Was the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands morally right?

[WelshLad]

As a Brit I say NO! THEY'RE BRITISH LEAVE EM ALONE! But they claim they should belong to them. I'm watchin a programme on it now and just wondered what u lot think or cudnt u rely give a crap. Personally I think we should have nuked Buenos Aires to show em who's boss.

[Shaolin]

I think the reasoning behind whose land it belongs to is right for both the British and Argentinians. Argentina had the Falklands for many more years than the UK.

Yet everyone who lives on the Falklands wants to stay British, so obviously the idea to invade was stupid.

The British were justified in retaking the islands, i think we did it very well. The falklands isn't far from Argentina, only a few miles. The UK on the other hand is thousands of miles from the Falklands, they had invaded
and made built up positions on high ground areas, the British had to invade the fortified island, and did so with far fewer casualties than the Argentinians.

[///James///]

let me put it like this,

which country is closer, uk, or argentina?

in that case, the argentians should be the ruler of the country, the place would have better oppertunitites/

plus tatcher bombed a ship that was heading away from the islands, killing hundreds.
disgraceful

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i live in america i have no idea what u guys r talking about :0

[Shaolin]

We are talking about the Falklands War, which happened in thet 1980's.

Basically the Falklands is a group of Islands off the shore of Argentina. Britain took these Islands from Spain hundreds of years ago.

The Islands have been inhabited by British people who want only to be British, for hundred of years.

The Argentinians took the Island without warning or diplomacy. Britain responded and crushed the invasion.

I think it was quite pointless for Argentina to invade becuase the Island was and is British, the people who live there wanted to be British and there were more sheep on the island than peo

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

are they still british now? like what was the outcome of the war

[Shaolin]

Yes they are British.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

from the facts ive gathered from this thread, im gunna say that the place should stay british, and argentina didnt have a right to randomly invade land that they havent controlled for a long time

[WelshLad]

Those Argentineans didn't have a bloody chance. Think they can win against one of the superpowers. GO BRITAIN WOOO!!!!

And just because they're closer to Argentina doesn't mean it's rightfull theirs. That would mean Hawaii belongs to Japan. But the US sure taught them in the 1940s.

Moral of the story - Don't fuck with Britain or the US

[Shaolin]

Well look at it this way. Argentina was back then a military run country, the leaders wore military jackets. Their military was large and they had good enough equipment, not rusty old Ak's.

They landed on the Islands, took positions and had built up fortress type shelters ontop of hills. The falklands is a very hilly and wasteland kind of environment.

So before the UK had even made a response, Argentina had piled the Island with soldiers equipment and had built up positions.

The UK sent special forces (SAS) to destroy their airfields, the mission was a success they destroyed many jet fighters with few casaulties.

We took the Islands back with force, mostly thanks to 3 Para and the Royal Marines.

[WelshLad]

We shuda nuked Buenos Aires. we want our empire back as well!

[Whisper]

If you would have nuked them then the islands would have been uninhabitable to anyone for hundreds of yrs, plus its all the excuse other countries need to launch theres which would cause a nucular winter killing off our entire planet (excpt cockroaches).

EDIT:
Oh and fuck america! (I have no problem with your average sane american civillian) I lost all respect for the american goverment when Bush defied to United Nations (UN), but did he stop there?!?!?!?!? Noooooooo he also practically threatened every country that disagreed saying "if your not with us, your against us!" THEN he began murdering and maming innocent civillians.

Tecnically speaking Canada's still part of the common wealth so I like Britain.......Its like Canada's parent er sumthin (my countrys still young even younger then America hell we added another territory just a few yrs ago for fucks sakes)

[WelshLad]

uh wow, where do I start. Well yeh american government sucks and thinks it can police the world WELL NO U CANT. Again, i've no probs with american citizems, its just your leader is an evil fool.

I like Canada. Did you guys get offended by south park the movie? always wanted to aska canadian that.

Btw how did Bush kill innocent civilians?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

"If you would have nuked them then the islands would have been uninhabitable to anyone for hundreds of yrs...."

