BP

[The Ninja]

is it really all bp's fault or is it partialy the government and obama's fault.

start the debate.

[Suicune]

It's pretty much everybody's fault. If we weren't so dependent on oil, we wouldn't have these oil rigs out there knowing a problem like this was inevitable.

[Dog Desab]

It's pretty much everybody's fault. If we weren't so dependent on oil, we wouldn't have these oil rigs out there knowing a problem like this was inevitable.

so true and mford i love your avatar of al.

[Suicune]

so true and mford i love your avatar of al.

Thank you. And Al is awesome. :P

[The Ninja]

ok so you think its pretty much everyones fault but who do you think is most responsible

[Suicune]

It's pretty much a tie on that. BP isn't doing anything to fix it, and America is just sitting there waiting for an answer to fall from the sky. I can't really blame anybody over the other.

[Dog Desab]

bp and yea al is awesome but their is this one episode where he gets beaten by statues and i rofl everywhere... back on topic its bps fault for never having a procedure to handle a situation like this and kinda the govts fault too so i say we bomb iran and steal their oil.... jk but both have shouldve had this situation under control...

[Antares]

How in the world is it the government/Obama's fault that there was an explosion on an oil rig?

Basically, its not the governments fault because they really can't control accidents.
I would say that the only thing the government can be faulted for is the low regulation (but then again we have many people that think the government over-regulates so what the fuck).

BP, Haliburton, whoever owned the property is responsible.
They should pay for it to be cleaned up and they should clean it up.
In which case they can't clean successfully, we need to get someone in there that can (in this case the government).

[Aves]

BP is the only group at fault here. No way is it Obama's fault for this. That'd be like saying Obama's to blame for your birthday cake to fall from the ledge of a 30 story building that you put there.. >_>

[The Ninja]

[QUOTE=Regulus;948842]How in the world is it the government/Obama's fault that there was an explosion on an oil rig?

Basically, its not the governments fault because they really can't control accidents.I would say that the only thing the government can be faulted for is the low regulation (but then again we have many people that think the government over-regulates so what the fuck).
[QUOTE]

ok well here we go...

lets start with whats in blue. it's obama's fault because:
1. Do you have any idea how long it took for obama to react or do anything.
2. Obama has been offered so many resources from different countries but completely blowed them off.
3. Yeah it's not acctually obamas fault it exploded but he's the president he needs to guide this country in the right direction.

now for the red. it's the governments fault because:
well my dad told me something about them rating something 3 stars for safety when it really wasnt safe at all. so yeah they could have done something to stop it.

[scuba steve]

[QUOTE=Regulus;948842]How in the world is it the government/Obama's fault that there was an explosion on an oil rig?

Basically, its not the governments fault because they really can't control accidents.I would say that the only thing the government can be faulted for is the low regulation (but then again we have many people that think the government over-regulates so what the fuck).
[QUOTE]

ok well here we go...

lets start with whats in blue. it's obama's fault because:
1. Do you have any idea how long it took for obama to react or do anything.
2. Obama has been offered so many resources from different countries but completely blowed them off.
3. Yeah it's not acctually obamas fault it exploded but he's the president he needs to guide this country in the right direction.

now for the red. it's the governments fault because:
well my dad told me something about them rating something 3 stars for safety when it really wasnt safe at all. so yeah they could have done something to stop it.

well it's a private sector company so it's no wonder Obama took a while to react as it was their own mess and thus at the time it was expected for them to simply handle it.

[SneakBrain]

BP is a British company so not Only the US government who is responsible for that. I think everyone is involved in this somehow, the whole world not just "Obama" beside he is not the dustman he wont go there and clean that sh*t by himself. everyone thinks that if you are the president that mean you have the authority to do whatever you want but its not like that so dont slash Obama next to the government (government/obama) and dont tell me that he field in his promises or some other crap this is a different thing have nothing to do with it.

