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Antonioc
May 17th, 2010, 04:19 PM
Cigarettes are much worse for your health, but weed is illegal. So, which is it more wrong to do: Smoke weed or smoke cigarettes?

It's wrong to smoke weed because it's illegal, but it's bad to smoke cigarettes because of what they do to you... So when you compare, which do you see as better?

My answer's weed. 30 years from now, I'd rather have bent the law a little bit then have lung cancer. ;D

xXWatEvsXxXx
May 17th, 2010, 05:14 PM
you shouldnt do either =/

HillBillyWilly
May 17th, 2010, 05:35 PM
I was always under the impression that both are bad for you but weed is worse (and technically cigs are illegal if you are a minor, which most of us here are)

Peace God
May 17th, 2010, 05:54 PM
Cigarettes are nasty imo, i only smoke weed.
I was always under the impression that both are bad for you but weed is worse
half a million americans die from cigarettes every year but weed is worse?

Antonioc
May 17th, 2010, 07:02 PM
half a million americans die from cigarettes every year but weed is worse?

I know, isn't that so confusing? How can so many people die from cigarettes, but none die from weed, which is worse for you?

Kaius
May 17th, 2010, 07:07 PM
Tbh the way i see it, cigarettes are always gonna be bad for you, however much you smoke them. Weed however has some medicinal purposes. So although it can cause serious side effects it does have its positive side.

Zazu
May 18th, 2010, 09:43 AM
If I were to smoke anything, it would be weed over tobacco all the time. Far far far less harmful and has a lot more uses.

Asylum
May 18th, 2010, 10:38 AM
i'd say neither are good, i really can't pick one or the other. i've had a grandfather die of lung cancer from smoking and an uncle who is an addict and grew marjiunna in his attic, he is now homeless and on the streets.. so ... neither is good...

Jess
May 18th, 2010, 11:19 AM
neither. both can kill you

Zeh Crazy
May 18th, 2010, 03:45 PM
Antonioc, I'm so glad you made a thread for this. This is one of the topics that I feel very passionate about. When people at my school smoke cigs, they think it is harmless, but when they find out someone has smoked weed, they make it a big deal when it's a natural plant and say that you're gonna die and all that crap, when clearly and statistically, cigarettes have killed millions of people and weed, none. No one has ever died from smoking weed. Yes, it can impair your judgment and coordination, but it's benefits outweigh the risks.

Weed

*doesn't lower IQ.
*natural herb
*relieves pain.
*gives sense of well-being. (Don't we all want that?)
*not physically addictive (no withdrawals)
*fun and entertaining
*helps you relax.
*Anything pleasurable is multiplied because of endorphines (natural chemical in brain that gives pleasant feeling) is released
*allows you to open up.

CaliKid24
May 23rd, 2010, 03:15 PM
Antonioc, I'm so glad you made a thread for this. This is one of the topics that I feel very passionate about. When people at my school smoke cigs, they think it is harmless, but when they find out someone has smoked weed, they make it a big deal when it's a natural plant and say that you're gonna die and all that crap, when clearly and statistically, cigarettes have killed millions of people and weed, none. No one has ever died from smoking weed. Yes, it can impair your judgment and coordination, but it's benefits outweigh the risks.

Weed

*doesn't lower IQ.
*natural herb
*relieves pain.
*gives sense of well-being. (Don't we all want that?)
*not physically addictive (no withdrawals)
*fun and entertaining
*helps you relax.
*Anything pleasurable is multiplied because of endorphines (natural chemical in brain that gives pleasant feeling) is released
*allows you to open up.

u forgot that cigs cause cancer and weed can actually kill cancer cells,

Nickk XD
May 23rd, 2010, 04:31 PM
But how much weed can you actually smoke compared to cigarettes.

Most people smoke way less weed because of its tiring effects.

Cigarette smokers smoke 5 times more cigs than a pot smoker does joints.

If you were able to smoke the same amount of marijuana, more people, by far, would die.

Cigarettes are nasty imo, i only smoke weed.

half a million americans die from cigarettes every year but weed is worse?

Weed does not kill cancer cells.