Stop taking people so literal, i mean really

And bush didnt kill innocent civilians. some innocent civilians died in accidents, all in the name of stopping terrorism and making the world a safer place

[boognish]

also note that the people that were killed were killed becuase we had gotten tips taht saddam and his sons may be hidding in those "abanndoned" houses. we had no idea people were there

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

we had no idea people were there? your inferring that we thought people werent there, and tried to bomb peopless buildings

[boognish]

no, we thought that saddam and his soldiers were in them, not civilians.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

yep. whoops, mistake. its not like we planned on bombing civilians, it was pure accident. and its not like it happeneed at all. bombs were 0nly dropped in the very beginning of th war

[Whisper]

So if England blew up your home and your entire family died, you had to carry the fucked up mess that was left of there bodys away to be throw into a mass grave you would be alright with that? You'd go ohwell they made a mistake.

YOU DUMB FUCKS IT'S WAR!!! YOU DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES IN WAR!!!!!!! If america the country with the most powerful army on earth and its millitary is that pathedic at intell then you shouldn't be there in the first place, your more of a danger then they are.

Oh and cosmos stop being such a dumbass, really :roll:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i love britain, and if a stray missile hit my house i would be honored you stupid fuck.

"YOU DUMB FUCKS IT'S WAR!!! " and in war people die you stupid piece of worthless shit!

[Whisper]

SO do I it was a mediphorical situation you idiot. If thats true.....Then your sick to a level far beyond help.

if AMERICA the most powerful country on earth can't take over a tiny lil 3rd world country like Iraq without that amount of civillian casualtys or of friendly fire then yur countrys truly pathedic like seriously just think bout that for a moment......Honestly :roll:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

can you please give me statistics on the god awful horrid level of civilian casualties? id like to compare it to how many civilians who have died in ever single other war weve faught

[boognish]

also most civillians are trying to kill the soldiers too, and technically its not a "war" its a battle. we never officailly declared war on iraq

[WelshLad]

In the Sun (a british tabloid newspaper) they had a counter, i dunno if they still got it, but it counts the number of British soldiers, iraqi civilians and saddams men who had died. the last time i read it it was something like 10,000 civilians 200 british soldiers and 1 000 saddams men, but dont quote me on that its only a rough estimate.

[WelshLad]

btw something like 100,000,000 civilians died in WW2. again dont quote me. check guiness world records i think its in there

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

a few civilians die, 27 million get the vote. hmmm....

[Shaolin]

Cosmos have some compassion, you would'nt be so fucking heartless towards human life if you had experianced death close to you!

If you have, imagine how you felt then, and project that onto the many thousands of people in Iraq and other wars that suffer, from PREVENTABLE situations!

Now get BACK to topic on the FALKLANDS issue, or i'll lock this!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Listen, i know that the death of people who arent engaging in a war is bad. no civilian ever deserves to die. i understand. except, shit happens and i understand that to. sometimes things are justifiable, even death

[Shaolin]

Okay, how does one justify the killing of civillians? They aim and fire at a building, they should know there are no civillians in there.

If they didn't it is not an accident. If they shoot someone it's not an accident either. If you go into a live combat zone, you are trained not to fire at civillians, and to recognise someone is an enemy before hand.

Yes in some situations it really is no ones fault, sometimes a soldier can get a little too hyperactive and let his professionalism slip, however that is not something you can justify.

"It was ok because i didnt know he was an enemy" is not good enough "I slipped and pulled the trigger" is also not good enough, as the military is supposed to be trained to target only combatents.

[WelshLad]

Some soldiers are power-mad, like that american in Iraq who shot a civilian on purpose.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

he says it was mercy killing

[WelshLad]

mercy killing meaning?

[Shaolin]

Look at it like this.

If the US was invaded by a power hungry country who were claiming that the US had nuclear weapons and a whole plethora of WMD (which they do) then why shouldn't the US civillians fight back with their militias and guns.

Why shouldn't they fight back an invading country who is bombing houses in Washington DC trying to find Bush, the lieing dictator.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

the civilians wouldnt need to fight back, because our bombs would level their country flat and it would be like a slap on the hand for a nation to try and "invade" us

[WelshLad]

i dont think anyone would have the balls to invade america.

anyway how come its allowed weapons of mass destruction -nucleur bombs, and other countries arent. its not the head country of the world or whatever, its not in charge of the world

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

its cuz while everyone knows that the us, briatin, or russia, wont use their nukes, we arent so sure about unstable extremist countries like north korea and iraq

[TheWizard]

No need to cuss.