The Death Sentence

[Jess]

what do you think of the death sentence? (firing squad, lethal injection etc) I think it is right for people that deserve to die - like murderers. your thoughts?

[Obscene Eyedeas]

I do believe in the death penalty yes but i would argue with you on whether a murder deserves it or not. Frankly it all depends on the scenario at hand whether someone deserves it or not but yes if someone deserves it by all means. Why waste peoples money keeping them in prison all their lives

[nick]

I believe the death penalty is an obscenity and a blot on humanity, I'm very thankful to live in a country where this barbaric practice is no longer carried out. We should be so much better than this "eye for an eye" mentality and the death penalty reduces the law to the same level as the criminal. You simply can not demonstrate that it is wrong to kill by killing.

[Obscene Eyedeas]

I believe the death penalty is an obscenity and a blot on humanity, I'm very thankful to live in a country where this barbaric practice is no longer carried out.

Why? And why are you thankful to live somewhere the death penalty is still carried out i dont see the problem with it.

We should be so much better than this "eye for an eye" mentality and the death penalty reduces the law to the same level as the criminal.

The criminal broke a severe law and the punishment must fit the crime, I see not why if someone kills people for entertainment and ruins the lives of many that they should not see death. Prison isn't as bad as its made out to be but making someone face their mortality having them know whats about to happen well that is what they deserve and by the time death comes for many it will be a relief. It cannot be as you say an "eye for an eye" because like in my suggested scenario they kill multiple people you can only kill them. People must be shown the error of their ways and sometimes we must make examples of others to show people what is completely and absolutely not permitted within society

You simply can not demonstrate that it is wrong to kill by killing.

Yes you can. You show people if you break this law you deserve death, you show them that this act is so abysmal that the only punishment that could in anyway be seen as just is to kill the criminal. It shows people how wrong it is to commit the crime and how that in no way is it acceptable in human society. As for killers it stresses to all the value of human life. Kill one save many showing people they will die for this is also a huge deterent

[nick]

I'm sorry, I cant agree. You're entitled to your view, its one that I know many people will agree with, but to me its just wrong. The whole ritual of state killing, surely the most cold blooded planned killing imaginable, is to me just completely obscene.

What I said is that I'm thankful to live in a country that doesnt have the death penalty. I would be one of those on a vigil outside the prison holding a candle.

[Jess]

you wouldn't want a person that killed so many innocent people to die? :/

[Obscene Eyedeas]

I'm sorry, I cant agree. You're entitled to your view, its one that I know many people will agree with, but to me its just wrong. The whole ritual of state killing, surely the most cold blooded planned killing imaginable, is to me just completely obscene.

What I said is that I'm thankful to live in a country that doesnt have the death penalty. I would be one of those on a vigil outside the prison holding a candle.

Yes you're entitled to your opinion nick but why do you believe it to be wrong? What is so wrong about state killing? What have you based your opinion on? Can you support it with facts or arguments.

[nick]

Yes you're entitled to your opinion nick but why do you believe it to be wrong? What is so wrong about state killing? What have you based your opinion on? Can you support it with facts or arguments.
Its not about facts, its about morality. Its a fundamental question - is it right to take another person's life. For me the answer is no, so that's the end of the matter. "Thou shalt not kill".

[Obscene Eyedeas]

you're argument nick is based on religion and morality. I approached this with logic and have shown you how the death penalty can be justified. Morality or not the decision should not be based on ones emotions, the freedom of all free countries would not have been establishes if humanity based decisions on morality

[deadpie]

Killing people that kill people to show that killing people is wrong doesn't make much sense to me.
Plus, a bunch of people are innocent on death row, but end up getting executed anyways. But I guess that's ok, it's not like they had a family or a life to live.

Penn and Teller: Bullshit, Season 4, episode 3. Go watch it.