Weed in fact does contain a few carcinogenic hydrocarbons, which cause cancer.

Weed simply reduces the effects of chemo therapy for people who already have cancer (like you're able to eat more, less nausea, less pain, etc) and therefore can help you live mildly longer.

u forgot that cigs cause cancer and weed can actually kill cancer cells,

CaliKid24
May 23rd, 2010, 04:38 PM
Weed does not kill cancer cells.

Weed in fact does contain a few carcinogenic hydrocarbons, which cause cancer.

Weed simply reduces the effects of chemo therapy for people who already have cancer (like you're able to eat more, less nausea, less pain, etc) and therefore can help you live mildly longer.

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=748

Iron Man
May 23rd, 2010, 04:40 PM
Why can`t I have neither? I don`t get cancer and I am following the law all at once!

Kitty Purry
May 23rd, 2010, 04:47 PM
IMO I think both are wrong! And I wouldn't do either:)

CaliKid24
May 23rd, 2010, 04:50 PM
IMO I think both are wrong! And I wouldn't do either:)

yea thats the best way to go, i dont do either anymore either.

Nickk XD
May 23rd, 2010, 04:58 PM
Did you not notice who did the research? What about the site the research was published on? All of which were PRO MARIJUANA.

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=748

CaliKid24
May 23rd, 2010, 04:59 PM
Did you not notice who did the research? What about the site the research was published on? All of which were PRO MARIJUANA.

true but the point is its healthier than cigs.

Antares
May 23rd, 2010, 07:18 PM
Technically and based on studies, cigarettes are worse BUT both are things that you shouldn't do.

I don't prefer any of them.

Deagle
May 23rd, 2010, 08:33 PM
Why dont do weed, if you smoke once in a while, like once a month or two, theres nothing bad to it.

When you abuse and it becomes once a day, then you should worry, but it's like beer, when you get drunk with friends its not better, weed is illegal yes, but beer does the same, when you abuse it, it not better either.

I smoke weed when I feel like getting high, cigs are gross imo, thats about it

Antonioc
June 2nd, 2010, 07:47 PM
I'm not saying you should smoke weed, that's simply horrible, why would I ever do something illegal! ;)

I'm just saying, if you had to do one, which would it be?

sara1220
June 4th, 2010, 10:22 AM
I like getting high with friends sometimes. i think cigs are gross but if you smoke marijuana responsibly and dont abuse it theres no long term effects.

ortmann123
June 4th, 2010, 06:37 PM
weed gives you a buzz, cigarettes just taste good

Sogeking
June 4th, 2010, 08:44 PM
half a million Americans die from cigarettes every year but weed is worse?
I'm sorry to say but this statement is inaccurate keep in mind there is many more cigarette smokers than joint smokers so of course more people will die

Smoking weed doesn't directly kill you but if taken with other drugs or driving it can. Also it has been known that inhaling maijuana smoke or any kind of smoke for that matter does cause lung cancer

Peace God
June 4th, 2010, 11:16 PM
I'm sorry to say but this statement is inaccurate keep in mind there is many more cigarette smokers than joint smokers so of course more people will die
my statement is completely accurate
it doesnt matter how many people smoke cigs...the tobacco death rate will ALWAYS be higher then marijuana's


What?!:lol: That statement made my day no one dies from smocking weed?
ha!!http://http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/138005/stop_what_you_are_doing_and_read_marijuana.html
Do some research before you make petty statements like that
No one dies from weed... and your link didnt work btw.

Antonioc
June 6th, 2010, 07:00 AM
Well yeah, it can cause lung cancer obv, you're breathing in smoke lmfao
but the drug itself isnt causing the lung cancer, smoking it is.
you don't have to smoke it lol? no more lung cancer

Zazu
June 6th, 2010, 10:39 AM
I'm sorry to say but this statement is inaccurate keep in mind there is many more cigarette smokers than joint smokers so of course more people will die

Smoking weed doesn't directly kill you but if taken with other drugs or driving it can. Also it has been known that inhaling maijuana smoke or any kind of smoke for that matter does cause lung cancer

With regards to your second comment, alcohol is the same. So is caffeine. So is water. Anything could be in your system when operating any kind of vehicle but it doesn't necessarily mean it is the reason you died / someone else died. I do acknowledge though that some people will become intoxicated on cannabis and then, whilst driving, will cause harm. Those people are idiots and this is not an accurate representation of the average person who enjoys cannabis responsibly.

