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janthem
June 10th, 2010, 10:38 PM
why do many people dislike mainstream music? personally i think mainstream is entertaining

Ryhanna
June 10th, 2010, 11:11 PM
I'm guessing because they have different taste in music...
I also find mainstream way better than unknown acts, but everyone's different, I guess.

Hollywood
June 10th, 2010, 11:31 PM
I'm not much for mainstream. I don't hate it, but I find one-hit-wonders to be much more creative and talented. I believe it comes down to this: when you are exposed to the same music over and over, it gets old. So people move on to something new for their ears, which usually winds up being the one-hitters.

It's just a matter of personal taste, though.

Sugaree
June 10th, 2010, 11:43 PM
There is one reason why people find mainstream music annoying: It all sounds the same. No matter how you look at it, it all sounds the same. You can't listen to the same repeating three chords over and over with little to do in the song. Is there some good mainstream out there? Yes, absolutely. But is it easy to find? No, not at all. Mainstream music is whatever the listeners can obsess over for two weeks until they find a new dick to suck on. It's a vicious circle, but the same in every genre.

soccer8
June 10th, 2010, 11:47 PM
never heard of it

Sugaree
June 10th, 2010, 11:50 PM
never heard of it

Says the one with a Justin Bieber gif in his signature.

JunkBondTrader
June 11th, 2010, 07:57 AM
I also find mainstream way better than unknown acts

How so? Just because a band is unknown doesn't dictate what their music sounds like. They could be an unknown mainstream band.

I don't know. I have nothing particularly against mainstream music but the bands I listen tend to be a little bit alty or at least half-way.

INFERNO
June 11th, 2010, 03:06 PM
I suppose the main reason people dislike mainstream music is because much of it has a cookie-cutter mold so there's little variety amongst them. Some also accuse certain bands of being "sell-outs", meaning they were good then they abandoned their music and went to mainstream to be more famous. Good for the band if they make it but they lose many fans along the way.

never heard of it

HAHAHA. Nice joke.

Wtficus
June 11th, 2010, 05:06 PM
how to make a song in today's mainstream

1. grab a song by MJ

2. remove vocals and speed up the beat

3.?????

4. PROFIT!!!!

deadpie
June 11th, 2010, 07:51 PM
Because it limits you to the other hundred genre's of music.

janthem
June 11th, 2010, 08:10 PM
I dont think all mainstream music sounds the same because theres many mainstream artists of many genres

Sugaree
June 11th, 2010, 08:39 PM
I dont think all mainstream music sounds the sam cuz theres many mainstream artists of many genres

But most mainstream genres all sound the same. I could take one rap song and one rock song. If you compare them both, they sound different. However, if you compare them to other songs in their respective genres, they sound the same. That's why people hate mainstream music. It's the songs in genres that all sound the same.

HillBillyWilly
June 11th, 2010, 09:50 PM
I like mainstream to an extent.

sometimes i don't like any of it and i just switch to other stuff.

sometimes i do like it and listen to the radio nonstop. I did find out that, at least to me, the songs that are not played as much are better than the major hits.

Apparitions
June 13th, 2010, 01:10 PM
why do many people dislike mainstream music? personally i think mainstream is entertaining
Because it is lazy, effortless music made by artists who don't give a shit cos they've got a few million stashed away somewhere even if no-one buys their music anymore. Mainstream music such as pop gives recognition to people who do not deserve it while much smaller artists (especially Extreme Metal bands) who have more talent in their little finger don't get signed and are left to die slowly. That's why I hate mainstream music.

Aves
June 14th, 2010, 08:39 PM
There is one reason why people find mainstream music annoying: It all sounds the same. No matter how you look at it, it all sounds the same. You can't listen to the same repeating three chords over and over with little to do in the song. Is there some good mainstream out there? Yes, absolutely. But is it easy to find? No, not at all. Mainstream music is whatever the listeners can obsess over for two weeks until they find a new dick to suck on. It's a vicious circle, but the same in every genre.

QFT!

JunkBondTrader
June 15th, 2010, 02:41 PM
But most mainstream genres all sound the same. I could take one rap song and one rock song. If you compare them both, they sound different. However, if you compare them to other songs in their respective genres, they sound the same. That's why people hate mainstream music. It's the songs in genres that all sound the same.

True, but one must keep in mind that at some point, the alternative always becomes the mainstream. Think of Nirvana. I'm a huge Nirvana fan but I know a lot of people who think of them as an alternative act when they have millions of fans worldwide. Surely that qualifies as mainstream?

Mainstream music such as pop gives recognition to people who do not deserve it while much smaller artists (especially Extreme Metal bands) who have more talent in their little finger don't get signed and are left to die slowly.

