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Asylum
March 9th, 2010, 10:25 AM
ok so yes this is a relgion rant...
so you hate other religons? well... almost all religious messages have love, i'm talking aobut main religions... like Christianity, Judiaism, Islam, Paganism, oh and Buddhism. Jesus was Jewish, so no Christians should be hating Jews... like seriously... What is God's and Jesus's message teach the truth... teach about love, nto hate... in the Koran it's the same message, love, so why hate another religion...? IT's not right... people seriously need to get over themselves and prejudices... Jews did not kill JEsus... Romans did... i don't wnat any religious arguemnts...

Aspiringanonymous
March 9th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Yes, I've always found that to be a great irony, if not something which put me off the idea of organized religion altogether. What kind of omnipotent, all-forgiving God says "I'll only extend my kindness to those who worship me"? Where exactly is tolerance and 'loving your enemy' among the preached virtues?

It just doesn't make sense, if one was to take the religion seriously and not dismiss it as 'man-made'.

Magus
March 9th, 2010, 12:10 PM
Buddhism and Taoism are philosophy and not a religion. Just like that guy....I forget his name....

It is Hinduism and not Buddhism. As Hinduism, Paganism, Ch-Ju-Is, Zoaraster(though, related to the other 3) they have deities to worship. While Buddhism and Taoism are philosophy and don't have either deities nor Gods in their set of beliefs.

As argument will shift to another level.

Let say the "man-made" part says hate and be done.

Sapphire
March 9th, 2010, 12:19 PM
Faris, why isn't Buddhism a religion?
A religion can be defined as being a set of beliefs, values and practices based on spiritual teachings.

Magus
March 9th, 2010, 12:27 PM
Faris, why isn't Buddhism a religion?
A religion can be defined as being a set of beliefs, values and practices based on spiritual teachings.

Is, it is a common misconcoption. It is a religion, but it doesn't have deities and God, for that matter any ways.

It doesn't say, Pray this god and what not and you sh...blah blah blah.

No; yes it is a set of beliefs, values and practices based on spiritual teachings.
If we go further on, it will become Spiritsim or opposed of spiritualism. Which they are not.

CuriousDestruction
March 9th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Faris, they are both religions but that does not relate to this discussion.

this is the sad thing about Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. they all preach love for one another and that every life is sacred. yet we have radical Muslims blowing themselves up on a daily basis. and Israelis murdering hundreds of Palestinians. not to mention radical christians slaughtering innocent civilians in Nigeria. it's just ridiculous.

now, this must also be said. these people, are radicals. they don't represent each religion respectively. they represent the militant radicals of those religions.

deadpie
March 9th, 2010, 05:56 PM
ok so yes this is a relgion rant...
so you hate other religons? well... almost all religious messages have love, i'm talking aobut main religions... like Christianity, Judiaism, Islam, Paganism, oh and Buddhism. Jesus was Jewish, so no Christians should be hating Jews... like seriously... What is God's and Jesus's message teach the truth... teach about love, nto hate... in the Koran it's the same message, love, so why hate another religion...? IT's not right... people seriously need to get over themselves and prejudices... Jews did not kill JEsus... Romans did... i don't wnat any religious arguemnts...

They also have murder, death, rape, and torture. So I think that over rules their love message.

Camazotz
March 9th, 2010, 08:09 PM
I'm hated among a group of my "friends" because we don't share the same religion. More specifically, my lack of a religion.

Sugaree
March 9th, 2010, 09:17 PM
Yes, I've always found that to be a great irony, if not something which put me off the idea of organized religion altogether. What kind of omnipotent, all-forgiving God says "I'll only extend my kindness to those who worship me"? Where exactly is tolerance and 'loving your enemy' among the preached virtues?

I like to think religions such as Christianity/Catholicism like to contradict each other. Love thy neighbor, but don't if they follow a different religion. It's the fact of the matter, I think, that people - be they religious or not - will always be this way. Be kind and forgiving of people, but only those people you want to like. I see it every day in my family and it disgusts me to the point of wondering how someone could so blindly follow.

It just doesn't make sense, if one was to take the religion seriously and not dismiss it as 'man-made'

Tell people who follow Christianity, Catholicism, and Islam that religion is man-made and see where it gets you. They will give you every single "reason" behind why their specific religion is not man-made. Jesus was a man...Mohammad was a man. They both made religions and, by making said religions, are seen as "holy men".

I'm hated among a group of my "friends" because we don't share the same religion. More specifically, my lack of a religion.

I've had the same issue with some people by being rejected and considered an outsider for my religious beliefs. I may believe in God, but that doesn't mean I believe everything the Church believes or what The Bible says. I find it funny how everyone categorizes anyone who doesn't believe in a higher power/being as some small carbon based life form that has no sense.

Shadoukun
March 10th, 2010, 10:39 AM
ok so yes this is a relgion rant...
so you hate other religons? well... almost all religious messages have love, i'm talking aobut main religions... like Christianity, Judiaism, Islam, Paganism, oh and Buddhism. Jesus was Jewish, so no Christians should be hating Jews... like seriously... What is God's and Jesus's message teach the truth... teach about love, nto hate... in the Koran it's the same message, love, so why hate another religion...? IT's not right... people seriously need to get over themselves and prejudices... Jews did not kill JEsus... Romans did... i don't wnat any religious arguemnts...

