Rule about Sex

[Dante]

I was just in the puberty forum and a couple of forums were locked because some were seeking advice about sex and we aren't allowed to give adivce on such matters, but do you think this rule should change? I mean so many teens are having sex and i just think that we should be here to help them with whatever questions they have on the matter, I mean we help them with everything else

[Whisper]

...Agreed

[Bobby]

I agree!!

[Kiros]

To be honest, I don't think we should change it. For one reason, we have a puberty forum, but puberty and such questions are not what this board was made for. I don't even think teens should be having sex, or at least no where near what it has come to. Why advocate it? Though if I remember correctly, someone recently said "change is bad." Going on that alone, we shouldn't change it, but it's clear that statement was an opinion...

Though we allow quite a lot of what I believe we shouldn't for a teen site. I mean, would you honestly feel comfortable explaining to your guardians what goes on in the puberty forum alone? I think it would be fine talking about any other forum... Eh... Just a point of view I suppose.

[Dante]

To be honest, I don't think we should change it. For one reason, we have a puberty forum, but puberty and such questions are not what this board was made for. I don't even think teens should be having sex, or at least no where near what it has come to. Why advocate it? Though if I remember correctly, someone recently said "change is bad." Going on that alone, we shouldn't change it, but it's clear that statement was an opinion...

Though we allow quite a lot of what I believe we shouldn't for a teen site. I mean, would you honestly feel comfortable explaining to your guardians what goes on in the puberty forum alone? I think it would be fine talking about any other forum... Eh... Just a point of view I suppose.

Yea you might think that Teens shouldn't be having sex but guess what they are? and we just have to accept that...and how is giving advice on sex advocating it? That's like saying giving out condoms is promoting people to have sex, which isn't the case, we shouldn't just turn away people because they decided to have sex, we should help them and offer any advice possible.

Kiros, People come here to share their personal thoughts, thoughts that they cannot dare say infront of their parents or guardians, that is why we are here, and we are a community to help people in need.

[Bobby]

You have to put a limit on the sex topic though.
By giving people advice we might be turning them away from sex, but giving advice would certainly not promote it. If people are asking a question about sex, then they've probapply already had it, or are set on they're way to doing it.
We can't tell people what to do, if someone wants to have sex, we have no right to stop them.

Another thing, was the board made for tech junkies, was the board made for media junkies, was it made for a chatroom, no.
Change is good you have to expand, change is good.

Make a sub-forum "Sex Ed"
No matter what the rules say people are going to ask sex questions, so you might as well make a forum for it.

My thoughs. :)

[Whisper]

Teens DO have sex
get over it
its not your job to decide what you consider is morally right for us to talk about

And to answer your question
I would have NO problem discussing in detail whats talked about in the pub forum
My fam is very open when it comes to talking about puberty and sex
We'll bring it up in public situations to just to try and make our guests squirm
family tradition

Only in some areas is change bad
like the coffee forum for instance

[Kiros]

I'm not saying that teens aren't having sex. I know they are, and I also believe that it shouldn't be happening - or at the very least, not as much. I know that just answering how to have sex is not advocating it, but can you honestly tell me that if we allow that, then someone is not going to say "yeah, try it" or something to the extent...

Dante, these forums are not intended for puberty. A puberty intended board is, for example, Puberty101. Though the puberty forum remains to attract newcomers, I know. We help teens, yes, and so we should help them out all we can, and sometimes it's better not to allow such content. If we allow sex topics, then why not sexual images? In fact, why not porn itself? So yes, change is bad, right? We have rules and restrictions for good reasons, and so we should keep it that way.

[Bobby]

Talking about sex is different then seeing pictures or sex or porn.
We would keep the porn rule.

[Dante]

wait wait wait....you are comparing giving sexual advice to people to allowing pornography???

see this is why peoiple turned out so fucked up in life because they dont have proper sexual education.....and and it does happen

[Whisper]

okay first of all your PERSONAL OPINION that teens shouldnt have sex is just that YOUR opinion

Kiros take a look at Texas
they are the only state that teaches only abstenience
did you know that texas has more teen pregnancys per year then all other states combined?

