Nu-metal SUCKS!

[Apparitions]

Is it just me who thinks that most Nu Metal (maybe apart from Slipknot and Disturbed. Are Mudvayne nu metal? I like them) is shit? It is all samey, boring, generic and makes me want to fall asleep. Fucking deathcore is more inventive than Nu Metal. Discuss.

[Sugaree]

Slipknot and Disturbed aren't metal; they're more heavy rock than they are metal. I honestly can't stand the nu-metal out there. For me, it just lacks something...what that something is, I have no clue, but it just sounds like it lacks for me. Give me some classic Metallica, and I'll be fine ;D

[Apparitions]

Slipknot and Disturbed aren't metal; they're more heavy rock than they are metal. I honestly can't stand the nu-metal out there. For me, it just lacks something...what that something is, I have no clue, but it just sounds like it lacks for me. Give me some classic Metallica, and I'll be fine ;D
Damn right. Master of Puppets and Fade to Black usually helps my ears recover after having to listen to a shit Nu Metal song. No solos, boring riffs, generic lyrics and vocals = shit.

[Perseus]

I agree, all nu-metal except for Disturbed sucks. Slipnot and all those bands are just too generic.

[DoveGreySands]

I personally disagree, I like nu-metal. I like Korn, Limp Bizkit, P.O.D and most of all I love Linkin Park. All nu-metal, all great imo :)

[Apparitions]

I personally disagree, I like nu-metal. I like Korn, Limp Bizkit, P.O.D and most of all I love Linkin Park. All nu-metal, all great imo :)
How? There is nothing original about it imo.

[Magus]

I personally disagree, I like nu-metal. I like Korn, Limp Bizkit, P.O.D and most of all I love Linkin Park. All nu-metal, all great imo :)

Other then the aforementioned add Disturbed, Slipknot and Mudvayne to the group.

+ Korn is the one who brought the genre to its name.


Actually, Disturbed genre is still a debatable. Some says it is heavy rock than metal and some says it is Heavy Metal. But he himself saw bands like Korn and Slipknot in this genre. So David decided to go along with this genre.

I don't like Limp Bizkit, but Link Park is what I love....what's left of them prior 2006. The rest got shitty. I hate M2M.

Some of P.O.D are cool. Drowning Pool are also not bad (RIP Dave)

But they are called intertwined genre that brings along other type of Genre.

Take Tool for example, it is Progressive and Alternative. But take for example of Papa Roach too. That band is also branded as Nu-Metal and Alternative Metal.

Does both of the band tie them in Alternative Metal in any ways? No, both bands are different in style and way of presenting their songs.

Same goes with all tied in bands in the same genre.

[Centrist]

I <3 Nu-Metal. Industrial metal, death metal, whatever the hell you call it. It's personal preference, really. Music is all interpretive. It's not how fast or how loud you can play, but how you intercept the music in your own unique style.

[Magus]

I <3 Nu-Metal. Industrial metal, death metal, whatever the hell you call it. It's personal preference, really. Music is all interpretive. It's not how fast or how loud you can play, but how you intercept the music in your own unique style.

Yeah, Industrial is somewhat near to Nu-Metal. I prefer Static-X as my Industrial metal mates.

Especially in the usage of electronic materials. Like a synth used is some songs.

[DoveGreySands]

Other then the aforementioned add Disturbed, Slipknot and Mudvayne to the group.

+ Korn is the one who brought the genre to its name.


Actually, Disturbed genre is still a debatable. Some says it is heavy rock than metal and some says it is Heavy Metal. But he himself saw bands like Korn and Slipknot in this genre. So David decided to go along with this genre.

I don't like Limp Bizkit, but Link Park is what I love....what's left of them prior 2006. The rest got shitty. I hate M2M.

Some of P.O.D are cool. Drowning Pool are also not bad (RIP Dave)

But they are called intertwined genre that brings along other type of Genre.

Take Tool for example, it is Progressive and Alternative. But take for example of Papa Roach too. That band is also branded as Nu-Metal and Alternative Metal.

Does both of the band tie them in Alternative Metal in any ways? No, both bands are different in style and way of presenting their songs.

Same goes with all tied in bands in the same genre.

All great bands yes, definitely.

How? There is nothing original about it imo.

I don't care if it's unoriginal, as long as it sounds good and i can rock along to it i'm fine :)

[Rutherford The Brave]

Yeah, Industrial is somewhat near to Nu-Metal. I prefer Static-X as my Industrial metal mates.

Especially in the usage of electronic materials. Like a synth used is some songs.

Which stole its Name from Racer X and then lost thousands to Paul Gilbert...

[Black or White]

I havent listened to much nu-metal since I was about 13-15 years old but back then I loved it, these days I do look back and think oh my god that music was crap in comparison to such and such who I listen to now but back then we all loved it and it was what was popular at the time, a lot of the music made by nu-metal bands is marketed to teens so I am not surprised so many really like it.

[Magus]

But one thing that made Nu-Metal a fail.

"Stage Play" Disturbed, Linkin Park, Slipknot and even Korn. That's what I hate in them is they cannot play live concerts properly.

[Hatsune Miku]

I like Nu-Metal. I don't really see it being the same. Slipknot and S.O.A.D for example. Their nothing alike. But I like all metals, well almost all. I'm not a big fan of Viking or Industrial metal

[Rutherford The Brave]

The Sword and Racer X. Only good metal bands

[Magus]

Which stole its Name from Racer X and then lost thousands to Paul Gilbert...

Yeah, and I stole my name from FF-X; Whence Dreamer-X name came from.

Man, it is like you are saying Mushroomhead stole the Mask Idea from Slipknot. But Mudvayne didn't stole the Idea.

In metal, I hate Black Metal in all of its forms, it is just a badly tweaked Death Metal.

+
The vocalist name is Wayne Static. What's the problem in adding an X?

And Yeah, cult of Static is mine :lol:

[ShatteredWings]

But one thing that made Nu-Metal a fail.

"Stage Play" Disturbed, Linkin Park, Slipknot and even Korn. That's what I hate in them is they cannot play live concerts properly.

Since when does Linkin Park qualify as nu metal.
Actually.. since when do they fall into metal in the first place?

[Magus]

;817320']Since when does Linkin Park qualify as nu metal.
Actually.. since when do they fall into metal in the first place?

They are Rock+Pop Hip Hop/Rap. But many did add them in Nu-Metal but not metal it self. But many critiques and fans did added them in the genre i.e Nu-Metal.

Also, Queen of the Damn (sound track) is my favorite CD evah! Features my fave bands Vocalists :P

Also, who Agrees that Davis, Bennington and Manson have almost the same voice with different tones?

[Rutherford The Brave]

Yeah, and I stole my name from FF-X; Whence Dreamer-X name came from.

Man, it is like you are saying Mushroomhead stole the Mask Idea from Slipknot. But Mudvayne didn't stole the Idea.

In metal, I hate Black Metal in all of its forms, it is just a badly tweaked Death Metal.

+
The vocalist name is Wayne Static. What's the problem in adding an X?

And Yeah, cult of Static is mine :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racer_X_(band)

http://www.myspace.com/dreamondreamerband

Notice the time difference. Also Paul Gilbert owns the rights to "Racer[-X]" empasis on the -X part. Your other point is moot.

[derkderpderp]

Lol i dont really mind,i mean it was Korn that was the band that got me into metal,and i still love them (2007-untitled album however was cruddy),but i mean it helped me progress to prog death metal like Opeth and gothic death metal like Cradle of Filth.
But its all about pessonal preference isnt it? I mean some wannabe gangster probably isnt going to like death metal,just like how a metalhead probably isnt going to like gangster rap.lol!(funny thought popped into my head-
Imagine a black metal band like Dimmu Borgir doing a cover of idk a snoop dogg song,eek sorry im a bit high on Smarties)but my views still stand.lol.

[overcome.]

I'm a big fan of nu-metal. I used to be a huge Korn fan, not so much now, but I do like them still quite a bit. Mainly now, it's Linkin Park for me, I love their music. I like Slipknots older stuff, but not as much as I did, same with Disturbed.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Am I the only one that Likes Linkin Park when It wasnt nu metal?

[INFERNO]

I tried but gave up on this whole "this genre sucks, that one rocks" stuff because there tends to be such variability within each genre, it's hard to know just what one is talking about, added to the fact that some bands fit in multiple genres. To avoid the chaos I just talk about bands and not the genre. So Slipknot: good band, not a fan of all their songs, I used to like them more but my liking died down. They seem to have lost their edge that they used to have had and you can easily hear that there's not really that anger and self-hatred in their music, which is really what got them going (ignoring the masks). Disturbed: pretty good band, sound very good live and fun to listen to. Linkin Park: Old album (Hybrid Theory) I liked, after that they changed and I didn't care for them anymore. Korn: some songs I like, many I'd rather listen to something else. SOAD: They're a pretty good band, some songs are just plain weird and seem to be in a whole other universe but ignoring those, they're a pretty good band.

Some of the "nu-metal" and other stuff may not be original but then again, with all the previous bands and songs out there, chances are any new random rock/metal song won't be entirely original if you compare it with other songs.

So, would I say "nu-metal" sucks? No. Would I say any genre sucks? No. I'd say certain artists or bands aren't that great or even suck but they shouldn't be representative of the entire genre and smear the entire genre.

[Magus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racer_X_(band)

http://www.myspace.com/dreamondreamerband

Notice the time difference. Also Paul Gilbert owns the rights to "Racer[-X]" empasis on the -X part. Your other point is moot.

What's the connection between the two bands?

And no where it states that Paul Gilbert owns [-X] thing.

CLICK ME (http://www.google.com.kw/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-GBKW366KW366&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=wayne+static+and+Paul+gilbert) << Last result.

Doesn't matter now. Static X still have his name intact.
Now what? Now Paul Gilbert sue me for copyright breach for having an -X?

OHh Yeah! Dreamer-X! That's me baby!! << Out of topic :P

[Hatsune Miku]

What's the connection between the two bands?

And no where it states that Paul Gilbert owns [-X] thing.

CLICK ME (http://www.google.com.kw/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-GBKW366KW366&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=wayne+static+and+Paul+gilbert) << Last result.

Doesn't matter now. Static X still have his name intact.
Now what? Now Paul Gilbert sue me for copyright breach for having an -X?

OHh Yeah! Dreamer-X! That's me baby!! << Out of topic :P

Who cares who stole whos name. My name has "zelda" in it. I stole it from Nintendo. Whoopity Doo

How come nobody is arguing about Hollywood Undead and Slipknots masks?

[Rutherford The Brave]

What's the connection between the two bands?

And no where it states that Paul Gilbert owns [-X] thing.

CLICK ME (http://www.google.com.kw/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-GBKW366KW366&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=wayne+static+and+Paul+gilbert) << Last result.

Doesn't matter now. Static X still have his name intact.
Now what? Now Paul Gilbert sue me for copyright breach for having an -X?

OHh Yeah! Dreamer-X! That's me baby!! << Out of topic :P

*facepalm* He owns the right to the band name. Not the name in general. Thats where the issue lies, no one cares what your user name is.

[Magus]

Who cares who stole whos name. My name has "zelda" in it. I stole it from Nintendo. Whoopity Doo

How come nobody is arguing about Hollywood Undead and Slipknots masks?

Hollywood Undead?

I would argue on the case of Mushroomhead from the Attacks done by Slipknot fans.

Because of the mask Idea. There been a quite a feud between the two bands.

MushroomHead
http://www.mushroomheadxx.20megsfree.com/images/untitled04341.jpg

Slipknot
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2541/slipknot2008newmasksgx4.jpg

It was like "Pyramid Head" of Silent Hill vs. "Nemesis" of Resident Evil.

*facepalm* He owns the right to the band name. Not the name in general. Thats where the issue lies, no one cares what your user name is.

Woah! He owns "Dreamer" and "X"!! :eek:

Ok, don't worry. One day I will understand what you are conveying. Hope for that day. Just kidding :P

[INFERNO]

How come nobody is arguing about Hollywood Undead and Slipknots masks?

Sorry but I'm drawing a blank as to what you're getting at. Slipknot and Mushroomhead were not the first bands to use masks (Kiss wasn't either even if you consider paint to be masks). The Residents in 1966 were using masks in their performances, long before some of the Slipknot band members were even born but I'm sure other masked bands outdated The Residents. If you mean similarity, well there's Gwar with their costumes and such, KISS, which some of the Slipknot masks seem to idolize, the obvious issues with Mushroomhead (which the lawsuits have been dropped for some time already), the one you mentioned of Hollywood Undead, and so forth, so I'm confused as to what it is you're getting at because if one is to argue about Slipknot masks vs. Hollywood Undead or Mushroomhead, might as well argue about the much older bands that wore masks but even then, what is your argument? They wore masks? So what, as far as I know there was no patent on the masks that was broken.

[Magus]

Also mushroomhead changed the vocalists as well as the costume and the mask with each different timeline of Albums.

The band members are same with the exception of the vocalists . The first was Jefferey and the second by 04 is Waylon.

And is GWAR = Lordi?

Hey! We are talking about Nu-Metal and not Shock Rock here....

[Dan_UK]

Also mushroomhead changed the vocalists as well as the costume and the mask with each different timeline of Albums.

The band members are same with the exception of the vocalists . The first was Jefferey and the second by 04 is Waylon.

And is GWAR = Lordi?

Hey! We are talking about Nu-Metal and not Shock Rock here....


GWAR are VERY different to Lordi, I will explain if you're desparate to know, but they are


One of the reasons why nu-metal as a genre is hated i because of it's origin. Korn were just forming at the downturn of heavy metal, and had a vaguely similar style, yet they badmouthed metal all they could to help themselves rise as "founders of a new genre" when they were actually just ripping off the metal genre, and calling it nu-metal. Personally I dislike most nu-metal other than disturbed or System of a Down, although both of their genres are debatable. Another hated nu-metal band is Slipknot, mainly because they act as if they aremuch heavier than they are, and Corey has once pronounced them "the heaviest band ever," annoying countless metal fans.

The genre music wise = okish
The genre personality wise = pieces of Shite

[TheFame]

Wtf Linkin Park isint Nu-Metal

Um i feel insulted because My #1 Fave Band is Nu metal

SYSTEM OF A DOWN!!

[INFERNO]

One of the reasons why nu-metal as a genre is hated i because of it's origin. Korn were just forming at the downturn of heavy metal, and had a vaguely similar style, yet they badmouthed metal all they could to help themselves rise as "founders of a new genre" when they were actually just ripping off the metal genre, and calling it nu-metal. Personally I dislike most nu-metal other than disturbed or System of a Down, although both of their genres are debatable. Another hated nu-metal band is Slipknot, mainly because they act as if they aremuch heavier than they are, and Corey has once pronounced them "the heaviest band ever," annoying countless metal fans.


So many bands proclaim they're the best or the hardest band ever. KISS's bassist Gene Simmons did countless times in saying they're the heaviest, best and so forth metal band in the world during the School of Rock TV series (or whatever the exact name was, where he went to go to England and transform a class of high-class kids into a rock/metal band). It's just talk and it annoys other competing bands but it's business.

You seem to be pretty knowledgable in music genres, which is one place where I'm not, and so what makes a band considered to be nu-metal as opposed to rock or other forms of metal? When I listen to Korn there are some unique songs and such but what exactly is it that makes them and other appropriate bands deemed nu-metal?

[DoveGreySands]

Wtf Linkin Park isint Nu-Metal

Um i feel insulted because My #1 Fave Band is Nu metal

SYSTEM OF A DOWN!!


Maybe not now, but it was.

[Magus]

Maybe not now, but it was.

True, on their first two albums, it was a Nu-Metal and alternative.
In Mesmerize and Hypnotize, it became Psy-Metal and Prog-Metal instead.

I think the band is disbanded and Serji went Solo.

And David Draiman(Voc of Disturbed) called Slipknots music as "Heavy" as well. Proof?

DAMN! Where is the video!!!

[deadpie]

Actually, I do have a guilty pleasure and it's a nu-metal band: Korn's first 4 albums. Mainly because I heard this music growing up, but I can't really walk away from it.
Otep's early stuff had a nu-metal feel, but she was a little bit more, serious with music.

Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Disturbed, and shitknot are just horrible music. I don't think these bands even try to make good music.

I can't take slipcock serious at all either. I have to laugh when I see those stupid masks they wear. Hardcore my ass-go listen to GG Allin and your brains will explode.