That associated content link you posted is the biggest load of biased crap I've ever seen. Nowhere does it say why the writer things cannabis will kill you, he just makes a statement without any evidence.

Cannabis does not make you waste your life away. At all. I used to smoke cannabis quite heavily and now I only smoke it a few times a year. So far, my life has not wasted away and I am leading a productive and useful one.

I have been, and still am, in the UK equivalent of high school / college, and I haven't dropped out. I'm an intelligent person with a good knowledge on all things surrounding paramedic science and I hope to become a paramedic within the next few years. In fact, I already do some part-time work for a private ambulance company.

The 1960s were 50 years ago; the world has changed.

It is highly doubtful that the television would air a commercial that would mislead viewers in regard to this.

Lolwut? Idiotic, non-questioning sheep of modern day society. If you really think that TV and the other mainstream media doesn't ever lie to you, you are an idiot.

Of course cannabis is a drug, as is caffeine, as are most of the anti-depressants so many people seem to be on these days, as is caffeine, as is alcohol, as is nicotine. I could go on.

The only reason that there is the gateway theory which hypothesises that cannabis will lead to other, harder drugs is because of the current prohibition that exists. Think about it, where do you go to get weed? A dealer. What would a dealer also have access to? Harder drugs. Why are there dealers? Because of prohibition which creates a 'black market'. Wipe out prohibition, control and tax the drug and you will get rid of dealers. No dealers = no 'easy' access to harder drugs. A society such as that in Amsterdam is an example of this. A smaller percentage of the population has tried any form of illicit drug in Amsterdam than in the US / UK and imho, this is because there isn't the same 'taboo' with things like weed.

Also, societies where cannabis is tolerated, such as Amsterdam, are wonderful places to live. If you weren't aware of the cannabis culture in Amsterdam, you wouldn't know it existed most of the time. I've visited Amsterdam before and it is really like any other city in Europe but there is more toleration, more freedom of speech, people are a lot more friendly, sex and drugs are freely discussed and it is a wonderful place to be.

The government would not illegalize anything unless it is for our own good.

Once more, lulz. The reason governments won't legalise cannabis is because they would loose so much tax monies from oil / medicine / food because of the fact that the main byproduct of cannabis, 'hemp', has so many uses and is one of the richest bio-crops known to man.


Sources: I have recently completed a research project investigating whether or not cannabis should be legailsed in the UK. This involved research into the social affects of cannabis toleration / legalisation, the medicinal uses of cannabis, the chemical properties of cannabis ans the uses of hemp. With regards to the Amsterdam comments, I uses Amsterdam as a model when looking into the sociological aspects of cannabis toleration.

/rant for today

iamniokekun
June 6th, 2010, 11:18 AM
Let's try the method of self - prevention diagnosis of cancer, shall we?

AgusCO
June 6th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Well, I smoke cigarettes on weekends usually, when I get together with friends.
Never tried weed,though, and most likely never will.Here(in Argentina) it's not illegal for personal consumption and growing(not dealing.Though you do have some restrictions about smoking in public and the such) but it's associated with low classes and/or tacky people,so,yeah I wouldn't do it.
(You can now go ahead and call me a superficial snob lol)

Nelson
June 9th, 2010, 05:27 AM
Ive only smoked cigarettes a few times, But i get high with my best mate.. So pot.

bellais
June 9th, 2010, 05:33 AM
weed smells better

JunkBondTrader
June 9th, 2010, 06:48 AM
Yes, it has medicinal properties. My mother has MS and uses it medicinally and to be honest it's done more good than harm to her. But I've had other relatives who've, like so many people, tragically misjudged the power of this particular drug. I smoke tobacco, which I'm not proud of but I still prefer it to cannabis anyday. Weed, especially stronger strains have a way of changing people and I've seen it happen. Sure, there's nothing wrong with a bit of hash every now and again but I've had friends and relatives completely drop out of the world because they're too busy getting high. Suddenly, the most ambitious people can't get off their arses because nothing matters to them but weed anymore. It doesn't matter if it's not addictive, people want to keep using.

