Holocaust Denial

[Iron Man]

Wow! It is fucked up that people say this travesty to human dignity never happened. What are your opinions?

[Sith Lord 13]

Define Holocaust Denial.

To say it never happened is bull shit. To debate numbers, well, it's still bull shit but to a lesser extent.

[Iron Man]

Define Holocaust Denial.

The belief that the Holocaust was a hoax?

[Sith Lord 13]

The belief that the Holocaust was a hoax?

OK. Cause some people define it as saying the holocaust happened, but at much smaller numbers. A few thousand as opposed to more than a million.

[INFERNO]

I don't understand how or why people would suggest the Holocaust was a hoax. For these people, although I've never actually met anyone in reality who believed such a thing, I'm perplexed as to what they believe the Holocaust was instead or why it was "truly" done. For those arguing or calling it a hoax that there were indeed fewer killed, perhaps they are onto something truthful but to me, who cares? Suppose there were only, say, 14,000 killed as opposed to the notion of only 140,000 killed. It's a tragic event either way and was an enormous event either way. Saying it was big but not as big or the opposite, say it was bigger, either way it doesn't detract from the horrible acts that took place. However, when one starts saying it only affected around 100 people, that's dribble and clearly under-represents what actually happened.

[Sith Lord 13]

Encyclopædia Britannica puts it at 6 million.

[Sage]

Encyclopædia Britannica puts it at 6 million.

Only counting the jews is, in another way, partial denial of the Holocaust. They weren't the only people killed. An estimated 11 million or more died, only 6 million of which were jews.

[The Dark Lord]

OK. Cause some people define it as saying the holocaust happened, but at much smaller numbers. A few thousand as opposed to more than a million.

Regardless of numbers, the holocaust was barbaric and sickening. What a stupid thing to say, thousands, millions, hundreds, THE HOLOCAUST WAS WRONG. You would have to be very naive and ignorant to even dispute the scale of the holocaust

[kermit]

I postulate the the Holocaust was indeed a hoax, in the since that it's breadth of destruction, depopulation, and horror, are exaggerated and convoluted to fit the agenda of powerful and influential organizations.

Why is it that people are harassed and condemned for asking questions? Historical revision is an extremely important field for including new insights, perspectives and considerations into the chronology of events that make up a historical situation.

It is of great importance to question accepted science, history, philosophy, morality, religion; the list could expand indefinitely, especially for information learned from institutions which don't always have the best intentions.

If you want to make a decision on weather or not the holocaust was a hoax, you must first understand the state of Europe in the early-mid 19th century, including infrastructural, technological, and material states. Try to encompass what intentions certain empires might have. And then look at the shape of the world in the late 19th century.

I suppose I just mean to say, there's so much to look at. It's a big story. It's not as simple as some mad man and his wishes.

[Jess]

whoever says the Holocaust never happened are idiots.

[Camazotz]

I postulate the the Holocaust was indeed a hoax, in the since that it's breadth of destruction, depopulation, and horror, are exaggerated and convoluted to fit the agenda of powerful and influential organizations.

Sorry Kermit, one cannot exaggerate a statistic. There were a confirmed 11 million deaths resulting from the Holocaust, 6 million being Jews. Denying fact is ignorant.

[INFERNO]

Why is it that people are harassed and condemned for asking questions? Historical revision is an extremely important field for including new insights, perspectives and considerations into the chronology of events that make up a historical situation.

When people deny it happening, that's not a question they're asking, that's a view they've taken based on whatever evidence. If people ask whether it's a hoax, the obvious answer is no because one can see the numbers of people killed. It's only useful if they ask if it's a hoax because of a certain flaw they've seen.


I suppose I just mean to say, there's so much to look at. It's a big story. It's not as simple as some mad man and his wishes.

As much as I do agree with this, the fact of the matter is one cannot reasonably deny the millions of people killed. Photographs, survivor account stories and previous historical reviews all indicate it happened. The reasons why it was said to occur are all very laid out in fact and trying to suggest the reasons given were false. One can identify problems at the time but can one make a direct link that this problem(s) was the reason for the Holocaust? At best it's speculation with no direct links.

[Jenna.]

The Holocaust obviously happened, there are pictures and countless other records to prove it. Only an uneducated moron would say such a thing didn't happen. And even if it was "only a few thousand" people that died (which it obviously wasn't) that's still HORRIBLE. Nothing to dismiss.

[Amnesiac]

With all historical events there are going to be people that deny it ever happened. It's not just holocaust denial, but moon landing denial, and those who believe that all of human history is a lie due to aliens, God, monoliths, ect. ect. The holocaust isn't immune from these people, and it's attacked even more because it's such a controversial and relatively recent event. Some people are deluded into believing that Jews are evil and have somehow crafted the story of the holocaust to make people feel sorry for them. That's what comes out of groups of people who interpret the Bible/other religious texts literally (or the wrong way) and develop beliefs that most of us would find terrible.

[Awesome]

People "want" to think events like these were smaller than history tells us. Everybody knows it happened. But there will always be different points of views on it.