Killing

[Spinder]

Is it a sin to kill someone in self-defense, or in defending the life of another person?

Say a madman was attempting to shoot an innocent person who wanted nothing more than to get away from him. If I shot him, not with the intention of killing him, but simply to wound him so the person could safely get away, but he died anyway because the bullet hit him in just the wrong spot, would I be guilty of one of the worst sins one can commit?

What if someone was attempting to stab me, and I got a hold of their knife, and out of panic and desperation to protect myself I stabbed my attacker until they ceased to struggle with me so I could escape, and they end up dying later on because of it?

[Shadoukun]

Learn the definition of murder and then we'll talk, thanks.

[INFERNO]

When you mention sin, that's not the same as legal or illegal but rather what a belief system deems is bad. Unfortunately, the belief system you're using isn't specified and even if it were, many have so much variation that you'd need to explicity define what you support. Hence, you'd answer your own question and at that point, the purpose of this "debate" is over. In other words, the answer is within yourself, not within us, sorry, cant help, only you can help yourself here.

[BeautifulDisaster]

I don't think it is a "sin" to kill in self defense.

[Marcie]

I think it would be wrong to kill someone out of self defense. There are always ways to defend yourself with killing the other person..

[BeautifulDisaster]

Yes, with killing the person.
lol.

Yes, indeed there are, but if your life is in danger in that moment, it's either you or them.

[Marcie]

Yes, indeed there are, but if your life is in danger in that moment, it's either you or them.

Not really, if your life is in danger you can defend yourself without taking the other's life.. You would just need to incapacitate them to the point where you can call the authorities.

[BeautifulDisaster]

Not in some situations.

[Marcie]

Not in some situations.

Such as...

[Camazotz]

Such as...

In Modern Warfare 2 when Shepard is fighting Price. There's no way you (Soap) can get help from authorities. In order to save Price as well as yourself, you have to kill Shepard.

Although I agree that killing in self-defense should only be used in last resort, and I believe that killing another human being is immoral, there are situations in which killing is the only way to save yourself. I think if such a situation occurred, I wouldn't think twice of saving my own life.

[Perseus]

In Modern Warfare 2 when Shepard is fighting Price. There's no way you (Soap) can get help from authorities. In order to save Price as well as yourself, you have to kill Shepard.



He doesn't kill him, though. He just throws a knife into his eye and lets him fall to the ground, lol.

[Marcie]

In Modern Warfare 2 when Shepard is fighting Price. There's no way you (Soap) can get help from authorities. In order to save Price as well as yourself, you have to kill Shepard.

You can get help from authorities after you've incapacitated (without killing) him/her.

[Camazotz]

You can get help from authorities after you've incapacitated (without killing) him/her.

What if that's physically impossible? There are no weapons and your attacker is physically stronger than you? The simple question is this: Would you rather kill to save your own life, or be killed by an attacker?

[Perseus]

You can get help from authorities after you've incapacitated (without killing) him/her.

In his example, they're in the middle of the desert where no one can contact authorities, and plus, they're on the run because they killed a bunch of marines because America became all corrupt and what not. So, they can't tell anybody or else their shit will get rocked.

[Dive to Survive]

That's a good question. The Bible says that murder is a sin. Not necessarily killing, however, I'm not giving anyone an excuse. In war, it's usually necessary, it's killing not murdering in a war. That's my view anyway. Hope it helped! :)

[INFERNO]

That's a good question. The Bible says that murder is a sin. Not necessarily killing, however, I'm not giving anyone an excuse. In war, it's usually necessary, it's killing not murdering in a war. That's my view anyway. Hope it helped! :)

It depends which Testament you're using. In the Old Testament, it said you cannot kill without reason, whereas in the New Testament it's simply you cannot kill. Kill and murder are synonymous, although there are various types of murder, it's still ending someone else's life.

[Magus]

No, Killing for self defense isn't murder. As the intention was to defend lives and not to destroy lives, and that includes your life as well.

[Jess]

No, it's not a sin...if you're defending yourself or others

[2D]

In Modern Warfare 2 when Shepard is fighting Price. There's no way you (Soap) can get help from authorities. In order to save Price as well as yourself, you have to kill Shepard.

Although I agree that killing in self-defense should only be used in last resort, and I believe that killing another human being is immoral, there are situations in which killing is the only way to save yourself. I think if such a situation occurred, I wouldn't think twice of saving my own life.

So, the situation. You, an elite soldier doing special OP's missions in countries all across the world. I think killing doesn't matter to you at that point.

But if I was in that situation. Well, I wouldn't be. It's all wrong man. MW2 does not apply to real life in any way. Argument is meaningless.


BUT, if I were really in some similar situation with a knife. (that's what you said he used right?) I would go for the leg (with the knife), then choke him out. Simple as that, dawg.

[CuriousDestruction]

depends on the circumstances. self-defense is still murder. but it is justified murder.

[Marcie]

What if that's physically impossible? There are no weapons and your attacker is physically stronger than you? The simple question is this: Would you rather kill to save your own life, or be killed by an attacker?
If your attacked is physically stronger it's still possible to incapacitate him/her. I've done it before to someone 70 Lbs heaver then me, who is a LOT stronger and taller then I am. I knocked him out. Also, if you can incapacitate them how are you supposed to kill them..

In his example, they're in the middle of the desert where no one can contact authorities, and plus, they're on the run because they killed a bunch of marines because America became all corrupt and what not. So, they can't tell anybody or else their shit will get rocked.
Do you think you'll ever be in that kind of situation?

[Perseus]

If your attacked is physically stronger it's still possible to incapacitate him/her. I've done it before to someone 70 Lbs heaver then me, who is a LOT stronger and taller then I am. I knocked him out. Also, if you can incapacitate them how are you supposed to kill them..


Do you think you'll ever be in that kind of situation?

I didn't bring it up, lol. But you still didn't answer the question. :P

[Marcie]

I didn't bring it up, lol. But you still didn't answer the question. :P

You can still knock out/incapacitate the enemy and tie them up or where ever you need to do so that they can't attack you again. then go to where there is some sort of authority you can contact.

[2D]

You can still knock out/incapacitate the enemy and tie them up or where ever you need to do so that they can't attack you again. then go to where there is some sort of authority you can contact.

Or just leave their ass, I mean really. You don't always have to get the authorities.

[Marcie]

Or just leave their ass, I mean really. You don't always have to get the authorities.
That's true haha less work for you :P and once they wake up, they will have no idea where you are :P

[Asylum]

i had the same quesiton so i asked my religion teacher, he said that it is not a sin. he listed many reasons why, buti have forgottten them... if i remeber i'll edit and post here :D