[Perseus]

If someone murdered one person or two, I don't think the death penalty is fit, also if they don't have lots of evidence to support that the person is the murderer in the first place. But, I find it when someone has murdered lots of people, they've sacrificed their right to live. No one has the right to judge who lives and dies, true. But, I believe people who've murdered many people are just a waste to try and "correct", especially when you can tell they don't care. Sure, making them live in a celled off room for their entire life is punishment, but it is still cruel.

[Obscene Eyedeas]

Plus, a bunch of people are innocent on death row, but end up getting executed anyways. But I guess that's ok, it's not like they had a family or a life to live.

As i said originally it depends on the circumstances. I believe in society the only way to show people that something is wrong is to use extreme tactics and even then it doesn't work, but yes in some instances its wrong when the person is innocent

[Perseus]

As i said originally it depends on the circumstances. I believe in society the only way to show people that something is wrong is to use extreme tactics and even then it doesn't work, but yes in some instances its wrong when the person is innocent

The death sentence doesn't deter people. Most serial killers don't care if they get killed.

[karl]

Did anyone see the news of the prisoner who chose the firing squad to be executed today? It was in Utah, in the suburbs of Salt Lake City. This form of execution hasn't been used since 1996.

[INFERNO]

The argument of deterance sounds intuitive but results are counter-intuitive. From 1996 to 2008, the US government monitored the murder rates in all states, with and without the death penalty. All of those WITH had HIGHER rates of murder. For example, in Michigan during 2008 (no death penalty), murder rate was 5.4, whereas in Louisianna (death penalty), murder rates was 11.9. HERE (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state).

With the deterrance argument gone to the wind, the next argument is that of morality. For example, keeping Hamilton Howard (aka Albert Fish) alive in prison, in NCRMD or death penalty given what he allegedly did and was convicted of? A guy like him would need excessive psychiatric therapy and probably serve indefinite sentence (more than life sentence) in a forensic psychiatric hospital. The same ruling happened for Ed Gein (i.e. Texas Chainsaw Massacre) and he was put indefinitely in a psychiatric hospital until he died. The morality is whether we should spend the more and more sophisticated tools to try to at least allow those for death row to live a life in a psychiatric hospital or in max security prison?

It also seems much like revenge using Sharia Law of eye-for-an-eye: if someone kills a large amount of people, as a result, a large amount of people (society) have the person killed. It also shows that society is very willing to help offenders of pretty much any crime except when it results in this: society says "be done with it, toss it away" as it's too much of a burden to bother to help/look at.

[Camazotz]

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Like Inferno said, capital punishment does not deter people from committing a crime. We'd like to think it did, but statistically speaking, states with the death penalty have just as much or more crime than those without them.

Morally, if you say it's wrong to kill, it's a contradiction to say, "It's good to kill, as long as that person did something bad." Plus, it costs more to keep someone on death row than it does for a life sentence, seeing how it takes years for an execution to finally take place. Plus, since we can't be 100% sure of the conviction, it'd be unethical to execute a possibly innocent person.

[Jess]

Did anyone see the news of the prisoner who chose the firing squad to be executed today? It was in Utah, in the suburbs of Salt Lake City. This form of execution hasn't been used since 1996. yep I mainly created this thread because of that news

[Sage]

I believe some criminals deserve to die, but so long as I live in a democratic country, I'd hope people don't allow the government the power to decide who lives and who dies. If someone deserves to die, don't put them in jail- Put a bounty on their head.

[JackOfClubs]

I disagree with the death sentence. I believe that someone should be punished for their actions. An eye for and eye doesn't work like that. I think that if someone rapes and kills 5 people, they should rot in a Maximum Security prison cell for the rest of their life, with just the bare necessities. Killing them won't have any effect on them, it's "the easy way out." They certainly won't learn anything from it, and it won't set a good example. It also displays that country/state as a barbaric place, which can't be good.

[jimmycouch14]

I feel the death penalty is correct. If you kill someone then you should give up your life also. Without a life for a life, then the life of the person that has been murdered is meaningless. We only get one chance at this life and I don't beleive anyone else should decide when an innocent life should end. Hang all the murders, they deserve it.