Being allowed to talk about sex
and ask questions does not mean you will run out and have sex

it also seems clear that the "sex dosent exist" policy aint workin so well

Were not saying have a seperate forum for sex talk
just allow it in the pub forum

and you know very well that this site wasent created for tech junkies paradise either

and porn
is COMPLETLY diffrent then talking about sex

[nullandvoid123]

No, this is supposed to be a forum about peuberty, and I think it's already out of hand. I don't go to that forum for the simple fact that if my parents ever saw any of the topics, I'd be screwed out of my mind.

[Whisper]

No, this is supposed to be a forum about peuberty, and I think it's already out of hand. I don't go to that forum for the simple fact that if my parents ever saw any of the topics, I'd be screwed out of my mind.

why would they care?
and how would they see? i've been here for 2yrs VERY active for the majority of it
nobody here has ever seen VT

I dont go there simply cause i'm not 14 anymore

But I agree that it should be allowed for the simple reason that teens should be able to talk and ask questions freely about sex because its a HUGE part of puberty ang growing up ingeneral
And if you have a question
from what i've herd the majority of the members here have nowhere to ask it
nowhere to go period
which I dont agree with
There are allot of people that post questions about it anyway
members answer
no harm done
so why not just make it so the mods arent put between a rock and a hard place when they see those threads
of course i belive they should have full right to use there own disgression on it
but it shouldnt be an auto lock

[Kiros]

Cody, what do you mean Texas is the only state that teaches abstinence? I'm in Louisiana and I was schooled on it. In fact, we even had someone come to our high school and show just how stupid sex before marriage is. The society today is manipulated by the media so it seems more or less natural that teens accept sex. In fact, nowadays, even small children accept it because of the stupid media. Sex is something that shows the true passion for each other in a couple, however, today's society has torn that completely to shreds. Now, sex is thought of somewhat as 'fun' for a guy and it's just something to get him off all while a girl just let's him do it because she thinks it will strengthen their relationship... Guess what! It barely ever does, in fact, sometimes the guy even leaves her because he got all what he wanted. That's just plain sick.

Though do not think I'm saying that all sex is like that between teens. I know a teen couple that were both virgins and are still very much in love. A month before school let out, they gave their virginity to each other and both of them are still so happy. I'm a very good friend with the girl and I support her for what she did. I'm sure this happens in more than one relationship... Say like Veronica and her guy. Veronica as posted about it and I think it was beautiful, however, it's not always like that. I know another friend of mine that was thrown into a complete depression because her guy left her after getting what he wanted... You have no idea how much pain that deals to a girl - even I don't. Though I do know that a girl has a bond with their partner after having sex (though the same bond kind of bond she would have with a child of hers).

Now besides leaving a girl heartbroken and depressed, do you know how many people die from STD's? Well in 1998, approximately 30,000 deaths were recorded from STD's. That number has not stayed the same nor has it decreased - meaning it has increased. The number of infections are insanely higher than that. Oh, and do you know of HPV? I guess one could consider it just as bad, if not worse than HIV. HPV can take years to show anything at all. The longest I know of is 11 years. And you know what's really fascinating? Once you have HPV, you cannot be curred. You are contagious for the rest of your life. Condoms don't work against it either. It goes through contact of the skin. This means, you actually don't even have to have sex with your partner to transfer it to them when you have this. Oh, and the warts from HPV have to be burnt off either with several laser or acid treatments.

Cody, I don't know about you, but I would like to do all I can to prevent any teen from getting any string of an STD, especially because of HPV, which if a teen develops, will not be able to have sex with anyone for the rest of their life without transmitting it.

Yes, everyone, it is my own opinion. Good grief, I thought that was clear. I'm not trying to start a revolution nor am I stating what will be done in the future. Get over it, I have my opinion and I'm actually stating it.

