Kosovo

[JakeRS]

What do you think about Kosovo?
But first check the video and then vote.check next parts of the video as well.
Also before voting find more about UCK or KLA(kosovo liberation army)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rDr85g0upc

[CaptainObvious]

Well based on your biased poll and first post, I think we can all safely guess what you think.

I think that UNSC 1244 does not mention territorial integrity anywhere except in its preamble, and that therefore there is a valid argument that such territorial integrity is not a legally binding principle. Even if it were "legally binding" in the sense of international law, international law is ignored regularly - might makes right in the international arena - which reflects the fact that it is a negotiated outcome that often reflects stakeholders' desires as opposed to overall best outcome.

All of that said, I fully support Kosovo's independence. Serbia's government was responsible for many crimes against humanity - including genocide - visited upon Kosovo's Albanian minority. Those actions delegitimized any claim Serbia might have upon the province.

[JakeRS]

Yes,i agree that that government was killing albanians,but if you did more research you would know that that government was chased away here is a clip showing it.btw lets not forget NATO'S killing and bombing of Serbia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUkoujvF7A

here is another video and this time----- watch----- and then comment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FN33NTMpLU

[CaptainObvious]

Yes,i agree that that government was killing albanians,but if you did more research you would know that that government was chased away here is a clip showing it.btw lets not forget NATO'S killing and bombing of Serbia.

Maybe you and I have already had this discussion, because I'm getting serious deja vu here. In any case, as I said the last time somebody mentioned the NATO bombing, I consider the NATO bombing justified to end the Serbian government's genocide against ethnically Albanian Kosovars during the conflict. It is most certainly unfortunate that stopping Milosevic's insanity required bombing the country, but necessary it was, and also successful.

I know you're Serbian, but I think that you should be blaming the genocidal Serbian leaders like Milosevic and his generals for the loss of Kosovo and all the other bad outcomes from that conflict, not the other states that intervened to stop him. Genocide is unacceptable to the world. When they are capable, countries will intervene to prevent it. It's that simple.

As for your Youtube videos, I don't argue with Youtube videos. Either present their arguments yourself in your own words, or I'll largely ignore them. This is especially true when I'm at work (as I am now) where I can't view Youtube.

[JakeRS]

Dont worry about milosevic,whole country including me hates:D him because hi caused the bombing of serbia

[JakeRS]

I know the whole thread is kinda old but i want to get it running again at least for a while.Now i want everyone who thinks kosovo is deserving to be a country to say something about your beloved Hashim Taci and what dick marty found about him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashim_Tha%C3%A7i#Controversies and have got to mention that i saw this video and it is kinda short but when you see it you will rethink about Kosovo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWOZeX8zlLc.Enjoy

[Azunite]

(EDIT: Had no idea this thread was ancient)

[CaptainObvious]

I know the whole thread is kinda old but i want to get it running again at least for a while.Now i want everyone who thinks kosovo is deserving to be a country to say something about your beloved Hashim Taci and what dick marty found about him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashim_Tha%C3%A7i#Controversies and have got to mention that i saw this video and it is kinda short but when you see it you will rethink about Kosovo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWOZeX8zlLc.Enjoy

Since when is he "[our] beloved"? The fact that I think Kosovo deserved to be allowed to separate from Serbia after Serbia's government attempted to perpetrate genocide upon the Kosovars does not in any way suggest I think every Kosovar politician is great or even good.

[JakeRS]

Since when is he "[our] beloved"? The fact that I think Kosovo deserved to be allowed to separate from Serbia after Serbia's government attempted to perpetrate genocide upon the Kosovars does not in any way suggest I think every Kosovar politician is great or even good.

Have you ever heard about UCK or KLA.Avecourse you havent when you read something about it you can talk to me about this topic...

[CaptainObvious]

Have you ever heard about UCK or KLA.Avecourse you havent when you read something about it you can talk to me about this topic...

Of course I have. But good try on avoiding having to address my argument...