Reincarnation (past lives)

[Kaya]

do you believe in them?

[Sage]

No. It's a pointless belief, and doesn't account for growing populations.

[magikarpy]

Neat idea. More interesting then other religions or philosophies but also less plausible.

[geek]

No, nor do I beleive in a soul. I am of the oppinion that every part of the human consciousness is simply electrical signals in the brain. I'm sorry Mum, but that is the way it is.

[cody2010]

hell no.

[Shadoukun]

do you believe in them?

Yeah, no.

[Amnesiac]

No, but then again I don't believe in anything.

[Marcie]

No I do not.

EDIT: I think it makes no sense and is a stupid concept..

[magikarpy]

I was expecting this thread to get some huge argument but apparently were all under the idea that this theology is bull shit.

[Disco Jones]

What if I said it makes more sense than one soul, because it takes into account non-humans and the natural cycles of life?

[Aspiringanonymous]

Actually, I do, but not necessarily in the traditional sense.

I believe that all 'souls' are fragments temporarily separated from the whole - the universal consciousness, if you will - in order to take on physical life forms. And when one such life ends, the spirit which inhabits that body simply returns to become a part of the immeasurable whole. Every new fragment that undertakes the same journey, thus, contains a trace of the individual within them.

Alternatively, it can be interpreted this way - one's body dies and decomposes, finally becoming immersed into the land and soil from which new, individual life forms will spring. Their lives, too, are the culmination of many that have existed before.

The point is, though, that existence itself does not end with the end of a physical life.

I really don't think this is something that can be argued about - it is simply what makes the most sense to each individual. Thought I would offer to share the other perspective.

[lagiacrus]

I do. I am like the only Atheist who believes i Reincarnation.

[Hollywood]

No, I don't. I'm a full-fledged Atheist, no god, no soul.

Hmmm, that sounded really dark.

[Shadoukun]

Actually, I do, but not necessarily in the traditional sense.

I believe that all 'souls' are fragments temporarily separated from the whole - the universal consciousness, if you will - in order to take on physical life forms. And when one such life ends, the spirit which inhabits that body simply returns to become a part of the immeasurable whole. Every new fragment that undertakes the same journey, thus, contains a trace of the individual within them.

Alternatively, it can be interpreted this way - one's body dies and decomposes, finally becoming immersed into the land and soil from which new, individual life forms will spring. Their lives, too, are the culmination of many that have existed before.

The point is, though, that existence itself does not end with the end of a physical life.

I really don't think this is something that can be argued about - it is simply what makes the most sense to each individual. Thought I would offer to share the other perspective.

This, my young children, is what we call 'dogmatic nonsense'.

[Dive to Survive]

I don't beleive in reincarnations. Im a devoted Christian and reincarnations just dont make sense to me anyway.

[ltimm]

Hmmm. To me that's a hard question to answer.
I'm kinda a 'hopeful atheist', if you will. :D
There is evidence for reincarnation, yet there's evidence for God.
I'm kinda in a, a hard point in my life. I just don't know what I belive in spirtual wise.
I just don't want to stop existing.

[lipstick_kisses23]

im not exactly sure, i mean, the idea is pretty bitchin but how does it happen? I'd like to be more educated about this topic it's pretty interesting.

[Lord Anubis]

Souls do not exist. Therefore, reincarnation does not exist.

[ltimm]

Souls do not exist. Therefore, reincarnation does not exist.

How do you know souls don't exist??

Have they proved souls don't exist!?

[dead]

I don't beleive in reincarnations. Im a devoted Christian and reincarnations just dont make sense to me anyway.

Neither does Heaven and Hell

[2D]

I don't beleive in reincarnations. Im a devoted Christian and reincarnations just dont make sense to me anyway.

>implying Christianity makes sense

[BuryYourFlame]

It does to him and that should be all that matters unless it's hurting other people, which I see no evidence of. Some people just view the world differently, something that makes sense to one person won't make sense to another. He wasn't trying to bash the idea of reincarnation, he was just saying it didn't make sense to him as an individual.

[ShatteredWings]

No. It's a pointless belief, and doesn't account for growing populations.