I smoke and drink and have at times gone through phases of consuming huge amounts of valium and I'm not saying these are any better. They're worse even. But when it comes to tobacco you can smoke twenty cigarettes a day and still hold down a job.

Plus, don't most cannabis users smoke anyway?

MyNameIsJack
June 9th, 2010, 09:05 AM
weed?

ilovegirls15
June 12th, 2010, 12:34 PM
both are nasty

Hatsune Miku
June 12th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Neither

Go chew some gum

Dahnyoul
June 13th, 2010, 07:53 AM
Cigarettes are much worse for your health, but weed is illegal. So, which is it more wrong to do: Smoke weed or smoke cigarettes?

It's wrong to smoke weed because it's illegal, but it's bad to smoke cigarettes because of what they do to you... So when you compare, which do you see as better?

My answer's weed. 30 years from now, I'd rather have bent the law a little bit then have lung cancer. ;D

"Bent the law a little" = No.

#1 It makes you go mad/loopy.
#2 You loose brain cells.
#3 If you take a drug test it'll be there.
#4 You get mixed up in gangs doing drugs/buying from.
#5 Its more expensive, you loose more money.
#6 You could be arrested for it and be in jail/prison.
#7 You could get a criminal record = not good if your going for a job.

I'd rather smoke Fags/Cigs/Rolls than drugs. :/

Sith Lord 13
June 13th, 2010, 08:01 AM
"Bent the law a little" = No.

#1 It makes you go mad/loopy.
#2 You loose brain cells.
#3 If you take a drug test it'll be there.
#4 You get mixed up in gangs doing drugs/buying from.
#5 Its more expensive, you loose more money.
#6 You could be arrested for it and be in jail/prison.
#7 You could get a criminal record = not good if your going for a job.

I'd rather smoke Fags/Cigs/Rolls than drugs. :/

#1 Bull. Pot is not linked to insanity.
#2 Less so than smoking cigarettes.
#3 True, but if it wasn't illegal that wouldn't matter.
#4 First off, if it were legal it wouldn't happen at all. Second, even today, pot is not what's gonna get a person mixed up in gangs.
#5 Looking at the rising price of cigarettes, as well as the fact that pot is traditionally used in lesser quantities, cigarettes are probably more expensive
#6 True, but if it wasn't illegal that wouldn't matter.
#7 True, but if it wasn't illegal that wouldn't matter.

Also for 3, 6, and 7: I don't know what enforcement is like where you are, but here in NYC, you'll only be charged for dealing, or if a cop is really looking to cause a problem.

California may legalize pot in the near future. If they do, how does that change your opinion?

Peace God
June 13th, 2010, 10:58 AM
#2 You loose brain cells.
so does 100s of other random things like standing close to the microwave, drinking alcohol, drinking too much water, smoking cigs, etc...
http://4mind4life.com/blog/2008/02/22/50-things-that-kill-brain-cells/

JunkBondTrader
June 15th, 2010, 03:12 PM
#1 Bull. Pot is not linked to insanity.
#2 Less so than smoking cigarettes.
#3 True, but if it wasn't illegal that wouldn't matter.
#4 First off, if it were legal it wouldn't happen at all. Second, even today, pot is not what's gonna get a person mixed up in gangs.
#5 Looking at the rising price of cigarettes, as well as the fact that pot is traditionally used in lesser quantities, cigarettes are probably more expensive
#6 True, but if it wasn't illegal that wouldn't matter.
#7 True, but if it wasn't illegal that wouldn't matter.

Also for 3, 6, and 7: I don't know what enforcement is like where you are, but here in NYC, you'll only be charged for dealing, or if a cop is really looking to cause a problem.

California may legalize pot in the near future. If they do, how does that change your opinion?

#1 Cannabis has been linked to schizophrenia, at least the stronger strains.
#2 Tobacco does a lot of things but killing brain cells isn't one of them.

