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Justwondering
June 8th, 2010, 11:12 AM
http://www.vevo.com/watch/lady-gaga/alejandro/USUV71000865

Jamie
June 8th, 2010, 11:17 AM
She's just getting stupid with these videos now.

Atonement
June 8th, 2010, 11:30 AM
This video, though incredibly bizarre and unusual, it is fantastically creative and artistic. I don't think its "stupid". It may not make sense, but it has more artistic value in it than most music or videos I hear through my day.

Jamie
June 8th, 2010, 11:32 AM
Yeah.. it really doesn't. It's something she's trying very hard with to follow up Bad Romance's and Telephone's video. Both of which were very good, this one however is even more mindless than Telephone.

deadpie
June 8th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Once you create something really fucking good, it's hard to keep fans pleased with new creations. So I understand why you guys are bitching.

Someone on tumblr said -
it’s about gay rights. it’s about gay men not being able to come out and being trapped in fake marriages with women (hence the puppet strings) and about how religion and society play a role in this entrapment - hence the mob imagery and the christian symbolism. the way their throwing her around is about them fighting back and taking their resentment out on the women they marry.


So yes, call the video mindless. You obviously aren't seeing anything in the video that gives hints what it is about. The reason I like Lady Gaga is because she puts shock culture in pop music then throws a very impressive style of art into it. This video, the message is very clear to me like some of her others. Telephone was just a movie type thing. This one and a couple others have their own meaning.

JackOfClubs
June 8th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Yes, its creative and artsy. But I hate the song so I couldn't watch the whole thing.

spw184
June 9th, 2010, 05:17 PM
The only lady gaga song i like
videos chicken s***

Dorsum Oppel
June 10th, 2010, 10:31 AM
I posted this in the shoutbox earlier:

I guess that we should all realize that Lady Gaga is Lady Gaga, therefor she can make a video with dancing stripper nazi's engaging in oddly sexual dancing with eachother, gang rape of nuns, a funeral for what appears to be a raw steak, lots of bowl cuts, guns that extend from her nipples, were she swallows a crucifix ...and does a guy of the butt. Oh, and then melts. o___o

My joking about her fucking trip of a music video aside: I truly enjoy Gaga. People see her shocking tactics, and refuse to look past it taking on a "Anyone who dances around in their under wear and has a seizure in a bathtub with crackout eyes can't have anylevel of artistic ability! This is STUPID!"

Oh, you mean what every contemporary artist in the last century has done to great success? You see, artist aren't catpulted into fame anymore, because not many people appear to care about them. But Gaga, by entering the pop music industry and combining it with shock culture to gain a standing out in the crowd, is able to put her self in the position similar to what andy warhol might've seen. Controversial, deliciously wierd, artistic fame.

Patchy
June 10th, 2010, 11:05 AM
This video, though incredibly bizarre and unusual, it is fantastically creative and artistic. I don't think its "stupid". It may not make sense, but it has more artistic value in it than most music or videos I hear through my day.

Totally agree with you Addi!

Felt a bit wrong watching it with my mum but I thought it was awesome :)

Justwondering
June 10th, 2010, 04:57 PM
From GagaDaily.com

The best description of the symbolism portrayed in 'Alejandro':

"@Leopardwarhead says:

I’m going to basically explain this video to everyone that’s either disgusted by this, indifferent or simply does not ‘understand it.’

The soldiers in this video are meant to represent the gay, transgendered and bisexual men in this society that are *expected* to be aggressive and fully ‘masculine’ men. Them marching around in synchronized form represents the role that they’re expected to play in society – Always marching in a tight pattern, never meant to branch off from that gender role. However, as the video progresses, you see Gaga in and out of scenes, wearing these religious outfits. Those outfits are symbols for the intense religious Christian-Catholic backlash that the LGBT community experiences from religious zealots with how they say that ‘gays are going to hell’, ‘you need jesus,’ ‘being gay is a sin,’ etc.