I hate all religion, not just other religions. Fear not.

Whisper
March 10th, 2010, 10:53 AM
I hate all religion, not just other religions. Fear not.

then you're as judgmental and as such as big a problem as the bible thumper's.

2D
March 10th, 2010, 11:04 AM
I've never thought of not loving someone. No matter how much it seems I hate someone I have love for them that is much stronger than any amount of dislike.

Magus
March 10th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Faris, they are both religions but that does not relate to this discussion.

this is the sad thing about Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. they all preach love for one another and that every life is sacred. yet we have radical Muslims blowing themselves up on a daily basis. and Israelis murdering hundreds of Palestinians. not to mention radical christians slaughtering innocent civilians in Nigeria. it's just ridiculous.

now, this must also be said. these people, are radicals. they don't represent each religion respectively. they represent the militant radicals of those religions.

Good woven and true words, what can I say more than this.

INFERNO
March 10th, 2010, 04:01 PM
I think people hate a certain religion, such as Christianity for one of a few common reasons. First, they see the extremists, which are found in any religion and unfortunately, they end up smearing people's conceptions of that religion. When people see an extremist killing people, they realize that the extremist is following his/her religion and so the religion must be at fault for instilling such values and morals. Second, in religions where there are books or masses, such as Christianity, you get to the topics of murder, rape and so forth, which in the bible is quite prominent. There is of course lots of teachings for love and kindness but the negative things, such as murder hits people harder and sticks in their mind longer. Third, is simply following a stereotype and being ill-informed. Not all stereotypes are necessarily bad but when they are, they're held very easily especially when someone is shown "evidence" for it. For example, suppose I told someone who never heard of Christianity that it's a belief all of love, forgiveness and such. They may like it until I tell them some of the stuff from the Old Testament and all the murders and rapes. They may then frown on that, then I show them examples of extremists and the bible-thumpers. To that person, they stereotyped Christianity as bad and don't support it and also have a negative bias to it. I mention it like this because I've met so many people who seem to be against something yet don't really understand what it is that they're against, and their negative views impede them from seeing what it truly is about: love, forgiveness, etc... because all they've seen or read was murder and rape, then condemned by bible-thumpers to hell for eternal suffering.

I find it unappealing when people hate a religion for such reasons.

The way I look at it is how I look at science: it's a tool and nothing more. A tool by itself is useless, it needs a person to operate it, and if it is operated with malicious intent, then it's not the tool's fault, it's the fault of the person. Too many blame the tool and not the person, or the wand and not the wizard, whatever analogy you like.

Shadoukun
March 10th, 2010, 07:53 PM
then you're as judgmental and as such as big a problem as the bible thumper's.

Can rightful judgement be held in the same hand as judgment influenced by deluded dogma?

Cosmic
March 10th, 2010, 08:00 PM
Unfortunately religion contradicts itself far too often - often it becomes its own worst enemy. Most religions may teach love; and that's admirable. But how many members of said religions preach love in its entirety? Not enough... and that undermines religion's credibility.

Also remember that, rightly or wrongly, religious texts have been the foundations of highly unfair, prejudiced societies such as patriarchy. That also influences people's perceptions of religion.

Chevy
March 10th, 2010, 09:29 PM
You dont have to bash religion. You can disagree respectfully

Evermore
March 11th, 2010, 12:27 AM
You're stereotyping by assuming all christians do that. The problem is when the majority/popular christians do something wrong it slanders the name of all christians.

I've found all religions have some truth to them.

Jamie
March 11th, 2010, 01:02 PM
I first would like to say... get a spell checker. Now that that's out of the way, let's get started.

ok so yes this is a relgion rant...

All right.

so you hate other religons?
I have a rather strong dislike at most of the religions in the world today. Including Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and Wicca.
well... almost all religious messages have love
Along with messages of horror and deception. Such as when 'God' supposedly flooded the entire Earth, killing most all of the world's population. Besides a tiny ark filled with the equivalence of the Central Park Zoo.
i'm talking aobut main religions... like Christianity, Judiaism, Islam, Paganism, oh and Buddhism.
You mean 'major'. Not 'main'.
Jesus was Jewish, so no Christians should be hating Jews...
I wasn't aware that was still a major global problem?
like seriously... What is God's and Jesus's' message teach the truth... teach about love, nto hate...
That was primarily Jesus' message. God in the first testament definitely was not a proponent of 'loving thy neighbor'.
in the Koran it's the same message, love,You mustn't of read of Muhammad's numerous rapes and 'booty' supposedly delivered from God. Surely he was a good man *sigh*.
so why hate another religion...?Because they all teach different supposed 'facts'. Or that's what they call the scum verses where men and women are murdered for apparently just looking at God the wrong way.
IT's not right... people seriously need to get over themselves and prejudicesAs well as their false childhood of church security blankets called 'religion'.
Jews did not kill JEsus...
You also mustn't of read the part where the Jews considered Jesus a blasphemer and WANTED the execution to occur in the first place.
\i don't wnat any religious arguemnts...
Fair enough. I don't look to start any. But am not going to allow myself to be replied to with hasty comments.