This boils down to the fact that extreme metal has very limited marketability. I'm an alternative fan myself and I'm in a band that's part of an extremely niche scene so I do understand alternative music, but I do find it quite difficult to listen to some of the more specialist metal subgenres.

Wtficus
June 15th, 2010, 03:13 PM
True, but one must keep in mind that at some point, the alternative always becomes the mainstream. Think of Nirvana. I'm a huge Nirvana fan but I know a lot of people who think of them as an alternative act when they have millions of fans worldwide. Surely that qualifies as mainstream?
dude mainstream back in the 90's and before was good

Sugaree
June 15th, 2010, 03:39 PM
True, but one must keep in mind that at some point, the alternative always becomes the mainstream. Think of Nirvana. I'm a huge Nirvana fan but I know a lot of people who think of them as an alternative act when they have millions of fans worldwide. Surely that qualifies as mainstream?

I still consider them an alternative act because that's how it all started. But yes, you are right that it does qualify as mainstream. But if you look at it then, mainstream was a lot more rock/grunge oriented. Today's mainstream is mostly pop or rap.

JunkBondTrader
June 15th, 2010, 04:11 PM
I still consider them an alternative act because that's how it all started. But yes, you are right that it does qualify as mainstream. But if you look at it then, mainstream was a lot more rock/grunge oriented. Today's mainstream is mostly pop or rap.

I think it was then, too. I don't remember much of the 1990s but there was a lot of crap around then, too. We just don't remember any of it because none of those acts made a lasting impression on anyone. I think we need to make a distinction between "mainstream" and "pop" because a lot of people in this thread seem to be getting them mixed up.

As for mainstream music today, I'd point to MCR. I'm not really an MCR fan but I wouldn't call them pop. I'm not sure what country you're in but here in the UK Welcome to the Black Parade reached number 1 in the singles charts back in 06/07/whenever that song came out which shows that rock still has a place in mainstream music.

Sugaree
June 15th, 2010, 04:25 PM
As for mainstream music today, I'd point to MCR. I'm not really an MCR fan but I wouldn't call them pop. I'm not sure what country you're in but here in the UK Welcome to the Black Parade reached number 1 in the singles charts back in 06/07/whenever that song came out which shows that rock still has a place in mainstream music.

I'm in the United States. I vaguely remember Welcome to the Black Parade (My only MCR album, but I've lost it) all those years ago. Rock still is a big part of mainstream, but it's taken a different turn since groups like Nirvana and Pearl Jam.

Perseus
June 15th, 2010, 04:30 PM
There No matter how you look at it, it all sounds the same. You can't listen to the same repeating three chords over and over with little to do in the song.

Says the guy who likes Green Day. :P

It all depends for me. If they're a good mainstream band, I'll listen to them. If they're not, well, I'm not.

Sugaree
June 15th, 2010, 04:55 PM
Says the guy who likes Green Day. :P

Actually, if you listen to their older stuff, it's definitely some good chord progression and changes. Dig deeper.

Bougainvillea
June 15th, 2010, 04:56 PM
How so? Just because a band is unknown doesn't dictate what their music sounds like. They could be an unknown mainstream band.

I don't know. I have nothing particularly against mainstream music but the bands I listen tend to be a little bit alty or at least half-way.

Same here.

Mainstream is very annoying to me. I hear it all the time. And if you ask me, it sounds all the same. I can't tell the difference between any of Lady GaGa's songs. I think good music, is music the listener can best relate to. And finds appealing. I can't relate to most mainstream, and I most certainly don't find it appealing. But I'm not just throwing it off the table. There are some songs I like.

Ryhanna
June 15th, 2010, 05:13 PM
How so? Just because a band is unknown doesn't dictate what their music sounds like. They could be an unknown mainstream band.

I don't know. I have nothing particularly against mainstream music but the bands I listen tend to be a little bit alty or at least half-way.

Mainly because I like it more. Theres nothing wrong with unknown acts, some of them are good. Me, I just can't get into them.

JunkBondTrader
June 15th, 2010, 07:23 PM
Mainly because I like it more. Theres nothing wrong with unknown acts, some of them are good. Me, I just can't get into them.

Why not? Are you saying that you can't get into a band just because no one has heard of them?

I'm in the United States. I vaguely remember Welcome to the Black Parade (My only MCR album, but I've lost it) all those years ago. Rock still is a big part of mainstream, but it's taken a different turn since groups like Nirvana and Pearl Jam.

That's very true. But I still stand by my belief that the nineties pop charts were a lot like todays in that there was a lot of crap in them. But the awful stuff gets forgotten pretty fast and the worthwhile bands stick around.

Wtficus
June 15th, 2010, 10:33 PM
Why not? Are you saying that you can't get into a band just because no one has heard of them?