Running under the assumption that the only creatures exist on earth

[Greggy]

I wish it did... Not going to say it doesn't, because there is no way to completely disprove it. But I highly doubt it's real. The concept of it is amazing though, and if I could choose anything to be real, I'd definitely pick this.

[Sage]

Running under the assumption that the only creatures exist on earth

Assumption =/= Refutation.

[Zephyr]

Reincarnation is a part of the Hinduism and Jainism belief systems. Reincarnation is one of those things that gets picked out of a religion and commercialized, so nobody ends up knowing where it really comes from. It's like a fad, people will believe in that single concept because it's 'cool' sounding, with no logical reasoning as to why they 'believe' in it.

In A Nutshell: With true reincarnation, one's Atman (soul) is immortal and is constantly striving towards reaching Nirvana, which can be described as 'the final release'. Once one reaches Nirvana, their soul ceases to exist because they've managed to free them self of the reincarnation cycle by achieving Moksha (liberation from suffering (living)) through one of the Moksha paths.

Short answer: I'm Atheist, so no, I don not believe in reincarnation

[2D]

It does to him and that should be all that matters unless it's hurting other people, which I see no evidence of. Some people just view the world differently, something that makes sense to one person won't make sense to another. He wasn't trying to bash the idea of reincarnation, he was just saying it didn't make sense to him as an individual.

Point still stands. And yes, all that matters to him is believe in a wildly outlandish belief that is ludicrous when broken down.

[ShatteredWings]

Assumption =/= Refutation.

If you find the argument "implying Christianity makes sense" vaild, I see no reason why mine is anymore faulty.

[Sage]

If you find the argument "implying Christianity makes sense" vaild, I see no reason why mine is anymore faulty.

First, way to quote the wrong person. Second, your argument is founded on the assumption that aliens exist, something that has not been proven. Third, "implying Christianity makes sense" is perfectly valid, as one cannot prove that the universe was created and governed by a jew nailed to a plank of wood about two thousand years ago. You can say one cannot disprove them either, but of course, the burden of evidence falls upon you to prove something, not those of a dissenting viewpoint to disprove it.

[Dive to Survive]

...that is ludicrous when broken down.

Thats why i go by faith not by sight :)

[Michaell]

its just iunno thought i put it down since theirs no way of knowin, just a little theory(condensed). its not exactly recarnating

a coin can be flip HEADS a thousand times in a row, IF you flip it enough. understand that and ul lget the rest.

now over the next thousand or so years if humans dont blow them selfs up with nukes. then theirs a chance! (the smallest of chances, 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001, in probalility if anythign possible will happen)
that their could be someone who looks exactly like you, who has the smae brain structure of you, a replica/version of you. you could be living one of them now.

the things u do now could make life more plesent or difficult for your replica. (not to sure about this sentence...still need ot hink mroe about it)

[2D]

Thats why i go by faith not by sight :)

I have nothing to say to this except I hope you open your eyes sooner rather than later.

[Sage]

could be someone who looks exactly like you, who has the smae brain structure of you, a replica/version of you.

This is the part where all the biologists in the room point and laugh at you.

[Michaell]

This is the part where all the biologists in the room point and laugh at you.

whys that?

[deadpie]

Thats why i go by faith not by sight :)

That's like saying, "I close my eyes while walking on the street hoping not to be hit by a car."

[AgusCO]

whys that?

Probably because there is no DNA thingy that it's exactly the same to another one, due to breeding...or something like that, IDK.

[Michaell]

Probably because there is no DNA thingy that it's exactly the same to another one, due to breeding...or something like that, IDK.

like i said earlier, if you flip the coin enough times. doesnt mean the rpelica will come in a thosunad years, mabye like billions.

[Greggy]

like i said earlier, if you flip the coin enough times. doesnt mean the rpelica will come in a thosunad years, mabye like billions.

Wow...
There are only two possible outcomes for flipping a coin. Unless it lands standing up, then you're born Chuck Norris.

[Michaell]

Wow...
There are only two possible outcomes for flipping a coin. Unless it lands standing up, then you're born Chuck Norris.

ya, who says that someone in the very far future oculdnt haev the same arrangement?(or extremly similar) just have enough people have sex enough times

[Greggy]

ya, who says that someone in the very far future oculdnt haev the same arrangement?(or extremly similar) just have enough people have sex enough times

........

