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Kahn
May 23rd, 2010, 10:00 PM
When 4-year-old Ethan Stacy was reluctantly sent off to spend the summer with his mother late last month, he was in effect being given a death sentence.

The child never had a chance. He was dead within two weeks of arriving at the apartment in Layton, Utah, where his mother lived with her fiancé.

What could have been done to save him?

"I don't have a good answer for you," Layton police Lt. Garret Atkin, one of many law enforcement officers in Davis County, Utah, who are grieving for the boy who lived among them so briefly, told me.

The facts of what happened to Ethan speak for themselves:

He was living with his father, Joe G. Stacy, in Richlands, Virginia. Stacy and his estranged wife, Stephanie, were involved in divorce proceedings. The divorce was being adjudicated in Florida, where they had lived before she moved west.

Joe Stacy, in a divorce court filing last November, warned of his fears.

His estranged wife was "unstable," he wrote to the court: "The mother has abandoned the child and I'm afraid the mother will come and take him and I'll never see him again."

But the judge in the divorce case, Maura T. Smith, told The Associated Press that she never read the filing. Judge Smith said that Ethan's parents had worked out a settlement, including shared custody, and that the finalization of their divorce last month was "cut and dried."

Part of the decree was that Ethan would live with his dad during the school year, and with his mother during the summer.

The child reportedly did not want to go to Utah with her. "I did not want him to go, and he didn't want to go at all," Joe Stacy told the Salt Lake Tribune. "He kept telling me he didn't want to go."

But in late April, the divorce agreement newly in effect, the boy was put on a plane to fly to Utah with his mother.

What allegedly happened next is described in affidavits prepared by the Layton Police Department:

Ethan, his mother and her fiancé, Nathan Sloop, began living in their Layton home.

On May 5, Nathan Sloop, 31, took the 4-year-old child into a bedroom and began slapping and hitting him on the face and head, police said. Ethan's face began to swell. Police said his mother did not alert anyone or seek medical attention for her son.

Rest of this sad story here; EDHtD (http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/05/20/greene.ethan.stacy/index.html?hpt=C2)

HillBillyWilly
May 23rd, 2010, 10:06 PM
this is what's wrong with the world.

and besides, if he kept saying he didn't want to go, why wouldnt they have sensed something there?

Iron Man
May 23rd, 2010, 10:35 PM
This is why I hate people. That child did nothing wrong, and he had to pay with his life. I wonder why they let some crackheads to have children, but not homosexuals. Sad, sad little world.

MaliciousBunface
May 23rd, 2010, 10:44 PM
:/ That's just so stupid..the boy didn't do anything.

Whisper
May 23rd, 2010, 11:29 PM
judges almost ALWAYS side with the mother
its gay
but the system as a whole is severely flawed

Sith Lord 13
May 23rd, 2010, 11:58 PM
I hate humans. No other species would intentionally injure it's own young like this.

Scarface
May 24th, 2010, 12:05 AM
This is ludicrous the judge as well as the father should have known that the mother is unstable and should have restricted her visitation rights. As said above by Whisper that the courts have a tendency to side with the mother however in this scenario it should have been apparent that she isn't suitable to be a parent and the poor child's death was the result unfortunately of they're oblivious and careless decision.

Jess
May 24th, 2010, 03:13 PM
that poor boy :( he shouldn't have been sent to his mother

Nelson
May 24th, 2010, 07:04 PM
That is so fucked... thats all i can say

The Batman
May 24th, 2010, 07:20 PM
I hate humans. No other species would intentionally injure it's own young like this.

Some animals eat their own kids...

Origami
May 24th, 2010, 07:23 PM
Other species? Do male bears not try eat cubs?

Ryhanna
May 24th, 2010, 07:42 PM
and besides, if he kept saying he didn't want to go, why wouldnt they have sensed something there?

Actually, my cousin is in a similar situation.

legally, he had to see the father because he is under 12. The father used to hit him, which is why my family doesn't want him to see the father. The same with this kid, I'm guessing...

So pretty much, neither of these two kids had much of a choice.

Frankenstein's Bride
May 24th, 2010, 08:33 PM
This case is sounds so much like the story of lattie Mcgee, poor dears :(

DayBreakArt
May 24th, 2010, 08:57 PM
Reading this breaks my heart. He died because of other people's decisions. He was effing 4 for fucks sakes! Terrible. People disgust me.

Jess
May 24th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Some animals eat their own kids...


Yeah some animals eat their own kids.

Kahn
May 24th, 2010, 09:07 PM
Yeah some animals eat their own kids.

No need to repeat the obvious.

mrmcdonaldduck
May 25th, 2010, 06:03 AM
this is what is wrong with the divorce courts. for some strange reason, a woman, no matter how bad a parent, or how mentally unstable atoumatically has rights to her child for extended periods of time. where as a loving father, who had done nothing wrong and is getting taken for half of his money in the process, gets 3 hours on a saturday afternoon.

It should have been clear to anyone with eyes that the father was a much, MUCH better option, but not to a divorce court.

Divorce courts are incredibly biased towards women, and men have little chance in such courts.

but i am not saying that in most cases the mother is unsuitable. most of the time the mother is the best option, but sometimes when a blatantly crap mother gets her kids like this, it shows the huge flaws in the system. poor ethan neednt have died if he stayed with his father. he didnt deserve this, no one did.

steve1234
May 25th, 2010, 03:00 PM
In the past, there were laws which benefited men rather than women. Feminism came along and now some men are starting to be treated worse than women. I'm guessing the majority of feminists dont care about equal rights if they have advantages over men.
I want equal rights for everyone, and in the divorce courts, the father and mother should be treated the same, no matter what genitals they have. Any logical person would have seen the father of Ethan was the better parent, so he should have got custody.
I dream of a day where laws treat people equally, but by the time that happens i will probably be dead.

Hollywood
May 25th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Sometimes the parents really are the stupid ones. Forcing kids to do things like that is crazy, and look, now he's dead. Wow.

Jess
May 25th, 2010, 03:14 PM
In the past, there were laws which benefited men rather than women. Feminism came along and now some men are starting to be treated worse than women. I'm guessing the majority of feminists dont care about equal rights if they have advantages over men.
I want equal rights for everyone, and in the divorce courts, the father and mother should be treated the same, no matter what genitals they have. Any logical person would have seen the father of Ethan was the better parent, so he should have got custody.
I dream of a day where laws treat people equally, but by the time that happens i will probably be dead.

I agree with you

YesterdaysNews
May 25th, 2010, 09:41 PM
People like this make me sick.
A) How could anyone beat a child...
B) How could a mother be so fucking cruel
C) You have to be pretty twisted to think bashing his face in will get you out of trouble

Bastards.

charlie w
May 30th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Excuse my language but this is the perfect example to show that life is fucked up sometimes.