Cody, porn is directly related to sex. To say it's not is contrasting common sense. If we allow sexual topics, then why not allow that crap as well? This is why we have these restrictions. I will not lift a rule that I know is limiting a little chaos on this board. The fact of it is, if anything, we should be thinking about limiting the questions more. It's clear that some very questionable topics are appearing in the puberty forum. These topics are probably why a lot of members would not feel comfortable with their family members knowing of this site.

Ah, and Ant, you have a very good analogy about the Drug Abuse forum, however, it's an abuse forum. It's made so people can get help on stopping the abuse. It's not called "Drugs! More Drugs!." Read the title again and again and look for a connection between what I'm saying and what the forum is for.

Dante, I'm sorry, but we are not proper sexual education. If someone needs it, they should take a course, or maybe check out Puberty101. I'm sure they have a lot of sexual related topics.

I'm just saying that I'm against it, so I will not lift the rule. I did not just write out an incredibly long explanation for nothing, so before you judge me and my decision, please read everything. Though hey, let's all remember "change is bad" ;)

[Ravenous]

Though hey, let's all remember "change is bad" ;)
Lmao thats fucking brilliant that is, you ignore us when the majority of people say that about TCS, yet when we suggest something you don't like, you throw it back at us. I hate to dissapoint you but it doesn't work that way dear. You can't just pick and choose what you want to hear to suit you best.
Sex Education is an important part of teen life, most teens get it in school but they might not remember everything. If they need to ask questions this site is a great place to top up their knowledge. Abstinance does not work, that will only work with teens who believe in it. You cannot brainwash all teens into not having sex before marriage, anyone with half a brain wont fall for it. So it is better to teach teens how to have sex safely. Im disgusted that schools actually try and force that onto you, whatever happened to free will.
Sex advice is completely different to posting porn, one is for the safety and health of people, the other is just entertainment. I will let you decide which is which.
just how stupid sex before marriage is. Just another opinion of yours, not everyone thinks that. Isn't it best that the people who will have sex before marriage are tought it safely?

[Bobby]

Again no one would encourage sex at all, and we would remind the people to use A condom if they are already going to have sex.

"porn is directly related sex" no it's not. Porn is the act of having sex on tape.
Sex is sex privately.
If someone is talking about their sex life, they still shouldn't be able so show porn, or give out sites beecause most of who aren't old enough (even though some watch it anyways).

[Dante]

Kiros you go on and on about STD and depression when it comes to sex. Then why can't we offer advice on such things? Do you think that we would actually tell members "you should have unprotected sex and get an STD because that's fun"? I actually believe you think that we would do something like that and that's kind of sad. We're not telling them to go and have sex we are just offering any advice that we could to help them. We shouldn't turn away people for that matter.

Ofcourse porn is related to sex but you are literally putting it on the same level as Sex Advice?? People have sex and giving advice isn't wrong.

and yes it is your opinion but instead of listening to other members, you are integrating your opinion on how you run this site, as clear as it may be What you are doing isn't right because you do not listen to us.

and truth be told the reason why I think you are particularly stubborn on this is because noone likes the Coffee Shop, people think its a useless forum and it takes away from our true general discussion forum: The White Padded Room.

[TheWizard]

Having read everyone's opinion I have to say some very good points were made. If we had a separate Sex Ed forum the focus on safe sex it might be a good thing to teach. Like covering all the safe sex content could help people from messing up their life.

Let me think this over and I'll get back to you.

[DouggyO.o]

a forum about sex could help alot of teens. sure there is a possablity of getting a few adult post here and there but that is what mod's are for.

teens are going to keep having sex, adn as we can promote not having sex there going to do it, i personaly think a sex ed forum would be perfect for the people with questions like that. and it will keep some of them out of the puberty forum that way its devided

im for Sex ed

[redcar]

in believe that we should allow sex threads. like sex is a big part of our lives wheather we like it or not. we talk about it, some do it, some dont, but its always there. and i know it scares alot of people like "will i do it right?" "how do i have safe sex?" or "what in gods name or STD's and STI's?". these are the type of stuff that people ask and i think we should be able to answer them here. i know we are not proper sex education, but we have experience, and i think thats best. like none of us are qualified in giving advice on other things but through experience we can and do. i just think it would be a good idea, and i am going to stop now cause i am repeating everything that has been said above, sorry!

