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Zero Beat
January 27th, 2010, 06:40 PM
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At today's highly-anticipated media event, Apple announced the iPad tablet device, featuring a 9.7-inch, 1024 x 768 display and 16 GB, 32 GB, and 64 GB capacities. Carrying a custom 1 GHz "Apple A4" chip, the iPad weighs in at 1.5 pounds and is .5-inch thin.
The iPad will be priced at $499, $599, and $699 for the varying capacity models without 3G, and $626, $729, and $829 with 3G. Wi-Fi only models are scheduled to ship in 60 days, with 3G-capable model shipping in 90 days.
A video preview is also available.
In terms of standard connectivity, the iPad offers Wi-Fi (802.11n) and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, with 3G models also offering cellular data connectivity. All iPad models have an accelerometer, compass, speakers, a microphone, and a 30-pin dock connector.
The iPad also offers a claimed 10 hours of battery life for viewing video, with 1 month of standby battery life.
Models with 3G will be unlocked and will be able to use GSM micro SIMs. In the U.S., AT&T will offer two data plan options – $14.99 for up to 250 MB per month and $29.99 per month for unlimited data. No contract is required for either option, and free access to AT&T's Wi-Fi hot spots is included. Data packages for iPad users outside of the U.S. will by in place by June.
The iPad will have standard apps for personal information management, including an address book and calendar, along with e-mail, Safari, Google Maps, and Notes. A special version of iTunes is also on board to provide an optimized browsing experience on the device's 9.7-inch screen.
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Accessories will also be available for the iPad, including a dock with a mechanical keyboard that will accommodate the iPad in portrait orientation and a case with a built-in stand for video viewing.
Prices on these accessories were not announced.
The iPad also supports Bluetooth keyboards.
Multiple demos showed unmodified iPhone apps working on the iPad at original resolution and scaled up to take advantage of the iPad's increased screen real estate. According to Scott Forstall during his time on stage, the iPad can run "virtually every" app without modification, with an on-screen button to scale an app's resolution up and down as desired. iPhone users will not need to re-purchase apps to load them onto an iPad.
The event was also rife with demos, showcasing Gameloft's N.O.V.A., an art app called Brushes, Electronic Art's Need for Speed Shift, and video within a Major League Baseball app.
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Kaius
January 27th, 2010, 06:46 PM
Couldnt help but post this video (http://www.break.com/index/ipad14.html) i found
Im not sure what to make of the iPad to be honest, it looks pretty cool though.
Zero Beat
January 27th, 2010, 06:51 PM
I like how the apps will run even if they were made for the iphone. But i dont like the lock of the lock screen and the home screen. But other then that, yay for apple. I wonder when a jail-break will come out. :P
ben.
January 27th, 2010, 07:08 PM
I think it looks pretty cool. i kinda looks like a big ipod touch lol. does anyone know prices for Australia???
The Batman
January 27th, 2010, 07:20 PM
It's nothing more than an over sized iPhone with a few more features I was expecting something new not over sized so i'm disappointed.
SecretBrotherNeal
January 27th, 2010, 07:59 PM
its got the same specs a the nexus one but no phone.
Giles
January 27th, 2010, 08:39 PM
I want to stamp on my laptop every time I see that picture.
I despise everything Apple makes, most of it fails anyways.
JackOfClubs
January 27th, 2010, 08:41 PM
I think it looks pretty good. $500 is less than expected. 720p HD is nice. I'd definitely buy that instead of a netbook.
2D
January 27th, 2010, 08:44 PM
I want to stamp on my laptop every time I see that picture.
I despise everything Apple makes, most of it fails anyways.
It's not like they've revolutionized/taken over any market recently. That's ridiculous.
Rutherford The Brave
January 27th, 2010, 08:47 PM
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9374/ipadu.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/ipadu.jpg/)
thats all.
Zero Beat
January 27th, 2010, 09:29 PM
its got the same specs a the nexus one but no phone.
Ummm how the hell do you get that? 9.7 screen (apple), 3.7 (Nexus).
iPad comes in 3 sizes, nexus 1. I could go on, but i wont. The nexus and the iPad are to different things, they have nothing alike spec wise.
