Russian.

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

I'm going to be self teaching myself Russian.
I was wondering if any of you had done this, and if not with Russian what language did you teach yourself and how hard would you say it was?

[Mr. Smithers]

Russian is a very hard language to learn. The accent is also very hard to pick up on too. My godmother spoke fluent russian, I asked her to teach me some, she just explained to me it's too complicated to teach me.

Try searching google or in your local library. Good luck though.

[Magus]

Yeah/ Want to learn some l337 РYCCKNN, huh? Though, the N's are like in LIИKIИ PARK.

I can do the pronunciation. I am from the region in anyways.

I tried to teach my self through free-online courses around the net.
Some pay off, some didn't. All in all it went terrible.

I at least I get know how to say hello and bye. Previet - Hello / Dasvedanyeh - Farewell.

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

Russian is a very hard language to learn. The accent is also very hard to pick up on too. My godmother spoke fluent russian, I asked her to teach me some, she just explained to me it's too complicated to teach me.

Try searching google or in your local library. Good luck though.

The accent won't be a problem. I've been mimicking t.A.T.u from their interviews where they speak Russian. The only accent that's ever been a problem for me is Spanish, I can not do a Spanish accent.
Supposedly English is the hardest language to learn so.. lol

[Perseus]

The accent won't be a problem. I've been mimicking t.A.T.u from their interviews where they speak Russian. The only accent that's ever been a problem for me is Spanish, I can not do a Spanish accent.
Supposedly English is the hardest language to learn so.. lol

Russian has a very different alphabet(Cyrillic , if you didn't know). Since there are probably not a lot of cognates, it will be hard for you to learn. Why do you want to learn Russian, if I may ask.

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

Russian has a very different alphabet(Cyrillic , if you didn't know). Since there are probably not a lot of cognates, it will be hard for you to learn. Why do you want to learn Russian, if I may ask.

*shrugs*
Just want to learn it. Russian and Japanese I love the way they sound.
I know some Japanese and I don't speak any other language so I figured I might as well learn Russian.

[Richthegamer99]

if you going to learn russain try learn some ukraine we use the same albfebt as russain but differnt words/spelling

[Jean Poutine]

The accent won't be a problem. I've been mimicking t.A.T.u from their interviews where they speak Russian. The only accent that's ever been a problem for me is Spanish, I can not do a Spanish accent.
Supposedly English is the hardest language to learn so.. lol

what

russian is by far one of the hardest languages to pronounce. think english but all backwards.

stress in not predictable so you have to learn it for every word you speak. unless you enjoy telling people you piss (PIsat') instead of write (piSAT').

not to mention different declination tables (i hope you know what those are) for both palatised and unpalatised stems, plus other declination groups, a whole bunch of casas to memorise the use of, along with the damn alphabet that barely spells out how words are going to be pronounced...

the defense language institute calculated something like 700-800 hours of immersive instruction to achieve intermediate fluency.

you won't be self-teaching yourself anything anytime soon. why don't you try learning something more like zipping up your fly?

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

what

russian is by far one of the hardest languages to pronounce. think english but all backwards.

stress in not predictable so you have to learn it for every word you speak. unless you enjoy telling people you piss (PIsat') instead of write (piSAT').

not to mention different declination tables (i hope you know what those are) for both palatised and unpalatised stems, plus other declination groups, a whole bunch of casas to memorise the use of, along with the damn alphabet that barely spells out how words are going to be pronounced...

the defense language institute calculated something like 700-800 hours of immersive instruction to achieve intermediate fluency.

you won't be self-teaching yourself anything anytime soon. why don't you try learning something more like zipping up your fly?

Actually I will be self-teaching. You'd be surprised what people can learn to do by themselves. And if you're going around telling people that they can't do something because it'll be hard, I see why you have you rep turned off.

[Scarface]

what

russian is by far one of the hardest languages to pronounce. think english but all backwards.

stress in not predictable so you have to learn it for every word you speak. unless you enjoy telling people you piss (PIsat') instead of write (piSAT').

not to mention different declination tables (i hope you know what those are) for both palatised and unpalatised stems, plus other declination groups, a whole bunch of casas to memorise the use of, along with the damn alphabet that barely spells out how words are going to be pronounced...

the defense language institute calculated something like 700-800 hours of immersive instruction to achieve intermediate fluency.

you won't be self-teaching yourself anything anytime soon. why don't you try learning something more like zipping up your fly?

I think your views are superfluousness to what his capability's are. If one has the motivation and the inhibition they can do anything that they want to. It seems to me that your quite pessimistic. You make a valid point where the language Is hard, but never underestimate ones intelligence. My friend taught himself Arabic and that also Is a very difficult language so before you make bias comments unless you have 100% facts of who your talking about. have a nice day.

[Jove]

Actually I will be self-teaching. You'd be surprised what people can learn to do by themselves. And if you're going around telling people that they can't do something because it'll be hard, I see why you have you rep turned off.

I think your views are superfluousness to what his capability's are. If one has the motivation and the inhibition they can do anything that they want to. It seems to me that your quite pessimistic. You make a valid point where the language Is hard, but never underestimate ones intelligence. My friend taught himself Arabic and that also Is a very difficult language so before you make bias comments unless you have 100% facts of who your talking about. have a nice day.




*Facepalm*

To the two idiots that gave negative rep, (what does that even do?)

He isn't saying that you can't, as such.

He's more saying that it is INCREDIBLY HOLY FUCK SHIT DIFFICULT.

