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Death
February 15th, 2010, 06:02 AM
To those who have played both games, I have a question. Out of Call of Duty, Modern Warfare's prequal and sequal, which do you think was better and why?

Kaius
February 15th, 2010, 06:24 AM
Tbh, although their both good games I prefer MW2 cause you can do a lot more in that, which you couldnt do in the first one.

mrmcdonaldduck
February 15th, 2010, 06:36 AM
cod4 was better because of less campers.

Obscene Eyedeas
February 15th, 2010, 07:37 AM
Mw2 for the same reason

Cloud
February 15th, 2010, 08:25 AM
MW2
for some reason the second storyline seemed alot better
i enjoyed playing the campaign more
and spec ops is really fun to do when you cant be arsed with multiplayer
and theres so much more stuff in multiplayer

Death
February 15th, 2010, 08:41 AM
For myself, this is a difficult decision. I liked CoD4 because some of the areas and events compelled me, such as Chernobyl and the missile launching missions. But MW2 seemed to have a variety of interesting areas including a snowy mountain base (which I managed to do the first part of undetected without killing anyone once I was away from my ally) and what seemed to be a desert. The ending sequence was interesting, but a bit cliched, since it seemed to be very similar to that of the prequel.

If I had to choose between them, I'd probably go for CoD4 (only just), but the decision is very tough.

JackOfClubs
February 15th, 2010, 09:16 AM
I preferred MW2. I think the campaign was better and more exciting. I much preferred the online maps of MW1 though, most of the new ones suck.

Perseus
February 15th, 2010, 09:54 AM
MW1 had a better story line and better maps online. So naturally, MW1. MW2 is just cancer that needs to die.

Botchy
February 15th, 2010, 10:54 AM
Mw1 was amazing,fresh and simple. mw2 is just a money maker

Bluearmy
February 15th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Both of the games are pretty much the same. Same controls, platform, and basic storyline. MW2 had a bit more balls in the story with the airport mission, and the fact that they made actual nations fight each other, instead of just random organizations that nobody cares about.

They should start making some form of Taliban zombies or something..

Death
February 16th, 2010, 04:40 AM
Thanks for your opinions thus far. Something about MW2 that I like which I haven't mentioned is actually driving in the game, although it's a bit limited (not like driving in Halo). But CoD4 seemed to be more interesting with the story to me - like it's more epic. And yes, I think MP was a lot better on Cod4; less glitches (in my experience) and nicer maps.

Giles
February 16th, 2010, 09:17 AM
It might shock you, but it's really close for me.
I'm still going to have to go for mw2 though - The campaign is better, there is so much more to do in multiplayer (Even if there is way too many campers and way overpowered shot guns). Not mentioning the unlocks.

Apparitions
February 16th, 2010, 12:17 PM
MW1. Much better campaign (every single mission was memorable. Can MW2 say this with its cliched storyline and boring missions?), it had the MP5, G36C, M40A3, the Minimi, the G3, loads of guns that are better than MW2s samey guns, it doesn't have Bling Rangers/Model 18somethingthatIforgot, it was so epic, it felt fresh, it had a better HUD, the Multiplayer was better in every way, more balanced guns, harder campaign so it felt a lot better when you completed it and most importantly it felt fresh, innovative, exciting. I got at least 15 days on COD4 MP compared to 15ish hours on MW2. Should I go on? The only thing MW2 beats COD4 at is graphics. I want to play MW1 now.

Cats In Space
February 16th, 2010, 02:20 PM
Call of Duty 4. The storyline actually made sense and wasn't fueled like a non-stop action movie. The multiplayer was balanced because not everyone camped for 7 kills, for harriers, then automatically got an AC-130.

Perseus
February 16th, 2010, 04:21 PM
It might shock you, but it's really close for me.
I'm still going to have to go for mw2 though - The campaign is better, there is so much more to do in multiplayer (Even if there is way too many campers and way overpowered shot guns). Not mentioning the unlocks.

Dude, the perks are pretty much the same from the first one, and the only real new weapons were the side arms, which is still dumb; no one has a a shotgun as a secondary weapon in real life. Sure, some things were new like Full Metal Jacket and akimbo, but not many were new.

Cloud
February 16th, 2010, 04:28 PM
Dude, the perks are pretty much the same from the first one, and the only real new weapons were the side arms, which is still dumb; no one has a a shotgun as a secondary weapon in real life. Sure, some things were new like Full Metal Jacket and akimbo, but not many were new.

they might have shotguns
i doubt there gonna plunge someone into a warzone with just a shotgun...
and the perks arent the same
some are
some are old ones with extras added
but some are completely new

Shadowhunter
February 17th, 2010, 06:16 AM
MW2 all the way

Death
February 17th, 2010, 06:23 AM
MW1. Much better campaign (every single mission was memorable.

