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Junky
July 13th, 2010, 02:38 PM
Oakland's police chief is making some dire claims about what his force will and will not respond to if layoffs go as planned.

Chief Anthony Batts listed exactly 44 situations that his officers will no longer respond to and they include grand theft, burglary, car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism. He says if you live and Oakland and one of the above happens to you, you need to let police know on-line.

Some 80 officers were to be let go at midnight last night if a last-minute deal was not reached. That's about ten percent of the work force.

"I came her e to build an organization, not downsize one," said Batts, who was given the top job in October.

That deadline has been extended to 5 p.m. Tuesday.

Here's a partial list:

* burglary
* theft
* embezzlement
* grand theft
* grand theft:dog
* identity theft
* false information to peace officer
* required to register as sex or arson offender
* dump waste or offensive matter
* discard appliance with lock
* loud music
* possess forged notes
* pass fictitious check
* obtain money by false voucher
* fraudulent use of access cards
* stolen license plate
* embezzlement by an employee (over $ 400)
* extortion
* attempted extortion
* false personification of other
* injure telephone/ power line
* interfere with power line
* unauthorized cable tv connection
* vandalism
* administer/expose poison to another's

Negotiations are going on at Oakland City Hall in the mayor's office.

Batts said the 80 officers slated to be laid off - mostly new officers - are "pretty sad and pretty depressed," and those feelings are shared by the Police Department as a whole.

The Oakland City Council voted June 25 to eliminate the positions to help close the city's $32.5 million funding gap. According to the city of Oakland, each of the 776 police officers currently employed at OPD costs around $188,000 per year. Most of the officers who will be affected by the layoffs were on the streets of Oakland when Johannes Mehserle's involuntary manslaughter conviction caused riots last Thursday.

The sticking point in negotiations appears to be job security. The city council asked OPD officers to pay nine percent of their salary toward their pensions, which would save the city about $7.8 million toward a multi-million dollar deficit. The police union agreed, as long as the city could promise no layoffs for three years. No dice, says city council president Jane Brunner.

"We wish we could offer them a three-year no layoff protection we just can't financially. It would be irresponsible of us," Brunner said. The city agreed to a one-year moratorium on layoffs, but it is not enough for the union.

The problem is money. In the last five years, the police budget -- along with the fire department budget -- have amount to 75 percent of the general fund. After years of largely sparing those departments the budget ax, now it appears there are few other places to cut.

These are the last hours of negotiation and Brunner is hopeful that the city and police will find some sort middle ground.

"It's been very good conversation and not a whole lot of grandstanding." Brunner said. "There's actually real conversations. Each side understands the problem," she said.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Suffer-These-Crimes-in-Oakland-Dont-Call-the-Cops-98266509.html

Kind of ridiculous that people can't call the cops to report a burglary

lamboman43
July 13th, 2010, 03:59 PM
Wow, I'm sure not moving there. Seems like it is going to be hell soon. Good luck Oakland.

deadpie
July 13th, 2010, 04:04 PM
Officer! Someone robbed my house!

Does it look like give a shit? I got doughnuts to eat.

ShatteredWings
July 13th, 2010, 05:29 PM
Officer! Someone robbed my house!

Does it look like give a shit? I got doughnuts to eat.

Exactly! Let's enforce the sterotype of a shit cop....


This has got to be breaking a few laws

SneakBrain
July 13th, 2010, 05:50 PM
What they mean is "you come to us and report it we wont come to you" but some of them are really serious, I dont think this is a good idea

Iron Man
July 13th, 2010, 05:54 PM
Officer! Someone robbed my house!

Does it look like give a shit? I got doughnuts to eat.

^This. The State of California is in great debt, but devoting funds to trouble areas must be done.

Junky
July 14th, 2010, 12:44 AM
It's not that cops don't want to enforce them, its that they do not have the money to hire enough cops to enforce the laws.

Sage
July 14th, 2010, 02:01 AM
Hot damn! Time to dust off my old running shoes. I've got a crime spree to attend to.

INFERNO
July 14th, 2010, 04:46 AM
Some of the crimes from the partial list are understandable why they're on that list: if the department is going to be cut, then some of the listed crimes take a lot of man power, there would be few officers to other crimes. A few of the other listed crimes are pretty minor so with a reduced force, they want to focus their attention on more significant crimes than the annoying neighbour blasting music too loud. Some of these can be dealt with easily.

The e-mail policy seems good in a way because the crime can be reported faster and you don't need to go down to the department, file the complaint then wait for an officer to come. Seems like a good idea to me but I'm at a loss for why it doesn't occur for all crimes. They have the radio for all crimes, so why not have the e-mail for all crimes? It seems odd having it for only certain crimes while others don't have it.

Zephyr
July 14th, 2010, 05:24 AM
That's ridiculous. The point to being a cop is to protect and serve. Some I can understand why they'd stop if they downsized, but some, that's unacceptable. Treat the community bad, and the community will treat you bad. It's like the cops in my home town, nobody respects them because they'd rather pull you over under false pretenses just to check your insurance than investigate a legitimate rape and blow it off completely: by the way, which has happened before, several times. SHPD = Fail.

mrmcdonaldduck
July 14th, 2010, 09:08 AM
Some of the things on the list are major crimes. Oakland police department really has failed on this one. If i lived in Oakland id probably complain. But tim has a good point, lot a people will start commiting crimes

Junky
July 14th, 2010, 12:02 PM
I understand that you wouldn't call 911 for some things on that list that don't need immediate police intervention, but come one Burglary, Theft, Grand Theft, Grand Theft Dog (wtf :confused: ), interfering with power /phone lines, and vandalism need an immediate police response for obvious reasons.