Also, we forget that cannabis has been shown to contain five times the amount of tar as tobacco. Recent evidence shows that a person who smokes one joint every day is consuming the equivalent of twenty filtered cigarettes.

hexane
June 15th, 2010, 06:28 PM
weed

Dorsum Oppel
June 15th, 2010, 07:08 PM
People smoke weed less because it's all you need. The only reason that people smoke so many cigarettes is that they are addicting.

I honestly don't even know why there is a debate on the legality of marijuana. It should 100% be legal. It is safer than cigarettes, and if it's no longer illegal, thousands of dealers are put out of business, and all that money goes into stimulating the economy.

It is a FACT that marijuana does not kill, nor is it worse in any way, shape, or form than nicotine cigarettes.

The only reason marijuana is still illegal is that cigarette companies and lobbyists preasure the government to keep it illegal, so that they don't lose business.

Weed wins. Free the herb, free the people.

Sith Lord 13
June 16th, 2010, 12:49 AM
#1 Cannabis has been linked to schizophrenia, at least the stronger strains.
#2 Tobacco does a lot of things but killing brain cells isn't one of them.

Also, we forget that cannabis has been shown to contain five times the amount of tar as tobacco. Recent evidence shows that a person who smokes one joint every day is consuming the equivalent of twenty filtered cigarettes.

#1 Source? Was it published in a peer reviewed journal?
#2 It does, albeit indirectly. Smoking cigarettes is bad for your circulatory system, decreasing blood flow to the brain. If this goes on long enough, you can begin to see brain damage.

Is that every strain of cannabis? Is that pure, or has it been cut? Source?

MyNameIsJack
June 16th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Both are bad, but I prefer something less harmful.

JunkBondTrader
June 16th, 2010, 06:30 PM
#1 Source? Was it published in a peer reviewed journal?
#2 It does, albeit indirectly. Smoking cigarettes is bad for your circulatory system, decreasing blood flow to the brain. If this goes on long enough, you can begin to see brain damage.

Is that every strain of cannabis? Is that pure, or has it been cut? Source?

You've never heard that before?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2407027.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4486548.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cannabis-can-increase-risk-of-schizophrenia-by-40-459184.html

Specifically, these studies came to light with the advent of modern, more powerful (but nonetheless pure) strains, most of which are cultivated with hydroponic lighting and currently, where I am at least, they're all you ever see.

And yes, the most notable study was published in the British Journal of Psychiatry which is indeed peer-reviewed. I can't be bothered to cite all the sources here but they should be listed in those links.

Sith Lord 13
June 17th, 2010, 06:03 AM
No, the journal article was not listed in those links. Also, your sources contradict each other with some saying it appeared to haste the onset, but that it is physically impossible to tie it to causing the illness. The other said it caused the illness. That's part of the reason I look for journal articles. Newspapers rarely tend to let the facts get in the way of a good story. My guess is that there is a correlation between early marijuana use and early onset schizophrenia. But correlation does not prove causation. It's possible they were using marijuana to self-medicate.

King of Clubs
June 17th, 2010, 06:17 AM
has to be weed man... you actually get something outta smoking it :P :D

JunkBondTrader
June 17th, 2010, 07:00 AM
No, the journal article was not listed in those links. Also, your sources contradict each other with some saying it appeared to haste the onset, but that it is physically impossible to tie it to causing the illness. The other said it caused the illness. That's part of the reason I look for journal articles.

These studies confirm a correlation between cannabis and psychosis. I'm having difficulty coming across the schizophrenia data. I'm almost positive it exists though.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539839/?tool=pmcentrez
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/192/6/470

Newspapers rarely tend to let the facts get in the way of a good story.

True. I can't argue with that.

I'm probably coming across as quite anti-cannabis here. I just think your better off with tobacco. But don't most cannabis smokers roll with tobacco anyway?

Sith Lord 13
June 17th, 2010, 07:14 AM
These studies confirm a correlation between cannabis and psychosis. I'm having difficulty coming across the schizophrenia data. I'm almost positive it exists though.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539839/?tool=pmcentrez
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/192/6/470

I have a problem with both studies. Both were done via a survey. Two problems: a) Not truthful responses b) No way to control for self-medication.