[The Ninja]

[QUOTE=The Ninja;948871][QUOTE=Regulus;948842]How in the world is it the government/Obama's fault that there was an explosion on an oil rig?

Basically, its not the governments fault because they really can't control accidents.I would say that the only thing the government can be faulted for is the low regulation (but then again we have many people that think the government over-regulates so what the fuck).


well it's a private sector company so it's no wonder Obama took a while to react as it was their own mess and thus at the time it was expected for them to simply handle it.

ok well when he did find out that bp couldnt wipe its own ass he still wasnt excepting any toilet paper from other countries to help clean up the giant ass now know as the ocean.

[The Ninja]

BP is a British company so not Only the US government who is responsible for that. I think everyone is involved in this somehow, the whole world not just "Obama" beside he is not the dustman he wont go there and clean that sh*t by himself. everyone thinks that if you are the president that mean you have the authority to do whatever you want but its not like that so dont slash Obama next to the government (government/obama) and dont tell me that he field in his promises or some other crap this is a different thing have nothing to do with it.

i never said that it was just obamas fault (try not to take that as a harsh comment as it wasnt ment to be) i agree i'd say it is pretty much everyones fault and not soley one person's.

[scuba steve]

BP is a British company so not Only the US government who is responsible for that. I think everyone is involved in this somehow, the whole world not just "Obama" beside he is not the dustman he wont go there and clean that sh*t by himself. everyone thinks that if you are the president that mean you have the authority to do whatever you want but its not like that so dont slash Obama next to the government (government/obama) and dont tell me that he field in his promises or some other crap this is a different thing have nothing to do with it.

it has nothing to do with where the company has it's corporate headquarters. BP is a private sector business meaning that the local government has virtually no effect in the running of the company. the US government, nor the British or any other seat is responsible for this incident, but now they have been dragged in to help clean the mess.

[SneakBrain]

it has nothing to do with where the company has it's corporate headquarters. BP is a private sector business meaning that the local government has virtually no effect in the running of the company. the US government, nor the British or any other seat is responsible for this incident, but now they have been dragged in to help clean the mess.

yes exactly, but everyone is blaming the governments they don't know that BP is not controlled by anyone either then the federals rules people blame the governments because their reaction was slow to maintain it. BP didnt have the experiment to clean that. The government thought that BP spilled it that mean they have to clean after their self because they are the responsible of it. too bad that the government realized that its out of BP control after along time or maybe the damages will be less.

[Antares]

1. Do you have any idea how long it took for obama to react or do anything.
2. Obama has been offered so many resources from different countries but completely blowed them off.
3. Yeah it's not acctually obamas fault it exploded but he's the president he needs to guide this country in the right direction.

Well he didn't do anything initially because it was supposed to be BPs job to clean up.
What could he have done in the early stages, especially when people scream that the government is too involved in everything.

He has been offered resources but do we really need them? BP is heading the clean up, so they supply (keeping in mind a private corporation) the resources needed. And even if the government needed resources, I think the US government has access to resources that they need. For Katrina, its a bit different because a private corporation wasn't heading it and Katrina was much more wide spread.

And now, since he has realized that BP isn't doing very well, I think he is finally guiding the country in the right direction considering that at the time, it was a bit hard to see.
I think the entire American public thought BP would do much better than they did.

[Insanity Fair]

In no way is it Obama's fault. He could do more to fix it. But the fact that it happened is not his fault.

Why are we debating fault to begin with? Pointing the finger at who started it won't fix the problem.

[Dog Desab]

In no way is it Obama's fault. He could do more to fix it. But the fact that it happened is not his fault.

Why are we debating fault to begin with? Pointing the finger at who started it won't fix the problem.

i agree... so we should debate over who should be cleaning it up....

[Jess]

BP, Haliburton, whoever owned the property is responsible.
They should pay for it to be cleaned up and they should clean it up.
In which case they can't clean successfully, we need to get someone in there that can (in this case the government).

I agree. but I don't like offshore drilling....