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Ravenous
March 24th, 2005, 03:10 PM
Ughhh, young and very dumb, ignore please.

-Silence
March 24th, 2005, 04:53 PM
Well, yeah, you know my opinion..I believe Slipknot should be on that list.

How is Incubus a 'sell out' ?

Waiting
March 24th, 2005, 10:32 PM
this thread is stupid.
just cuz a band gets popular doesnt mean they sold out
this is incredibly a ignorent thread as any band who performs for money technically are are sell outs...only underground bands who perform for love of the music arnt 'sell outs'
but the point your looking at it is not the 'technical' point because otherwise every band you listen to are most probably sell outs
and if a band ar esell outs, it doesnt make them bad

Ravenous
March 25th, 2005, 07:37 AM
Again, ignore please.

kevin
March 26th, 2005, 12:08 AM
Kids bob asked them, any advertising will help. Just a simple aspect of buisness. But I agree, I wouldn't sell my song to Kid's bop over my dead body.

Ravenous
March 26th, 2005, 07:36 AM
Ignore please.

AC/DC HaLO 2
March 26th, 2005, 01:22 PM
ppl who dont deserve a guitar:

good Charlotte
New found glory
sum41(theysold out used to be cool)
blink182
ALL OF THE "POP PUNK PPL" why this? becasue pop punk is not even punk. Punk is about Anarchism and earfucking the man, not whining like a bitch about how daddy walked out or even though Im filthy rich i still hate rich ppl. pop punk is just bitch bitch bitch! you want real punk, AFI The ramones ect...

Ravenous
March 26th, 2005, 05:36 PM
ppl who dont deserve a guitar:

good Charlotte
New found glory
sum41(theysold out used to be cool)
blink182
ALL OF THE "POP PUNK PPL" why this? becasue pop punk is not even punk. Punk is about Anarchism and earfucking the man, not whining like a bitch about how daddy walked out or even though Im filthy rich i still hate rich ppl. pop punk is just bitch bitch bitch! you want real punk, AFI The ramones ect...

Totally agree with you :D

Waiting
March 26th, 2005, 07:29 PM
hahah you're fucking fools,
you're bitching and monaing about pop punk...why??
does it matter?
pop-punk is exactly what it says it sis...Punk music that has pop influences
and they funny thin gis all you people who think onl eclassic punk/old punk is the only allowed punk genre then you're more retarded then i thought.
there is so many punk sub cultures its unreal...
there is genres like hardcore, grindcore and softcore that are all offshoots of classic punk
but pop-punk is the only sub-gebre (that springs to mind(apart from punk rock)) that kept partly punk name
these bands are not sellouts for being in the pop-punk genre because they are affecting the audiences that they want to affect...everyone
music isnt kept specific to certain people...and some people arnt allowed to like that music...
you lot are behaving as bad as fcking chavs...
you dont respect music as genres or in a whole,
Good Charlotte have not sold out...once...because they've always aimed for the younger generation, and they have always been in the charts and shall continue to make the same music..because they enjoy it...and thats what matters, that they enjoy it, no tu whiny bitches are complaining because you cant accept a sub culture of punk
Again this is the same with NFG..they have always been making hte same kind of music, they enjoy it, and sure they are making money out of this, this means people enjpoy thier music..when AC/DC made millions no1 critisied them for selling out?
Sum41 havnt sold out, if anything they've become less of a sell out band, as they've faded away, and then released Chuck, it didnt grab the younger kids attention so much and they hav become More underground and are Loosing money..this is not selling out
Blink 182..you all should know my personal feelings on this band, so i shall not go into too much detail as you wil call be bias or w/e, but i still do not believe this band have sold out, because i know the full sotry, ues their music as changed dramatically in thier new realse, and yes it has brought in a wider fan base, but this is because they made thier music alot more darker, and people were more attracted to this. you will say so this is selling out..buit no it isnt, Tom Delonge, has always wanted to make this music, as has Travis Barker, They Formed Box Car Racer in 2001, but they made one album and split up as mark felt left out.. this album was very much the latest blink album, this shows thaty it was not selling out, but pure love fore the music, that blink have always contained, Definatly not selling out.