Not saying there isn't something to be looked into here, but the proof is lacking at this point.

True. I can't argue with that.

I'm probably coming across as quite anti-cannabis here. I just think your better off with tobacco. But don't most cannabis smokers roll with tobacco anyway?

And I'm probably coming off pro-cannabis, which isn't totally true. I do, however, feel tobacco is far, far riskier (unless you're rolling your own, but that's a different issue).

Vurtine
June 18th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Cigarettes, i love the feeling after you have one

zebra_
June 26th, 2010, 10:22 AM
id rather smoke cigarettes than weed, because weed makes me twitch, and makes me quiet. if u had asked me this like 6 months ago, id deffinately go with weed. it started with being quiet, then twitch, then paranoid, then depressed. but i think i was depressed because i was having paranoia-like feelings.

Wadehampton
June 26th, 2010, 10:49 AM
It's not even a competition, Weed wins hands down. Cigarettes are good if you are stressed and only have like 5 minutes.. and they are cheap, but nothing compares to the almighty green *bows down*

Sordid Saint
June 28th, 2010, 09:47 PM
I've done both, but I don't like cigs because they can mess up your health by a lot.

tearsxdontxfall2014
June 29th, 2010, 05:16 PM
I do both. Weed is good if I'm feeling depressed and just want to forget everything. Cigarettes work if I'm just stressed and need to chill. I'd much rather smoke cigarettes though. I don't really have a reason besides I just like it better.

jake_97
June 29th, 2010, 05:31 PM
ciggs suck its all about the weed!!!!!!!!!!

DanielBoy
July 7th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Okay, few thoughts. One, although people have all kinds of outlandish claims about weed, it is addictive and one blunt puts the same amount of tar on your lungs as 10 cigarettes. Two, weed is illegal for the time being, and can get you fired from a job, or arrested if caught with possession. Three, if you are under 18, both are illegal, and weed is always illegal for the time being.

I personally have two sisters and two parents who are addicted to cigarettes, and I never want that to happen to me. You know in their 40 years of smoking, they have spent over $100K each on their addiction. Weed is even worse, a friend of mine started with just the intention to smoke weed, and now he is into meth and cocaine, weed is not a good road to go down. As rude boy said, both are WRONG!

I hope this helps. :)

Paladino
July 7th, 2010, 02:08 PM
Well Id rather to smoke cigarettes than weed, because I am addicted to cigarettes but I still like to smoke some weed now and again. Now for the people that say one joint has the same amount of tar as 10 or 20 cigarettes your WRONG, weed is a plant so where does the tar come from ? Also I would much rather to smoke cigarettes than weed because if I get caught with weed I could get charged with possession of Class C drugs, but if I get caught with cigarettes they would just take them off me and thats it.

So yeah, cigarettes.

SneakBrain
July 7th, 2010, 02:25 PM
neither, i try to be a clean person and i'm not easy to be persuade by a friend and i'm not addicted to anything. i'm fully control at my self which what i hope everyone are.

MoMo2013
July 27th, 2010, 08:44 PM
and theres no point to cigs but just cause your bored.at least weed gets you high

Insanity Fair
July 27th, 2010, 09:19 PM
Ciggarettes. Can't stand the taste of weed.

Biolink
July 28th, 2010, 11:04 AM
Neither are good for you although weed does have SOME medicinal purposes.

Just how badly weed effects a person won't be known until it is legalized. Most people don't become chain smokers of marijuana, because obviously a little goes a long way in comparison to the many different ways you can ingest nicotine.

Ramiro
July 28th, 2010, 03:22 PM
I haven't tried either!! I do not want to.

Vurtine
July 28th, 2010, 03:55 PM
I smoke cigarettes now and then and I've had a couple of spliffs, I don't see any harm really :)

walpoler93
July 28th, 2010, 05:32 PM
i didnt vote, they are both disgusting and i would never do either

Nathaniel
July 28th, 2010, 06:17 PM
I vote for the marijuana! Cigarettes don't do anything for me, and I live in the US, so smoking them would cause people to frown upon me.

biboy96
July 28th, 2010, 06:29 PM
1. Sigarettes: Should be illegal.
2. Marijuana: Dangerous... You wanna destroy your body?