That's how I felt. I always believed that we had a solid purpose for everything we were doing wheras in MW2, it seemed more random (I didn't always know what was going on).

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 07:14 PM
they might have shotguns
i doubt there gonna plunge someone into a warzone with just a shotgun...
and the perks arent the same
some are
some are old ones with extras added
but some are completely new

Uhm, actually, some people in some units only carry a shotgun and pistol.
No sniper in real life though carries around dual shotguns or machine guns bro.

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 07:15 PM
Uhm, actually, some people in some units only carry a shotgun and pistol.
No sniper in real life though carries around dual shotguns or machine guns bro.

never said they did
but also alot of units have shotguns along with assault rifles

anyway its a game
no ones complained about 7ft super soldiers running around with aliens being unrealistic

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 07:18 PM
never said they did
but also alot of units have shotguns along with assault rifles

anyway its a game
no ones complained about 7ft super soldiers running around with aliens being unrealistic

It's a game that aims to have a some-what realistic war feeling. Halo is never being made fun of for not being realistic because it's not supposed to. Although, if someone made a Call of Duty game with Aliens VS Super Soldiers, people would say, "Oh wow, this is so stupid and doesn't make sense." Just like how if people made a First Person Shooter Sims game.

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 07:23 PM
It's a game that aims to have a some-what realistic war feeling.

somewhat
not entirely
its a game
its designed to entertain
not capture the truth of war cos if it did
it would be fucking shite
how many wars have you seen with capture the flag game type
as you said
the campaigns the part thats meant to resemble the more realistic
the multiplayers whatever people want to do
cos snipers also dont o round quick scoping and no scoping people with armour piercing weapons

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 07:25 PM
somewhat
not entirely
its a game
its designed to entertain
not capture the truth of war cos if it did
it would be fucking shite
how many wars have you seen with capture the flag game type
as you said
the campaigns the part thats meant to resemble the more realistic
the multiplayers whatever people want to do
cos snipers also dont o round quick scoping and no scoping people with armour piercing weapons

Not all games are made to have entertainment. I forgot what the game was called but it was for training in the US Army. Real soldiers use it to train for combat.

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 07:26 PM
Not all games are made to have entertainment. I forgot what the game was called but it was for training in the US Army. Real soldiers use it to train for combat.

and where on the call of duty box does it say
USE THIS FOR TRAINING YOUR ARMY
and also where doesit say this game is exactly like reality base all your judgements of war on this game and vise versa

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 07:29 PM
The highly anticipated release of console game ‘Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2′ has met with criticism from Army officials for its unrealistic portrayal of life as a poorly-equipped British soldier.

The game, released today by Activision, depicts armed forces that are both well-trained and sufficiently well-equipped for the challenges they face.

“It’s pure fantasy. The soldiers in this game are so well equipped it’s almost laughable,” said an MOD spokesperson.

“In my twenty years service I’ve never been involved in a mission like those in this game, in which every soldier is so well trained - and with each soldier given every conceivable piece equipment needed to not only complete their mission, but survive an enemy onslaught.”

“Where are the poorly-prepared territorial troops? Where is the scribbled crayon letter from the Prime Minister when you lose a life?”

“Where is the level where they go to Afghanistan for six months because the Prime Minister agreed to give Al Qaeda some more target practise?”

Constructive criticism

Former soldiers have said they would willingly assist in future developments to ensure the next game more closely mirrors life in the British Armed Forces.

“It’s pretty easy really,” said one retired officer.

“Each mission should begin with an officer rifling through reams of red tape to try and requisition enough safety equipment to keep his men alive during the operation.”

“Then at least one vehicle should break down, and the soldiers should then have to walk for hours upon hours because there aren’t enough helicopters to get them from A to B.”

“It might not make great game play, but at least it’d be realistic.”


lolwut

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 07:35 PM
1) MW2 is the US rangers and task force 141, not the British army
and even if they were relating to MW1 it was SAS which is anti terror and not regular army
2)lulwut who gives a shit if its unrealistic
who the fuck would buy a game thats depressing and makes you go suicidal?
3) fail argument

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 07:36 PM
1) MW2 is the US rangers and task force 141, not the British army
and even if they were relating to MW1 it was SAS which is anti terror and not regular army
2)lulwut who gives a shit if its unrealistic
who the fuck would buy a game thats depressing and makes you go suicidal?
3) fail argument


1. Task Force 141 has British soldiers in it.
2. Apparently a few retired vets. Heavy Rain is coming out, which is supposed to be deep and depressing. Indigo Prophecy came out before which is just like Heavy Rain.
3. Umadbro?