I think it looks pretty cool. i kinda looks like a big ipod touch lol. does anyone know prices for Australia???
Apple havnt said what they will price the aussie ones. Or any other places other then using US dollar.
SecretBrotherNeal
January 28th, 2010, 02:56 AM
I think it looks pretty good. $500 is less than expected. 720p HD is nice. I'd definitely buy that instead of a netbook.
Have fun with no flash no keyboard less ram and a crappy cpu and lots o DRM
http://i.imgur.com/5vREa.png
2D
January 28th, 2010, 03:01 AM
I will have fun with it. Have fun with Windows OS.
Zero Beat
January 28th, 2010, 03:02 AM
Its less of a tablet more of a over sized iPod/ebook reader. it lacks the 'computer' side of a tablet. Sure it looks nice but it would make a shitty 'computer'/'netbook'
I cant wait to see when the jail-breaking starts. might make it a good iPad.
LunacyFringe
January 28th, 2010, 05:30 AM
Like everything else by apple, it lacks basic features and comes with a ridiculous price tag.
Whisper
January 28th, 2010, 06:25 AM
Like everything else by apple, it lacks basic features and comes with a ridiculous price tag.
the base price is only 500
thats not expensive considering what you get
Giles
January 28th, 2010, 11:05 AM
Have fun with no flash no keyboard less ram and a crappy cpu and lots o DRM
http://i.imgur.com/5vREa.png
Fantastic :D
+rep
2D
January 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Why do I even bother.
Aηdy
January 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM
That looks like a right load of crap to me.
The Batman
January 28th, 2010, 12:57 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwywb4ujD31qa43q2o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1264786611&Signature=53Z%2Fs3uwkYb2PSs%2FTSLvygh3NHc%3D
The only thing about that pic that's wrong is that it does have a headphone jack.
Aηdy
January 28th, 2010, 01:03 PM
Win!
DayBreakArt
January 28th, 2010, 02:54 PM
I just cant get over the name... iPad. Maybe its just me but its sounding like Apple made a feminine product. d: Anyways, im not sure about it. I wouldnt buy one until i tried someone else's. lol
Antares
January 28th, 2010, 03:55 PM
I think it was a good move.
It has much more capabilities than the iPhone.
I think it will be a huge hit with business families who need stuff to watch on planes, long trips, etc.
I think it will definitely not be a flop.
I think it looks great also.
Only thing I can't get over is the name. iPad...stupid.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 04:00 PM
I spent the last 10 minutes on thesuaras.reference.com looking for a batter name. And I came up with shit for nothing. iPad is seriously the best one out there.
The only other contender I think is the iMag. Like magazine. But eh. They did their best.
EDIT: How about iSlab? Or iPlate?
Antares
January 28th, 2010, 04:02 PM
iSlate? lol
iTab...i like that one more than pad honestly
2D
January 28th, 2010, 04:05 PM
iSlate? lol
iTab...i like that one more than pad honestly
iSlate is no go. HP has a tablet coming out that's called the Slate.
I would have chosen iPlate or iTab to be frank.
Aηdy
January 28th, 2010, 05:32 PM
fuA_OUL91og
I lol'd
2D
January 28th, 2010, 05:45 PM
That is fantastic.
Cloud
January 28th, 2010, 06:00 PM
dGG1gQiVhCk
if you want something you poke and have it do stuff
go with the ipod
atleast then it can fit in yuor pocket and you wont look like a complete and utter twat using it on the train or whatever
Giles
January 28th, 2010, 06:21 PM
I wouldnt buy one until i tried someone else's. lol
Ha... that's great.
Aηdy
January 28th, 2010, 06:47 PM
It really is shit. If you want something for web browsing on the move, buy a cheap netbook. It will do the job, easy to use as it has a proper keyboard, it doesn't look stupid and it doesn't cost a bomb!
Rainstorm
January 28th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Don't really think it's worth it. Like Andy said, get a netbook.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 06:50 PM
It really is shit. If you want something for web browsing on the move, buy a cheap netbook. It will do the job, easy to use as it has a proper keyboard, it doesn't look stupid and it doesn't cost a bomb!