Gaga is not meant to be the focus of this video. Gaga is simply a symbol for how conflicting religion becomes when a gay man has to emotionally deal with accepting that he’s ‘gay’ when his religion tells him that it’s a sin. Gaga is a modern symbol of the virgin Mary – a cold, religiously bound woman who cares about serving and satisfying Christ. That’s very blatant and evident in what she wears, the crosses in the background, her swallowing rosemary beads, and so on. As the video carries on, you see her getting “felt up” by a man in a scene with various beds.

Those beds are metaphors for what gay men experience when they’re trying to fight their growing erections from their fantasies when trying to sleep at night. During the day, society pressures them to act a certain way, to truly be the biased aggressive man. But as soon as they’re alone, even if they still ‘look’ manly and assertive, their feminine aspect of their sexuality comes to the forefront and they express their fantasies in the dead of night. Also stands for the millions of gays, transgendered and cross dressers that can only show their *true* selves at night when greater society isn’t watching. These few scenes are increasingly sexual in order to show the massive, heated underlying sexual conflict that gay men experience within themselves. It’s restless, monsterous and almost unbearable because society tells them that they shouldn’t express their feelings towards other men.

“Alejandro” is a metaphor for society’s gender role of the aggressive man that society yearns for.
The ‘nazi costumes’ are symbols that we are so bound to fulfill gender roles assigned by society to the point where we are psychologically placed into internment camps. Meaning that we’re forced to act a certain way in fear of being shunned, abandoned, alienated or ridiculed. When gay men get mixed up into that, they portray ‘nazis’ in this video or simply ‘strong military men’ to once again show the roles that they’re expected to play by culture’s eyes.

Gaga is a symbol of how mainstream Christianity and Catholicism religions see the LGBT community.
The ‘funeral’ represents the LGBT community ‘killing’ those mainstream biased gender roles.
The continuous emphasis on showing that one man as ‘Alejandro’ with a scene of a riot playing behind him represents how, despite his throbbing sexuality – he must fulfill his role as a ‘man’ by staying silent as he listens to riots break out surrounding the tension around his sexuality."

Contra
June 14th, 2010, 06:29 AM
I love this song, but I think the video is too heavy for it. It may be meaningful, but she should have chosen this video to another song.

Ryhanna
June 14th, 2010, 06:40 AM
I rather enjoyed the video.

It's different. She's different. I like different. I like how unique her video's are and that she doesn't just film herself jumping around in a club or in front of a greenscreen every video. I also like the meaning of the video.

Black or White
June 14th, 2010, 05:37 PM
Im not keen on the song at all, I have heard my girlfriend playing it almost all day :D

Kitty Purry
June 14th, 2010, 09:41 PM
It's a really really creative music video. But I don't really like it LOL. :D

dhjgfdgrrr
June 14th, 2010, 10:28 PM
idk what to think of it! LIke I LOVE her and her music, and I really like the video, but there's also something confusing about it...so idk

Cinderandsmoke
June 16th, 2010, 09:37 PM
I love the video and the song. She is inspirational to me because she doesn't conform to other peoples standards. She is who she is, take it or leave it.

CantBeTamed
June 21st, 2010, 03:30 AM
i like it

Sugaree
June 21st, 2010, 10:57 PM
Took me a few watchings to really get into it. I thought it was ok at first, but it's actually pretty good now that I find the symbolism and meanings in it. I'll agree with another poster, the video was a tad bit heavy, but I think it fit the song itself perfectly.

Branman
June 22nd, 2010, 01:08 AM
I'm not going to go on and on in paragraphs about lady gaga this time. I watched the video 2 minutes after it was released, fell in love yet again with another masterpiece and I watch the video a couple times everyday. My wife looks amazing like usual and she gives me another great dance routine to learn. I've already created a head piece inspired by the video and I've done a photoshoot for it and lastly the remixed bit towards the end in the leather jacket and undies is the sexiest thing ever

NeverTooLate
June 22nd, 2010, 01:48 AM
I love the vid and all that it stands for..

confusedboy
June 22nd, 2010, 12:55 PM
I know I'm a lil late with this comment... but pure art! <3 GaGa 4ever.

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