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[Deadlykills]

Okay so i bet everyone has heard "nice guys finish last". Well i have noticed alot of the jerk guys that ignore their gf's and act super cool and are complete [email protected]#holes have had longer relationships then ive even had. I'm one of those nice, kind sweethearted, emotional guys and every girl ive dated say "i wish there were more guys like you so other girls would have better lives" well crap, longest relationship ive been in is 3 months and ive dated about 7 girls in the past 3 years. I guess nice guys get finished first eh? anyone ever notice this?

[steve1234]

I have noticed this many times. Girls moan that boys are immature, selfish, full of themselves, etc etc. But thats because they only notice the jerks, and ignore the nice guys.
I know this is not true for all girls, but sometimes I can't help thinking that personality means nothing to girls, and its all about good looks and money.
One girl who is quite a good friend of mine is very intelligent, funny, good looking etc, and she decided to go out with a racist BNP supporter (The BNP is a racist political party in the UK) who bullies people - in fact he once pushed my head into a toilet a few years ago. That is an extreme case I suppose, but its proves a point.

[Kaius]

Mm, that is very much the case quite a lot of the time, but its the same on both sides as well. Here's a similar thread i thought you might like to look at http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72957

[PatrickZii]

Nice guys do finish last. Girls are into assholes (pardon my language) but it's the truth.


However, in the long run, I believe girls get sick of that kind of guy and end up with a nice guy. Just takes them a while to figure it out.

[Harley Quinn]

Actually, that's a just a misconception. I don't like assholes, because I just don't like anyone that's an asshole, so some girls do, doesn't mean all of then are into that sorta guy. I'd much rather a nice guy that actually does give two fucks about me (which I do, and he's awesome), then a person who just does whatever they want and think it's okay to mess a girl around.The girls that like the assholes, are well.. Stupid, but even assholes need love. But I like the "nice guy" and I am dating one, assholes just don't do it for me or some girls.

[Frankenstein's Bride]

I've dated a few "nice guys" and found that they were pathetic, spineless and completely unattractive. I much prefer jerks to shy little boys that "love" me after five seconds.

[Hollywood]

I've dated a few "nice guys" and found that they were pathetic, spineless and completely unattractive. I much prefer jerks to shy little boys that "love" me after five seconds.

Well now I agree with what the original poster said. Good god, what has happened to this world? Even being nice doesn't get accepted anymore. Fucking rediculous.

Nonetheless, don't let girls like this determine who you are. Keep being nice, and don't let them turn you into a monster. Eventually, the niceness will really help you out in life.

[steve1234]

I've dated a few "nice guys" and found that they were pathetic, spineless and completely unattractive. I much prefer jerks to shy little boys that "love" me after five seconds.

Could you say anything more shallow??? Boys have always seemed to been known as more shallow than girls, but in this day and age, it has completley turned around.

I don't know what to do anymore. I could act like a total jerk, and attract all the bitches, but I would lose all my friends.
Or, I could act like a 'nice guy' like I am now, and hardly ever have girls interested in me, but keep all my friends.

Im going to stay a 'nice guy', and hopefully a girl who isnt shallow will like me for who I am. Looks like I will be waiting a long time.

[Frankenstein's Bride]

Could you say anything more shallow??? Boys have always seemed to been known as more shallow than girls, but in this day and age, it has completley turned around.

I don't know what to do anymore. I could act like a total jerk, and attract all the bitches, but I would lose all my friends.
Or, I could act like a 'nice guy' like I am now, and hardly ever have girls interested in me, but keep all my friends.

Im going to stay a 'nice guy', and hopefully a girl who isnt shallow will like me for who I am. Looks like I will be waiting a long time.

it's not shallow at all it was a hard learned lesson. "Nice guys" just don't do it for me. They idolize you until they don't treat you like a person anymore and they have unrealistic assumptions and expectations of you because they're nice guys that have wanted to go out with you for ages. Because they think your a walking goddess they'll do anything not to displease you and if you have a conversation they'll agree with whatever you say just so you like them more or they become unbearably cling. That has been my experiance of "nice guys" and thus influences my opinion.

Also My problem is i can get any guy i want but I'm only attracted to ones that put up a fight for my affections or toy with me. We all want what we can't have, right?

[OhMightyLion]

Girls at this age usually notice on the jerks (even though they say they keep looking for a nice guy but they"can't find one"). They'll notice us nice guys soon...

[User Name]

Also My problem is i can get any guy i want but I'm only attracted to ones that put up a fight for my affections or toy with me. We all want what we can't have, right?

You can't get me...

[Frankenstein's Bride]

You can't get me...

I would have to at least meet someone first or converse with them before I can make any assumption. If I didn't know them then i can't say whether or not i would like them or not. I don't just look at people on the street and see which one doesn't give me a second look and fall for him lmao. I do have feelings and of course i did care for all my bfs. But my most frustrating and unhappiest have been from relationships with "Nice guys" and because they're "nice guys" i always give them the benefit of the doubt but it always ends badly. They seem nice so maybe this time it will work? it never does. my advice; don't be a jerk and don't be a spineless nice guy. Just be normal.

[steve1234]

my advice; don't be a jerk and don't be a spineless nice guy. Just be normal.

Make up your mind. What the hell is normal? That word is so vague, and just a pointless word.

[Kaius]

Come on guys, keep on track please.

[Deadlykills]

I've dated a few "nice guys" and found that they were pathetic, spineless and completely unattractive. I much prefer jerks to shy little boys that "love" me after five seconds.

Actualy i kind of agree here. Except for the unattractive part. I'm exactly what she said the "nice guys" are. I cant help it. Its kind of the "treat people the way you want to be treated" thing, it doesnt end well. Ive noticed with my mom and her BF that they fight 1 or 2 days at a time but after that they forgive eachother and makes their relationship stronger...somehow. Maybe the "nice guys" are to perfect for girls. Idk none of that made any sense to myself but maybe someone might know what im talkin about. :)

[Kaius]

I half agree, but tbh im a nice guy and im nothing like that. Im not spineless, i can't "Love" someone after 5 seconds. There are different types of nice guys around.

[steve1234]

I half agree, but tbh im a nice guy and im nothing like that. Im not spineless, i can't "Love" someone after 5 seconds. There are different types of nice guys around.

Yes well said Kaius. There are different kinds of nice guys, we are not all like Frankensteins Bride's description.
I got a little angry in my previous posts there, so apologies. You have sort of said what I was trying to say Kaius.
:)

[kyle95]

Mate you're confusing a true relationship with a messed up one. When blokes abuse girls, they're conditioning them and controlling them - they're no different than pimps. Good chaps don't do that and certainly never try to measure up to manipulative sods. Take a good look at how you've treated the girls: If you've got nothing to feel bad about than you ought to be happy. One day you will meet the "right' girl and you won't bring baggage into the relationship because you've always been a gentleman so don't doubt yourself or your actions - be steadfast and good luck, you're on the right track

[dmeek7]

This is completely true. i've lost a bunch of girls to my best firend b/c he is a loser and an a-hole, and stupid, and thinks he rules the world. he is no longer my friend. anyways gettings back to the point. i've let alot of girls know this idea i've had about them, and they deny it. i think all girls will deny it, but its still true

[Trackstar29]

Yea i know wutchu mean, all these jerks have all the good gf's and they dont deserve them. Idk wy this is, but its their choice