What part of a netbook is easy to use? Having a keyboard does not mean easier. It means more parts to break. I'm not sure what you mean by it looks stupid. It just looks gaudy. I would say $500 is not a lot at all.
Once jailbroken (which will happen) it will do everything I want. I'll be able to tether it to my iPhone and use it anywhere, I will be able to multitask, it will be almost all I need. That and a external hard drive and I'm set.
OneManArmy
January 28th, 2010, 06:53 PM
Just an over sized iphone. And the name sounds like some sort of tampon product. Another piece of useless technology i can't afford.
Edit:
fuA_OUL91og
I lol'd
EXACTLY my thoughts on it.
Aηdy
January 28th, 2010, 07:11 PM
What part of a netbook is easy to use? Having a keyboard does not mean easier. It means more parts to break. I'm not sure what you mean by it looks stupid. It just looks gaudy. I would say $500 is not a lot at all.
Once jailbroken (which will happen) it will do everything I want. I'll be able to tether it to my iPhone and use it anywhere, I will be able to multitask, it will be almost all I need. That and a external hard drive and I'm set.
Well I've never had a laptop keyboard break. They're cheap/easy to fix anyways. You can type without looking on a keyboard also, impossible to do as well on a touch screen.
Also, on a train, you have your tablet out on the table, you have to lean forward to look at it. A netbook you can place on the table, sit back, see the screen and type without having to look at the keyboard.
Multitask? It's not even very powerful. Exhernat hard drive is unlikely, it has no USB, so if there is ever one it will be an apple one via their own connector which will cost a bomb.
Tablets have been tried in the past and have never taken off.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 07:31 PM
Well I've never had a laptop keyboard break. They're cheap/easy to fix anyways. You can type without looking on a keyboard also, impossible to do as well on a touch screen.
Heh, not when my brothers broke. He just bought a new comp because it was so damn expensive.
Also, on a train, you have your tablet out on the table, you have to lean forward to look at it. A netbook you can place on the table, sit back, see the screen and type without having to look at the keyboard.
Ahhh shucks, you mean I'm going to have to move a bit? Fuck. I would just hold it in my hand or set in in my lap to use. It's light as hell so it's not bothersome. And we have no trains here so meh.
Multitask? It's not even very powerful. Exhernat hard drive is unlikely, it has no USB, so if there is ever one it will be an apple one via their own connector which will cost a bomb.
I'll bet you it will be powerful enough to multitask 2 things. Which is all I would need at one time. Browser+MSN. Browser+Pages. And there is a connector and guaranteed it will cost $30. So you got me there.
Tablets have been tried in the past and have never taken off.
Which is why Apple is doing it, they will make it work. No matter how much people hate it, it will do everything it's intended to do better than anything.
Enough of this device hating. Lets go have a beer.
Lifeguard18
January 28th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Have fun with no flash no keyboard less ram and a crappy cpu and lots o DRM
http://i.imgur.com/5vREa.png
Are you serious. It's called an on screen keyboard. And if you got to apples website you can attach a keyboard. Why do you need flash for games when you have an app store with over 140,00 things. Video yeah I can see but it won't be long until there's a jailbreak so yeah. And it's not a computer so it's gonna have less stuff. You get iWork like on a mac but it's a cracked down version with lots of modifications. So far this beats my vista desktop. Which I'm getting a mac mini soon :) I can't stand people complaining on things THEY DIDNT EVEN TRY OUT YET!! chill down people.
Ps have fun on your crappy windows pc
Well I've never had a laptop keyboard break. They're cheap/easy to fix anyways. You can type without looking on a keyboard also, impossible to do as well on a touch screen.
Also, on a train, you have your tablet out on the table, you have to lean forward to look at it. A netbook you can place on the table, sit back, see the screen and type without having to look at the keyboard.
Multitask? It's not even very powerful. Exhernat hard drive is unlikely, it has no USB, so if there is ever one it will be an apple one via their own connector which will cost a bomb.
