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The Dark Lord
April 28th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Just wondering what people think the outcome will be? Personally I'm going for a Conservative majority in spite of the LibDem surge under Clegg. 5 more years of Gordon Brown and new Labour would be diasterous for Britain and I feel Cameron has become the only viable option. Who will be out next Prime Minster?

Whisper
April 28th, 2010, 01:59 PM
I have NO idea. I know NOTHING about British politics. Teach me, tell me about it.

If they're similar then party wise Canada's the exact opposite, we could really use a liberal gov again, and BC could really use the NDP.

Patchy
April 28th, 2010, 02:08 PM
Gordon Brown - Buggered himself up today, even though in the debates I think he's always done better than Cameron in the debates cause he can debate well. I'm watching a interview with him thats aimed at youth, he's pretty good in it and you have to remember he's had a lot of shite when him being in government thats not really his fault. The recession, the ash cloud, swine flu and he's getting criticised for that....thats just harsh. He also managed to cope through the recession whereas Cameron would just blame the previous government and probably bottle.

David Cameron - Cares too much about his image. He sucked in the televised debates and I feel he's not for the lower/middle class and only really cares about keeping the rich and not really bothering about anyone else. He is also scrapping child tax credits - I agree in scrapping it for the upper class that are rich, but not for the single parent mums that can't even afford enough food for their kid to invite a mate round for dinner.

Nick Clegg - Best Lib Dems leader so far. Is he going to get it, no. He's obviously got a good image but people know his party is never going to push through and manage a majority.

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The BBC disallowing Alex Salmond and the Plaid Cymru leaders into the debate is shocking. Alex Salmond is a great debater and has wiped the main party leaders off the floor in the past and is bright, leaving Scotland out of the lime light. Gordon Brown is the only party leader so far I feel has appealed to Scotland where Cameron is too traditional English to fight for his votes in Scotland, the Scottish conservative party are only really favoured by farmers.

The Dark Lord
April 28th, 2010, 04:28 PM
Alex Salmond is a 2nd rate politican. Under no circumstances should he have been involded in the PRIME MINSTERIAL debates. Scottish independence would destroy Scotland and Alex Salmond should be given NO platform to highlight his moronic ideas

Death
May 2nd, 2010, 11:46 AM
I'm hoping that we'll be getting the conservatives back; things have only gotten worse since they went out of power. I wouldn't mind most political parties, although I wouldn't want Labour or the Monster Raving Loony party since I don't really think much of their policies.

Atonement
May 2nd, 2010, 11:54 AM
I have NO idea. I know NOTHING about British politics. Teach me, tell me about it.

If they're similar then party wise Canada's the exact opposite, we could really use a liberal gov again, and BC could really use the NDP.

I think I understand the process of British government, but I don't get any of the politics. Anyone have some awesome resources on this?

I try to understand from the BBC, but I can't seem to get it. :P

redcar
May 2nd, 2010, 12:51 PM
Ah British Politics reminds me why First Past the Post is a terrible system of voting. Like it is possible for Labour to get the least amount of the popular vote of the three parties yet Gordon Brown could retain his position as Prime Minister. PRSTV all the way!

Anyway I think its going to be a hung parliment with David Cameron and Nick Clegg forming a coalition government - which will probably won't last 5 years.

Outside possibility that Labour will ditch Gordon Brown as leader and elect David Milliband as leader then Nick Clegg could form a coalition with them.

xgeekyrocksx
May 2nd, 2010, 01:04 PM
hopefully not labour!! but im not to keen on the conservatives winning it caus of their idea that you need to speak full english to work in public services... including a cleaner so.. yeah x

Zazu
May 2nd, 2010, 05:18 PM
I'm thinking either a hung parliament or a very small Tory majority.

Tbh though, I have no intention of actually voting for anyone on Thursday; I'm thinking of lots of nice little insulting things I can draw on my ballot paper.

quartermaster
May 3rd, 2010, 12:30 AM
As an American, whose views do not matter a bit, I would say that Clegg is my favorite out of the three. Brown is, in my opinion, a complete failure, Cameron is a faux-Conservative who is Brown-lite. Clegg, though not of my ideology, is by far the best on civil liberties and better on the economy than the other two candidates.

He is really the only true alternative in this upcoming election, Cameron is just more of the same, but just with a little wit.

SimplyTom
May 3rd, 2010, 01:31 AM
I'm just a few months too young to vote but if i was voting i wouldn't vote for nick clegg because he wants a greener would so he's going to raise car tax etc and i wouldn't vote for gordan brown because he called a labour voter a bigamist.

So therefore i would vote for david cameron.

georgiamay
May 3rd, 2010, 10:15 AM
i have no idea who will be the next primeminister, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was a hung parliament.

i dont mind TOO much who wins the election, as long as it isn't conservative, UKIP or BNP.

to be honest, i quite like labour, but i really don't like gorden brown, so if i could vote, i wouldn't vote labour, just because of him. If tony blair was still in power, i'd definately want labour to win. tony blair was great :D the only thing i really disaggree with about labour is the ID cards. i REFUSE to carry one of them.

i really do have the conservatives though. their policies are all, look after the rich and forget about the poor, although a lot of their policies are quite good, its just that one fact that really puts me off of them.

look at this! it's really good :P it shows you some policies and statements, and you say either agree, disagree or open minded, and it shows you which party your veiws are more like :) you have to choose which party you want to be compared to, but i just picked all of them :P seriously, i was quite surprised:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7541285/How-should-I-vote-in-the-General-Election-2010.html

KenFisher
May 6th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Election day today! Just hope I won't wake up to a Tory Britain tomorrow.