[Ryhanna]

Only in extreme cases. Like if we ever found Bin Laden alive, he should die...

I don't think it's fair to take someone's life for carrying drugs as they do in places like Indonesia.

[Dive to Survive]

I think it depends greatly on the crime. I'm trying to decide if prison is to keep criminals away from people or to help the criminals to become, well, not criminals. If they are going to waste away in prison than I wonder if they wouldn't want to die and stay there. Whether they want to live their life in prison or die and get it over with.

[deadpie]

The death sentence doesn't deter people. Most serial killers don't care if they get killed.

Then executions are obviously not going to do anything to help anyone.

If you're wanting the person to suffer, keep them in jail or put them in a institution.

Jeffrey Dahmer said it himself - " … If I was killed in prison. That would be a blessing right now."

[Sage]

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." -Gandhi
"A witty saying proves nothing." -Voltaire

[The Dark Lord]

I firmly support the death penalty. People like Sutcliff, Tobian and Hindley are vile animals and should be treated accordingly

[Kaius]

I believe some deserve to die, but i also believe that they would be escaping their punishment in doing so.

[CaliKid24]

I believe in the death sentence for the worst criminals(charles Manson for example), and it wood clear up a lot of room in prisons and save a lot of money.

[INFERNO]

I feel the death penalty is correct. If you kill someone then you should give up your life also. Without a life for a life, then the life of the person that has been murdered is meaningless. We only get one chance at this life and I don't beleive anyone else should decide when an innocent life should end. Hang all the murders, they deserve it.

Somewhat long post as always, only need to answer the question in bold (can answer other if you wish).

Suppose in a hypothetical world, much like today's, except the death penalty is used in more places for first-degree murderers who have not gotten NCRMD (legal insanity). Let's say all the US states now support it through the electric chair and firing squad. While in that world, suppose people are really wanting to get the death penalty for repeat offenders who committed severe sexual and/or acts on children. Would you support it? The government decides and it does support it, as do some people. Next, they think about doing this for grand theft auto crimes. Would you support it?

In the example above, that world supported it for first-degree murder and once it's supported nation-wide, why not support it for other similar crimes? If someone committed infanticide, voluntary/involuntary manslaughter, reckless driving causing death, etc..., should those people also give up their lives? If not, then why and how is that different from supporting it for first-degree murder or whatever other intentional murder act? If you do support it, then why not use the same principle of eye-for-an-eye for other violent crimes not causing death but did cause injury?

[Dive to Survive]

I believe some deserve to die, but i also believe that they would be escaping their punishment in doing so.

Im not sure that they would be escaping their punishment. A punishment is to make sure someone doesn't do something again. They won't have a chance to be out of prison so it wouldn't really matter anyway.

[Amnesiac]

I feel the death penalty is correct. If you kill someone then you should give up your life also. Without a life for a life, then the life of the person that has been murdered is meaningless. We only get one chance at this life and I don't beleive anyone else should decide when an innocent life should end. Hang all the murders, they deserve it.

Killing people isn't the job of government (that means wars too, but we all know war is perpetual). Yes, it is "fair", but there will always be too many mistakes, flaws in the judicial system to make it safe. Execution doesn't have an undo button on it. Life in prison does. It would be much more painful to live decades in a locked cell, isolated, than just being killed on the spot, right? Many murderers commit suicide after they do their deeds because they don't want to spend their life in prison. That's just backs up my claim that many criminals fear prison more than death.

[THELARRY2341]

I believe in the death penalty, but not like the chair or lethal injection, because as JackOfClubs said "it's the easy way out". I personally think that the offender should be locked up in almost Holocaust-esque conditions (i.e. very little food, severe punishments for misbehaviour and put to hard labour).

[The Dark Lord]

Killing people isn't the job of government (that means wars too, but we all know war is perpetual). Yes, it is "fair", but there will always be too many mistakes, flaws in the judicial system to make it safe. Execution doesn't have an undo button on it. Life in prison does. It would be much more painful to live decades in a locked cell, isolated, than just being killed on the spot, right? Many murderers commit suicide after they do their deeds because they don't want to spend their life in prison. That's just backs up my claim that many criminals fear prison more than death.

