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CaliKid24
June 12th, 2010, 03:41 AM
I don't know if this is in the right spot but whatever. So I was thinking today and it's weird to me that so may people have so many opinions on the reason to life. Many people don't spend too much time to think about it and accept life as nothing more than what it seem to be but others believe that we are like bacteria or sumthing. Some people believe in god and some don't. So I guess my question is what do you think life is? What do u think our purpose is? Or do we serve no purpose?
INFERNO
June 12th, 2010, 07:02 AM
We as animals serve the purpose to continue to prosper on this rock and to develop more and more. On an individualistic level, the purpose is to attain success and the definition of success is up to each person, usually it's a dynamic view. This is true whether a god, multiple gods/beings or no gods/beings exist. The formation of such beings are to understand life, understand why things in nature occur and justify ourselves in what we do and what happens. In other words, it aids in the view of attaining success and can explain why we're here the way we are.
We are cells, matter, beings consisting of energy, however microscopic and quantum you want to go, whether a god did it or not. I don't believe a god did this or made this but if you keep asking "why" ad infinitum you reach a point of first clause and reach primum movens or a scientific theory.
Sith Lord 13
June 12th, 2010, 07:05 AM
Grow and reproduce.
Anything more is an invention of the human consciousness.
Amnesiac
June 14th, 2010, 10:44 PM
Even though the human race is far advanced beyond any other species on earth, each of our jobs individually is the same as that of a single member of some other species: to contribute to the growth and health of the human race. This is done by reproducing (not too much though) and doing something productive for the species (or, in other words, getting a job). However, on a larger scale our lives mean nothing as sooner or later the human race will be wiped out by some destructive force, which would just be another small happening in the history of the universe. Humans don't really have any impact on anything universally, we only affect what happens here on earth.
Therefore, life (to me, anyway) doesn't mean much, because I'm just one person out of the billions upon billions that will live and die throughout the history of the human race, which in turn is just a tiny fraction of the history of the universe.
dhjgfdgrrr
June 14th, 2010, 11:25 PM
as a whole, idk if Humanity has a purpose, I do believe that we each have a purpose....to make this world better for others
Blood
June 15th, 2010, 01:04 AM
as a whole, idk if Humanity has a purpose, I do believe that we each have a purpose....to make this world better for others
No, our purpose is to reproduce. To multiply. To continue living on earth.
To make this world a better place for others is a choice one can make. It's not our purose, though.
Sage
June 15th, 2010, 02:49 AM
We as animals serve the purpose to continue to prosper on this rock and to develop more and more.
Grow and reproduce.
our jobs individually is the same as that of a single member of some other species: to contribute to the growth and health of the human race.
No, our purpose is to reproduce. To multiply. To continue living on earth.
Why?
CaliKid24
June 15th, 2010, 02:57 AM
Why?
Exactly
Sith Lord 13
June 15th, 2010, 03:35 AM
Biological imperative.
Sage
June 15th, 2010, 03:38 AM
Biological imperative.
This gives meaning how?
Sith Lord 13
June 15th, 2010, 03:43 AM
This gives meaning how?
The meaning of any creature in a species is to continue that species.
Sage
June 15th, 2010, 03:50 AM
The meaning of any creature in a species is to continue that species.
Why? It makes no difference in the grand scheme of the universe if a species continues or not.
Obscene Eyedeas
June 15th, 2010, 04:10 AM
Given the sheer size of the universe there is undoubtedly other forms of life out there. therefore what is the purpose of our specific race? please do not keep saying to reproduce as with the way of things the sun will eventually die and with it all life on earth. no oxygen no food and no human race. whatever created our race would have been quite stupid to make a race for purely mating purposes only to destroy it. unless our purpose is and always was simply to entertain the force which created the universe but then again who is to say that any real higher power exists. what then is the purpose of a persons life?
