Ranting Teacher

[soccer]

Today at school, my Spanish teacher went off and blew up on my class yelling at us on the top of his lungs, swearing included. He was angry because a lot of people failed a take home exam. He even singled out students individually. So, this brings me to my point. Do you think teachers should be allowed to do this?

[Mr. Smithers]

Yes. Even "nice" teachers, still get angry or upset if students don't do their homework and stuff like that. It's their job to make sure you pass the class.

[woody92]

Yes. Even "nice" teachers, still get angry or upset if students don't do their homework and stuff like that. It's their job to make sure you pass the class.

Totaly agree!REP+
if I was in a class and my class wouldnt be quiet or they wouldnt or didnt do their home work I would want the teacher to get angry. OK, for me its not nice because I am quiet in class and I do my homework etc.. but the students have to accept responsibility for their action because if students today dont, think of the world we might end up living when we are older! I think that there comes a point in life thatyou have to have responsibilities and I belive that at the age of 5 your parents should start to introducing them slowly like my parents did. At the age of about 8 or 9 I was left in my house alone with my sister (who is one year younger) and we managed to reheat our dinner in the micro, bathe ourselfs etc...
So I think that more responsibilities at a younger age the better (especialy at 14/15/16 years of age!). So when we are older our society will be the same as if not better than the generation before! ~woody92

[Obscene Eyedeas]

Yes they should. imagine life in the future witout a proper education everything is advancing and without a good education you wil be left behind. if u fail an exam sometimes all a teacher can do is scream at you to put some sense back into your head

[Art_dude]

Today at school, my Spanish teacher went off and blew up on my class yelling at us on the top of his lungs, swearing included. He was angry because a lot of people failed a take home exam. He even singled out students individually. So, this brings me to my point. Do you think teachers should be allowed to do this?

Do I think teachers should be allowed to do what your Spanish teacher did? Absolutely not. There is a fine line between taking a serious tone, disciplining your students etc, and verbally abusing them. From what you said, it sounded like he crossed line ever so slightly.

I strongly believe in a machiavellian approach to teaching especially when dealing with obnoxiously defiant teens: to be feared and loved. A teacher should be respected, loved, and feared - not in a "I'm scared of him" way but in a, "I respect him/her as a person and I don't want to do anything to offend him/her and incur his distrust of me, because I respect him/her."

Respect is a two-way street. If your teachers aren't treating you like a human and acting like an adult when a problem arises, they (in my opinion) don't deserve your respect. There are countless ways to approach an issue, and screaming and cursing incessantly isn't an effective one. I understand everyone loses their temper sometimes, but making that a regular practice is sick. I'm not saying to NOT give them respect,(I think everyone should take the high road) but they don't deserve it.

[Giles]

I agree that teachers have every right to get annoyed and angry if students don't do what they are told, maybe the swearing should of been avoided.

[The Batman]

How do you fail a take home exam? I don't blame him for being upset you have all the time in the world to work on it yet people still fail it. He shoudln't have swore or singled out students but I can see him getting upset.

[INFERNO]

Singling out individuals and swearing at them I don't think is appropriate at all, however, he has every right to be angry. Failing a take-home exam... how? I suppose if he's passionate about teaching and trying to get students to learn, and somehow they fail an open-book, at-home exam, he may be frustrated in that students aren't taking it seriously or trying (not saying that's the case for all). Either way, singling out individuals and swearing at them isn't appropriate.

We'd have teachers sometimes get pissed off at us when we goofed around too much because their job is in part to keep us in line. One teacher in particular would slam the classroom door so hard a clock would fall that was near the top of the door frame, kicked desks of students who were asleep pretty hard, etc... . But, at the same time, he was an amazing guy, fun to joke around with, very smart and kind to students.

[woody92]

Respect is a two-way street. If your teachers aren't treating you like a human and acting like an adult when a problem arises, they (in my opinion) don't deserve your respect.

I am sorry but I dissagree here because he's an adult, he's older and has more life experiences than you and you always have to repect elders, even if they are only 3 or 4 years older. In fact I think that you should respect enyone and everyone, No matter their age! (This is just My opinion, like you stated yours. I fully respect your opinion, but that doesnt mean that I have to agree with it)

[Art_dude]

I am sorry but I dissagree here because he's an adult, he's older and has more life experiences than you and you always have to repect elders, even if they are only 3 or 4 years older. In fact I think that you should respect enyone and everyone, No matter their age! (This is just My opinion, like you stated yours. I fully respect your opinion, but that doesnt mean that I have to agree with it)

If you would've taken the time to read my whole post you would see I agree with you:

"I'm not saying to NOT give them respect,(I think everyone should take the high road) but they don't deserve it"

I think people should always be mindful and treat everybody with respect. All I was saying was that, if you want respect you have to give it.

[woody92]

If you would've taken the time to read my whole post you would see I agree with you:

"I'm not saying to NOT give them respect,(I think everyone should take the high road) but they don't deserve it"

I think people should always be mindful and treat everybody with respect. All I was saying was that, if you want respect you have to give it.