[Ravenous]

Thanks Josh for actually considering our points :)

[Bobby]

I think we should ad it as a sub forum to Vt general hospital, or to puberty.

[DouggyO.o]

i think it should be subed from puberty cuz thats were we get the questions

[Kiros]

Lmao thats fucking brilliant that is, you ignore us when the majority of people say that about TCS, yet when we suggest something you don't like, you throw it back at us. I hate to dissapoint you but it doesn't work that way dear.

Tim, I was trying to make a point. See how completely worthless that is an a conversation? It's just a complete, obvious opinion struck out of vengeful judgment. But wait, you know what else is brilliant? "Only in some areas is change bad." When you say change is good, I suppose it's good. When you say change is bad, then I guess it's bad. However, you cannot selectively state it's good or bad just to suit you. It just doesn't work like that.

Ah, Tim, now whatever did happen to free will?! Why have so many teens been brainwashed by the media? I'm glad I was taught about abstinence. My entire school was taught about abstinence. We were all taught that we have a choice. Promoting free will is enjoyable :)

Though I'm pretty sure that only people with half a brain would think that abstinence is a bad thing. It's actually the only thing that will protect someone from STD's. There is no such thing as safe sex anymore. The only thing that could mean is preventing a pregnancy. An STD can be transmitted even with a condom. Abstinence is the only way to prevent that.

Tim and Bobby, you say that porn and sex are not related? They are completely different?
Porn is the act of having sex on tape. Sex is sex privately.
Now let's analyze this. Porn is sex, but on tape, right? It is actually sex being captured and presented through the means of a tape. Sex is sex, but private. This shows that sex can be public though. Porn actually confirms this. Though you cannot define a word with the word in question. Sex is just sex - private or public. Porn is sex on tape or on disk or on hard drive or even in cyberspace. Porn is simply sex that can be watched. That is how they are directly related. I can't make it much clearer than that, sorry.

Dante, I can assure you that most teens are not as stupid as most of this thread makes them out to be. Though just imagine what kind of topics would be showing up in a Sex Ed/Advice forum. Sure, at first, there would be clean thread probably as a result from observing the expectations we have in this thread. Seriously, there are numerous distasteful threads in the puberty forum already, so think what might show up if we allow this.

Please be thankful I'm not listening to my brother. He suggested since I'm an administrator that I simply say "Your opinions don't matter. What I say goes." and lock/delete the thread. Though I'm not, I don't like to be that drastic, nor have an attitude like that. However, I believe I could at any time and explain why in a private forum to the other admins. Though, again, I'm not. It's seeming more and more that when an administrator has an opinion, he better agree with the majority or he'll get bashed - or at least most people have a problem with me actually having an opinion.

I really am trying to listen to everyone's thoughts and I'd like to think that I am considering everyone's beings before making a call. Although, apparently I'm not, so I apologize. Please excuse my attitude if it seems to contradict what I say, as I have typed all of this 3 times now (vBulletin kept logging me out) and I am a little fed up with all the crap I have had to put up with. :| So now, I feel I have made my points. I'll let this thread boil down to a conclusion without my useless babble.

[Bobby]

Your making a point and we respect you for that.

We're no sayin sex and porn are not completely different, but you can't compare sexual advice with pornogrpahic videos and images.

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

I think sex questons should be allowd because... at 5th grade i remember being educated bout sex and id rather ask the VT community then my parents

[MoveAlong]

Let's do a patch-up here.

Please excuse my attitude if it seems to contradict what I say, as I have typed all of this 3 times now (vBulletin kept logging me out) and I am a little fed up with all the crap I have had to put up with. :|
Ok, I'm sorry to hear that :( But, I belive once the cookies are on the computer, you can simply go back. If it says "Please log in to use this feature" then I simply click back, cut everything, log in, and then paste and post. Might even review it. If you have a different or slower connection, for some reason it gets rid of the cookies easier and updates them to where you're out of the page completely :| But that's how I do it, hope this helps :)


Having read everyone's opinion I have to say some very good points were made. If we had a separate Sex Ed forum the focus on safe sex it might be a good thing to teach. Like covering all the safe sex content could help people from messing up their life.

