Cloning

[Perseus]

So....
What do you think about cloning humans to use stem cells, organs, and other things?
What do you think of cloning as a whole(the kind of cloning that exists, not that fancy smancy stuff)?

I have mixed feelings, so it is quite hard for me to put it in words. Since I'd be a hypocrite saying that you shouldn't kill a cloned human, who is still pretty much the same as a regular ole human, for their stuff, but it's okay to kill a cloned animal for things. They're both alive.

[chazzrox2]

I beleive morality often gets in the way of some amazing scientific breakthroughs.

for example. Human cloning is illegal almost everywhere basically because of moral reasons, now without those boundaries there could be a fleet of test subjects and parhaps a new era in Genetic Modification which has already helped numerous industries/systems/society in general.

PCR: Polymerase Chain Reaction: The replication of DNA for testing, samples and experiments.... surely if one can replicate DNA for testing why not use this in animals, people, everything to advance society?

Ofcourse too much would propbably lead to a monoculture resulting the death of a species from complete eradication by a disease becasue of a lack of variation........ So where's the stopping line?

p.s. sorry to ask another question in an answer lol

[Perseus]

I beleive morality often gets in the way of some amazing scientific breakthroughs.

for example. Human cloning is illegal almost everywhere basically because of moral reasons, now without those boundaries there could be a fleet of test subjects and parhaps a new era in Genetic Modification which has already helped numerous industries/systems/society in general.

PCR: Polymerase Chain Reaction: The replication of DNA for testing, samples and experiments.... surely if one can replicate DNA for testing why not use this in animals, people, everything to advance society?

Ofcourse too much would propbably lead to a monoculture resulting the death of a species from complete eradication by a disease becasue of a lack of variation........ So where's the stopping line?

p.s. sorry to ask another question in an answer lol

If human cloning was legal, then there would be probally more cured diseases because no one wants to be test on, but then again, I'm pretty sure clones would be able to speak unless you do something to make them not be able to speak, like genetic engenering or something.
And it's all right htat you asked a question, lol.

[Camazotz]

Cloning is artificially creating another life form, which I am not opposed to. However, that being said, it is a life form, not a meaningless object. Killing a clone for science is totally unethical, as well is testing it in anyway that is considered inhumane. Researching the results of cloning is too early to tell of any definite effects.

[Hatsune Miku]

Well. A clone is never perfect. Especially with humans because we're so complex. So if scientists did clone for organs, stem cells ect. im sure there would be alot of mutations and faults with them. Plus, clone or not its a human. Killing the clone is still murder. I don't really know. I have mixed feelings on this. Im not really against it, but im not saying its a good thing

When it comes to cloning animals. I couldn't care less. As long as they don't clone them to breed. Because that would cause alot of mutations.

[Aves]

Stem cell research isn't necessarily bad...but when you make a child just to kill it, it's not really worth that, and I think it's wrong. Cloning....eh not to particular about

[INFERNO]

I support cloning for scientific purposes and to better society, however, if it comes to cloning just to kill right away, that is unethical even if it is a clone. I think cloning human and non-human organs is perfectly fine as it allows for more research specimens and allows for more organ transplants at a faster rate.

PCR: Polymerase Chain Reaction: The replication of DNA for testing, samples and experiments.... surely if one can replicate DNA for testing why not use this in animals, people, everything to advance society?


Animals, such as cats, mice, horse, camel, sheep and so forth have been cloned and genetically, they're identical to their "parents", so in a sense, it's successful. However, the problem with all of these has been that the cloned animal develops various problems and diseases rather fast.

PCR is not the problem. There are many but I'll just stick to one to make this a short post: mitochondrial DNA. One of the methods of cloning, which is still used today, is somatic cell nuclear transfer (i.e. Dolly the sheep). The problem with this cloning method is not all the genetic material gets transferred, such as mitochondrial DNA and so the nucleus of the clone is not going to function properly as not all of the needed components of the eukaryotic cells are present. The methods for obtaining mitochondrial DNA in the cell naturally is different than for obtaining DNA in the nucleus and although mitochrondrial DNA doesn't provide a large contribution in terms of quantity, it still is required.

[2D]

Fuck yeah!!! I want a doppelganger!!

Srsly.

I support it.

[martin2008]

science can't tell itself, people use it on different purpose.

[ltimm]

If we ever were able to clone humans, then giving them experimental drugs with a high probability of death is wrong. If somehow we were able to make it not have a nervous system and not be able to fell( but still have bodily functions), then that's okay. Stem-cells are okay by me. I think we should be using then more often. but ya know.

[Iron Man]

i believe that cloning solely for the bettering of human lifeforms is okay, as long as it isnt used for corrupt purposes

[Mattasaur94]

Religeously, Its wrong.
Morally, Its wrong.
Personally... I agree with embriotic stem-cell research, I agree with growing organs and such for helping cure a sick person.
How ever, what I don't agree with is taking a hair and re-creating a dead person or another you to make life that whole lot easier.

I think,, depending on the degree of the research/experimentation,, that it should be legal. Obama, a while back now, was pressing to allow Stem-cell research. Seriously, It could either make or break us as a morally-correct-human-society, if we're even that these days.

There are always boundries with scientific research that have to be kept.
Scientists should try and not be greedy and re-create the world via Clones... that would mean no propper-love-making... whats the fun in partying young, settling down, getting married, making love and going through the joys of child-birth (WOOT! I don't have to give birth. I r Man!). =)

[L]

Fuck yeah!!! I want a doppelganger!!

Srsly.

I support it.

agreed :D

[INFERNO]

If we ever were able to clone humans, then giving them experimental drugs with a high probability of death is wrong. If somehow we were able to make it not have a nervous system and not be able to fell( but still have bodily functions), then that's okay. Stem-cells are okay by me. I think we should be using then more often. but ya know.

If we eliminate the nervous system, then that presents some major problems. First, voluntary muscle movement is gone. Second, there is no perception, no speech and certain sensory responses are all gone.

Also, what about research on psychopharmacological agents or agents that affect issues such as pain, sleep, etc...? Neuroscience is an enormous field that is rapidly expanding and to eliminate it from research is flat-out crazy. Things such as epilepsy, doing research on what specific areas of the brain do, Parkinson's, etc... would all be thrown out the window for research with this in place.

It's like saying let's make cloned humans only if we remove the liver, kidney and heart. Pretty pointless for research, which ironically is the reason why you're cloning them.

i believe that cloning solely for the bettering of human lifeforms is okay, as long as it isnt used for corrupt purposes

What constitutes corrupt purposes? Any examples?

[Giles]

I support it in the main, as long as there is some control over the organisations that are permitted access to the information and technology need to perform it.