Disagree, I feel that mass murderers should be killed as they are vile animals with little self respect and are stealing oxygen. I don't think prison, particurlarly in Britain where prisoners have cable tv etc, is feared by criminals

[deadpie]

Disagree, I feel that mass murderers should be killed as they are vile animals with little self respect and are stealing oxygen. I don't think prison, particurlarly in Britain where prisoners have cable tv etc, is feared by criminals

Calling one person an animal is pretty much like calling everyone an animal. We all have the capability to KILL, RAPE, and HURT someone in some way. Even if we don't choose to do it, sometimes we think about it. Sometimes we dream about it and dwell on doing it. So we are no better than them,but just exactly the same as them.

[The Dark Lord]

Calling one person an animal is pretty much like calling everyone an animal. We all have the capability to KILL, RAPE, and HURT someone in some way. Even if we don't choose to do it, sometimes we think about it. Sometimes we dream about it and dwell on doing it. So we are no better than them,but just exactly the same as them.

Sorry, I completely disagree with that. I, nor you, are equal to serial killers, I think most people would agree with me

[deadpie]

Sorry, I completely disagree with that. I, nor you, are equal to serial killers, I think most people would agree with me

You totally missed the point.

[Sage]

I'll repeat my point since it mostly seems to be ignored: I do believe certain people are better off dead, but I don't trust the government with the power to decide who. Thoughts?

[Junky]

I'll repeat my point since it mostly seems to be ignored: I do believe certain people are better off dead, but I don't trust the government with the power to decide who. Thoughts?
The government can't run cash for clunkers, why would i trust them with my life. :yes:

[starrburst]

I think whatever someone does they shouldn't be forgiven lightly, but if they have killed a man...then if we kill them for killing the man then are we not just as bad? Then shouldn't the executor be executed...it's a never ending chain. So, no...I think no one deserves a death sentence.

[Sage]

The government can't run cash for clunkers,

That's a needlessly incendiary post (and by that I mean simply trying to rile people up) for something that's completely unrelated. If you want to debate that, posting a new thread would be best. Alas, I would agree that in certain instances (not saying whether I support cash for clunkers or not, it is irrelevant to this debate) the government has run things very well, and if I can't trust them with those things, I can't trust them with my life or anyone elses' either- at least, within our own borders.

[deadpie]

I'll repeat my point since it mostly seems to be ignored: I do believe certain people are better off dead, but I don't trust the government with the power to decide who. Thoughts?

Everyone has opinions on who they think should and shouldn't live, so no matter what, it's never going to be fair.

[Sage]

Everyone has opinions on who they think should and shouldn't live, so no matter what, it's never going to be fair.

Right. So, from a legal standpoint, I am against it, but from a moral or practical standpoint, I am for it. A shame the poll in this thread does not allow for that level of nuance.

[The Batman]

The death penalty is a waste of tax money. I read in my sociology book that states with the death penalty have more violent crimes than states without it and the point of it is to try and get criminals to stop. What we need is harsher prison environments only providing them with necessities.

[Sage]

I read in my sociology book that states with the death penalty have more violent crimes than states without it and the point of it is to try and get criminals to stop.
source plz

What we need is harsher prison environments only providing them with necessities.
You can give them a TV and an Xbox and all that jazz, but ultimately, it's the inmates that make prison hellish for other inmates. There's just a widespread corruption in the entire system that makes rehabilitation exceedingly difficult: Prison society works very much the opposite way normal society does, in that, your social status is based more on how despicable, ruthlessly criminal and intimidating you can be. Most inmates only become worse in prison: They're all bad influences on eachother.

[Scarface]

What we need is harsher prison environments only providing them with necessities.
^This. If you strip them of everything and build more prisons do you believe that more 24hr lock downs with life in prison without the possibility for parole.
While increasing the population of the security than it already is now? Do you think that will help or make them think more about what they did?