Let me think this over and I'll get back to you.
Ok, thank you :) Can I first have an opinion, please?

We've disscussed sex right here, in this topic. This topic isn't about sex! It's seeing if we're going to allow it discussed in its own forum/subforum. Personally, I think that we should have ours LOCKED. This means the forum itself is locked to where no posting of topics are allowed.
We can get some good information about STDs and STIs, how to have safe sex, pressuring, but NO LINKS TO PORN SITES. Simply a handfull of stickys, created by the members. This makes it to where we need absolutly NO moderators, there is NO porn issue, and gives important information on the dangers of sex. We CAN NOT give out ANY sites or tell ANYBODY about having sex of ANY kind.

...If we wish to allow the discussion about it, it should be heavily moderated. NOT by members who are inactive for weeks or months at a time, such as a portion of a moderating team there is. (Note: this statment should not open the disscussion of other 'inactive' moderators in this topic.)


...or, I can personally read the rules of IPB and see if they'll let me start a sex forum, which you can redirect people to. I will find knowledge about STDs and STIs, ect but will NOT have ANY pornographic images or links WHAT SO EVER.


This is my idea, and my point now stands to be discussed. Thoughts? :)

[Φρανκομβριτ]

teens have sex questions. We just do. Why the fuck can't we ask them? I think It's stupid when we know the answers and CAN help people, but don't because it's against the rules

[nullandvoid123]

Because teens aren't really supposed to be having sex until their later years. In most states its illegal to have sex until you're sixteen, and alot of the people here are under that age. We shouldn't be encouraging illegal sex by telling kids how to do it.

[Whisper]

were NOT telling them to do it
were answering questions and helping there curiosity
otherwise the only option to them IS to go have sex

The ONLY type of education texas teaches is abstenence state wide all the schools thats the only state that does that
and they have more teen pregnancys then every other state combined

if a teen is simply curious and has questions they should be able to ask instead of just going fuck it and having sex


I'm 18, i'm a virgin and i'm happy being one why because any question i've ever had no matter how stupid i could ask whenever I wanted and my parents, brother inlaws or sisters would answer
they wouldnt make fun of me
they wouldnt yell at me

not everyone has a family like that
some are chastized and punished simply for asking a question

thats NOT right
We help teens with everything from suicidal tendancys to how to clean a laptop
why cant they ask simple sex questions
hell they already do
it hasent done any harm
some get answers others get punished and yelled at

its retarted
were not telling them to run out and have sex
all were trying to do is provide a safe area for them to ask ligitimate questions if the mods of the puberty forum judge that its not a real question its just a horny teen being a shit then by all means lock it
but an honest question shouldnt be attacked

kiros i wont let this topic just fade away like i did with that stupid forum (i still want it gone by the way)
i wont just let it go away so you can get your way agains the majority as an admin its your job to listen thats what josh does thats what francis does thats what makes a good admin
even josh is considering it
you may have the authority to TRY (emphasis on try) to shut us up but you do not have the authority to go against him
this is his site
not yours

this place was created to help teens
sex is a HUGE part of being a teenager
your just finding out about this big scary and wonderful thing
your curious naturally
you should be allow to ask questions
you should be allowed to learn

[TheWizard]

I started a poll in puberty to see what people visiting the puberty forum think of the idea.