Sith Lord 13
June 15th, 2010, 04:44 AM
Our purpose need not have galactic importance. Any living thing's purpose is to continue its existence and the existence of its species,
Obscene Eyedeas
June 15th, 2010, 04:51 AM
Our purpose need not have galactic importance. Any living thing's purpose is to continue its existence and the existence of its species,
But as tim said why?
Sith Lord 13
June 15th, 2010, 05:10 AM
But as tim said why?
Because existence begets existence.
Obscene Eyedeas
June 15th, 2010, 06:08 AM
Ok well i would love for you to think over what you said and to bring forward evidence even if that evidence is hypothetical. i could easily say the world is a computer simulation just as WoW was created by us. i could put forward quite a persuasive argument too which would lead to our purpose in life being purely for a creators entertainment but that can be left for another time. you can not brush off valid arguments with fancy sayings or 3 word sentences. you must bring forward hypotheticals and facts and let others judge what you say as you must judge what they say. you must analyze, discuss and debate a point. nothing is unquestionable and im questioning your idea.
Ryhanna
June 15th, 2010, 06:35 AM
I think we either have no purpose, or many.
I can't particularly what any of those purposes are mainly because I have no idea myself.
INFERNO
June 15th, 2010, 01:41 PM
Why?
But as tim said why?
Recall Louis Pasteur's famous experiment. He found life will only come forth from components of past life. Why? Recall Miller-Urey experiment and chemical evolution. All organisms strive for two main things: survival and reproduce. Doesn't matter if it's humans, bacteria, fungi, fossilized T.rex or life on a planet 10,000 light years away. Life of one organism needs components from life of a previous organism.
You can keep asking why ad infinitum but that is the answer: our goal is just that, reproduce and survive. Mechanisms differ but goal is the same.
Obscene Eyedeas
June 15th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Recall Louis Pasteur's famous experiment. He found life will only come forth from components of past life. Why? Recall Miller-Urey experiment and chemical evolution. All organisms strive for two main things: survival and reproduce. Doesn't matter if it's humans, bacteria, fungi, fossilized T.rex or life on a planet 10,000 light years away. Life of one organism needs components from life of a previous organism.
You can keep asking why ad infinitum but that is the answer: our goal is just that, reproduce and survive. Mechanisms differ but goal is the same.
Yes you answered one why but what about all my other reasoning and points i put forward. Well i would like to see your thoughts on why they're wrong
Aspiringanonymous
June 15th, 2010, 02:14 PM
The purpose attributed to our physical form need not be consistent with the purpose(s) which our non-physical component of existence, or 'spirit', decides to adopt. We cannot choose our physical form and its many seemingly absurd implications, but we can choose to pursue a consciousness encompassing so much more.
Find your own meaning, or be content with a meaning that is 'meaningless'.
Amnesiac
June 15th, 2010, 07:30 PM
Let me rephrase my earlier post: life has no "meaning". My life and everyone else's lives are just part of a cycle. Our generation is born, works, and dies. The next generation is born, works, and dies. There's really nothing more to it. It's not comforting saying that our lives are meaningless... but that's it, they are.
INFERNO
June 15th, 2010, 08:26 PM
whatever created our race would have been quite stupid to make a race for purely mating purposes only to destroy it.
You assume that an intelligent being(s) created the universe and thus, humanity. I don't believe such a being(s) exists and the big bang event has no intelligence to use to foresee events.
what then is the purpose of a persons life?
If no higher being(s) exist and since you have heard the "survive and reproduce" answer already, the only possible answer is that the purpose is to achieve success. The definition of success is not always the same for each person and would change as time goes by. By success, I don't mean to use this as a different way of saying "survive and reproduce" because we each have our own set of goals within life, whether it be to please a higher being(s) or become a doctor. Regardless though, it's insignificant in the grand scheme of the universe and time (unless it's something amazing we do in which it lasts for many generations).