Tablets have been tried in the past and have never taken off.
if you go on apples website they have a stand for that. You dint have to lean. They made a whole bunch of accesories for ipad. If you jailbreak you get multitasking. And if you watched the keynote Steve jobs said he'll be back in June with a lots of updates on ipad. People don't argue on something you didn't even try out yet. How can you say you hate it when you didn't try it. Like when you were a kid you hated spinache and your parents said you never tried it yet how can you hate it? Refer to that. It's apples second tablet they made. If you look at apples history in the 90s they made a tablet that was very successful. So think first
The Batman
January 28th, 2010, 08:36 PM
I went on the website and read the specs. It looks crap you could get a better netbook for half the price and it could do a hell of a lot more. Why wait for a jailbreak when you can just get a netbook that can do all of it. Seriously the only way you can fuck up a pc is if you do it yourself.
Rainstorm
January 28th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Well, now that I've read both fanboys reviews of this...
Like most have said, it's just an upgraded iTouch and iPhone, just larger. There's no real innovation to it. Like Kyle and many others said, a netbook can do plenty more for half a price.
Cloud
January 28th, 2010, 08:45 PM
Okay so its just another gizmo to be had
but its not a computer so your gonna need one of those
its not pocketsized so its not an ipod
so what is it
a block of gizmos?
thats job has already been done by 2 other things that do other stuff aswell
Really
just get a fucking ipod touch or an iphone save the stupid extra money and get a computer
Sugaree
January 28th, 2010, 08:58 PM
Ps have fun on your crappy windows pc
Because having a desktop computer that happens to be a Mac is just sooooooo much better :rolleyes:.
Really, all this is is another piece of technology. People don't have to go, "ZOMG I NED EET!". Really, looking at the specs, it would be a waste of time. Besides, I could get a netbook that would cost half the price, have the same length of battery life, have a good amount of RAM, and be able to browse the net. All it is is an over sized iPhone, nothing new. Besides, it's just an electronics company, just like Microsoft. It's not like you can compare the two. They have their pros and cons.
Lifeguard18
January 28th, 2010, 08:59 PM
I went on the website and read the specs. It looks crap you could get a better netbook for half the price and it could do a hell of a lot more. Why wait for a jailbreak when you can just get a netbook that can do all of it. Seriously the only way you can fuck up a pc is if you do it yourself.
It's not a computer which people are refering to. Ipad is not a netbook and a netbook isn't an ipad. Just go with what you want. This is for the tablet war which apple has now entered to compete with the others. Not a netbook or a laptop war or the desktop war. And yes people is is a gigantic iPhone or iPod becuase it runs iPhone os. Not mac os. And if you watch the keynote you'll be amazed tbh in my opinion. I was. I thought it was just going to be like the touch but I was wrong IMO. So watch they keynote. I highly suggest that. This is the start of the future. What apples iPad and microsoft tablet (I forgot the name) basically is the start of the future. Both companies just started the future IMO again.
Cloud
January 28th, 2010, 09:04 PM
Tbh if thats the future they better seriously improve it or im sticking in the past
Lifeguard18
January 28th, 2010, 09:05 PM
Because having a desktop computer that happens to be a Mac is just sooooooo much better :rolleyes:.
Really, all this is is another piece of technology. People don't have to go, "ZOMG I NED EET!". Really, looking at the specs, it would be a waste of time. Besides, I could get a netbook that would cost half the price, have the same length of battery life, have a good amount of RAM, and be able to browse the net. All it is is an over sized iPhone, nothing new. Besides, it's just an electronics company, just like Microsoft. It's not like you can compare the two. They have their pros and cons.
No it doesn't mean it's better it's called an opinion. Have you heard of that. Lol. Jk. I will never buy a pc again. I had too much trouble with mine since the day I first booted it. And my mom and dad are starting to get tired of the office comp with xp.
And the 3g is through AT&T so apple and AT&T had to make an agreement.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 09:07 PM
To be frank I do need it. Which is annoying. I will take it when I go to class. Say bye bye to all my heavy as fuck books, say bye to pencil and paper. It will be what I carry to my college classes. Which is fantastic. Yes I will still need a computer but who gives a fuck.l
Lifeguard18
January 28th, 2010, 09:07 PM
Tbh if thats the future they better seriously improve it or im sticking in the past
Haha. Then you'll have a lot of outdated stuff lmao. Jk :) I havnt seen the one Microsoft made yet because everyones hype is around the ipad. I mean I've seen it but never actually watches the demos cause I can't find it.
