Right vs. Left

[kolte]

I support the Left wing political agenda. However, I'm progressive by nature, and therefor accept that in order for the united states to function ideally, there should be both liberal and conservative cooroporation and distribution of power. But more and more the right wing is taking over political majority and showing that they want a polerized and partisan government. not one that cooroperates.

debate!

[Phantom]

I am a mix from both. I am mostly Libertarian which is basicly maximum freedom in everything. Right wing economical freedom left win social freedom. But I am leaning more to the right because of all the people representing the left right now are idiots. I also like the strong millitary and good leadership.

[Phantom]

What happened to my posts?

[0=]

First we need to take the country back from the corporations before we can have reform, then we need to make it so the government is an agent of the people again. We should have equal representation of all political parties based upon how many people support each party, rather than republican or democrat. Everyone should have equal rights, and there should be zero tolerance on discrimination or special treatment based on sex, race, color, or creed. Of course I'd like to be able to be nude without being arrested too. :p People should be allowed to wear what they do or don't want to, when they want, where they want, how they want. Of course I've gone and rambled off topic now. 0:

The president should be decided by popular vote alone, no electoral votes, because those deciding the electorals may have an agenda of their own.

[kolte]

What happened to my posts?
well, you failed to listen to me. When I warned you on many occasions. You also failed to listen to the adminsitrator Kiros, and Alex(redcar). After breif discussions and a unanimos agreement. We decided to do something about your little "ego, additude, whathave you problems". Since you cannot be nice to others, your posts are under constant moderation. Therefor only with an administrative apporval can your posts be seen by the public.

So sorry. But you should learn to respect your neighbors.

[Hyper]

1 The poeple cant be allowed total freedom atleast not in the following 5 centuries.. And if your a bit smart youd see why

2 The government has never been an agent of the people ( What does the government do? Fund.. Where does government get its money? Taxes from citizens industries and so on.. )


Yeah im pessimistic but the government should provide its citizens the best life it can. I doubt that wel see a government that does that in this century but its good to dream :)

[Phantom2828]

I like them both for diffent reasons. I am probably a libertarian, which is freedom in all things left wing social freedom and rightwing economic freedom. We also support a smaller goverment, and less taxes. Right now I am leaning towards rep because all the dems I see on tv right now are dumbasses. I also like the stronger leadership and millitary the reps support. I like the better education and less big corporations from the left.

[0=]

Actually the government was originally created as an agent of the people, but they seem to have taken over since oh let's say around 40 years after it was created, I don't remember exactly when, I'll have to look that up, right now I'm busy doing sound work for a school play.

[Phantom2828]

Actually the government was originally created as an agent of the people, but they seem to have taken over since oh let's say around 40 years after it was created, I don't remember exactly when, I'll have to look that up, right now I'm busy doing sound work for a school play.It IS an agent of the people, let me guess your going to start your corporation stuff right I myself dont like big corporations but we dont want to be facist and take their moeny they do create alot of jobs. If we dont like the person we pick we impeach them we pick who runs and we vote. Do you understand how all this works starting from local to state to federal? If you do you would know that it is still an agent of the people.

[0=]

Hmm then why are they able to keep secrets from us? Why do they have committees that can change a bill after it's been passed, and we have no control over it, why are they able to control every aspect of our lives? Think about it, the government is in charge, not the people, and the corporations are in charge of the government.

[Phantom2828]

Hmm then why are they able to keep secrets from us? Why do they have committees that can change a bill after it's been passed, and we have no control over it, why are they able to control every aspect of our lives? Think about it, the government is in charge, not the people, and the corporations are in charge of the government.LOL here comes the corporations thing LMFAO that makes me laugh everytime. Please go join the other conspiracy theorists that think 9/11 was "staged"

Would you like a TRUE democracy the closest country to that is switzerland. We would have to vote for every little thing, our founding fathers were thinking about this but, people are stupied O YA PEACE!!!! so we have our current system where we have people to represent us except they are EXPERTS not some idiot.

