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Evermore
March 22nd, 2010, 02:48 PM
Spanking as a form of discipline. Your thoughts?
Perseus
March 22nd, 2010, 02:53 PM
I think it's fine if done right. But I do find it goofy when people take off the pants and make the spanking on the butt check. :P
karl
March 22nd, 2010, 02:54 PM
As a form of discipline it hurts.
Evermore
March 22nd, 2010, 02:56 PM
Yes, I agree. No clothes should be taken off. If you think it doesn't hurt enough get a bigger paddle or work out. Do not smack your child's ass.
The Batman
March 22nd, 2010, 03:01 PM
I was just reading about this in my psychology book. Spanking can cause more agression in children and tbh it's a barbaric form of punishment. Growing up I was afraid of getting one but the pain went away the worst feeling I ever got after doing something wrong was feeling like I let my parents down. I think that by talking to kids and using loss of privileges as a punishment it would do more good than a spanking would.
DayBreakArt
March 22nd, 2010, 03:08 PM
If your kid leaves the milk out and you go spanking them that's over board and really ridiculous but some kids, no matter how many times you ground them or talk to them they don't listen so sometimes spanking is okay. My definition of spanking is using your hand on the child's bum. Not a belt or any other weapon. Hitting/beating your child is wrong but a firm smack on the bum isn't that bad. There are only a few circumstances where I find spanking to be alright though. Talking/grounding is a much better punishment.
Perseus
March 22nd, 2010, 03:10 PM
I was just reading about this in my psychology book. Spanking can cause more agression in children and tbh it's a barbaric form of punishment. Growing up I was afraid of getting one but the pain went away the worst feeling I ever got after doing something wrong was feeling like I let my parents down. I think that by talking to kids and using loss of privileges as a punishment it would do more good than a spanking would.
Not in every case does it make the child more aggresive. I was spanked a couple of times and such. I'm not agressive and to be honest, the whole fact of me getting spanked made me not want to do "bad" things. I think the fear part does more than the pain part. Also, not everyone listens with a "stern talking to". In all honesty, are you going to listen to someone if they just hurt you or if they just did nothing and started babling?
The Batman
March 22nd, 2010, 03:18 PM
Not in every case does it make the child more aggresive. I was spanked a couple of times and such. I'm not agressive and to be honest, the whole fact of me getting spanked made me not want to do "bad" things. I think the fear part does more than the pain part. Also, not everyone listens with a "stern talking to". In all honesty, are you going to listen to someone if they just hurt you or if they just did nothing and started babling?
That's why i said talking and a loss of privileges which pretty much means getting grounded and you're afraid that if you do something bad you'll feel the pain again. Spanking isn't really needed these days because there are studies out there that show better alternatives to it.
Perseus
March 22nd, 2010, 03:29 PM
That's why i said talking and a loss of privileges which pretty much means getting grounded and you're afraid that if you do something bad you'll feel the pain again. Spanking isn't really needed these days because there are studies out there that show better alternatives to it.
I agree with you, but kids are still gonna understand the rules a lot better if there is slight pain involved. I'm not talking about minor things but serious things, i.e. playing baseball inside a house or something. Fear and letting your parents down plays more of a role, I think, in most kids, though.
2D
March 22nd, 2010, 03:53 PM
It's effective at the time, but in my humble opinion I think it represses some stuff. Look at me.
JackOfClubs
March 22nd, 2010, 05:20 PM
I feel that a light spanking every now and then can't hurt. Hell, I was hit with a wooden spoon across the butt when I was really punished. People are getting way too PC now.
Disconected
March 22nd, 2010, 05:37 PM
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Sage
March 22nd, 2010, 05:49 PM
I find people who've been hurt in the past always have more interesting lives.
pageplant77
March 22nd, 2010, 09:22 PM
Spanking is nothing compared to what happened when my dad was growing up and he disobeyed....
He grew up on a farm and whenever he got in trouble my grandpa would take him out back to the willow and he would pick out his own branch to be hit with, and all my dads brothers and sisters would have to watch as this was going on. It taught him discipline and humility.
Omgthatsme
March 22nd, 2010, 09:25 PM
I don't like it.
JackOfClubs
March 22nd, 2010, 09:29 PM
i think spanking just degrades the child. how weak is the parent that he actually has to resort to violence against his own child?? a symbolic tap on the ass will work for most kids, but to actually cause pain is inhumaine. my dad was very abusive, i would have bruises all over my ass and legs. he even gave me a black eye when i was 9 so i will never hit my child. grounding or taking away privilages and talking bout the reasons why this is being done would be the correct way to punish a child and not ruin the relationship with them
I'm sorry to hear that. But, taking possessions does not work, my parents take my stuff away all the time but I haven't changed. It just pisses the erson off more.