The death penalty is a waste of tax money.
Well when it's a "Capital Felony" some believe it is necessary because it may put the other inmates in harms way and is a continuous threat in and outside the prison walls.

[The Batman]

source plz
http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/the-death-penalty-and-deterrence/page.do?id=1101085
and
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates#stateswithvwithout
You can give them a TV and an Xbox and all that jazz, but ultimately, it's the inmates that make prison hellish for other inmates. There's just a widespread corruption in the entire system that makes rehabilitation exceedingly difficult: Prison society works very much the opposite way normal society does, in that, your social status is based more on how despicable, ruthlessly criminal and intimidating you can be. Most inmates only become worse in prison: They're all bad influences on eachother.

I read about that and watched some shows on life in prison. Prison isn't helping with rehabilitating criminals it's mainly a place to shove all the bad people we don't want around.



Well when it's a "Capital Felony" some believe it is necessary because it may put the other inmates in harms way and is a continuous threat in and outside the prison walls.
That's why they have areas in prison where they can keep them from the other inmates. They keep them locked in there and let them out for a certain amount of time a day just to be by themselves.

[Scarface]

That's why they have areas in prison where they can keep them from the other inmates. They keep them locked in there and let them out for a certain amount of time a day just to be by themselves.

Solitary confinement and or 24hr lock down.

[Jenna.]

I believe in it for a number of reasons..do you really want a crazy murderer just sitting in jail, with the possibility of escaping or getting out due to good behavior? Don't tell me it can't happen because it has and you don't know that they'll definitely keep the person in jail forever. Then you have that person loose in the world with everyone else once again. I don't know about you, but I'd much rather see them dead so it can't happen again, as cruel as that may sound.

[The Ninja]

I believe in the death penalty i mean i would rather be put to death than go to prison for life. I think we're doing them a favor, which might not be a good thing but whatever

[Scarface]

I believe in the death penalty i mean i would rather be put to death than go to prison for life. I think we're doing them a favor, which might not be a good thing but whatever

Sometimes however on terms of good behavior after a certain number of years you may I say may have the possibility to request a hearing for parole or even a new trial if new evidence has been found in your favor. I don't think i would ever choose the death penalty.

[The Ninja]

Sometimes however on terms of good behavior after a certain number of years you may I say may have the possibility to request a hearing for parole or even a new trial if new evidence has been found in your favor. I don't think i would ever choose the death penalty.

so you would rather get butt raped on the chance that you might get out rather than just get it over with? we obviously have different views.

[Scarface]

Indeed we do have different views, ALTHOUGH I don't think I would necessarily get "Raped" if you mind your P's and Q's and you just do the shit that you're supposed to. So even if you know you're innocent and at the moment you have no way of proving it you would rather die. Then taking it to another trial and maybe being released?

[The Ninja]

Indeed we do have different views, ALTHOUGH I don't think I would necessarily get "Raped" if you mind your P's and Q's and you just do the shit that you're supposed to. So even if you know you're innocent and at the moment you have no way of proving it you would rather die. Then taking it to another trial and maybe being released?

well if i was innocent than yeah i'd take the life sentence but if i killed 4 people and they had proof and they're was slim if any chance of me getting out than yeah i'd take the death sentence

btw i like your avatar

[Scarface]

Murder is as I have said in a previous post a "Capitol Felony" which in some states is for example: Killing a police officer. Would automatically sentence you to death. I still hold firm, (No pun) that I would take life. I have heard some circumstances of those who do get into programs in the prison, by good behavior and work themselves by earning certain privileges. Then you could appeal. I would take life.

FYI thank you for the compliment ^_^

[The Ninja]

FYI thank you for the compliment ^_^

what is it licking ha ha jk

[Scarface]

what is it licking ha ha jk

It is licking the screen and it's rainbow, but we should stay on topic.