[Ravenous]

You don't have a choice if abstinence is what you are taught, that teaches teens simply to not have sex. Where is the choice in that?
My school taught sex education, they gave us the straight facts. They let us decide what we want to, thats how it should be. That is free will.
Its not a matter of whether abstinence is good or bad, its a matter of opinion. Yes it is the only 100% protection against STD's and it is a very sensible option. However it isn't for everyone, not everyone will choose abstinence, because they have the choice. Condoms are still extreemly effective.
I did not say porn and sex are not related, don't change my words :)
I said
Sex advice is completely different to posting porn
Which it is, giving someone advice on how to have safer sex is totally different to pornography. They have a central theme yes, but they are not comparable. Unless you class a sentance like this "remember to always use a condom and make sure it is used correctly" as porn. Which I highly doubt.
Moderators are there to lock/delete inappropriate threads, they crop upin the puberty forum already, these will still be removed obviously.
Your brother sounds like a dick. You might be an admin, but its still Josh's site.
We have forums to help people with drug problems/tell them how to use drugs safely, so why not do the same with sex. Tell people how to have safer sex. STD rates are high like you say, so why doesn't this site try and help to lower them by informing the teens who need to ask these questions and might not be comfortable asking anyone else.
Because teens aren't really supposed to be having sex until their later years. In most states its illegal to have sex until you're sixteen, and alot of the people here are under that age. We shouldn't be encouraging illegal sex by telling kids how to do it.
No they aren't sopposed to, but people do. Not everyone sticks to the law, big deal. We would not be telling people to have sex, we would be encouraging those who want to have sex, to do so safely.
You chose abstinence, Kiros. That is your choice fair enough, everyone should be alowed to make their own decisions. So if someone chooses to have sex, wouldn't you rather they knew how to do so safely?

[Dante]

Well thanks Josh for considering it, but I honeslty don't think we need to create another forum, I believe we can just integrate it into the puberty forum.

Nothing is Wrong with abstinence, but we can't be blind on what is going on in the world. We want to make this website a welcoming place and this will further prove it.

Kiros we acknowledge and respect your opinion, but its just that when you run the site based on those opinions and shut out everyone elses' that is where the problem exists

[MoveAlong]

Evidently my idea was bad :|

The reason I said for it to be locked, is so there isn't any acting up, or pornographic matirial. This forum would have to be heavily moderated, and even if we incorperate it into the puberty forum, we'd still need to watch it more than the other forums :| Whether that means more moderators, or more active moderators, or simply have the moderators work harder :|

[Dante]

Really? is it that serious?

[MoveAlong]

Really? is it that serious?
I beg your pardon? :huh: A sex forum will definatly attract spammers, who might post pornographic images. Can you not talk to me that way? Sarcasm doesn't get you anywhere.

[nachtspiegel]

I've browsed the GovTeen forums before, they have a Teen Sexuality forum, puberty and sex are seperate. And VT members should be allowed to ask a question about sex.

Here's the difference between a spammer and an actual sex question:

'H0w d0 y0u fuck????!!!11111!11one11!'

actual question:
'How do you use birth control? I have nowhere else to ask and I really need help with this."

Now, let's say VT was a teen clinic. It's almost like it, except it's a forum. A teen girl or boy comes in needing help, such as information about proper condom use or what different methods of birth control are available, but the clinic says that they help with depressed teens and counseling, but no sex information. Six months later, the receptionist sees the same girl pregnant, or a year later the same person who was on call sees this 16 year old boy carrying a baby. Now, how would that person feel knowing that they could have helped prevent this? It might not be the same in physical comparison but the morals are still the same.

As long as their not posting porno images and shit it shouldn't be a problem.

[Whisper]

Please be thankful I'm not listening to my brother. He suggested since I'm an administrator that I simply say "Your opinions don't matter. What I say goes." and lock/delete the thread. Though I'm not, I don't like to be that drastic, nor have an attitude like that. However, I believe I could at any time and explain why in a private forum to the other admins. Though, again, I'm not. It's seeming more and more that when an administrator has an opinion, he better agree with the majority or he'll get bashed - or at least most people have a problem with me actually having an opinion.