That's very true. But I still stand by my belief that the nineties pop charts were a lot like todays in that there was a lot of crap in them. But the awful stuff gets forgotten pretty fast and the worthwhile bands stick around.

yes. this. i agree

janthem
June 17th, 2010, 10:06 AM
That's very true. But I still stand by my belief that the nineties pop charts were a lot like todays in that there was a lot of crap in them. But the awful stuff gets forgotten pretty fast and the worthwhile bands stick around.

how so? because michael jackson has been around for so long! He's dead and his music is still living on! plus what about 2pac, Biggie Smalls, Whitney Houston, Madonna and the list goes on... These people were mainstream big time and they are still considered some of the mostpopular and influential singers/rappers out there!

Kitty Purry
June 17th, 2010, 12:07 PM
I LOVE mainstream music! It's pratically all I listen too:).

Bougainvillea
June 17th, 2010, 01:31 PM
how so? because michael jackson has been around for so long! He's dead and his music is still living on! plus what about 2pac, Biggie Smalls, Whitney Houston, Madonna and the list goes on... These people were mainstream big time and they are still considered some of the mostpopular and influential singers/rappers out there!

That's pretty much what he's saying.

Tupac Shakur and Christopher Wallace were pretty big, It's too bad they died a year after the other.

The Batman
June 17th, 2010, 01:37 PM
I don't care if it's mainstream or underground I just listen to what sounds good to me. It really shouldn't matter what the genre is or how the artist got to where they are, if the music sounds good and you like it then listen to it.

notanorchestra
June 17th, 2010, 02:50 PM
I guess Taking Back Sunday is kind of mainstream. I don't know. I don't like the majority of mainstream music, because I usually don't hear any risk in it. Nobody is making anything groundbreaking, unless they have been around for years (Gorillaz's Plastic Beach album). I just like what I like. I enjoy sounds. I do not say "oh yeah I can't listen to this because it's too mainstream," or "I hate all bands of (certain genre)," however I don't like when people act annoying about a band, and I hate when my favourite bands sell-out.

Wtficus
June 17th, 2010, 10:35 PM
I don't care if it's mainstream or underground I just listen to what sounds good to me. It really shouldn't matter what the genre is or how the artist got to where they are, if the music sounds good and you like it then listen to it.

so you can listen to some shitty pop artist that didn't work worth shit and you'd still listen to them, while there's bands that put blood sweat and tears into their music?

Bougainvillea
June 17th, 2010, 10:42 PM
He just said that. Literally.

waffleguy
June 17th, 2010, 10:44 PM
There is one reason why people find mainstream music annoying: It all sounds the same. No matter how you look at it, it all sounds the same. You can't listen to the same repeating three chords over and over with little to do in the song. Is there some good mainstream out there? Yes, absolutely. But is it easy to find? No, not at all. Mainstream music is whatever the listeners can obsess over for two weeks until they find a new dick to suck on. It's a vicious circle, but the same in every genre.

I agree with Murdoc when he says mainstream music is whatever we obsess over for a few weeks. Because society defines what mainstream music is, we can control whether it sucks or not. So yes, some mainstream music is entertaining. But because some people like songs that repeat "three chords oevr and over" (to quote Murdoc again), while others don't, mainstream music will always suck in someone's eyes.

Wtficus
June 18th, 2010, 11:38 AM
I LOVE mainstream music! It's pratically all I listen too:).

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l298/Gunpe/2201780162_f903291527.jpg

Dan_UK
June 20th, 2010, 07:41 PM
never heard of it Says the one with a Justin Bieber gif in his signature.

I believe he is just too incompetent at life to even know what the word mainstream means

Why not? Are you saying that you can't get into a band just because no one has heard of them?



That's very true. But I still stand by my belief that the nineties pop charts were a lot like todays in that there was a lot of crap in them. But the awful stuff gets forgotten pretty fast and the worthwhile bands stick around.



yes. this. i agree


WHAT? no no no, maybe it's because the charts are different over in the states, but they are currently the worst they've ever been here, dominated by the one worst genre in music, RnB, where most vocals are full of a hundred synthesisers

in the 90s yes there was a lot of simple pop music, but there was a good mix of other stuff too. These days, urban music has taken over this shitty island

The Batman
June 20th, 2010, 07:52 PM
WHAT? no no no, maybe it's because the charts are different over in the states, but they are currently the worst they've ever been here, dominated by the one worst genre in music, RnB, where most vocals are full of a hundred synthesisers

in the 90s yes there was a lot of simple pop music, but there was a good mix of other stuff too. These days, urban music has taken over this shitty island

Actually, RnB is one of the genres that tend to use real instruments synthesizers are mainly found in Hip Hop and Rap. Also if you're just going to dislike something because it's "urban", which is generally more associated with music made by minorities, not really a good excuse. Just like people hating mainstream music only because it's mainstream. You can hate individual songs or artists but there's always a few songs in a genre that anybody could get into.

Dan_UK
June 20th, 2010, 08:04 PM
Actually, RnB is one of the genres that tend to use real instruments synthesizers are mainly found in Hip Hop and Rap. Also if you're just going to dislike something because it's "urban", which is generally more associated with music made by minorities, not really a good excuse. Just like people hating mainstream music only because it's mainstream. You can hate individual songs or artists but there's always a few songs in a genre that anybody could get into.

I used to listen to mainstream when younger, but then RnB, Hip Hop and Rap started to rise, sorry if I'm naming things wrong but I was using "urban" as an umbrella for those 3 genres.

I generally hate all music in those genres, and it's not like I haven't been subjected to it much, I have a good mate who plays it loudly all the time, I've probably heard hundreds of songs and dislike them all, bar ONE artist, Eminem, but I only really like him because he was around before the rise of rap/hip hop/RnB and also he always had a more genuine feel about his music than "look at me (with my synthesisers and my synchronised dancers) buy my CDs so I can be famous"


Also what genre does T-Pain fall into? that's the kind of person who I meant with the synthesisers

The Batman
June 20th, 2010, 08:23 PM
I used to listen to mainstream when younger, but then RnB, Hip Hop and Rap started to rise, sorry if I'm naming things wrong but I was using "urban" as an umbrella for those 3 genres.

I generally hate all music in those genres, and it's not like I haven't been subjected to it much, I have a good mate who plays it loudly all the time, I've probably heard hundreds of songs and dislike them all, bar ONE artist, Eminem, but I only really like him because he was around before the rise of rap/hip hop/RnB and also he always had a more genuine feel about his music than "look at me (with my synthesisers and my synchronised dancers) buy my CDs so I can be famous"


Also what genre does T-Pain fall into? that's the kind of person who I meant with the synthesisers

He's Hip Hop and once you said synthesizers I figured that's what you meant. I get that, "They aren't playing real instruments anymore" hate for music but the way I look at is they are using the technology we have today to take music to another level.

I don't listen to the radio or watch music on tv so most of the songs I listen to are either recommended by someone else or off of the album of the artist that I got. I have an album form almost every genre in my itunes and I don't limit myself at all to what music I listen to. However, I do discourage others to limit themselves, I believe that people should listen to music with an open mind and not just knock off an entire genre.

Dan_UK
June 20th, 2010, 08:34 PM
He's Hip Hop and once you said synthesizers I figured that's what you meant. I get that, "They aren't playing real instruments anymore" hate for music but the way I look at is they are using the technology we have today to take music to another level.

I don't listen to the radio or watch music on tv so most of the songs I listen to are either recommended by someone else or off of the album of the artist that I got. I have an album form almost every genre in my itunes and I don't limit myself at all to what music I listen to. However, I do discourage others to limit themselves, I believe that people should listen to music with an open mind and not just knock off an entire genre.


I tend to avoid prejudice and I listen to a reasonably wide range of music, but with "urban" music as I call it, I really don't like the overly high pitched vocals from people like chris brown or bieber or akon, or rhianna, but then the lower pitched stuff is pretty bad IMO too, however I do maintain a certain degree of respect for rap, but not RnB and Hip Hop

Bougainvillea
June 20th, 2010, 08:54 PM
however I do maintain a certain degree of respect for rap, but not RnB and Hip Hop

Why?
Try Erykah Badu, and her early album "Baduizm".
It reached 2nd on the Billboard charts. Lead single "On & On" reached 12th on the singles charts in both the U.S. and UK in 1997.
She's my favorite neo soul/R&B artist.

Dan_UK
June 20th, 2010, 09:08 PM
Why?
Try Erykah Badu, and her early album "Baduizm".
It reached 2nd on the Billboard charts. Lead single "On & On" reached 12th on the singles charts in both the U.S. and UK in 1997.
She's my favorite neo soul/R&B artist.

I dislike them for the high pitched vocals

I don't respect them for the same reason as pop, it's done to sell records and create fame rather than love for music

The Batman
June 20th, 2010, 09:17 PM
I dislike them for the high pitched vocals

I don't respect them for the same reason as pop, it's done to sell records and create fame rather than love for music

That's mainly what mainstream rap is. RnB is probably the best place where you can find the love of music in the "urban" music you don't like. Alicia Keys is a prime example of that. She writes most of her music and plays them on the piano.

CantBeTamed
June 21st, 2010, 03:27 AM
I Love Most Music

Filipe
July 11th, 2010, 12:03 PM
You gotta' listen to every type of music to give a halfway decent opinion... I, for instance, love Electro House Music... When I got bored of it, I started making my own electro beats :D