[Kahn]

I voted yes on accident, but I believe that the supposed "death sentence" should be used only on certain occasions. If this criminal killed multiple people he should be given the sentence, yet if this man killed one person then no he should not be sentenced to death. I know that is not the way it works but theoretically speaking of course. I've seen this in many posts and I will quote it once again, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". There is no gain in killing a person over the death of one, rather there is a lesson to be learned by spending your life behind bars.

[The Dark Lord]

The death penalty is a waste of tax money. I read in my sociology book that states with the death penalty have more violent crimes than states without it and the point of it is to try and get criminals to stop. What we need is harsher prison environments only providing them with necessities.

I actually agree agree with the first part of what you same, it is more expensive to kill these people, than to imprison the. I also agree that prison is far too luxerious, in Britain prisons have satellite TV!

However, I don't think you can put a price on justice. If you look at the Moors murders, Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, these people should not be allowed to live. Brady now wants to be released on medical grounds. These people are not fit to live and should not be allowed to.

[The Batman]

I actually agree agree with the first part of what you same, it is more expensive to kill these people, than to imprison the. I also agree that prison is far too luxerious, in Britain prisons have satellite TV!

However, I don't think you can put a price on justice. If you look at the Moors murders, Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, these people should not be allowed to live. Brady now wants to be released on medical grounds. These people are not fit to live and should not be allowed to.
Who are we to decide who lives and who doesn't. We have just as much right to take away their life as they have to take away ours. The point of the justice system is to punish and rehabilitate prisoners while discouraging others to commit crime. Going by the statistics I've provided, it's not happening. We really need to just completely redo the prison system so that it's not harming them more than it is fixing them.

[The Dark Lord]

[QUOTE=Mojo Jojo;929074]Who are we to decide who lives and who doesn't. We have just as much right to take away their life as they have to take away ours. The point of the justice system is to punish and rehabilitate prisoners while discouraging others to commit crime. Going by the statistics I've provided, it's not happening. We really need to just completely redo the prison system so that it's not harming them more than it is fixing them.[/QUOTE

I firmly believe that if you take the life of a human being than you should lose your human rights. Prison simply doesn't work, in most cases rehabilitation is beyond killers. The cost to completely overhaul the prison system, would be better spent destroying the vilest and cruelest of society.

[Camazotz]

I firmly believe that if you take the life of a human being than you should lose your human rights.

All executioners deserve the death penalty then. And then someone has to execute them. It's a paradox. You cannot say killing automatically qualifies you for death because then no one would be alive. And what about soldiers in war? Do all soldiers who do their job deserve to die?

[deadpie]

I believe in it.


You know, in the ROTW room, it's important to explain why you believe in it. So your post is pretty useless in here.

[jimmycouch14]

I voted yes on accident, but I believe that the supposed "death sentence" should be used only on certain occasions. If this criminal killed multiple people he should be given the sentence, yet if this man killed one person then no he should not be sentenced to death. I know that is not the way it works but theoretically speaking of course. I've seen this in many posts and I will quote it once again, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". There is no gain in killing a person over the death of one, rather there is a lesson to be learned by spending your life behind bars.

Adam, I know I’ll never get this out of my mouth right, but I'm just not grasping it.
Say someone intentionally, premeditated, with malice and without remorse kills your mother OR your father OR your sister OR your brother. You are saying they don’t deserve the death penalty.

Now, should they kill all four of them, they do deserve the death penalty. Isn’t all life precious? Why do you think the taking of one life is not worth the death penalty, but taking several lives is? If someone murders my parents, siblings or friends, I want to see that bastard die. Yes I would want to be among the witnesses and watch the fear in that person as they hook him up. I would want to see him squirm; I would want to see the sweat run off his face; I would want to see the same fear in him that he put into the person that i knew. You need to look at this as if it happened in your personal life, not just something you read in the newspaper.

Like I said I won’t get this out right but I think you get my point.