I Still Cant Believe You people are talking about sell outs, you're making a fool outa yourself every time you say it, because its just proving how little you know about music, how little you know about music genres, and how little you appreciate music

So before you start making rash, uneducated comments, that have no base and no reason for saying them but because you are a little whiny bitch and you have nothing better to do then whine about music that doesnt appeal to you and jerk off,
read up a bit more about music.. and oh, try listening to music, because obviously your not listening to the bands you say you like...(AC/DC fan this means you) and comming out with dumbass comments like this, if you actulary listen to the songs you will see so so many influences to the songs.
But at the moment you are prooving yourselves to be fucking plain retarded.

Music is for lovers, not for haters.

Grow up, Listen to the music you pretend to like but have no actual clue abou tthat you have just prooved to me, and make your opinions worthwhile and a bit harder for me to trash them all over the place and proove you wrong 1thousand times over

Thanks.

-Mute

(by the way you've provided me with some entertainment watching you come up with pitiful replioes to this post)

serial-thrilla
March 26th, 2005, 10:44 PM
well said, although i dont really like the music of any of the bands mentioned above i thought that patch made a few good points.

Ravenous
March 27th, 2005, 08:04 AM
but dosnt it annoy you when you see a seven year old in a sum 41 hoody?

AC/DC HaLO 2
March 27th, 2005, 11:52 AM
ya it dos and wen u ask the mabout punk music they just sorta have that blank stare......then they mumble someting and walk away.....

Waiting
March 27th, 2005, 04:29 PM
but dosnt it annoy you when you see a seven year old in a sum 41 hoody?

of corse it annoys the living shi touta me, but cuz a 7r old likes sum41 doesnt mean they sold out, if a 7 yr old liked the ramones, the clash or the sex pistols would you say they sold out?
no you wouldnt, exactly, because hey didnt. but just cuz someon eyound likes the music doesnt mean the band forced them to like it and 'sold out'

AC/DC HaLO 2
March 27th, 2005, 05:51 PM
i like to poke the poser kids hehehe

AC/DC HaLO 2
March 27th, 2005, 09:00 PM
ya and you talked about pop punk being a sub category of pu, but to be a sub categroy of someting you must have the same fundemental trit and punk is about anarchism. I can tell you one thing good charlotte nor have any pop punk bands i have ever heard of sed anything about anrachy, but all they do is bitch and moan.

-Silence
March 27th, 2005, 09:02 PM
About all artists "bitch and moan", if they were happy then the lyrics usually suck. :?

-Silence
March 27th, 2005, 09:11 PM
Does that matter? I mean, still it affects their life somewhat where they feel they need to write about it.

The other day I heard someone singing about tearing a sweater, I was confused. I thought it was stupid. But oh well, maybe it matters to the singer/band.

-Silence
March 27th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I think so, it was on the radio and it sounded okay until the chorus. Then it was just funny. :?

AC/DC HaLO 2
March 27th, 2005, 10:06 PM
even if they still itch and moan about "real" issues, its still no where close to bein punk as i said b4 punk is about anarchy, and i havent heard any of it in the lyrics

-Silence
March 27th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Why must they get shoved into categories? Can't they just be musicians without being judged?

Lost_and_fallen
April 3rd, 2005, 12:40 PM
I completely agree with you Heather.
I'm not bothered weather I'm listening to Indie, or punkpop, or rock or whatever, I prefer not to label it. What's important to me is that I like the music.
I wouldn't care if a band were sell-outs if I thought the music was still good and I wouldn't care if someone labelled a band I liked as 'pop'. As long as they still create stuff I can enjoy, I don't give a damn what category you place them in or how much money they make, I don't think that's what music's about.

Ravenous
April 3rd, 2005, 02:39 PM
you have a very valid point there and all of you who argued that same point, i am re-thinking the situation....