Ashooo
May 6th, 2010, 01:37 PM
C'mon Gordon! You can doooo it! Labour ftw

georgiamay
May 6th, 2010, 02:27 PM
as long as tomorrow i dont wake up in a torry country, i'm happy :)

Zazu
May 6th, 2010, 05:54 PM
So it's looking like there might me a hung parliament with Tories holding the biggest number of seats - a coalition between Labour and the Liberals perhaps to shove them out?

Death
May 8th, 2010, 10:55 AM
I can't even begin to see how people can like Labour. Come on, they're the ones who believe that you should have to pay a burgler compensation for cutting themselves whilst smashing through your window. Crackpots. The world was much better off with Margaret Thatcher, who so happened to be a conservative, so I'd definitely go for David Cameron.

georgiamay
May 8th, 2010, 11:09 AM
well, labour did introduce the minimum wage, and completely reform the NHS (which margaret thatcher completely destroyed by the way), improved education standards at school, low inflation and low interest rates, so labour has done a lot for us.

Death
May 8th, 2010, 03:45 PM
Maybe they have, but they've also done the opposite quite a lot. And what about the conservatives when Margaret Thatcher was in power? There was this thing called a grant which gave children who were suitable to have an advanced education in 'college' schools for free. I actually liked this since it saved money for one of my adult sisters - for the first part of her education before it stopped due to the new left wing standards. But that's only one thing.

Ashooo
May 9th, 2010, 10:57 AM
Maybe they have, but they've also done the opposite quite a lot. And what about the conservatives when Margaret Thatcher was in power? There was this thing called a grant which gave children who were suitable to have an advanced education in 'college' schools for free. I actually liked this since it saved money for one of my adult sisters - for the first part of her education before it stopped due to the new left wing standards. But that's only one thing.

she also introduced poll tax, which is now known as council tax >:

Antares
May 9th, 2010, 11:17 AM
And Thatcher also made significant cuts on education and welfare in her "reign".

Based on what I learned in AP Euro, Im for the Labor. :D

Death
May 9th, 2010, 11:50 AM
You won't be saying that when a burgler brakes into your house by smashing your window, cuts himself on your glass, and you end up paying him compensation for it. In fact, I also think that, that applies to people trespassing on land you own and tripping over something or half-drowning in your pond - you have to pay them.

Besides, it's the left wing people who put a ban on saying 'Black or white coffee' and made you say 'coffee with or without milk' as well as banning many other words or phrases that clearly weren't racist because they had no idea what 'racism' even meant. Also note that they tend to believe that only white people are racist and it isn't possible the other way round. My last school believed that and they were all left wing. And yes, those people were bigoted, hypocritical crackpots (not saying that about Labour in general at all).

I could go on, but I think I've said enough.

thepieman
May 9th, 2010, 02:44 PM
What bugs me most about politics is that many people round where I live won't vote Conservative because of the Coal Miners Strikes in Thatcher's reign. They seem to forget the coal mines here have been closed for many years. :P

The country really needs the Tory-LibDem pact asap!

The Dark Lord
May 10th, 2010, 12:05 PM
Gordon Brown to resign by october. This means if we have a lib/lab coalition then we get a 2nd UNELECTED Prime Minister in a row. My predition- Tory minority by the end of the week

Tiberius
May 10th, 2010, 01:47 PM
The Torries only need 11 more seats for a clear-cut majority, even though they have the most seats of a single party. Personally, I hate Gordan Brown and his Labour Party. They've been a bunch of boot-lickers to us here in America and haven't actually done anything worth while. I'd like to see the Conservatives oust Gordan out.

quartermaster
May 10th, 2010, 03:21 PM
And Thatcher also made significant cuts on education and welfare in her "reign".

Based on what I learned in AP Euro, Im for the Labor. :D

I'm no Thatcher fan, but her policies did help bring the UK out of the devastating stagflation of the 1970s, brought on by the Labour Party.

georgiamay
May 16th, 2010, 06:17 AM
i hated thatcher, because she completely destroyed the NHS, and when labour came into power, they completely reformed it, making it by far so much better than when thatcher destroyed it. the tories dont care about people in the working class, which is why they thatcher did it. if they cant afford private health care, who cares!? that was their thing. but when labour took over, people in the working class had descent medical treatment, and i know everyone moans about the NHS, but do you actually know how much the survival rates have gone up? the NHS is actually very good, and the tories want to make cuts to it.

i really dont like the tories. i'm for labour. i mean, sure labour have their faults, but the tories' faults, in my opinion are much worse than labours.

The Dark Lord
May 16th, 2010, 10:51 AM
i hated thatcher, because she completely destroyed the NHS, and when labour came into power, they completely reformed it, making it by far so much better than when thatcher destroyed it. the tories dont care about people in the working class, which is why they thatcher did it. if they cant afford private health care, who cares!? that was their thing. but when labour took over, people in the working class had descent medical treatment, and i know everyone moans about the NHS, but do you actually know how much the survival rates have gone up? the NHS is actually very good, and the tories want to make cuts to it.

i really dont like the tories. i'm for labour. i mean, sure labour have their faults, but the tories' faults, in my opinion are much worse than labours.

You are too young to hate Thatcher. What about Labours fault's?
Brown destroyed our pension system, Blair sent us illegally to Iraq, NHS destroyed, the rescession, education system wrecked, immigration more than doubled, years of lies and political spin from Mandelson and Campbell. What exactly is New Labour's legacy?