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 07:40 PM
1) if you played both games
youd know tf141 is made of SAS soldiers
SAS is not territorial army
2) heavy rain has a playability factor tho
a game where you have one life and once you die you cant ever touch again would be shite
3)not at all are you

games=fun not realism
they may contain a hint of realism
but anything that has a multiplayer which consists of choices in how to play will be in no way the same as a real warzone
kids have imaginations
tey get expressed through games
they cant get expressed in war

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 07:47 PM
1) if you played both games
youd know tf141 is made of SAS soldiers
SAS is not territorial army
2) heavy rain has a playability factor tho
a game where you have one life and once you die you cant ever touch again would be shite
3)not at all are you

games=fun not realism
they may contain a hint of realism
but anything that has a multiplayer which consists of choices in how to play will be in no way the same as a real warzone
kids have imaginations
tey get expressed through games
they cant get expressed in war

1. I think the soldiers apply to all soldiers in all armies. The US Rangers are just like the soldiers who did that interview. In real war you do walk a lot, you do have a lot of misfortunes is what I'm trying to get across.

2. So? A game where you only had one life would be a challenge. To be honest, I don't know what you mean by only "1 Life." A video game should always no matter what have a re-playability factor in it. If you die, you should be able to start the level over or become a different soldier.

3. The last part you say 'kids.' Video games aren't always directed at 'kids.' So saying that only kids use the games to express their self is incorrect.

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 07:53 PM
1)the soldiers dont apply to all soldiers
they apply to a certain branch
because of the fact it would suck palying as certain ones
and its the US army
the interview was the UK army
and they do walk alot
2)exactly you need the respawn factor to make it entertaining
which is a game feature
not a real war feature
nice contradiction
3)
its an 18 yes
but theres still tonnes of 13 year olds and under playing
i once played battlefield bad company online and ther was some army guy in there and he was like woah man im staying back im low on health and i was like
how boring that must be
taking games to seriously suucks
thats why its so fun to quick scope and no scope or run around tac knifing everyone
because you cant actaully do it
it adds to the fun
if mw2 was like real warfare
then i can pretty mcuh assure you that the players online playing it now would be like 9

scuba steve
February 17th, 2010, 07:55 PM
i thought the continued story for MW2 was alot better and you honestly cant really disagree the special effects was just far more advanced and i thought the "turn the tide" fight of war being on the western door step much better than just fighting terrorists on our untouchable pedastle. the graphics could never be beaten by Mw1 i actually felt emotional fighting through Virginia.

although the maps online are much better on MW1 and i like the fact that you can actually have the AK - 47 for more than one bloody level.

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 07:58 PM
1)the soldiers dont apply to all soldiers
they apply to a certain branch
because of the fact it would suck palying as certain ones
and its the US army
the interview was the UK army
and they do walk alot
2)exactly you need the respawn factor to make it entertaining
which is a game feature
not a real war feature
nice contradiction
3)
its an 18 yes
but theres still tonnes of 13 year olds and under playing
i once played battlefield bad company online and ther was some army guy in there and he was like woah man im staying back im low on health and i was like
how boring that must be
taking games to seriously suucks
thats why its so fun to quick scope and no scope or run around tac knifing everyone
because you cant actaully do it
it adds to the fun
if mw2 was like real warfare
then i can pretty mcuh assure you that the players online playing it now would be like 9

1. Exactly. You walk around a lot, and you die quickly. Ever played Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising? Just like real war except for the respawn feature, and how well equipped they are.

2. A video game isn't a video game without a respawn feature or a playability factor, which is why everything in the game should at least try to be realistic (If the game is a realistic type of game) as it can except for that.

3. I really can't read or understand anything under 'everything' so uhm, if you sit back because you have low health is 'tactics' because you don't want to die and want to get more kills before you die. I don't see what that has to do with this conversation at all to be honest?

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 08:03 PM
1)im actually sure modern warfare 2 has a disclaimer saying that its not depicting real warfare guess why
cos it inst depicting real warfare
2) its a fictional story line
which means it can haz fiction
including military tactics and equiptment advancements
3)because it shows how different people look at games
gamers-run in guns blazing cos its fun
soldiers-take it to seriously and compare it with real war

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 08:06 PM
1)im actually sure modern warfare 2 has a disclaimer saying that its not depicting real warfare guess why
cos it inst depicting real warfare
2) its a fictional story line
which means it can haz fiction
including military tactics and equiptment advancements
3)because it shows how different people look at games
gamers-run in guns blazing cos its fun
soldiers-take it to seriously and compare it with real war

1. I don't think it has a disclaimer.

2. Operation Flashpoint had a completely fictional storyline. Although, Operation Flashpoint was a very realistic game itself. So no, if it has a fictional storyline it doesn't have to have fictional tactics.