Sugaree
January 28th, 2010, 09:08 PM
This is for the tablet war which apple has now entered to compete with the others....This is the start of the future...
Apple is actually a few years LATE in the tablet world. Saying that it's the start of the future is pretty wrong since Microsoft did it a few years ago making a tablet with XP on it. So in reality, this is still the PAST. It's just a tablet PC with a computer OS on it, nothing more nothing less. Why does everyone seem to think that if MS does something then it's JUST what it is and when Apple comes out with the same shit, it's so fucking "innovative"?
I mean I've seen it but never actually watches the demos cause I can't find it.
Because Microsoft finds no need to make everything they do a huge deal. Apple thinks it's so special with it's "innovative" things. People say that MS is a copy off Apple, which is major bullshit. The only hype about Apple is because it makes everything look flashy and that just makes people want it without really knowing what they're getting. Granted, Microsoft did make a big deal about Windows 7, but it's rare to see Microsoft hold these huge press conferences just to put out some over sized hunk of tech.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 09:10 PM
Apple is actually a few years LATE in the tablet world. Saying that it's the start of the future is pretty wrong since Microsoft did it a few years ago making a tablet with XP on it. So in reality, this is still the PAST. It's just a tablet PC with a computer OS on it, nothing more nothing less. Why does everyone seem to think that if MS does something then it's JUST what it is and when Apple comes out with the same shit, it's so fucking "innovative"?
Because everything MS makes is shit.
Sugaree
January 28th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Because everything MS makes is shit.
Not everything. If I recall, Windows 95/98 was a pretty fucking stable OS, just the same as XP. The only reason people look down on Microsoft is because of the huge mistake with Vista.
Lifeguard18
January 28th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Apple is actually a few years LATE in the tablet world. Saying that it's the start of the future is pretty wrong since Microsoft did it a few years ago making a tablet with XP on it. So in reality, this is still the PAST. It's just a tablet PC with a computer OS on it, nothing more nothing less. Why does everyone seem to think that if MS does something then it's JUST what it is and when Apple comes out with the same shit, it's so fucking "innovative"?
I know there late. I said apple has NOW entered the tablet war. I won't be surprised in a few years when they make a video camera or a digital camera. Lmao. Then they'll be EXTREMELY late. Haha.
The Batman
January 28th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Because everything MS makes is shit.
Not really the only problems I've had with my computer are things that I caused myself. Microsoft doesn't make shitty products people just do shitty things to to them.
Cloud
January 28th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Haha. Then you'll have a lot of outdated stuff lmao. Jk :) I havnt seen the one Microsoft made yet because everyones hype is around the ipad. I mean I've seen it but never actually watches the demos cause I can't find it.
The Ipod touch and laptop i have suit my needs perfectly i dont really need anymore gizmos that are jst gonig to bust into my bank account iwth no real benefit
Sugaree
January 28th, 2010, 09:14 PM
I know there late. I said apple has NOW entered the tablet war. I won't be surprised in a few years when they make a video camera or a digital camera. Lmao. Then they'll be EXTREMELY late. Haha.
That may be true, but everyone is thinking that Apple is now the leader in tablets. At least that's how it's being portrayed by the media and those who are planning on buying iPad.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 09:16 PM
Not everything. If I recall, Windows 95/98 was a pretty fucking stable OS, just the same as XP. The only reason people look down on Microsoft is because of the huge mistake with Vista.
You're only as good as your last OS. Which is Win7. Which is marginally better than Vista but still pretty shit. They're just trying to copy Apple with very unsuccessful results. When MS just makes something that works I'll be impressed.
Cloud
January 28th, 2010, 09:16 PM
Tbh im surprised Apple hasnt unveiled a major games console to go up against microsofts 360 and Sonys PS3
2D
January 28th, 2010, 09:18 PM
Tbh im surprised Apple hasnt unveiled a major games console to go up against microsofts 360 and Sonys PS3
Why would they do that? It's pointless with the domination in that market already.