Sordid Saint
July 28th, 2010, 07:51 PM
and theres no point to cigs but just cause your bored.at least weed gets you high

Actually, cigarettes do give you a nicotine high, but it's nothing compared to weed :P

tonks12
July 28th, 2010, 10:17 PM
I didn't vote. I personally wouldn't do either. I have enough problms without the need to add more.

Ender
July 29th, 2010, 09:13 AM
you shouldnt do either =/

Agreed.

And actually, tests have proven that marijuana smoke contains more tar than a cigarette! And is just as likely to cause lung cancer.
However contain some pretty harsh chemicals... so either way its lose/lose.

Sordid Saint
July 29th, 2010, 04:22 PM
Agreed.

And actually, tests have proven that marijuana smoke contains more tar than a cigarette! And is just as likely to cause lung cancer.
However contain some pretty harsh chemicals... so either way its lose/lose.

All smoke contains tar (or resin) in it. And it's been proven that marijuana doesn't cause cancer at all. The only reason people think it causes cancer is because tobacco does. But if you look at it, it's not the smoke that causes cancer. You could pack a lip of chewing tobacco and still get mouth cancer. There's nothing radioactive in marijuana, so it definitely can't cause cancer.

Also, yes, it may contain tar, but you don't have to smoke as much of it as you do with cigarettes, and some people use water pipes or bongs, which filter out most of the tar in the smoke. So there are "safer" alternatives when it comes to tar. And what about edibles like brownies? There's no way tar can come out of something you eat unless you smoke it.

Zazu
July 31st, 2010, 08:58 AM
Agreed.

And actually, tests have proven that marijuana smoke contains more tar than a cigarette! And is just as likely to cause lung cancer.
However contain some pretty harsh chemicals... so either way its lose/lose.

Hate to be cliched, but I doubt this. I recently completely a very in-depth research project looking into the effects / social impacts of cannabis legalisation and found nothing at all suggesting that cannabis smoke on its own contains more crap than tobacco smoke. My research wasn't what most people do (google something, read the information, feel that is suits their already-formed opinions and then take it as fact). I spent bloody hours trawling through medical journals / papers written by people in many many different positions (toxicology, human biology, human physiology, sociology, socio economics e.t.c.). I don't believe at all that cannabis is harmless; like all things, it can quite easily cause harm to the human body. I just never came across any reports looking into the mechanisms / what's produced when cannabis is combusted that suggested that it contains more rubbish than tobacco smoke.

Also, to add to the discussion, if you consume cannabis orally (eat it in some way), you won't encounter any of the same problems as smoking it.

NeverTooLate
July 31st, 2010, 09:02 AM
I dont do any nor do i plan to, waste of money..

Ender
July 31st, 2010, 10:24 PM
Hate to be cliched, but I doubt this. I recently completely a very in-depth research project looking into the effects / social impacts of cannabis legalisation and found nothing at all suggesting that cannabis smoke on its own contains more crap than tobacco smoke. My research wasn't what most people do (google something, read the information, feel that is suits their already-formed opinions and then take it as fact). I spent bloody hours trawling through medical journals / papers written by people in many many different positions (toxicology, human biology, human physiology, sociology, socio economics e.t.c.). I don't believe at all that cannabis is harmless; like all things, it can quite easily cause harm to the human body. I just never came across any reports looking into the mechanisms / what's produced when cannabis is combusted that suggested that it contains more rubbish than tobacco smoke.

Also, to add to the discussion, if you consume cannabis orally (eat it in some way), you won't encounter any of the same problems as smoking it.

I haven't done any in depth research. I got all my information from a sheriff's office presentation i've seen 6 trillion times. And all their surveys were conducted in 2008

tomcut2000
August 1st, 2010, 02:27 PM
no to both!!

geniusrocksoutloud
October 10th, 2010, 08:44 AM
DOnt do any of them simple as that

Kahn
October 10th, 2010, 12:23 PM
2 month old threads are not supposed to be posted in anymore. Post dates are helpful.

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