[Sage]

like i said earlier, if you flip the coin enough times. doesnt mean the rpelica will come in a thosunad years, mabye like billions.

And of course the chance of that happening is so ridiculously small that it's not even worth arguing when it comes to reincarnation.

[Michaell]

........

ur not exactly sayin my thought is wrong.

[Greggy]

ur not exactly sayin my thought is wrong.

I'm still trying to understand what you said.

[Sage]

ur not exactly sayin my thought is wrong.

Hello? Do I not deserve a response as well?

[Greggy]

Hello? Do I not deserve a response as well?

I agree with you. ;D

[Dive to Survive]

I have nothing to say to this except I hope you open your eyes sooner rather than later.

Id rather live my life beleiving and be dissapointed in the end than be wrong and have God point it out to me later. :D

[Sage]

Id rather live my life beleiving and be dissapointed in the end than be wrong and have God point it out to me later. :D

Pascal was a dumbass, I hope you know that, right?

Your god is no less likely to be real than the countless others people have believed in.

[deadpie]

Id rather live my life beleiving and be dissapointed in the end than be wrong and have God point it out to me later. :D

God won't point out anything to you because their is no proof that he has spoken one word to anyone ever. So your chance of some guy in the clouds telling you something is very very low.

[Dive to Survive]

Your god is no less likely to be real than the countless others people have believed in.

They can believe in theirs. That's of no matter to me.

God won't point out anything to you because their is no proof that he has spoken one word to anyone ever. So your chance of some guy in the clouds telling you something is very very low.

I dont need "chance". And honestly, I dont care what the chances are. When Im in trial in court of The Lord, he will point out to me my sins.

[deadpie]

I dont need "chance". And honestly, I dont care what the chances are. When Im in trial in court of The Lord, he will point out to me my sins.

I don't remember the Lord having a court.

[Sage]

When Im in trial in court of The Lord, he will point out to me my sins.

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

[Giles]

I'm just going to ignore the debate above me because I cant be arsed to get involved in it...

I'd like to think there was such a thing as reincarnation, anything like that would make me feel better. I don't like the idea of death being the end of all things (lord of the rings quote :D yay).

[Jenna.]

No, I don't believe in reincarnation. I'm Christian so I believe when you die, your soul goes to Heaven/Hell.

[OnceMoreWithFeeling]

I think that when we die we have a chocie. I do belive.

[Sage]

I think that when we die we have a chocie. I do belive.

Care to elaborate?

[Dive to Survive]

I don't remember the Lord having a court.

you obviously dont remember a lot of things. go read Revelations than return here.

[pixie1234]

yes i do beleive in reincarnation, my mum thinks i was reincarnated :S wont tell you what from (a bit freakyy and youll think im weird - if you already dont) :L xx

[Peace God]

I'm sure of only one thing. No one knows what happens when you die.
But i do understand how people come up with the concepts of reincarnation and heaven.
It's hard to comprehend the possibility of you not being able to exist anymore. In order to understand people feel the need to create another viewpoint(reincarnation) or create a place to go other than this world(heaven).

did god create you and heaven? or did you create heaven and god?
Id rather live my life beleiving and be dissapointed in the end than be wrong and have God point it out to me later. :D
ive never understood the "just in case" argument

[Giles]

ive never understood the "just in case" argument

It's like taking a magic pill that has a 1/10 chance of preventing cancer, that doesn't cause and side affects at all.

I'm taking it just in case, there's no down sides. So why not.

It's the same with believing in reincarnation.
Believe in case it does exist, if it doesn't then it's a shame. If it does then there you go.

[Sage]

It's like taking a magic pill that has a 1/10 chance of preventing cancer, that doesn't cause and side affects at all.

Only it's more like 1/370,000,000 given that there are many, many different religions.

[Peace God]

Only it's more like 1/370,000,000 given that there are many, many different religions.
+ the improbability of any religion being right in the first place + the improbability that the supreme being of that religion likes you enough to give you a second life

[Giles]

Only it's more like 1/370,000,000 given that there are many, many different religions.

Was only an example, just explaining the 'just in case' idea.

[Asylum]

i beleive in reincarnation

[UnknownError]

I wanna be reborn as a shelf! :D