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Xenomi
May 19th, 2010, 10:06 PM
i was in my Sports Medicine class the other day and learned somthing i thought was interesting.
Of protein, carbohydrates and fats: What order do you think is most needed for your body?
**please note, this is not about body building. It is about a daily intake of these items by the average person**
Xenomi
May 19th, 2010, 10:11 PM
my teacher said that the RDA of these things in your diet is:
-Carbs 60% of your diet
-Fats 30% of your diet
-Protein 10% of your diet
Jess
May 20th, 2010, 06:12 AM
carbs definitely
Asylum
May 20th, 2010, 11:48 AM
protein, carbs, then fat
georgiamay
May 21st, 2010, 03:09 PM
i think it depends on different things, like if you're a gymnast, you'll need more protein than others, and if you're a long distance runner, you'll need more carbs than others, etc. etc.
but i'd say for the average person it goes protein/carbs/fat.
dbrkk
May 23rd, 2010, 12:25 AM
Carbs, fat, then protein...
Something I've noticed.. Carbs make me feel the most energetic before a workout. With fats, I don't feel as energetic, however I can still push pretty hard. But if I've just eaten something with a bunch of protein, I feel sluggish. Weird how that works...
Xenomi
May 26th, 2010, 09:37 AM
Carbs, fat, then protein...
Something I've noticed.. Carbs make me feel the most energetic before a workout. With fats, I don't feel as energetic, however I can still push pretty hard. But if I've just eaten something with a bunch of protein, I feel sluggish. Weird how that works...
That's exactly how you're supposed to feel....
carbohydrates are the fastest and most efficient means of getting energy, as they are very easy to break down by our bodies and are quickly converted into sugar and then energy.
Fats are the second source of energy our bodies use. They are not as easily broken down so our body stores the fat until we use up all the energy from the carbs.
Protien is the last resort of energy for our bodies. This is because muscles are made of protien. When you start using protien for energy, your body starts breaking down the muscles.
scuba steve
May 26th, 2010, 09:43 AM
i chose fat, then protein and carbs. since you need fat as your base source of energy, protein then helps you build on your muscle and carbs boosts your energy.
Xenomi
May 26th, 2010, 09:44 AM
Another thing,
protien shakes, protien bars, creatine, and other things made of highly concentrated protien are completely useless to you after about a week or so. This is because muscles can only store a certain amount of protien, when the limit has been reached your body starts flushing your system of the unneeded protien (and any other nutrient you get too much of) causing you too pee and sweat way too much. This ultimately can lead to severe dehydration and possibly even death. I can't remember the number, but my class had a discussion about this and my teacher said many of the sports related high school deaths come from dehydration that leads into heat stroke.
CaptainObvious
May 27th, 2010, 09:49 AM
The answer is, as a proportion of diet almost all humans will eat the most carbs, followed by fat and then protein. Carbs will often constitute a majority of total calories, though not always.
my teacher said that the RDA of these things in your diet is:
-Carbs 60% of your diet
-Fats 30% of your diet
-Protein 10% of your diet
Yeah, but RDAs are pretty meaningless. I need far more than 10% protein to continue good muscle development (at least, assuming I'm eating my normal amount at ~2200 calories/day), and would ideally prefer to eat less fat (to the extent that's possible).
Another thing,
protien shakes, protien bars, creatine, and other things made of highly concentrated protien are completely useless to you after about a week or so. This is because muscles can only store a certain amount of protien, when the limit has been reached your body starts flushing your system of the unneeded protien (and any other nutrient you get too much of) causing you too pee and sweat way too much. This ultimately can lead to severe dehydration and possibly even death. I can't remember the number, but my class had a discussion about this and my teacher said many of the sports related high school deaths come from dehydration that leads into heat stroke.
You've either misunderstood what your teacher said or your teacher taught it wrong. The body does have a limit on how much protein it can absorb: your body can only process about 50-60 grams of protein per meal. But note, per meal. As long as protein is eaten in properly sized portions and properly spaced throughout the day, one can consume a large amount of protein without it being uselessly flushed, and protein supplements are integral in this regard. It's wrong to say these supplements lose effectiveness after a week; you can keep using them effectively for long periods of time, as long as you're ensuring that you're not eating excessive protein at one time.
And while your teacher is right that many or even most deaths in high school sports are due to heatstroke, to assume that that heatstroke is connected to overconsumption of protein is also wrong. The heatstroke that so often afflicts high school athletes is entirely due to many coaches' inability to detect the difference between fatigue and more serious heatstroke on hot practice days, not because of some kind of overconsumption of protein.
bmurdock60
May 27th, 2010, 05:09 PM
carbs for sure
Xenomi
May 28th, 2010, 11:36 PM
yeah i guess i was taught wrong cuz i was reading my notes from class as i wrote this lol
Elissa
September 15th, 2010, 04:22 AM
I noticed that certain Asian races gain fat in the stomach and face when they are fat or obese. Certain Caucasians gain more in their upper arms and legs as well as their stomach but tend to not get chubby or store fat in their face. How is this biologically/genetically determined on where the fat deposits are stored?
Magus
September 15th, 2010, 06:57 AM
You've either misunderstood what your teacher said or your teacher taught it wrong. The body does have a limit on how much protein it can absorb: your body can only process about 50-60 grams of protein per meal. But note, per meal. As long as protein is eaten in properly sized portions and properly spaced throughout the day, one can consume a large amount of protein without it being uselessly flushed, and protein supplements are integral in this regard. It's wrong to say these supplements lose effectiveness after a week; you can keep using them effectively for long periods of time, as long as you're ensuring that you're not eating excessive protein at one time.
And while your teacher is right that many or even most deaths in high school sports are due to heatstroke, to assume that that heatstroke is connected to overconsumption of protein is also wrong. The heatstroke that so often afflicts high school athletes is entirely due to many coaches' inability to detect the difference between fatigue and more serious heatstroke on hot practice days, not because of some kind of overconsumption of protein.
Nice info there. :yes:
I heard that potato gets easily converted into sugar, then into energy. But what if we are sleeping the whole day(physically inactive), wouldn't they get converted into fats? And, I wonder about the period of conversion. Man, I ate mayonnaise+Ketchup Potato and Burger yesterday(at night - I guess it is the wrong time), I wonder if I can lose all those sugar, fats and stuff today. Is it possible to do so?
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Usually, I eat egg in any day breakfast. That's the only time in the morning I get to see protein. Also, what's the story behind "No white bread" things?
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About the heatstrokes - Those juices that says they can bring up "Hydrolysis" or something, are these myths or real?
Triceratops
September 15th, 2010, 01:05 PM
RDA's are bullshit.
Apparently I would need 2,200 calories to MAINTAIN my weight on weeks I'm at my most active. That's a lot for a girl (but it's not like I'm incapable of it lol :/). Jeeze, I often eat way MORE than that and I don't gain weight or anything, but that's because the number of calories I'm burning through exercise is a fair amount.
I'd say the more active you are, you'd need more carbs. That's what my mom's boyfriend told me - and he's a personal trainer.
I don't give a shit, just pick it up and eat it. :)
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