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Kaius
June 3rd, 2010, 06:56 AM
A gunman killed at least 12 people in a rampage through quiet towns in and around the scenic Lake District on Wednesday in Britain's worst shooting spree for 14 years

Terrified locals and walkers were told to stay indoors as 52-year-old taxi driver Derrick Bird opened fire on people in towns across the rural, sparsely populated county of Cumbria, one of the nation's top tourist destinations.

As well as the 12 dead, 25 people were wounded, including three in critical condition, in shootings in 30 locations.

After a huge manhunt, Bird's body was found in a secluded area in Boot, a remote hamlet in the Eskdale valley, an area popular with hillwalkers. Police said he was believed to have killed himself.

"This has shocked the people of Cumbria, and around the country, to the core," said Stuart Hyde, Assistant Chief Constable of Cumbria Police.

"We are still at a very early stage in our investigation and we are not able to really understand the motivation behind it or establish whether this was a premeditated or random attack."

The Queen said in a brief message she was "deeply shocked" by the news and shared the "grief and horror of the whole country."

Multiple shootings are rare in Britain where there are strict gun controls.

In 1996, a gunman massacred 16 children and their teacher in the Scottish town of Dunblane, and a man shot dead 16 people in the southern English town of Hungerford in 1987.

The Dunblane killings led to the adoption of new laws which banned civilian ownership of handguns and forced owners of other weapons to obtain a certificate from the police.

Government figures showed there were certificates for almost 1.37 million shotguns in March 2009. Police said they were investigating where Bird got the two weapons he used in the attacks and whether they were legally owned.

TAXI DRIVERS' DISPUTE

The shootings began in the coastal town of Whitehaven where Bird worked.

"He had a dispute with a taxi driver yesterday morning which carried on into today. He absolutely lost the plot," Lorraine Rimmer, who works for a taxi firm in the town, told Reuters. "He was a bit of a loner who hardly spoke to people."

As police chased Bird for three hours through sleepy towns and villages across Cumbria, frightened locals were told to shelter indoors. The gunman eventually dumped his car and headed on foot through picturesque areas popular with walkers.

Landlord Sean King said police had warned him that the gunman was heading towards his pub in Boot, population 15. "It was very unnerving," King told Reuters, saying there had been a stream of hikers heading to his pub for shelter.

He said Bird's body was believed to have been found about 200 yards (metres) from his pub.

Prime Minister David Cameron said local communities would be shattered by the killings. "The government will do everything it possibly can to help the local community and those affected," he told parliament.

During the manhunt, the Sellafield nuclear reprocessing plant in Seascale said all the site's gates had been closed and staff had been told to stay at their posts, but its operations were unaffected.

Source (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100602/tuk-uk-britain-shooting-fa6b408.html)

Sith Lord 13
June 4th, 2010, 12:16 AM
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Multiple shootings are rare in Britain where there are strict gun controls.

In 1996, a gunman massacred 16 children and their teacher in the Scottish town of Dunblane, and a man shot dead 16 people in the southern English town of Hungerford in 1987.

The Dunblane killings led to the adoption of new laws which banned civilian ownership of handguns and forced owners of other weapons to obtain a certificate from the police.


Perhaps if gun controls were less strict, someone would have been able to stop him before the body count got that high.

Gun controls - making sure the only people with guns are ones who don't care about the law.

Kaius
June 4th, 2010, 08:10 AM
Not really. If they were less strict more people would own guns regardless. Also America's gun laws depending on state are a lot less strict than ours yet have more mass shootings. So making it less stricter wouldn't really make a difference. it'd just be easier for someone like that to get hold of a gun.

Blood
June 4th, 2010, 10:04 AM
*Sigh* Those poor people. I feel for them.

Sith Lord 13
June 5th, 2010, 01:43 AM
Not really. If they were less strict more people would own guns regardless. Also America's gun laws depending on state are a lot less strict than ours yet have more mass shootings. So making it less stricter wouldn't really make a difference. it'd just be easier for someone like that to get hold of a gun.

Have any of those mass shootings occurred in places where many people frequently carry weapons?

I believe, once you pass a psych test, every non-criminal should be required to carry a gun, beginning at the age of 18. It's Mutual Assured Destruction on a local level. No one wants to attempt a violent crime because they know their victim will be able to fight back.

steve1234
June 5th, 2010, 03:12 PM
I have been to this town on holiday once! Can't believe it.

The media was quick to blame our gun laws, even though they are they strictest in Europe. If guns were COMPLETLEY banned in the UK, then this wouldn't really make a difference because if a psycho wanted to kill loads of people, then they would just get a gun illegally then use it. Maybe a complete ban will make it harder for people like this to get hold of guns though.
Also, if you had a complete ban, then what will all the farmers etc do, who use them to kill predators of their animals etc, and various other people who need guns in their jobs.

The Lake District (Cumbria) doesn't seem to be having much luck at the moment, with those Carlisle floods last year, that recent coach crash killing a few teenagers, and now this mass murder :what:

The Dark Lord
June 5th, 2010, 04:33 PM
It would be over reactive and wrong to amend the gun laws due to this. like David Cameron said no amount of legisation can stop people "flipping out"

scuba steve
June 5th, 2010, 05:10 PM
i've been following this on the news for the past few days, the guy was a fuckin twat, preying on those who can't defend themeselves. i stand by my views of our British police having too many powers restricted.

Eskimo
June 5th, 2010, 07:51 PM
oh my, thats terrible, I feel sorry for those innocent people.