I did take time to read your post! But i highlighted the above because I got the impression that you were saying that if you dont give you dont get, well i think thats wrong! I think that 2 wrongs dont make a right, so thats why I think that you should always give respect No matter what the other person has done.

"I am not saying your wrong, I am saying that I think you should respect everyone!"

[Art_dude]

Once again I don't think you understand what I'm saying: I also agree that two wrongs don't make a right: I also believe that you should give respect even if someone else doesn't return the favor - All I'm saying is that the person who didn't give you respect hasn't earned your respect. I think you should still respect them, they just haven't done anything to deserve it. I'm sorry for this misinterpretation.

[soccer8]

actually it is against the law to yall violently and curse at students in a classroom or anywhere else so thier is a big problem there

[woody92]

Once again I don't think you understand what I'm saying: I also agree that two wrongs don't make a right: I also believe that you should give respect even if someone else doesn't return the favor - All I'm saying is that the person who didn't give you respect hasn't earned your respect. I think you should still respect them, they just haven't done anything to deserve it. I'm sorry for this misinterpretation.


Ok cool! I am sorry for misunderstanding you!:)

[Jean Poutine]

He can do whatever he wants.

However, my POV is, the guy did his high school a long time ago. It's seriously none of his concern if you pass or fail. That he's upset enough to yell at you lot is actually a good sign, because at least, he cares.

And to all of you fairies who are against singling out bad students...

Why is it encouraged to single out good students and showcase their work, while you can't take the rap on the good-for-nothing ones?

Where I'm from, bad students were split from the good ones. When I was in grade 8, our French teacher liked to order our seating from best to worst. All the baddies would be where he could monitor them to make sure they worked.

For the whole year, I maintained my alpha dog seating place, the one everyone wants : the far desk in the far corner near the window. I deserved it. And bad students deserve the shit they get.

[The Batman]

He can do whatever he wants.

However, my POV is, the guy did his high school a long time ago. It's seriously none of his concern if you pass or fail. That he's upset enough to yell at you lot is actually a good sign, because at least, he cares. It is his concern if they pass or fail since it reflects his teaching ability

And to all of you fairies who are against singling out bad students...

Why is it encouraged to single out good students and showcase their work, while you can't take the rap on the good-for-nothing ones?
Because calling out someone who is making bad grades is not only embarrassing but just wrong. It's not going to help by showing their report card off to the class the best thing to do is to take that student aside and try to find a way to work with him/her.

Where I'm from, bad students were split from the good ones. When I was in grade 8, our French teacher liked to order our seating from best to worst. All the baddies would be where he could monitor them to make sure they worked.

For the whole year, I maintained my alpha dog seating place, the one everyone wants : the far desk in the far corner near the window. I deserved it. And bad students deserve the shit they get.
There's a difference between singling them out because they act up and singling them out because they aren't doing good on the work and it's just wrong to publicly point out someone's faults and make it a huge deal for the class.

[Jean Poutine]

It is his concern if they pass or fail since it reflects his teaching ability

It proves nothing. I happen to stumble upon a class of failures one year and most fail. I tried my best but they're too busy having sex in the back of the classroom, reading comics and throwing chewing gum around and I must be a disciplinarian rather than a teacher 99% of the time. How is that any of my fault?

Because calling out someone who is making bad grades is not only embarrassing but just wrong. It's not going to help by showing their report card off to the class the best thing to do is to take that student aside and try to find a way to work with him/her.

Reeeeetarded.

Don't wanna be embarassed? Then don't fail. Obviously some care needs to be taken with people with mental difficulties of every sort. If you're normal and you fail, it's your own god damned problem and you deserve to be called on it.

Every teacher I have ever had singled out students. When the maths teacher made that one girl cry because she got 18% at her exam and he railed her on it, trust me that she made every effort concievable to pass next time.

There's a difference between singling them out because they act up and singling them out because they aren't doing good on the work and it's just wrong to publicly point out someone's faults and make it a huge deal for the class.

No. No it's not. Why should failures be protected? Christ, the one time I failed a maths exam, the whole class railed me. I don't blame them for making fun of my one failure. I shaped up.

People that do good need to be pointed out. People that suck also need to be pointed out, if only to let peer pressure do its job or to provide an incentive to get better.

I've always said, if I ever teach literature, I'm stapling Wal-Mart job application to failed exams. That should help the message pass better.

[The Batman]

Their job is to teach them not make them feel like an idiot for failing and singling them out isn't going to help. Good for you that it helped but around here it's not going to do anything but piss off a bunch of students and their parents. It takes a pretty heartless person to make a student cry in front of the class and call it teaching.

[JackOfClubs]

Yes they should be able to do that. Its not his fault you failed, its your (plural) fault for not doing the test properly. If I was the teacher I would have done the same thing. If you didn't pay attention in class and didn't do your homework properly, you deserve to be called out on, it might make something click in your thick skull and maybe you might do it properly the next time.