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Scarface
May 6th, 2010, 02:56 PM
On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.

"They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."
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The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus.

"They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said.

The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense."

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."

But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

As for an apology, the boys and their families say, 'fat chance.'

"I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said. "I went along with my normal day. I might have worn an American flag, but I'm an American and I'm proud to be an American."

The five boys and their families met with a Morgan Hill Unified School District official Wednesday night. The district and the school do not see eye-to-eye on the incident and released the following statement:

The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions.

The boys will not be suspended and were allowed to return to school Thursday. We spotted one of them when he got to campus -- and, yes, he was sporting an American flag T-shirt.

Source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36981179?GT1=43001)

Perseus
May 6th, 2010, 03:01 PM
Cinco de Mayo isn't really a heritage day, at least, I wouldn't consider it a heritage. They're celebrating defeating the French. Anyway, that principal shouldn't of done that. I found that ridiculous.

SafeAuto
May 6th, 2010, 04:13 PM
The idea of people being kicked out of an American school for bearing American colors really brings my piss to a boil. I don't care what day it is.

Sage
May 6th, 2010, 05:19 PM
There's nothing wrong with wearing the american flag on a shirt. Either way, inb4 conservatives get butthurt over national pri--

The idea of people being kicked out of an American school for bearing American colors really brings my piss to a boil. I don't care what day it is.

--goddamnit.

Bougainvillea
May 6th, 2010, 05:44 PM
Who gives a shit what day it is? Ooh. That's so stupid.

If mexicans are going to get offended because of that, then why the fuck don't they celebrate the day in mexico, because it's SUCH a big deal. It's a shirt... with the american flag... Expect to see that because you're in America. Sorry if I don't want to do something because it's an important day to someone else. And has nothing to do with my heritage.

Scarface
May 6th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Were In AMERICA if they don't like what we do they don't have to either celebrate or live here. Simple. Also to be kicked out of school because of that reason is ludicrous. It's not a crime to show your pride and patriotism. As said above if they don't feel comfortable celebrating here they can always go to Mexico where they will.

Sage
May 6th, 2010, 06:15 PM
This is why I'm not patriotic nor take any pride in any country or culture, including my own. It just leads to people whining and bitching and fighting over meaningless flags and colors.

dead
May 6th, 2010, 08:24 PM
This is why I'm not patriotic nor take any pride in any country or culture, including my own. It just leads to people whining and bitching and fighting over meaningless flags and colors.

Exactly.

Iron Man
May 6th, 2010, 09:37 PM
Kicking them off for that is like punching the American flag in the face. I understand that the Mexican-American demographic would be offended but if they were born in the U.S., that still makes them half Mexican and half American. They are being unpatriotic to their other flag. Plus freedom of speech was violated here.

Bougainvillea
May 6th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Actually, if they're born here, that makes them a full U.S citizen. Which is a full blooded american, with latin heritage.

Iron Man
May 6th, 2010, 09:54 PM
True. My mistake, but same idea.

The Batman
May 6th, 2010, 10:56 PM
You really think it was a coincidence that they wore the american flag on that day? It's obvious they did it just to start to shit and they got what they wanted.

Sage
May 7th, 2010, 12:15 AM
They are being unpatriotic to their other flag.
Why should anyone give a flying fuck?

You really think it was a coincidence that they wore the american flag on that day? It's obvious they did it just to start to shit and they got what they wanted.
Thank gods someone else clued in on that.

CaptainObvious
May 7th, 2010, 12:17 AM
Yeah, I agree, ridiculous to suspend kids for wearing their nation's flag, etc. etc.

On the other hand, does anyone else seriously believe this was not meant to be incendiary? Like, flag bandanas? Really? It was a coincidence that they were wearing such ridiculously patriotic apparel to a school with a significant Mexican population on Cinco de Mayo? Uh...huh.

Still, it's America, no way you suspend them for that.

Perseus
May 7th, 2010, 04:29 PM
Thank gods someone else clued in on that.

I thought it was obvious and didn't needed to be pointed out, lol.

Bougainvillea
May 7th, 2010, 04:31 PM
It is obvious, but I doubt they walked on campus with the "Imma fuck shit up" attitude.

quartermaster
May 7th, 2010, 06:34 PM
It was not to be confrontational, per se, but it was to make an unnecessary nationalistic political statement. They wanted to show the "unpatriotic" Mexicans that they are in America etc. etc. It's an absurd statist conflict that is based on nothing more than merely geography; gee Carlos, I was born three miles north of the border! Whoop De freakin do! An unnecessary move on the part of the students, but an overreaction on the part of the school; but of course, none of this is new, is it?

Kahn
May 8th, 2010, 09:02 AM
It was not to be confrontational, per se, but it was to make an unnecessary nationalistic political statement. They wanted to show the "unpatriotic" Mexicans that they are in America etc. etc. It's an absurd statist conflict that is based on nothing more than merely geography; gee Carlos, I was born three miles north of the border! Whoop De freakin do! An unnecessary move on the part of the students, but an overreaction on the part of the school; but of course, none of this is new, is it?

Complete and utter win.

I agree with Sean's statement. Both sides were wrong in the end. In my opinion, however, the school should apologize to the children for what they had done. I am appalled at this only because of the fact that it is not an official Mexican holiday.

Appleton
May 8th, 2010, 11:44 AM
the parents met with the school district and the district stated that the principal went too far. I can't remember, but did anyone mention that at least one of the kids wearing the shirts was half latino? His mother his white and his father is mexican. To me it doesn't matter if it's an official mexican holiday or not. We are not in mexico. Will these same kids get sent home if they wear the flag shirts on April 25th which is celebrated as liberation day in italy or during summer school on july 14th which is bastile day?

CaptainObvious
May 8th, 2010, 11:52 AM
the parents met with the school district and the district stated that the principal went too far. I can't remember, but did anyone mention that at least one of the kids wearing the shirts was half latino? His mother his white and his father is mexican. To me it doesn't matter if it's an official mexican holiday or not. We are not in mexico. Will these same kids get sent home if they wear the flag shirts on April 25th which is celebrated as liberation day in italy or during summer school on july 14th which is bastile day?

Is their school majority Italian or French? I doubt it, so no.

peaceloverugby
May 10th, 2010, 07:43 PM
This is a classic freedom of speech violation, any half-ass attorney could handle this. I don't care if they want to wear the stupid flag, as long as the Mexican kids can wear their Mexican flag shirts. If they both want to look like ignorant nationalists, far be it for me to stop them.

But I also understand the principal not wanting shit to go down on his watch. Those kids are lucky their asses didn't get beat.

As far as I'm concerned, I would've just said Fuck your flag and fuck you! *Turns up the Anti-Flag to drown out ignorant nationalists*

Jess
May 11th, 2010, 11:44 AM
that is so stupid.

Sith Lord 13
May 12th, 2010, 12:12 AM
I don't care if it was meant to be incendiary or not. The right to wear or display the US flag in a respectful manner anywhere in the US is every citizen's right. (Not saying a disrespectful manner or other country's flag isn't, but the territory can get a little murkier.)

As far as I'm concerned, the principal should be required to issue an official apology. Everyone makes mistakes, so I don’t think it should be grounds for dismissal or docked wages, but you have to own up to it when you screw up. If he was worried about altercations, he should have called in security, not violated the first amendment.