3. All Gamers don't go in guns blazing. When I play Call of Duty 4 I sit back and snipe. If someone finds me I take out my pistol shoot at them, if that doesn't work I run.

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 08:11 PM
1)meh it probalby does on the box
2)doesnt have to
but it can
if you can
then do it
its been successful so far in selling millions of copys
3)alot do though
and im aware that alot of people like to sit back and snipe
but if youve got an smg or whatever you dont go in all tacticly doing breach and clear shit
you spam grenades and run in like a fucker

Cats In Space
February 17th, 2010, 08:13 PM
1)meh it probalby does on the box
2)doesnt have to
but it can
if you can
then do it
its been successful so far in selling millions of copys
3)alot do though
and im aware that alot of people like to sit back and snipe
but if youve got an smg or whatever you dont go in all tacticly doing breach and clear shit
you spam grenades and run in like a fucker

1 Sec bro, gotta eat dinner. Discussion starts again in 40 minutes. ><

Perseus
February 17th, 2010, 08:23 PM
2. Operation Flashpoint had a completely fictional storyline. Although, Operation Flashpoint was a very realistic game itself. So no, if it has a fictional storyline it doesn't have to have fictional tactics.



No.. in OF: DR, the medic could heal you and you'd be all better for ever, other than that, it was pretty realistic..

Trust me, I always rolled as medic because I didn't like dying on that game. XD
And also liked being like, "Where are ya? I'm a medic!" to my friends; good times, good times... *nostalgia...*

Anyway Calum, what's wrong with not dying? BC is more tactical than CoD, so him not wanting to die and wait for a medic is the smart thing...

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 08:27 PM
didnt say its bad to stay die
its pretty key in some game types to winning
im just saying it was a pretty weird moment considering how far back he was
it was fun to play with him it was just a weird hmm moment as to how seriously he was taking the game

i actualyl like playing tactically
but i know that its not gonna be militarily tactical
like ive dominated in search and destroy with my mate doing his knifing only thing
and he was doing that for fun
but no one in wars gonna do it
cos its stupid
but its fun in a game

which is what a games for
fun
not realism

Perseus
February 17th, 2010, 08:28 PM
which is what a games for
fun
not realism

True, but realism can be fun, too, if done right.

Cloud
February 17th, 2010, 08:30 PM
i know
but it shouldnt be expected

team tactical in cod 4 was an extremely fun game type when i played it with my friends cos we actually had tactics which were semi realistic
it was fun
but if we got hit by a spam grenade we didnt go in a hissy fit that no one would do that

munchausen
February 21st, 2010, 07:23 PM
MW2 even just for the jet ski

steezypeezy
February 21st, 2010, 08:51 PM
i've played both for the 360
the first one was awesome, and even though i wish they had kept more of the guns from it, MW2 is better i think

johhny64
February 21st, 2010, 10:34 PM
i hope this is a joke. modern warfare 2 is way better.

tripolar
February 22nd, 2010, 12:56 AM
This is a really tough question.

The orginal modern warfare had in my mind better graphics and some great maps, plus an excellent campaign.

Modern warfare 2 has more weapons, more maps, customizable kill streaks in 4 there was 7 kills and that was it but in MW2 there is so much more. Sniping is much improved. Titles and emblems give more customization and something to show off. And more attachments + more perks. Bling is my favorite new perk because you can have 2 attachments and that can be really good. Intervention with silencer and FMJ or a RPD with FMJ and Grip and your set.

But in Modern Warfare 2 they ruined the MP5, the campaign is great but the ending is bullshit. Throwing knives are retarded, and the claymore replaces the your grenade.

In the end i would say Modern Warfare 2 because not many people are on Cod 4, and modern warfare 2 has alot of neat and fun extras.

Giles
February 22nd, 2010, 10:30 AM
I agree with everything Calum has just said.

Ballin2much
February 24th, 2010, 07:00 PM
mw1 mw2 is nothing but some good graphics

Perseus
February 24th, 2010, 07:08 PM
mw1 mw2 is nothing but some good graphics

Nah, the graphics aren't that good compared to other games.

Death
March 1st, 2010, 11:51 AM
The CoD graphics have always looked slightly dull to me, especially in CoD4, although I do prefer the memorable storyline. Yes, MW2 might have had a few extras, but I also remember several glitches an issues (mainly with MP) as well as a storyline that didn't really satisfy me in the end.

Aves
March 1st, 2010, 03:47 PM
I have got to stick with CoD4. I played MW2 at a friends house, and I thought it was shit. Took less skill than CoD4 with the damn kill streak perks. What I look for in an online FPS is a challenge. MW2 made it too easy with all the damn extras you could have. :/

Death
March 1st, 2010, 04:59 PM
I agree. Extras do not make a game good or better.