INFERNO
March 23rd, 2010, 01:35 AM
I'm in support of spanking but only in very limited circumstances and it would never be bare bottom, only once or two for each time, not so hard that it causes large bruises or immense pain, limited contexts (i.e. spanking when your kid hits another kid I find ridiculous), limits on the age when used and always tell the kid why they're getting spanked. When I become a parent, spanking really is something I'd want to avoid not because I was heavily abused in that way or anything but rather because I just think that if each time your kid does something wrong, if you have to treat them like a personal punching bag, then that seems like poor parenting.
When I have a kid, then I'm going to raise it out of love. This doesn't mean I'm going to spoil the kid until hell freezes over but spanking over and over, what does that teach the kid? It may teach not to do whatever the action was they got the spanking for. But kids also learn by observation a lot so there's a higher chance they'll go about and hit others, and that may lead to more spanking. In other words, depending on how often it is used, it may only fuel the fire and not douse the fire.
Shadoukun
March 24th, 2010, 12:51 PM
I was just reading about this in my psychology book. Spanking can cause more agression in children and tbh it's a barbaric form of punishment. Growing up I was afraid of getting one but the pain went away the worst feeling I ever got after doing something wrong was feeling like I let my parents down. I think that by talking to kids and using loss of privileges as a punishment it would do more good than a spanking would.
When I was a young child feeling like I had done something disappointing was non-existent. Younger children don't have a concept of this. Slightly older children? Maybe.
Sage
March 24th, 2010, 05:17 PM
I think not disciplining your children is greater abuse than a slap on the ass could ever be. Some kids get the right idea about things the first time. Other kids need to be fixed like TVs.
Aves
March 24th, 2010, 08:14 PM
It's fine if you ask me. They need to know when they do something wrong, and if they aren't physically disciplined, they are gonna see no reason not to do it again most likely.
CaptainObvious
March 24th, 2010, 08:43 PM
I have no problem with it in limited circumstances. There are certainly children for whom a spoken exposition of their misdeeds would not be enough; what do you do then? Would all of you suggesting spanking is unacceptable prefer parents scream at their children, or something? To me, that seems more abusive than a calmly delivered corporal punishment of reasonable length.
Corporal punishment need not always be abuse, and just because a punishment is not physical does not mean it is not abusive. There are some extreme circumstances in which for the child's own good the additional punctuation of a little physical pain can be very useful, and parents ought to have the right to spank in such cases. That punishment should always be delivered without anger, however.
Also, I don't see why removing clothes is such a big deal. Getting spanked is really not painful through clothes unless the hits being delivered are extremely hard.
INFERNO
March 24th, 2010, 10:11 PM
Also, I don't see why removing clothes is such a big deal. Getting spanked is really not painful through clothes unless the hits being delivered are extremely hard.
Removing the clothes can lead to either humiliation of the child, which goes beyond simply giving punishment and it could also lead to (although I suppose less often) to association with sexual endevours. By removing the clothes, it exposes the child to everyone and gives the perception that the child is weak and has figuratively been stripped of everything that they are worth.
CaptainObvious
March 24th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Removing the clothes can lead to either humiliation of the child, which goes beyond simply giving punishment and it could also lead to (although I suppose less often) to association with sexual endevours. By removing the clothes, it exposes the child to everyone and gives the perception that the child is weak and has figuratively been stripped of everything that they are worth.
The issue of public exposure is not necessarily raised by this; many spankings take place in private. If it's in private, I don't see how removal of the clothes is associated with much other than effective delivery of the spanking. Even if it is associated in the child's mind with a certain amount of submission to authority, wouldn't that just be part of the effectiveness of the punishment? I don't purport that spanking should be used in situations other than as a last resort, so that wouldn't seem wildly out of order to me.
INFERNO
March 26th, 2010, 06:09 PM
The issue of public exposure is not necessarily raised by this; many spankings take place in private. If it's in private, I don't see how removal of the clothes is associated with much other than effective delivery of the spanking. Even if it is associated in the child's mind with a certain amount of submission to authority, wouldn't that just be part of the effectiveness of the punishment? I don't purport that spanking should be used in situations other than as a last resort, so that wouldn't seem wildly out of order to me.
If it's in private, then you're right, it could help out with delivering the punishment but the problem exists with the fact that depending on the child's age, if the child is spanked by someone in authority, then there's a chance that the feelings of submission can occur when they're in the presence of some other authority figure. I'm not sure if you watch Hell's Kitchen but regardless, on one episode one chef named Robert was being called Bobby as a nickname by Chef Ramsey because after all, Bobby and Robert are commonly interchanged. However, that set Robert into not performing well at all because he was distraught on how his father, who called him Bobby beat him. The point is, even if the spanking is in private, if the child gets put in place of another authority, depending on what happens, the child could regress and be afraid simply, distraught, etc.... .
I agree that it could make the punishment in the here-and-now more effective but the consequences can be long-reaching, longer than perhaps desired and intended.
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