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Perseus
July 4th, 2010, 04:55 PM
All right, so on a website such as Youtube, do you think it is right for companies and all that be able to request a video to be taken down when a song or video from their stuff is shown? Such as you make a video, add a song for effect, and then it is taken down by Youtube by a copyright claim. Or if you make a parody of a show or movie or something, it gets copyrighted because it has the footage and you didn't "ask permission" to use their material. What are your guys' opinions on this. I find it pretty stupid.

Sith Lord 13
July 4th, 2010, 05:25 PM
Parody is fair use, so I disagree with it.

Songs as backgrounds is a lot more murky though.

Antares
July 4th, 2010, 08:05 PM
If its their song, and they own it, they should get paid, therefore it is logical for them to be able to have it taken down.
However, I think there should be exceptions, especially when a person has no financial gain from using it...for instance something on Youtube or for a school project, or something.

INFERNO
July 5th, 2010, 03:12 AM
If someone does their home-made parody, then I think the company has no grounds for getting the video taken down because the company's property isn't being shown and the company isn't being slandered (hopefully).

For getting a company to have their song removed, regardless of whether it should be allowed or not, it seems outright dumb because it's a great advertising method. On videos with a song playing that gets many views, people sometimes ask what is the song because they like it. It's free advertising for the company because they aren't doing any advertising but are getting the rewards.

As to whether it should be allowed, I think it's hard to say a definite yes or no because it depends what the video is being used for and what the maker designed/benefiting from it.

I think there should be exceptions, especially when a person has no financial gain from using it...for instance something on Youtube or for a school project, or something.

How is that going to be proven? If that were the case, then everyone who wants their video up can simply claim it was a school project and it's unpractical for YouTube to contact the school and ask if you are a student doing such a project.

Proving no financial gain is something I don't think can be used because it couldn't be proven very well. Suppose you do a parody or use a song for your home-made video, the company can always argue that whoever has watched that video is likely to have invested in money to see the original video or buy the song. They can then say their profits increased and point to your video as one of the many sources. Of course, a company freely giving away their balance sheets for such a reason isn't going to happen.

Both of your suggestions are effective if it was for a very small group but when there are millions or views from millions of viewers daily, then it's no longer a possible feat.

Perseus
July 5th, 2010, 02:23 PM
If someone does their home-made parody, then I think the company has no grounds for getting the video taken down because the company's property isn't being shown and the company isn't being slandered (hopefully).



On the parody thing, I meant using footage from the movie, etc. Like this. (http://www.teamfourstar.com/)

Aves
July 5th, 2010, 03:11 PM
I think that using songs in a YouTube video shouldn't be copyright infringement. Especially if the video blatantly states that it isn't their song, etc. However, even if you do that, YouTube has a thing where it can identify the song without having to see the video. I think if there is no financial gain, then it's perfectly fine to use whatever.

hrecknoall
July 6th, 2010, 11:42 PM
I think its all in the intent...like if you post a video and act like it's your own or your idea then yeah companies can do that. But if you post a video with a song or an idea and give due credit then it's fine!