[Jean Poutine]

Actually I will be self-teaching. You'd be surprised what people can learn to do by themselves. And if you're going around telling people that they can't do something because it'll be hard, I see why you have you rep turned off.

rep is meaningless and that is why it's turned off. no wonder you have so little. LOL!

languages are always better learned with a trained professional that brings a pedagogical approach. he knows what you need to learn first and in what order. at best, self-learning is going to get you to speak "canned", sets of prefabricated phrases that allow no room for individual, clearer expression of the mind. self-learning correctly is so hard it's not even worth it, unless of course you're in a total immersion environment, like dumped in russia.

i've met people who were self-teaching french. their standard was always abysmal for the length of time it took them. why would you be an exception?

if it takes trained soldiers 800 hours in an immersive environment to achieve only INTERMEDIATE fluency (and believe me, "intermediate" is nowhere near enough), how many hours do you think it will take you to reach not even competent, but basic fluency? it'll be an affair of years just to be able to convey basic thoughts.

i will reiterate :

unless you hold substantial prior knowledge in every aspect of linguistics, self-teaching a language is so much trouble that it is not worth it.

stop trying to be a special snowflake and just take classes at a language institute or at a community college. it'd be much quicker for you and even less hard on the wallet.

you would learn much more in one year of correctly held language classes than going through an assimil method. i know this by experience.

of course you were going to order textbooks and knew which ones were the best ones, right? what about idiom dictionaries, and an usual dictionary, and exercice books? and you of course had contacts that could converse with you in russian and that were knowledgeable enough about phonology to correct your accent?

or were you going to go around and sleuth for free russian courses on the internet? heh. i bet that's what you were going to do.

I think your views are superfluousness to what his capability's are. If one has the motivation and the inhibition they can do anything that they want to. It seems to me that your quite pessimistic. You make a valid point where the language Is hard, but never underestimate ones intelligence. My friend taught himself Arabic and that also Is a very difficult language so before you make bias comments unless you have 100% facts of who your talking about. have a nice day.

pot calling the kettle black. i learned this one recently. yeah, my views are "superfluousness". possessive pronoun noun verb noun. good going there buddy. seems like you're trying to use big words here but sorry, you're not quite cutting it. fyi, the correct word to use here is the adjective "superfluous", and it still has no logical meaning in your sentence. if my views were "superflous" then they would be either overly optimistic, but that's archaic, or there was no real need for them. the latter makes more sense but for either you need to cut off the subordinate you have running after the word.

you can speak with me about languages once you learn yours correctly. you may think i'm mean but i'm simply showing you the errors of your ways.

now going with the most important...

you're the one who has no base here, kiddo. you're assuming that i have no idea of what i am talking about.

newsflash, i graduated in modern languages in college. i know just how hard it is. i spent 3 years in german and it's still shit. ich habe für drei Jahre Deutsch gelernt und meine Deutschsprache ist immer noch Scheiße.

i also happen to have self-learned english. how's that for a surprise?

you know how much time it took me to reach this level? 11 years. even so, now and then i will encounter new words, new idioms that i did not know about, i will read cultural jerks that make no sense to me. learning a language is learning culture, not just sounds and words. i still write "me and my mom" instead of "my mom and i" as just one of numerous other obvious gallicisms to the trained eye. it took college to get me to write "if i were" instead of "if i was".

that's eleven fucking years of speaking to you guys and i still make elementary-grade errors because i had NO. PROPER. GUIDANCE.

anyway, have fun, pip-pip and all that. i obviously can't dissuade your hyperactive, "i'm invincible" teenager mind - it'll go away though. i can guarantee that you'll give up very fast with the effort involved, especially if your only motivation is "hur dur i jst wana speek anotha ranguage lol".

[Gumleaf]

the last time i checked this was a topic about self learning to speak russian, not whether or not its possible to do it and how well people use the english language. can we stay on topic please.

[Atonement]

I'm going to be self teaching myself Russian.
I was wondering if any of you had done this, and if not with Russian what language did you teach yourself and how hard would you say it was?

Possible: Yes.
Probable: No.
Now, learning a language on your own, you will make many many mistakes. Though, if you want to learn some basic phrases, words, some very basic grammar, such as the indicative present tense hopefully. Also, if you planned to take a formal class in the future, it would be a good idea to learn the language now. I believe it CAN be done. But, I don't believe there is a program out there right now to teach you.

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

Possible: Yes.
Probable: No.
Now, learning a language on your own, you will make many many mistakes. Though, if you want to learn some basic phrases, words, some very basic grammar, such as the indicative present tense hopefully. Also, if you planned to take a formal class in the future, it would be a good idea to learn the language now. I believe it CAN be done. But, I don't believe there is a program out there right now to teach you.

lol
Rosetta Stone might be a good program..but costs alot of money! XD
I have a Travel Phrase Book and a Russian Grammar Book so hopefully I can learn it someone. I don't have plans to learn the whole language anytime soon, But I'd like to pick it up over time. I also have a few friends in Russia so that'll help.

[Atonement]

Well, I wish you good luck, because you'll need it. :) Lots of sources can be confusing, but if you can understand everything and mash it together, many resources working together can really help. And you're right, Rosetta Stone costs a ton. Before you start on Russian though, I suggest you study up on a lot of English grammar terms. I mean, I assume you know simple stuff like adjective, adverb, noun, etc. But know your cases, dative, accusative, nomitive, etc.
Good luck :D

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

Well, I wish you good luck, because you'll need it. :) Lots of sources can be confusing, but if you can understand everything and mash it together, many resources working together can really help. And you're right, Rosetta Stone costs a ton. Before you start on Russian though, I suggest you study up on a lot of English grammar terms. I mean, I assume you know simple stuff like adjective, adverb, noun, etc. But know your cases, dative, accusative, nomitive, etc.
Good luck :D

Hmmm...Time to harass the Grammar Freaks! XD
I already know some of the words and spellings also.

[Jean Poutine]

it's "nominative"

LOLOLOL