Sugaree
January 28th, 2010, 09:19 PM
You're only as good as your last OS. Which is Win7. Which is marginally better than Vista but still pretty shit. They're just trying to copy Apple with very unsuccessful results. When MS just makes something that works I'll be impressed.
In the early years, it was Apple copying off Microsoft. I think it was once XP came out that Apple became increasingly popular and Microsoft had nothing better to think of. But that's just been recent years.
Why would they do that? It's pointless with the domination in that market already.
As pointless as it would be, it would just mean more money in the market for Apple. Not to mention that it would be another trend setter. Remember when the Wii came out and everyone had to have one?
Lifeguard18
January 28th, 2010, 09:20 PM
That may be true, but everyone is thinking that Apple is now the leader in tablets. At least that's how it's being portrayed by the media and those who are planning on buying iPad.
Yeah there not the leader. It hasn't been released yet and people say it's already dominating and poor at the same time. It has to improve. I'm not planning on getting yet too soon. I may not. Idk. I have to try it first.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 09:22 PM
In the early years, it was Apple copying off Microsoft. I think it was once XP came out that Apple became increasingly popular and Microsoft had nothing better to think of. But that's just been recent years.
Who came out with the mouse? That right bitches, Apple.
As pointless as it would be, it would just mean more money in the market for Apple. Not to mention that it would be another trend setter. Remember when the Wii came out and everyone had to have one?
Good point, the novelty of it would be enough to sell millions of the damned things.
Cloud
January 28th, 2010, 09:26 PM
Interactive gaming like the Wiis starting a big trend now
microsofts producing the Netal or whatever its called
Its money to be had and where theres money on offer the big companys are gonna jump for it
So whats to stop Apple having a go at doing thier own version of the Wii, or completely dominating the Online gaming scene with a super console that blows xbox and ps3 out the water?
Sugaree
January 28th, 2010, 09:31 PM
Interactive gaming like the Wiis starting a big trend now
microsofts producing the Netal or whatever its called
Its money to be had and where theres money on offer the big companys are gonna jump for it
So whats to stop Apple having a go at doing thier own version of the Wii, or completely dominating the Online gaming scene with a super console that blows xbox and ps3 out the water?
It's possible, but I'd like to think that Apple will keep attention on the iPad and then move on once this is settled with.
2D
January 28th, 2010, 09:32 PM
Xbox has the online scene pretty much wrapped up. I doubt that Apple will enter any type of gaming beyond the games on the app store. Lulz. It would be cool if they did a kickass virtual style gaming machine. Where you move and the character moves. Like the Netal project MS is doing.
Cloud
January 28th, 2010, 09:35 PM
Xbox did have it locked down
Then PS3 popped up and the die hard sony fans leapt
same could happen with Apple fans
SecretBrotherNeal
January 29th, 2010, 12:15 AM
Have fun with no flash no keyboard less ram and a crappy cpu and lots o DRM
http://i.imgur.com/5vREa.png
http://i.imgur.com/QDPrT.png
Antares
January 29th, 2010, 12:25 AM
Apple really has STARTED the tablet war.
That started the mp3/music war.
They started the touch phone war.
And they have won all of them.
I think apple made a boring move but a good one.
They need to come out with another cool toy very soon though.
2D
January 29th, 2010, 12:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/QDPrT.png
That loses all credibility since they spelled aren't wrong.
That shows what kind of people buy netbooks. Ignorant morons.
Not to mention just because something has something doesn't mean it's good at that thing. I have a motorcycle but am I Velentino Rossi? No.
Ryhanna
January 29th, 2010, 12:52 AM
They should have worked on it a bit more...
I was expecting it to be more of a cross between the iphone and macbook,
but instead it looks like an enlarged itouch, and from what I've heard, it isn't much different, either.
Apple is by far the best compter company in the world, but this is a teency bit of a fail.
You can't always be perfect, eh? They'll rebound in a year or two with either an enhanced version of the ipad or something COMPLETLEY different, unique and awesome. Just like all companies do. I bet they're discussing their next move right now.
Sugaree
January 29th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Enough of our poppy cock, let's have Hitler tell us!
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