[The Batman]

You need to look at this as if it happened in your personal life, not just something you read in the newspaper.
Actually, you are very wrong there you should never look at something like this from your personal life because that's when you make emotional decisions that won't be based on fact.

[Perseus]

Adam, I know I’ll never get this out of my mouth right, but I'm just not grasping it.
Say someone intentionally, premeditated, with malice and without remorse kills your mother OR your father OR your sister OR your brother. You are saying they don’t deserve the death penalty.

Now, should they kill all four of them, they do deserve the death penalty. Isn’t all life precious? Why do you think the taking of one life is not worth the death penalty, but taking several lives is? If someone murders my parents, siblings or friends, I want to see that bastard die. Yes I would want to be among the witnesses and watch the fear in that person as they hook him up. I would want to see him squirm; I would want to see the sweat run off his face; I would want to see the same fear in him that he put into the person that i knew. You need to look at this as if it happened in your personal life, not just something you read in the newspaper.

Like I said I won’t get this out right but I think you get my point.

If you go back to my first post in this thread, you'll see Adam and I think alike on this matter. Just because someone murders one person, doesn't mean they should get the death sentence. That's too extreme for one murder. And plus, there might not even be enough evidence for that one murder, anyway. But, you can say the same with multiple, too. If someone kills multiple people, then they deserve because they've sacrificed their right to live, in my opinion. They are most likely not going to be rehabilitated because they don't care.

[The Redlight Bandit]

Death sentence should be legalized in every state.

[zebra_]

i dont think it should be allowed. if they have murdered someone, they should live the rest of their miserable life in jail. if they have raped and murdered, they should get their manhood chopped the fuck off, and spend their miserable life in jail. +big bob! cockmeat sandwhich for those fucks who deserve big bob.

[INFERNO]

i dont think it should be allowed. if they have murdered someone, they should live the rest of their miserable life in jail. if they have raped and murdered, they should get their manhood chopped the fuck off, and spend their miserable life in jail. +big bob! cockmeat sandwhich for those fucks who deserve big bob.

What about for female sex offenders who have also killed, such as female rapists and murderers? I know they aren't documented much in the media but they do exist very much, in some cases equal to the rate of males. Also, I'm assuming you mean spend their life in prison, and if so, what is the point of castrating them? It seems to be based only on revenge but is there another reason?

A case to consider is Karla Homolka. Although she is released, part of her crimes included sexual acts, so how should she suffer for those acts?

[Sage]

Death sentence should be legalized in every state.

Why post an opinion on the debate board if you're not going to try to justify it? Why should it be legalized in every state? Do you trust the government with the power to decide who can live and who can die in every state?

[Awesome]

If someone killed someone, that person could no longer see the world, meaning the murderer should not be able to see the world, even from behind bars.

Once a certain amount of evidence is collected, it should be a death sentence

[tpzy94]

me being a christian i think it is wrong nobody has the right 2 die b4 their time and yes that goes both ways but everybody can b forgavin

[Sage]

me being a christian

Many Christians support capital punishment.

[Kris2]

great if u can be 100% sure the person did it - but can u ever be?
once u topped him then aint no use sayin sorry if u find out he didnt do it!

[Korashk]

Support it based on the fact that it's cheaper than life w/o parole. Life w/o parole is a sentence that should go away. There is literally no point to the punishment. It also fits how I justify rights/removal of rights.

@Sage:
Yes, the state is the only entity that should "be able to decide who lives and dies." This is because the state has ways of regulating said decision. Checks and balances, constitution, ect. The state isn't just:

"Oh, well you can go die because we feel like it."

There are regulations. Sometimes these regulations are unjust and this is something that needs correcting and is unfortunate, but nevertheless the state regulates itself.

Tom, Dick, and Joe however do not have the same checks and limiters.

[Jamie]

I am staunchly opposed to capital punishment. For the reasoning that the convicted does not deserve to die when it can be prevented. To put someone to death in a controlled environment, and to plan their death seems simply terrible and unjust, regardless of the offense committed.

[1_21Guns]

Please do not bump old threads.

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