What are your views

[Shaolin]

How does everyone feel about anti-drug campaigns. Do you think they actually cut down on drugs use?

Do you think the government are going about the right way to cut down on drug abuse. Do you think shock/scare tactics are more helpful in cutting down drug abuse, more so than facts?

Id like to read some real life opinions. Thankyou if you can reply to this.

[nwshc]

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[Whisper]

nwshc KISS MY ASS, leave Shaolin alone you dink!

I honestly don't know if they help but to be honest I think it's better then not having them period.

[Shaolin]

Ignore Nwsch, he aimed me telling me to fuck my mother and a barrage of other insults. (hah)

He asked me to prove i wasnt pulling my 'facts' out of my ass, that a third of the population have tried drugs. I showed him a government webpage with those very same statistics.

He just continued insulting me.

Fading dream i think your right, that having even anti drugs information, is better than nothing.

Id like it to be more fact based though.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

I'm glad he did, you sure did deserve it. Thanks for telling us all that he insulted you, I think more highly of him now :)

[Shaolin]

I think ill delete your posts if they don't relate to the thread subject. Or ill move them to the trashcan.

Im not threatening you, just please stop coming in her to pick fights with me about my stance on drug abuse. I believe people who dont want to take drugs, shouldn't if someone forces them to. I believe someone who takes drugs, will not stop if you tell them to, because i know that from experiance.

Prevention is a good method to stop drug use, by giving people the facts - they then decide wether its worth it or not. No amount of biased information will dissuade drug users. Information about Ecstacy causing brain damage hasn't stopped them, the rates have increased in fact.

Second to prevention comes HARM REDUCTION, safe methods of taking drugs. A heroin addict will stop at nothing to get his fix, if he is heavily addicted, so providing them with clean needles (to cut down on AIDs and other blood transmitted diseases), cotton wool pads and first aid kits is not pro drugs, it's common sense.

Now give HELPFUL advise or i will do something about you. Stop coming in her and ranting at me, leave that for the debate forum!

[Whisper]

Fading dream i think your right, that having even anti drugs information, is better than nothing.

Id like it to be more fact based though.

I agree, give them the information, the stats and let them decide. I've always been told that drugs are BAD!!!! But I unno anymore, I've read allot of your posts which spiked my curiosity so I went in look of info online. I still have no intrest in doing them but I'm not so sure there bad. I met a guy a few days ago we hang out n goof around on Xbox he's into drugs yet he's smart, funny, lives out on his own in a nice app, no problems at work nuthin....So, yea.

To be honest I still think it should be illigal to do it anywhere you want though, it would be cool if you could go somewhere and do it, somewhere that has nurses n stuff incase sumthin happens. But at the same time kept it away from lil kids and made sure nobody could get hurt er whatever.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

just read this. im not trying to shove anything down your throat, and neither is the National Institute on Drug Abuse. they got lots of information on drugs, lots of stats, and methods of prevention and ways to help.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofax/Infofaxindex.html

[boognish]

i think that the commercials are dumb. they need to be more truthful. there was one commercial that showed a bunch of guys high. they went through a drive thru like 5 times, all the time laughing and having fun. then the 6th time the ran over a girl. great message. 5/6 you'll have fun. 1/6 times you might hit a little girl, while your going 5 mph out of the drive thru. think about how bad drugs are.

also i'd like to point out that that was a survey. no hard facts. if they asked every single person in the us, i'd agree. but i was never asked. why? cause if drug users were asked, we would know that 50% of the population do drugs and like 80% tried it. i may be way off, im know to exagerate figures, but alot of people try/do drugs daily

[Shaolin]

As i've said countless times before NIDA is a biased source, i did not know it was the same organisation that made those adverts.

They are laughably biased. You don't see Pro legalisation adverts that have people smoking pot saying "yeah this is GOOD for you"..

So obviously it's a one sided issue, as far as society is concerned. The government runs everything.

[nwshc]

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[Shaolin]

Infact i had been PM'ed by the Admin of this site to warn me to stop advocating drug use. That shows that the government influence has obviously rubbed off somewhere. People can't even voice their own opinions, and i have never told anyone to outright do drugs, im more than happy to dissuade you from them, but i'll be willing to tell someone who is addicted to heroin, how to safely use it to avoid as much harm to themselves and others, such as using a clean syringe each time, to reduce chances of infection.

[Shaolin]

I read somewhere that these strong presence of drugs are bad (by having the teachers shove down your mouth that they are bad every friggin day, commercials ect.) it increase the curiosity of the drug to kids.

Well yes, because your exposing to teenagers the fact that other teenagers are doing drugs.

When they give out leaflets on drugs, for most teenagers it's good information that backs up their stance that drugs are bad. A good number of students will find it as a good resource, or shopping list...

I just think that drug control would be far more effective if it were legal. It would be treated as a medical problem rather than a criminal problem. Addiction is a medical problem, not something hte police can cut down on. Infact they are fueling this business by making them refine their methods.

Just take a look at how many hundreds of recreational drugs are altered or created and are still under the law, most of them wont go further than a curious chemists laboratory, however a good few might become the E of tommorow or the LSD in twenty years, who knows what it will be called.

So really is there any point in fighting this war? Take a look at tobacco, it used to be a hugely socially accepted thing, it's legal with restrictions, and now a minority of people smoke. That's been treated as a medical problem, nicotene dependance, and so should drugs.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

it is a medical problem. thats why most people are sent to rehab centerse by court order.

and if you give up the war, how can you ever win it?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

and who are you to say that the admisistrator of this site is influenced by the government? thats rediculous

[Shaolin]

err WTF...

I never said you were pityful for considering suicide, i just speculated that you probably didn't attempt it as you lied about the medication dose you were on and it just didn't seem like a real suicide confession.

IT would have been more like a heart pouring vent about your life in your last post of VT, but your still here..in good physical condition, and thats all that matters.

Also who are you to say im pestering people, youve so far trolled me in about 3 threads.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

it doesnt matter what you meant to say, it matters how they here it

[Shaolin]

it doesnt matter what you meant to say, it matters how they here it

Right....

Your the biggest hipocrit here... You called someone a pity whore for explaining they had a suicide attempt, and asked if it was their second time. You said "If you do drugs i hope you die" and you told Thomas you to go off and kill himself because no one likes him.

[AC/DC HaLO 2]

dare is wat caused me to do drugs lol thank you dare!

[RickJames]

lol therapy for drugs well maby if he has a crack problem but chances are he smokes weed and there aint nuthing wrong with that :wink: