Is Music Even Any Good Anymore?

[Raptor22]

I was having an interesting discussion in another thread but I was kind of crapping it so I brought it here. Basically this is my sentiment about music, do you people agree or disagree?

None of the 12 year old Disney Channel dipshits are any good anyways. Music hasnt been any good since ~1990, once grunge hit it was pretty much over, sad times. The only decent new music nowadays is either by the old artists (like the new AC/DC album was pretty good) or country.

I wasnt born before 1990 however I do have around 300GB of music, three dozen cassettes, two dozen eight track tapes, and 20-25 LPs. 90% of those are pre-1990. New music is prefabricated industrial garbage lacking in any sort of artistic talent, period. Record companies do not produce albums with artists talent anymore, its the other way around. Disney is great at making fake celebrities that people follow for 6 months and then forget about. Then they do crack and show their crotch to people. Examples? Hillary Duff, Lindsay Lohan, who else... oh now its happening to Hannah Montana. As soon as they grow up Disney channel says fuck you, and gets some new talentless dipshit to use for a couple of years. They are very good at it.

Real musical talent (in popular music anyways) came between 1960-1990. Today you really have to search to find decent stuff... :(

I like this guys take on modern pop songs, they are garbage: http://www.cracked.com/video_17618_black-eyed-peas-have-officially-written-worst-song-ever.html

What do you all think?

[2D]

No, there is good music nowadays. It's just harder to find. I can listen to most pop stuff and appreciate it for what it is. Cotton candy. It's good, but there's not much there except sugar-coated air. I have most of my favorite music from one certain VT member that is no longer here. I can link if you want.

[DoveGreySands]

2D is absolutely spot on. I find the only music I tend to like is almost hidden from public - no one i know seems to know them unless I make them listen to the band! I think the only pop music I like is miley cyrus, that's it. The pop charts are full of garbage to me. I hate to sound like a hippy but it seems that the only music that makes it nowadays is the music people are made to listen to as they're the only ones on TV and the only ones their friends listen to. We have to make a stand!

[deadpie]

Of course music your not going to find that much good mainstream music online. You've got to dig deeper. Sites like last.fm can find you some real good bands you've never herd of. Music has always been alive.

[Sugaree]

There is still good music, but you have to know where to look. I, personally, like Jay-Z and his new album and a bit of Lady GaGa on the rare occasion. I think that to get the really good stuff - mainly bands like Primal Fear and Gorillaz - you really got to dig deep. It's hard, but worth it in the long run. People these days just seem to not care. Whatever is popular is good, no matter how bad it sounds. That's exactly what pop music is...it's popular. I'm not as critical of the current music tastes today as I was say two or three years ago. You just have to know where to look and what to search up. You'll find really good artists out there, even some who you might like.

If you were to look on my current music libraries, the youngest (in terms of years) album on there is D-Sides by Gorillaz. The oldest being almost 40 years old (Trespass by Genesis). So you see, I like the old artists, but I do like more current artists. I mean, the only "current" artist I have in my library is Nirvana. I don't think you should be so critical of today's music, but rather try to get past all the glitter and find the really good stuff. Do that and I guarantee you'll change your opinion.

Each generation has its own music: My grandmother grew up during the height of the jazz/big band era, my mother and her sister grew up during the classic rock era, and we're all growing up in the era of pop. But I still like to take myself down through the 70s and 80s and just immerse myself in it all. Why? It's the music I grew up with and it's music that dozens are keeping alive. So music of any generation will never die, but simply grow.

[The Batman]

There is good music these days it's just a matter of personal preference. If they were truly as horrible as you guys think they are then these people wouldn't be making millions.

[Sugaree]

There is good music these days it's just a matter of personal preference. If they were truly as horrible as you guys think they are then these people wouldn't be making millions.

They make millions because of advertisement by their record company which causes people to buy the albums. Does that make them a better or more talented artist JUST because they get more money?

[The Batman]

They make millions because of advertisement by their record company which causes people to buy the albums. Does that make them a better or more talented artist JUST because they get more money?

Advertisement would make them lose money since that costs. But them making millions is showing that there are a lot of people who do like their music enough to buy it. Like I said it's just a matter of personal preference.

[Aves]

None of the 12 year old Disney Channel dipshits are any good anyways. Music hasnt been any good since ~1990, once grunge hit it was pretty much over, sad times. The only decent new music nowadays is either by the old artists (like the new AC/DC album was pretty good) or country.

Once grunge hit? D:< Nirvana was a great band. Once Nirvana was gone, I notice no more great music has arisen.

[payto]

mainstream music has become a popularity contest rather than music that can bring people together. i love the feeling when you find a good band that isn't mainstream and never fail to disappoint you. i usually look overseas for music.

[deadpie]

None of the 12 year old Disney Channel dipshits are any good anyways. Music hasnt been any good since ~1990, once grunge hit it was pretty much over, sad times. The only decent new music nowadays is either by the old artists (like the new AC/DC album was pretty good) or country.


Yeah, because nobody liked grunge apparently. That's why it was played on the radio so much.
What-the-fuck-ever.

[Sugaree]

Advertisement would make them lose money since that costs...

Yeah, it costs the record company. The artists has no control on how the record company advertises him/her. I do, however, agree with you that the more money they make (based off album sales), the more people like the music.

Once grunge hit? D:< Nirvana was a great band. Once Nirvana was gone, I notice no more great music has arisen.

As good as Nirvana was, there were great groups after them: Foo Fighters (which Grohl started), Porcupine Tree, Muse, Gorillaz...there is always another great music group/artist to arise after another. Just gotta keep tips.

None of the 12 year old Disney Channel dipshits are any good anyways. Music hasnt been any good since ~1990, once grunge hit it was pretty much over, sad times. The only decent new music nowadays is either by the old artists (like the new AC/DC album was pretty good) or country.

Wow, took you long enough to realize that the shit Disney puts out is bad? Thanks for informing us yet again, like we don't all already know? They're trying to appeal to a certain age group...obviously you aren't in that group so why not just ignore it and move on...?

Grunge was a popular genre and still is thanks to bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Grunge was played everywhere, 24/7, 365...yeah it was never popular. Grunge was, once again, a new type of music for a new generation. This is something you can not deny.

The old artists are dried up, INCLUDING AC/DC! As much as I love the band, the new album was mediocre at best and I'm not looking forward to this new soundtrack to Iron Man 2 that they have been commissioned to do. They're too old to be running anymore with the younger generation, even though their music is still in high demand. Old artists barely make any new music...but then again, Ozzy Osbourne is releasing a new album this year so there might be hope.

Country has been bad for a while now. I still like the classics: Cash, Williams, Nelson...the good ones. Country now is incorporating more rock than it is true country. True country is the material from the 50s and 60s man.

[Perseus]

Of course music your not going to find that much good mainstream music online. You've got to dig deeper. Sites like last.fm can find you some real good bands you've never herd of. Music has always been alive.

Yes, Last.fm I've heard cool bands on.

But anyway, is the music industry good anymore? Yes and no. I like a lot of modern bands that aren't super popular, because they're good live unlike most bands today. But my heart still remains in the 80s, and my favorite band still releases albums during the 2000's with a new album coming out this year; they've been around since 1976.

Some pop is good, most isn't, though. But pop all sounds the same, though.

And psh, Grunge, who likes Grunge? :P

[Rutherford The Brave]

Alot of people enjoy grunge, porcupine tree is not grunge however they are prog. It all comes down to what you like, I enjoy muse, porcupine tree, and band of horses all three of them create fantastic music.

[badash]

Its all starting to sound the same and people are using other peoples beats and lyrics and even remaking older songs.

[Aves]

As good as Nirvana was, there were great groups after them: Foo Fighters (which Grohl started), Porcupine Tree, Muse, Gorillaz...there is always another great music group/artist to arise after another. Just gotta keep tips.

*facepalm* I was just defending Nirvana since they were Grunge XD I somewhat blanked on Foo Fighters, Muse, Gorillaz, and a ton of other groups.

[Sugaree]

*facepalm* I was just defending Nirvana since they were Grunge XD I somewhat blanked on Foo Fighters, Muse, Gorillaz, and a ton of other groups.

Yes, I know you were defending them as I was too, but you kind of ignored that there have indeed been great fans ever since Nirvana broke up. Just sayin'.

[2D]

I'm correcting my original post. I came off too negative for my tastes. So here's my revision.


No, there is good music nowadays. It's just harder to find. I can listen to most pop stuff and appreciate it for what it is. Cotton candy. It's good, but there's not much there except sugar-coated air. As we all know, cotton candy is fucking delicious, as is mainstream music. Just not a lot at one time. I have most of my favorite music from one certain VT member that is no longer here. I can link if you want.

[Magus]

I listen to old songs not caring how the new music is developing.

I prefer progressive and symphonic Metal +Disturbed :D
I listen all types of music, including rap; but rap lost its prime back in the early 90's.

Techno or all type of electronic music such as rave, house, underground, demo and trance never lost its taste till today. But it is more enhanced with the new technological materials that can be used.

[Sugaree]

but rap lost its prime back in the early 90's.

Rap was at an all time high in popularity in the 90s, especially early 90s (90-95). It went dead around the time of 1997 I think. Old rappers like Ice-T, Snoop Dogg, and all the other classic just really went out of style. But Snoop Dogg is still working...he's featured on the new Gorillaz album "Plastic Beach" and does a great job.

[Mzor203]

You know, I've never actually had to worry about this because all I listen to is Muse, all I have listened to for the past 3 years is Muse.

Well not entirely. I've found that it's really best to pick and choose... the older rock stuff really just doesn't appeal to me, I'm very picky when it comes to any music made after 1900.

I've found really not many bands appeal to me on the whole, but there are certain songs which I just like for whatever reason. Break by Three Days Grace, for example, I just find nice for whatever reason, but their other songs don't really do it for me.

Music really becomes more background music for me, so I don't really see the need to find every piece of good music in the world. I get my playlist really solid, familiar, and I play it when I need some background music.

Remember that there really is enough music out there to last you a lifetime... it doesn't matter what anyone's doing today, there are literally millions of songs out there, there's gotta be some you like.

[pageplant77]

Not ALL music nowadays is bad, some artists out there today are pretty good, but of course, none of them compare to the greats like Led Zep, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Doors, Jimmy Hendrix and so on and so forth.

[deadpie]

Not ALL music nowadays is bad, some artists out there today are pretty good, but of course, none of them compare to the greats like Led Zep, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Doors, Jimmy Hendrix and so on and so forth.

Why not?

[pageplant77]

Why not?

Because they really aren't as creative with their music as the ones I listed before were

[Raptor22]

Because they really aren't as creative with their music as the ones I listed before were

Yeah see, thats pretty much all I listen to however I have gotten into more 60s folk music, prog rock, and some really out there shit. :P

[littlerascal]

Music is still as creative as it was in the days of the artists you listed...the style just doesn't appeal to you.

Take Fireflies by Owl City for example...as much as I hate the song, I've just got to love it. Technology is making music more and more creative all the time.

Grunge...is amazing...I love it...however it's been blamed for killing heavy metal, which is true, I suppose...at least in the mainstream. Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Bush, Melvins, Helmet, even Nirvana....just a great sound. Eddie Vedder is a genius. Other grunge bands do kind of annoy me...such as Alice in Chains...

Metal...Does true metal even exist anymore? There are very few bands with face melting guitar solos anymore...it all just seemed to die. Why aren't metal bands more mainstream? Well...they are more mainstream in Canada and the UK, I guess...but nobody knows good metal bands in America. I love Edguy, Dream Evil, Manowar, Hammerfall, and even Blind Guardian...half of the Americans here have probably never even heard of these bands. There's also In Flames, Turisas, Alestorm, Amon Amarth, etc...I think they are metal as well.

Country...I like it...but it's obviously changed. Besides the legends, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, Waylon Jennings, Kris Kristopherson, Merle Hagaard, Conway Twitty, Keith Whitley...the only other people who will really fall into history in my opinion will be Garth Brooks, George Strait, and Tim McGraw. Nobody else really compares.

Other than that...I like mainstream music...it's not all crap. Seether, Staind, Breaking Benjamin, Rise Against, Chevelle...they are all great bands.

Also...I don't see everyone's appeal for Nickelback and Disturbed...Nickelback has a couple of good songs, but otherwise, they're just a group of giant fuckin douche bags who are extremely overpaid. I like Disturbed, but good God...every single song is exactly the fuckin same! Prayer and Darkness are the only ones that are somewhat different.

[2D]

Metal...Does true metal even exist anymore? There are very few bands with face melting guitar solos anymore...it all just seemed to die. Why aren't metal bands more mainstream? Well...they are more mainstream in Canada and the UK, I guess...but nobody knows good metal bands in America. I love Edguy, Dream Evil, Manowar, Hammerfall, and even Blind Guardian...half of the Americans here have probably never even heard of these bands. There's also In Flames, Turisas, Alestorm, Amon Amarth, etc...I think they are metal as well.

I actually only know the ones that you said most Americans wouldn't know. xD

Other than that...I like mainstream music...it's not all crap. Seether, Staind, Breaking Benjamin, Rise Against, Chevelle...they are all great bands.

Well, not great. But certainly better than average.

Also...I don't see everyone's appeal for Nickelback and Disturbed...Nickelback has a couple of good songs, but otherwise, they're just a group of giant fuckin douche bags who are extremely overpaid. I like Disturbed, but good God...every single song is exactly the fuckin same! Prayer and Darkness are the only ones that are somewhat different.

What's wrong with their music though? Disregard your personal feelings for the members.

[littlerascal]

I actually only know the ones that you said most Americans wouldn't know. xD



Well, not great. But certainly better than average.



What's wrong with their music though? Disregard your personal feelings for the members.

Nickelback? I just don't like how they sound...I like Burn it to the Ground and Control (or whatever the name of it is)...otherwise, it's all pretty samey...

[2D]

Nickelback? I just don't like how they sound...I like Burn it to the Ground and Control (or whatever the name of it is)...otherwise, it's all pretty samey...

Fair enough. I just don't like it when people hate music simply because it's popular or played a lot.

[Kitty Purry]

Yes there is good music still...... its all just the persons taste, or opinion. I'm into mainstream music so there is always good music for me, but if youu dont like that kind of music it may be harder to find music that fits your taste

[Ryhanna]

Theres good music everywhere, it's just a matter of how picky you are with music. FOr example, I like just about everything if it has a nice flow, lyrics and beat. Hence why I adore Lady Gaga :P

[Magus]

I like Disturbed, but good God...every single song is exactly the fuckin same! Prayer and Darkness are the only ones that are somewhat different.

There aren't, actually most of the songs are different from one another.

Each song as its own essence of in depth.

Let us take the first album. Sickness, I agree it resembles the 3rd album 10K Fist.

But the album Believe and Indestructible are completely different with each of them are.

Let us look in Inside the fire, he talks about suicide which he experienced when he was a small. A 16 year old girlfriend committed suicide. Also talks about his religious Idea "Devon, She will never go to heaven" Obviously, it is the case when a person commit a suicide.

Stupify for an Instance, he talks about the constrained mind the child has. In other sense, child abuse. "Narrow scope of reality"

Prayer is self explanatory. Talks about the life people doing, while they are doing sins, they feel its pain and how life would turned and their child hood memories. At the end of the video, it appears what it shows the Doomsday.


Land of Confusion is a tweaked land of confusion made by Genesis.
Talks about the corrupted leaders, doing nothing but confusion in the land.

There are many songs, not only from video but from their music we can understand.

Take Haunted

"Never will I be welcomed
Amongst the heartless monsters you surround yourself with
Feeding off the pain and misfortune of others" Is it same as Sickened?



Darkness is one rare diamond.


These are intellectual lyrics from a master degreed in Philosophy. What do you expect?

You are talking to a Disturbed fan here.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx144/deadlydreamerx/Untitled.png

[littlerascal]

There aren't, actually most of the songs are different from one another.

Each song as its own essence of in depth.

Let us take the first album. Sickness, I agree it resembles the 3rd album 10K Fist.

But the album Believe and Indestructible are completely different with each of them are.

Let us look in Inside the fire, he talks about suicide which he experienced when he was a small. A 16 year old girlfriend committed suicide. Also talks about his religious Idea "Devon, She will never go to heaven" Obviously, it is the case when a person commit a suicide.

Stupify for an Instance, he talks about the constrained mind the child has. In other sense, child abuse. "Narrow scope of reality"

Prayer is self explanatory. Talks about the life people doing, while they are doing sins, they feel its pain and how life would turned and their child hood memories. At the end of the video, it appears what it shows the Doomsday.


Land of Confusion is a tweaked land of confusion made by Genesis.
Talks about the corrupted leaders, doing nothing but confusion in the land.

There are many songs, not only from video but from their music we can understand.

Take Haunted

"Never will I be welcomed
Amongst the heartless monsters you surround yourself with
Feeding off the pain and misfortune of others" Is it same as Sickened?



Darkness is one rare diamond.


These are intellectual lyrics from a master degreed in Philosophy. What do you expect?

You are talking to a Disturbed fan here.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx144/deadlydreamerx/Untitled.png

I wasn't talking about the lyrics. All of the music sounds exactly the same...they need to change up the rhythm and chord progressions a little more. Don't get me wrong, I like Disturbed...they make great music...the only problem is they don't change it up. Music is not only lyrics...believe me...I'm a music major...they could do a hell of a lot more with their harmony and rhythms.

[Evermore]

Am I the only one who likes modern music?

[deadpie]

Music is still as creative as it was in the days of the artists you listed...the style just doesn't appeal to you.

Take Fireflies by Owl City for example...as much as I hate the song, I've just got to love it. Technology is making music more and more creative all the time.



That's like saying I hate the jonas brothers but because they're popular i should like it anyways. All because music might be getting more creative, doesn't mean you should like a certain band that you hate. I mean, i don't even know what your trying to say in your post. Is this some fucking oxymoron?



Yeah see, thats pretty much all I listen to however I have gotten into more 60s folk music, prog rock, and some really out there shit. :P

Progressive music is still alive dude. And it's fucking amazing.

[xaydavis]

Idk i agree and disagree there was some definetly good music back in the 90's and up but some musc is good 2day

[Commander Thor]

Idk i agree and disagree there was some definetly good music back in the 90's and up but some musc is good 2day

Please don't bump old threads.
This one is over 2 years old.

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