[0=]

I'd like to argue about the intelligence of our representatives...but you'll just call me stupid. Visit the links in my signature before you laugh about what I have to say you ignorant fuck, I'm through arguing with you, all you do is put other people down without providing any proof for your argument. Oh and look directly below this text, you see that arrow pointing to my avatar? Yeah, that's you.

[Phantom2828]

I'd like to argue about the intelligence of our representatives...but you'll just call me stupid. Visit the links in my signature before you laugh about what I have to say you ignorant fuck, I'm through arguing with you, all you do is put other people down without providing any proof for your argument. Oh and look directly below this text, you see that arrow pointing to my avatar? Yeah, that's you.lol oooo somebodys pissed his little conspiracy theroys are crap.:P

I accualy like the alot of the dems policys aside from anything that has to do with millitary its just people like you that make me dispise them. And the idiots on tv that are half retarded.

[kolte]

Phantom, you just gone and done a stupid thing. Your going to be banned. IP just to make sure you don't make another account. I hope your happy, and I hope you enjoy your exile from VT.

[Phantom2828]

Phantom, you just gone and done a stupid thing. Your going to be banned. IP just to make sure you don't make another account. I hope your happy, and I hope you enjoy your exile from VT.What stupied thing? Both popo and me flamed each other around the same amount

[kolte]

You created another account after your first had been altered by an administrator, Kiros. Your behavior is deplorable, and your attitude unacceptable. And even after multiple warnings, you still have not changed your behavior.

Bann requested.

note: your not being banned because of your creation of another account. You are being banned because you are an asshole, that donest respect the rules of this site.

well, you failed to listen to me. When I warned you on many occasions. You also failed to listen to the adminsitrator Kiros, and Alex(redcar). After breif discussions and a unanimos agreement. We decided to do something about your little "ego, additude, whathave you problems". Since you cannot be nice to others, your posts are under constant moderation. Therefor only with an administrative apporval can your posts be seen by the public.

[Grotesque]

That is such bullshit kolte. Why the fuck do any of us have to be nice to one another? A lot of people's problems would be cured if they learned to deal with mean people and become a stronger person. Mean people are in the world and 90% of this site did not join to be great,civilized works of kolte. Get out of your fantasy world and smell the piss in the cereal, dear.

[0=]

And you go fuck yourself, kolte is a great person, you're a little shitstain on the carpet compared to him.

[Grotesque]

And you go fuck yourself, kolte is a great person, you're a little shitstain on the carpet compared to him.

Where in my post did I directly state that kolte was horrible and stupid? I think his idea of banning and reasoning behind the banning were stupid. Kolte is a college student with nothing better to do with his free time than to try creating a philisophic community out of a clan of horny teenagers. I can't believe you have the nerve to return after your ban when you joined vt at the age of 12 and it was apparent that nobody liked you. Now, I've had a rotten day and could continue lashing at you, but you are a waste of my tired fingertips.

[kolte]

Do not fight on my behalf popo. Please. This is not necessary. We should learn to love one another. I don't understand your agressions. You are only digger yourself deeper.

Please, drop this madness.

You do know your talking about somone you have never met OVER THE INTERNET, your knowledge of grotesqe or kolte is weak at best.
- Phantom

[Grotesque]

Digging myself deeper into what? The opposing force? With all great debates sides differentiate. (This is Austin, btw) No one needs to love anyone. I will never see any of you in real life, nor do I plan on paying the money to. I do know that i'm of great intellect, at the age of 14(any age for that matter), and my posts should not be taken lightly. I rest on such a strong structure when it comes to the matters of this forum.

[0=]

This is why everyone hates you Austin...

[Phantom]

This is why everyone hates you Austin...I dont hate him he is just a little harsh most of the time, btw your no better:D

[kolte]

[I dont hate him he is just a little harsh most of the time, btw your no better:D - Phantom

God you guys. locking