Well i would like to see your thoughts on why they're wrong
You put me in a position where I cannot answer you as you like because my other answer is shown above. That answer can be the same even if someone does believe in a higher being(s). I cant directly answer you because the first part of your response is based on the assumption there is a higher being(s) capable of making the universe and life within it. While I personally do not believe such a being(s) exist, that does not mean they do not truly exist, so I cannot say you're wrong on that reasoning.
That's the only thing I can say if I agree or disagree because that's all I've found unless there's something else, which if so, please state.
Dive to Survive
June 19th, 2010, 06:49 PM
To serve and worship the Lord our God is our purpose. That's why we were made.
Amnesiac
June 19th, 2010, 08:06 PM
To serve and worship the Lord our God is our purpose. That's why we were made.
If God "made" us to serve him, why do so many of us not believe in him in the first place?
I don't see why God would waste his time "creating" people who don't worship him...
Continuum
June 20th, 2010, 09:57 AM
We are ascended beings which separates us from the true animals. Our life cycle is a little bit apart from those of lower tiered beings, which are mostly composed of birth, live life and die afterwards. But, ours is still related to theirs. I find life meaningless on its own, several factors give it it's meaning. God, mystery of death, pursuit of knowledge, they provide the meaning to life.
Dive to Survive
June 25th, 2010, 08:26 PM
If God "made" us to serve him, why do so many of us not believe in him in the first place?
I don't see why God would waste his time "creating" people who don't worship him...
Everyone believed in Him in the "first place" but because of sin, some have strayed away. That's why Jesus was sent, to reclaim the lost.
Heretic
June 25th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Everyone believed in Him in the "first place" but because of sin, some have strayed away. That's why Jesus was sent, to reclaim the lost.
The Bible is a terrible History book. I wouldn't rely on it that much.
Dive to Survive
June 25th, 2010, 10:35 PM
I rely on it in full.
Bryan B
June 26th, 2010, 04:28 PM
Everyone believed in Him in the "first place" but because of sin, some have strayed away. That's why Jesus was sent, to reclaim the lost.
Everyone believed in Him in the "first place" ? Are you sure ?
Did it was knowledge of god in America, Asia, Africa, etc, or before "jesus" ?
If god made us just so we can serve him why don't he tell us in personal or show us that he is really here ?
So the sin makes people stay away from him ? ok right, so in the first place why the sin, the evil, etc exist ? He has "super powers" and can do anything ? why don't he remove the sin, the evil, the wars, crimes, etc
The truth about god and the bible is just an invention by the church that first was to explain the unexplainable (but now its science that can really explain), and then they saw they can create money and power by manipulating people by fear, etc
So that's the only reason the religion was created, to manipulate people and get what they want, now a days "god" just give people some how "hope" but well the reality is that the world is not love and happiness , the real world is "fight" to survive.
(By praying and be the best son of god wont save you from wars, assassinations, crimes, diseases, bankrupt, etc)
Awesome
June 28th, 2010, 12:49 AM
Nowadays you grow up, work and die. About it
Sage
June 28th, 2010, 01:50 AM
Nowadays you grow up, work and die. About it
That's insightful. [/sarcasm] And to add, that's sort of the way things have always been. Read up on your history.
Magus
June 28th, 2010, 11:54 AM
That's insightful. [/sarcasm] And to add, that's sort of the way things have always been. Read up on your history.
Actually, that's what life is. You get up from the bed, survive, and come back to bed. Anything more to life?
Trophies, Medals, Recognition are truly insignificant and just trivial matters. You are dead that means you are dead; whether you are Avicenna-like person or some dead fisherman on the shore. Your body is the food for worms, fishes and the like.
*Expected Scenario*
http://www.hauntedamericatours.com/museum/Vladimir%20Lenin.jpg
What?
Sage
June 28th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Actually, that's what life is. You get up from the bed, survive, and come back to bed. Anything more to life?
Trophies, Medals, Recognition are truly insignificant and just trivial matters. You are dead that means you are dead; whether you are Avicenna-like person or some dead fisherman on the shore. Your body is the food for worms, fishes and the like.
Ew, nihilism. Don't touch me with that!
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