I just saw this
honestly kiros
threatening us
tisk tisk
dude your brothers a fool
you thought the last fight was bad
if you think for ONE SECOND you actually have the political power on this site to do whatever you want and fuck what we think then you are sadly mistaken
I don't care if josh and francis made you an admin
its still ONE against HUNDREDS
and now I see your even begining to go against Josh
this is HIS SITE not yours
it will NEVER be yours no matter how hard you try
if I ever see you openly go against Josh
i'll go balistic
:hug2:



Thank you Josh soooo much for doing that!
for actually taking the initiative to see what the members want

and dude the puberty forum is already bad we handle it just fine
there is no other forum on this site thats watched as closley by the staff
Josh made some REALLY good choices when apointing the pub mods
they along with the global mods and admins are more then capable of handeling it
we've had allot of porn posted onto VT befor all over the site
it was removed and the member banned quickly


You have no idea what kind of spam attacks we've been through
we were attacked by an entire fraternity once
over 150 spammers comming on at once
we crushed them in no time

that wont be an issue

I agree with dante though
we don't need a new forum for it
just allow it to be discussed in the puberty forum

[Bobby]

Kiros I think your an awesome person, and a great admin. But it is Josh's site. The odds are against you.

[MoveAlong]

:-? Is Kiros attacking everybody? Why is everybody against Kiros? It is Josh's site, and he and Francis wouldn't of hired him if they didn't trust him. I'm not taking sides with Kiros, but why is everybody against him? :confused:

[Bobby]

I'm not against Kiros, at all. I'm against his opinion on this subject

[Dante]

I beg your pardon? :huh: A sex forum will definatly attract spammers, who might post pornographic images. Can you not talk to me that way? Sarcasm doesn't get you anywhere.


of first of all, WE DO NEED A SEX FORUM, all that really needs to be done is that when someone comes on the site and talks about sex, instead of locking the damn thread we give them advice....so with that spammer crap, its bullshit.

hell we dont have to even make a big announcemnt allowing sex advice, just dont push memebers away from it.

and dude chill the hell out, I wasn;t even being sarcastic

[Charlotte]

I'm all for a sex forum, for reasons everyones been saying.

[nullandvoid123]

were NOT telling them to do it
were answering questions and helping there curiosity
otherwise the only option to them IS to go have sex

The ONLY type of education texas teaches is abstenence state wide all the schools thats the only state that does that
and they have more teen pregnancys then every other state combined

if a teen is simply curious and has questions they should be able to ask instead of just going fuck it and having sex


I'm 18, i'm a virgin and i'm happy being one why because any question i've ever had no matter how stupid i could ask whenever I wanted and my parents, brother inlaws or sisters would answer
they wouldnt make fun of me
they wouldnt yell at me

not everyone has a family like that
some are chastized and punished simply for asking a question

thats NOT right
We help teens with everything from suicidal tendancys to how to clean a laptop
why cant they ask simple sex questions
hell they already do
it hasent done any harm
some get answers others get punished and yelled at

its retarted
were not telling them to run out and have sex
all were trying to do is provide a safe area for them to ask ligitimate questions if the mods of the puberty forum judge that its not a real question its just a horny teen being a shit then by all means lock it
but an honest question shouldnt be attacked

kiros i wont let this topic just fade away like i did with that stupid forum (i still want it gone by the way)
i wont just let it go away so you can get your way agains the majority as an admin its your job to listen thats what josh does thats what francis does thats what makes a good admin
even josh is considering it
you may have the authority to TRY (emphasis on try) to shut us up but you do not have the authority to go against him
this is his site
not yours

this place was created to help teens
sex is a HUGE part of being a teenager
your just finding out about this big scary and wonderful thing
your curious naturally
you should be allow to ask questions
you should be allowed to learn
"Helping their curiosity," as you put it, is not going to stop them from having sex, only push them to it more! If this place was founded to help teens, then we should HELP them to not have teen sex! God.

And another thing, do you really understand how many predators this could attract?
I'm sure there are already horny old men just sitting there reading the peuberty forum, jacking off to the thirteen year old masturbation questions.
Just because people enter a birthdate, does not mean its true!

I've browsed the GovTeen forums before, they have a Teen Sexuality forum, puberty and sex are seperate. And VT members should be allowed to ask a question about sex.

