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Whisper
June 28th, 2006, 05:20 AM
A whopping 88% of Americans have a favourable view of Canada despite Ottawa's refusal to join the Iraq war and the recent arrest of homegrown terrorists, according to a new poll.

At the same time, only 4% were aware that Canada is the No. 1 supplier of oil and gas to the United States, ahead of perceived major exporters such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran.

Even further, 41% of the 1,000 voting Americans polled said they would pay more for oil if they were assured it came from a perceived safe source such as Canada instead of the volatile Middle East.

"Americans are especially open to an expanded energy relationship with Canada," Randolph Dove, chairman of the Canada-American Business Council, said yesterday.

The council said 54% of Americans it polled across both major political parties were "strongly favourable" to Canada while 7% had unfavourable views.
The poll, which has a margin of error of just over 3%, coincided with a drive by Ottawa and Alberta to increase Americans' awareness of the close energy links between the two countries.

"This poll serves to substantiate the tremendous opportunity for co-operation between the U.S. and Canada on energy security issues," said Murray Smith, a minister-counsellor for the Alberta government in Washington.

"We must work together to ensure a level of energy supply sufficient to meet rapidly rising demand, as well as to avert the potentially devastating economic impact of a significant supply disruption," he said.

The poll is a jump-off point for the Alberta and Canadian governments to convince Congress and Americans to minimize potential disruptions in both pipeline construction and the movement of skilled labour between the two countries, Mr. Smith said at a news conference.

"We want skilled workers to be able to move freely over the border," he said.
In addition, Mr. Smith said Canada would like to see a streamlined pipeline approval process to allow oil from the vast Alberta oilsands to move to refineries such as those along the Gulf of Mexico .

Alberta is the major supplier of energy to the U.S. About 85% of the province's exports head to the U.S. and, of that, about 85% are oil and gas.
Mr. Smith said Alberta wants to re-assure U.S. investors it is safe to invest in major projects such as the oilsands and that natural gas shipped from Alaska in the US$25-billion proposed Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline would end up in the lower 48 states.
"The gas belongs to whomever puts it in the pipeline," he said.

Mr. Smith said he was convinced that such a huge favourable view of Canada was "a sign there is a real willingness to have a seamless border."

The administration of President George W. Bush is pushing ahead with a new border card for Americans and Canadians by 2008 to boost border security.
Ottawa and many border state governments are worried the pass will stifle movement of trade and people across the border.

The Alberta government is holding a week of promotion in the nation's capital. Alberta Premier Ralph Klein is in Washington ahead of the planned visit next week by Prime Minister Stephen Harper to meet with Mr. Bush.

LIsailer19
June 28th, 2006, 06:06 AM
wow i though most of our oil came form saudi arabia, or at least thats what our asshole president would have you think.

redcar
June 28th, 2006, 07:43 AM
i think everyone thinks that the whole worlds oil supply comes from the middle east, like on a global scale you just wouldnt think Canada having all that oil. people prob dont know it cause they're mad as a bag of springs in the middle east so that gets more news time and all that.

LIsailer19
June 28th, 2006, 08:42 AM
i knew canada had the oil, because alaska has oil and alaska is basically the same as canada (in terms of land anyway), but i didnt know that canada suppluied so much oil to the united states. but yea alex i agree people think oil only comes from the middle east cause of all the news and stuff but actually there is oil all over the world. :cool:

Whisper
June 28th, 2006, 09:35 AM
Alaska has like ZERO oil
seriously its deposits are so small its not worth the cost to extract nor the severe damage to the enviroment it will cause
that crap bush is going on about huge oil deposits there is a load a crap
and canada does have certian areas that are similar to alaska but that dosent mean the entire countrys like that
were the second largest country on the planet
do you really think its all the same?

alberta alone is RIGHT on saudis ass in a few short years Alberta will be producing twice the amount of saudi arabia
not including the deposits in other areas of the country not to mention our oils allot more stable
it wont be blown up or set on fire by terrorists
hostile governments wont use it as a barganing chip etc...

Charlotte
June 29th, 2006, 08:59 PM
I never knew that Canada had all the oil too. Mainly, like Alex said I thought it came from the middle east mainly because of the media.

LIsailer19
July 1st, 2006, 06:55 AM
Alaska has like ZERO oil
seriously its deposits are so small its not worth the cost to extract nor the severe damage to the enviroment it will cause
that crap bush is going on about huge oil deposits there is a load a crap
and canada does have certian areas that are similar to alaska but that dosent mean the entire countrys like that
were the second largest country on the planet
do you really think its all the same?

alaska has alot more oil than you think. there are huge depsoits near prudhoe bay and barrow. alaska could power the united states for 2 years, although your'e right its not worth it to destroy that enviroment just for some cheap oil. and when its all gone we're right back where we started. george fucking bush cant understand that though. and yes i know canada is the second biggest, what i meant is alaska's climate and land is similar to youkon, BC, and Northwest territories. not that the entire country is the same. there is also oil in the continental US. there is oil and coal in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, etc. Half of the state of montana is sitting on coal. Half the 4th largest state! and researchers in montana have discovered a process that turns coal into gas that can be used in cars. i'm a little off topic now but my point is that america does produce oil domestically, and that we're not completley dependent on forigen oil. but i didnt know that so much oil was in canada.

p.s. happy 2 year (and one day) anniversay at VT Cody ;)

Whisper
July 1st, 2006, 07:51 AM
http://www.davidphoto.ca/media/travel/Alberta/truck2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/6369/syncrude-2.jpg

The Alberta Government calculates that about 28 billion cubic metres (174 billion barrels) of crude bitumen are economically recoverable from the three Alberta oil sands areas at current prices using current technology. This is equivalent to about 10% of the estimated 1,700 and 2,500 billion barrels of bitumen in place. [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_tar_sands#_note-0). Alberta estimates that the Athabasca deposits alone contain 5.6 billion cubic metres (35 billion barrels) of surface mineable bitumen and 15.6 billion cubic metres (98 billion barrels) of bitumen recoverable by in-situ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-situ) methods. These estimates of Canada's oil reserves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves) caused some astonishment when they were first published but are now largely accepted by the international community.


The Alberta estimates in some ways are extremely conservative, since they assume a recovery rate of around 20% of bitumen in place, whereas oil companies using the new steam assisted gravity drainage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_assisted_gravity_drainage) method of extracting bitumen report that they can recover over 60% with little effort. These much higher recovery rates probably mean that the ultimate production could be several times as high as the already very large government estimates.

At current rates of production, the Athabasca oil sands reserves would last over 400 years. However, they are unlikely to stay that way given the current supply shortage in the world. Assuming that Alberta quadrupled its production of oil, exporting most of it to the United States, the oil sands would last over 100 years.

http://www.ags.gov.ab.ca/GRAPHICS/CBM/oil_sands/alberta_oil_sands_map2.jpg

p.s. happy 2 year (and one day) anniversay at VT Cody ;)

Thanks man! :)

TheWizard
July 2nd, 2006, 03:46 PM
I never knew that. Canada is awesome. :)

Triple7
July 3rd, 2006, 10:09 AM
More than the Middle East and Canada:

OPEC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC#Membership

Oil-producing states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil-producing_states