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Melchi0r
May 29th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Well, yeah, minors buying cigarettes is already totally illegal. So is buying cigarettes for minors. But why are minors allowed to smoke, but just not allowed to buy cigarettes? It sounds like a very poor choice to keep minors off of cigarettes. Therefore, I have pondered this question:

What if minors smoking was illegal? I mean, it would also prevent from getting people into smoking, because usually addiction starts before the age of 18.

Jazbo
May 29th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Smoking should be illegal. It's absolutely pointless. All it is is invasive and corrosive. It harms the smoker and those around him/her. Smoking is a stupid practice, it's merely destructive to everything. There is nothing positive for it.

So yes, it should be illegal for minors to smoke, it should be illegal period.

MoveAlong
May 29th, 2006, 08:26 PM
I agree with Jazbo. But smoking's so big now and people have tried to stop it and the tabacco company will just pay them off...But minors? NO! That isn't cool. You guys might go Huzzahfor smoking but that's because you're used to it. Smoking might feel good or whatever but it's just not good for you. How could you hurt yourself like that? :( Still, I think that you should be at least 18 to smoke, buy, and exchange ciggerettes.

0=
May 30th, 2006, 02:26 AM
Because this is supposed to be a "free" country, you're allowed to smoke fags and wreck your lungs but not have some pot brownies 0: children smoking? Nobody should, but so much money is made off of selling fags at this point that it'll take a miracle to make them illegal. But then again, since it's a "free" country, you should be allowed to pump what you want into your system. I say ban public smoking and make it illegal for children to smoke. Also, lower the drinking age or ban alcohol altogether, as soon as people turn 21 they go crazy drinking beause it's a forbidden pleasure, I've grown up being allowed to taste alcohol in small quantities and it's nothign special to me 0: In fact, I'm off to make a drinking age thread.

Ravenous
May 30th, 2006, 05:58 AM
People should be able to do what they want. I agree with there being an age limit for buying cigarettes and probably for smoking them. But I think it is too high. I believe once a person is about 14, they are old enough to decide for themselves. People should be given free choice whether they want to smoke or not.

redcar
May 30th, 2006, 08:01 AM
i agree, even though i dont like smoking, i think that people have the right to choose. like i think people are able to make informed decisions when it comes to smoking when they are in their early teens. i do agree with not being able to buy them though, i know it sounds like a contradiction, but it is unhealthy at the end of they day, and even though early teens can make informed decisions about smoking i think because their bodies and all havent fully developed they should be hard to get. but even though u have to be 18 to get them here, i find it doesnt stop people, they get them one way or another!

(ok i am just reading that back and it doesnt look like it makes much sense but in my head it does!:P)

Melchi0r
May 30th, 2006, 03:41 PM
Popo's comment was sadly funny. While smoking is legal and pot isn't, smoking is way more unhealthy. So why is pot illegal but tobacco not?

If only the smokers of America knew how the big tobacco companies were screwing them over.

MoveAlong
May 30th, 2006, 03:45 PM
Sometimes they don't even care :|

Jazbo
May 30th, 2006, 04:34 PM
I don't believe in this 'free choice' crap when my health is at risk. With booze, at least you're only wrecking your own liver, but personally? I don't want someone elses dumb decision to inhale fire and ruin their lungs also effect mine. I like my lungs.

If anything, there should be designated smoking areas, that's right, quarantine smokers. Keep MY lungs safe, keep everyone else who doesn't smoke lungs safe. I could care less if you want to willingly introduce a cancerous substance or risk your own life! But when it's also risking MINE? Then that is a public health hazard, NOT a personal issue.

This is beyond freedom of choice, because you aren't only choosing the fate for yourself, but for those around you.

Ravenous
May 30th, 2006, 05:01 PM
Sorry I forgot to state, I believe smoking should only be legal on your own property, or in designated smoking areas. Don't wanna harm the non-smoking majority.

MoveAlong
May 30th, 2006, 05:11 PM
I don't believe in this 'free choice' crap when my health is at risk. With booze, at least you're only wrecking your own liver, but personally? I don't want someone elses dumb decision to inhale fire and ruin their lungs also effect mine. I like my lungs.

If anything, there should be designated smoking areas, that's right, quarantine smokers. Keep MY lungs safe, keep everyone else who doesn't smoke lungs safe. I could care less if you want to willingly introduce a cancerous substance or risk your own life! But when it's also risking MINE? Then that is a public health hazard, NOT a personal issue.

This is beyond freedom of choice, because you aren't only choosing the fate for yourself, but for those around you.
:thumbsup: Nice. I wanted to say something like that.

Melchi0r
May 30th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Sorry I forgot to state, I believe smoking should only be legal on your own property, or in designated smoking areas. Don't wanna harm the non-smoking majority.

I think the authorities should do a big clean up on places you're allowed to smoke in. I am in PRIDE, a group that writes/makes up skits and dances and perform them for our peers and younger kids to keep them from using drugs and doing other harmful things to themselves, and smoking is one of our top priorities because it's a relatively easy drug to come by. Smoking should be illegal in any indoor public facility like a restaraunt, museum, mall, etc. Yet smoking is already disallowed in many restaurants and malls, museums too, which is good, but people smoking right outside are still bad. You still inhale their smoke when you pass them to get inside. That's definately not fair. While they chose to blacken their lungs and give themselves imminent doom of lung cancer or heart attacks, they should not force everyone else who chooses to respect their lungs and hearts to inhale that smoke. It's pretty much smoking, except no addiction. And I don't wanna "smoke" other people's cigarettes, know what I mean?

Whisper
May 30th, 2006, 07:48 PM
Smoking anywhere a minor has access to Alberta wide is illigal
that includes outside in well trafficed areas like infront of a mall at the entrance
Smoking in Edmonton (albertas capital) is banned period you can do it in ur home nowhere else all the bars etc smoke free
allot of provinces in canada are starting to do that now

Φρανκομβριτ
May 30th, 2006, 08:19 PM
I had this idea once when walking back from getting some smokes. Have something like an addict card. YOu have to have your parents/ guardians sign it, and if they say it's ok, then you smoke. I think that would work perfectly, although I know my parents wouldn't sign it.

Whisper
May 30th, 2006, 08:27 PM
any parent that would sign it
isnt fit to be a parent

Φρανκομβριτ
May 30th, 2006, 09:12 PM
yeah thats kinda problem

Whisper
May 31st, 2006, 10:13 AM
Smokers in Quebec and Ontario will be spending more time outside as laws that ban smoking in all enclosed public places kicked in at midnight Tuesday.

The Quebec government has vowed to crack down immediately, with inspectors fanning out to check bars, restaurants, bingo halls, shopping centres, and other facilities — even tents and churches.
Any business owner who allows illegal smoking will be fined $400 for a first violation of the new law.

Ontario, on the other hand, plans to phase in its legislation gradually. Although its law is also tough — banning cigarettes even in enclosed smoking rooms or partially roofed patios — the province plans to initially hand out warnings instead of fines to violators.

As well, people in many Ontario municipalities — including Ottawa and Toronto — have long faced bans on smoking in many public spaces.

kolte
May 31st, 2006, 10:13 AM
i've said it before.
just because its illegal doesnt mean peopel won't do it.
i smoke, I will allways smoke, I will die with a cig hanging out of my mouth no doubt.
I'm 16 years old and quite capalble of making the decision myself.

saucysister
May 31st, 2006, 10:34 AM
They shouldnt focus on the minor buying/getting access to cigarettes but focus on who's giving it to them.