Here's the difference between a spammer and an actual sex question:

'H0w d0 y0u fuck????!!!11111!11one11!'

actual question:
'How do you use birth control? I have nowhere else to ask and I really need help with this."

Now, let's say VT was a teen clinic. It's almost like it, except it's a forum. A teen girl or boy comes in needing help, such as information about proper condom use or what different methods of birth control are available, but the clinic says that they help with depressed teens and counseling, but no sex information. Six months later, the receptionist sees the same girl pregnant, or a year later the same person who was on call sees this 16 year old boy carrying a baby. Now, how would that person feel knowing that they could have helped prevent this? It might not be the same in physical comparison but the morals are still the same.

As long as their not posting porno images and shit it shouldn't be a problem.
If we don't tell them what they are asking about, then they are more likely to not have sex. Listen people, teens only want sex because of raging hormones. When they get old enough to make a mature descision about it, they will do so. Making a decision like that during teenage years is anything but mature, and it could ruin someone's life. We should not encourage that by making a forum to answer teen sex questions.

[Whisper]

"Helping their curiosity," as you put it, is not going to stop them from having sex, only push them to it more! If this place was founded to help teens, then we should HELP them to not have teen sex! God.
Dude sex ed is a PROVEN method it has worked for countless millions
the "sex does not exist" policy
not so much
oh and then theres this
The United States Constitution is the supreme law of the United States of America
First Amendment FREEDOM OF SPEECH

What gives you the right to chastise them for asking a simple honest question thats not hurting anyone?

Were not saying make another forum
were not saying make a huge announcement
were saying just stop locking the ligitimate ones


And another thing, do you really understand how many predators this could attract?
Don't you EVER lecture me on "sexual predators"
I know all about them

I'm sure there are already horny old men just sitting there reading the peuberty forum, jacking off to the thirteen year old masturbation questions.
Just because people enter a birthdate, does not mean its true!
Has anybody here ever said diffrent?
we all know there here
its not rocket science
but does that mean we don't allow real teens with real questions the right to ask
to learn
to understand
We let them talk all they want about periods, masturbation, foreskin etc... so who really cares if they talk about condoms, spermacide, STD's, etc....



If we don't tell them what they are asking about, then they are more likely to not have sex. Listen people, teens only want sex because of raging hormones. When they get old enough to make a mature descision about it, they will do so. Making a decision like that during teenage years is anything but mature, and it could ruin someone's life. We should not encourage that by making a forum to answer teen sex questions.

Speak fo yourself if you can't trust yourself then thats your problem not ours
and how other teens choose to conduct there sex life is none of your dam bussiness
who are you to tell them what they can and cant do?
I have met ALLOT of extremly bright teens that know whats best for THEM in THEIR individual situation they know what there doing

I've met allot of horny teens and I can garuntee you some site on the net going shhhhhh BAD or being open on the topic will not bear any real weight on there decision
if there that horny
there gonna do it
personally i'd rather they know how to protect themselves then just go blundering into it

[DouggyO.o]

I've met allot of horny teens and I can garuntee you some site on the net going shhhhhh BAD or being open on the topic will not bear any real weight on there decision
if there that horny
there gonna do it
personally i'd rather they know how to protect themselves then just go blundering into it

exacly if they insist on having sex they need to be protected and if they do not learn about these things than they are at more of a risk, there are so many teens out there that havenever been talked to about sex/puberty this is somthing that is important to know and we have the right to tell them, or else.

think about it they come here asking how to use birth controle or a condom and we lock the thread

they go off and have sex unprotected and she gets pregnant ,we are tecnicly responsable because we didnt tell them the advice they needed and didnt want to tell/ask there parents...how would u feel if somthing like that happend?

this is why we need to allow it:yes:

[DarkWingedAngel]

i no im not a moderator or admin or anything but i think it is a good idea because anytime we ask questions about sex u lock the thred like u don't have to answer on how to have sex but u could answer the threds on what to do or how to put a condom on or birth control ................................ because i have noticed that almost every thred that has sex mentioned in it gets locked ........... it is my opinion

[Whisper]

Dude this is two yrs old
please dont bump old threads

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