have a slightly OC'd Sempron:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/11/62374/cpu.JPG

[bean-from-ender-books]

my amd sempron in my desktop is a 3100 but mine isnt oced

[Aηdy]

I only changed the FSB by like 5mhz lol... havent had time to play about with the bios yet :P

[Skhorpion]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/omgwtfbbqh4x/procspecs.jpg

Sorry bout res, too lazy to change it.

[kil0]

has anyone used a new Core 2 Duo yet for a prolonged amount of time, they are up to 20% faster than AMD X2s, and intel is promising 4 cores by the end of the year.

even though AMD has had great CPUs for quite some time doesn't mean that they can't get de-throned, as of right now, the Core 2 Duo is the fastest, so if preformance is all that you are concered about, then go Intel Core 2 Duo. if you want a good proc, for a very nice price, go for an X2.

[bean-from-ender-books]

kilo intel is for fags therefor u addmitted ur a fag

[kil0]

kilo intel is for fags therefor u addmitted ur a fag

http://forumspile.com/Die-ElmoSuicide.jpg

[Aηdy]

I hope you both get benned soon because you are both idiots. (not you anthony)

AMD pwns. end of.

[0=]

F...f...f...four cores!?!?!?!?!?!:eek: I gotta get me one of those.:wub:

[Kiros]

Please read all of this - it might enlighten you ;)

But trust me, AMD is indeed greater than Intel. There are many reasons, but they've already been stated dozens of times within this forum. A recent development simply corroborates my point: AMD has produced the AM2 socket, which has 940 pins. The major benefit from this is the complete compatibility of DDR2 RAM, which runs faster, cooler, and more energy efficiently than DDR RAM. Now, AMD also has dual-core already available (such as the X2) and quad-core will be available in 2007.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_13368_13369,00.html?redir=CPSW51

Oh, by the way, since AMD processors run better than Intel processor at even lower speeds, this means you get much more out of over clocking - which I strongly warn against for hardware and basic technology novices.

Anyway, I say definitely go AMD and find a nice AM2 motherboard to go with a Athlon 64 X2 (AM2) and some nice DDR2 RAM on TigerDirect.com.

With my last two (semi-long) notes, I would like to explain (once again) AMD's number system... Because AMD processors *get more done* with one cycle than Intel, they have a lower clock rate than Intel processors. Does this mean that AMD is slower than Intel? Well, let me use this analogy. Say you and your buddy want to go on a bike ride, but you don't agree to use the same court. You choose to ride around an actual, full-length race track while your buddy wants to ride around his drive-way. Now, for every 1 of your laps, your buddy does 35. Does this mean that he goes faster? Not at all. Since he has to do much less each lap, he could do more in the same time that you do one, BUT your buddy has to make more turns than you and it slows him down a little. Within an hour's time, you travel 8 miles and he only travels 5 miles. You do more than him with less laps. How does this all relate to the processors? You are an AMD processor. Your buddy is an Intel processor. The laps are the cycles of the processors. The distance traveled is the actual work (calculations, routing, etc.) that has been done.

So, to show customers the equivalency of AMD power to Intel's power, AMD came up with their number system. The number shown (ex: 4400+) is the equivalent Intel speed multiplied by 1000. The plus sign means that it potentially has more power than that because each AMD processor is tested and sold underclocked - to minimize heat and power consumption. This means that an AMD Athlon 64 4200+ has the same power as an Intel 4.2GHz (or even higher) - though it's a shame Intel can't even get up to that clock speed. The FX number system is basically the same, with two exceptions. The FX number (ex: FX-57) is the Intel equivalent speed multiplied by 10. There are no plus signs in this number system to minimize complications. This means that an AMD Athlon FX-62 is actually as powerful as an Intel 6.2GHz processor, however, Intel seems lacking in the 6GHz section :P

[Skhorpion]

To add to Kiros's post, I believe the A64's do 12 calculations per cycle while the P4 does 6. The A64 does effectively double the work a P4 would at the same clock speed.

[Elscire]

[jaw drops listening to Mr. Kiros's wise words]
whoa, thats cool because i never heard of that. but the only problem left is what type of motherboard do you guys think is best like which brand? my brother says to get gigabyte since my asus only lasted me a year

[Aηdy]

msi are pretty good, tho ive got an ASUS K8V-Pro and its been pretty good so far.

[Skhorpion]

I've had my ASUS board for a long time now with no problems. If you want performance go with any DFI mobo.